I don't get it.Originally Posted by shorty
I don't get it.
Your grammar and posting is miles above most people on this site (probably including myself).
It's been numbers > skill since T2 became standard. The real test is if you can keep the numbers up. Small groups like SE and C0ven have a really strong core that will keep showing up for the same sov warfare boredom or alarm clocks all week while Sys-k is a blob of people somehow worse than the old GBC.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Ok, if you seriously don't get it, that's what I got from it. Liam calls his troops lemmings because they tend to do stupid stuff. So that name kinda stuck to them as internal joke. So apparently in Liam's world he set himself several goals, first is to destroy Goons, which was achieved, second CVA in process, and third to destroy Stain Wagon. So a horde of lemmings will descend upon you and you will all die. The end.
Hate to say it but Dekanor made a good interpretation, I was about to post more or less the same.
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@ Butter Dog on Page 1
Since when are you oh-so-knowing about AAA? I know it's a forum, but it'd be nice if you don't make such "statements".
Also, I'm itching for some SYS-K ganks =/
Oh good, AAA thinks butter is as annoying as the rest of EVE. Just making sure.
Most of the time I enjoy watching people getting extremely frustrated with him. He is a pretty good troll and relentless like Reikoku.
Meh, very little in this game will get me "extremely frustrated". BD constantly sticks his nose in every corner of EVE's business, however, and I think its good people call him on it. He is one of the lesser liked eCelebs around.
I can't really comment on the souths workings, but will be pretty fun watching what happens.
Just to pick up on something here and ask a question.
I may have missread, but where in Covens post does it say they will be starting a sov war? Does a reset by Coven/SE necessarily instigate a challenge to sovereignty, or does it? Can Pripyat shed some light on this?
From the other side I can easily imagine SYS-K making it into one, since they would be (in my opinion) less likely to enjoy no holds barred pew-pew on their doorstep and the general disruption to isk making that ensues. History shows that larger alliances with a smaller PvP core tradition don't hold up well under constant harassment and eventually call in friends (if available) to remove the threat from their door.
Brilliant analysis there mate - well done :S
Sys-K is napped with Brick Squad and they synchronizing their moves. Its funny because Bricks normally camps HED and roam in AAA/ROL/Atlas space. Curious when Liam will backstab one of big guys like IT. Molle probably thinks that Sys-K will be loyal to him, but Liam is ready to nap with everyone who help him take more space and ze moons. His plans goes far beyond that few systems in Peroid Basis but it must stay that way for now, at least until IT will be busy and Goons finish their reorganization.
WTB proof that they are napped.
They had positive standings with each other few times lately, also they agreed to fight together against Stain Empire, their pets and C0ven when it goes to sov warfare, but we saw their coop few times already.
@also (just few of many):
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142074
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142053
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142050
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142052
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142055
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142058
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142060
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142053
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142059
"Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll" are Stain Empire rentiers, Sys-K together with Brick Squad was attacking them from some time, before SE/C0ven ultimatum to Sys-K. Thats why i dont get why AAA or Atlas still have positive standings with Sys-K (Liam is apparantly hidding his connections with Bricks, but its not hard to find out). If he already do that kind of things, curious who he will nap when things will be serious to one of big guys on south, maybe even the Goons. Not bad idea cause goons really need that >3k of euro meat shield.
Goons already napped him 2 years ago, he begged me for standings when I was in Goonswarm and I simply passed his request on to Vile Rat; he even came in Delve to fight BoB of which he was a pretty big hater. Then he aligned with SE/C0ven/Atlas and started spergin about honor, naps and good fights.
I am not kidding.
The way I see it, Liam miscalculated something. He started as the junior, shit partner of the Stain group, became bloated and started huffing and puffing. Unlike Atlas which has some old corps which are actually good, the numbers of Liam will crumble like a cardhouse if serious pressure is applied. Sys-K isn't a real alliance, more a collection of failed corps which finally can rat in peace.
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They didn't, my comment was an example of how they have a dedicated "core" of the alliance (a rather large one considering their size) while Sys-k just has a blob of misfits.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
SYS-K is very similar to IRC in that regard. Quite a few of their corps spam the recruitment channel accepting anything with a pulse.
FORMERLY "LunarDuck"
It's called 'speculation', not a statement of fact.
Maybe you haven't noticed but AAA and Sys-K have a pretty good functional working relationship. Sys-K helped AAA out in 49-, and recently in Providence. In terms of 'bigger picture' its seems reasonable to suggest that given a forced choice between Sys-K (active and contributing allies) or SE/Coven (blues on the overview), well, it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination to guess what will probably happen.
Perhaps it won't come to that - I hope it doens't because I do like the fact that SE/Coven have gone through with the reset, it is quite fun to watch. If it does end up escalting though, I'd be willing to bet ISK on what side of the fence AAA would be more likely to fall.
Now you can carry on getting butthurt and confusing my speculation for some kind of ~official statement~ (which you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to do), or we can all carry on posting our guesswork and musings in time-honoured e-spaceship forum tradition.
Maybe it's time to dig up some old Liam quotes calling SE "fucking russians", C0ven "polish window cleaners", AAA "Goon pets". It really doesn't surprise me that a faggot like you likes Liam.
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1: The reset seems to have be on bad terms (because of how SYS-K responded to the IT invasion of Paragon Soul) as opposed to a 'weee lets have fun and shoot each other a bit' soft reset, so escalation is likely.
2: Esoteria is full of valuable r64s and stations to pack with renters. Its not the sort of region where you'd typically restrict yourself to roaming wulfpax if you have an opportunity to actually take the thing over.
Just wanted to answer some topics pointed in this thread:
1,BRICK napped SYS-K:
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=836
2,SYS-K backstabbed $somebody :
We are THE CEAREBEARS and blob of misfits remember ? How can we backstab anyone ?
3,SYS-K sucks at PVP :
Yes and I sincere hope that You will learn to live with it.
Or, I could bet against you, pull a few strings and take all your ISK.
I doubt sys-k (or anyone living in PB) would betray IT for the simple reason that sucking on IT's PB teat is one of the better situations to be in the game, as long as you keep whoever lives in delve happy your space is guaranteed 100% safe from invasion. This obviously has the drawback that whoever owns Delve has full control over what goes on in PB, so the only way I can imagine them resetting IT would be in a situation similar to the MC one, where all odds point at whoever lives in Delve is going to be removed and if they commit to that they better guarantee it happens because if it fails I can't imagine sys-k managing to survive longer than the MC did (and the MC lasted exactly 0 days before folding once BoB actually shot at their first cynojammer after ending the Delve war, in H74).
Damnit Bobby is a faggot and reset C0ven
At this point it seems that SE/C0ven are gonna get thrown under the SC bus. AAA will never side against IT or Atlas.
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meh, I wasn't hoping on him doing anything else, really
'there's no reason for you guys to be blue any more, we don't care about esoteria' reset, or 'we're coming to fuck you up bitches' reset?
guys guys the sc is totally nothing like the NC!
Which I guess is true because the NC doesn't have Liam, Butter Dog or BDCI hence it can't be as gay.
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against what authority?
Errr, it really isn't, because "The SC" doesnt have a shared standing List like the NC, for starters. I wasn't even aware C0ven was still blue to Atlas to be honest.
But as i already said i'm all excited and positive about the prospect of SE/C0ven being freed of the shackles of Sov and politics and i don't want the South fracture because of Space we don't even need.
I hope you realize that it's a mere technicality, the SC doesn't have a shared standings list but as you see if you go away from the pack the result is just the same. The story of "not having a shared standings list" is just a back-patting self consolatory line to stray away from the fact that the SC is several times bigger than the NC (IT for example is larger than the 2 largest NC alliances together).
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i refuse to believe in the SC
Atlas just reset SE/C0VEN btw.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard...readID=1278003
Effective immediate ATLAS Alliance has reset c0ven alliance. Good luck to SE/c0ven, may you find prosperity in stain/empire.
The way its worded it sounds like Atlas is going to be removing any infrastructure/POSs that SE/C0VEN have. Just as predicted.
FORMERLY "LunarDuck"
Aren't we seeing exactly what happens when an SC entity acts as if the SC didn't have a shared standings list? As Cippalippus says, it's there, it's just not up on a webpage somewhere.
i bet ROL will side with SE, cause nync ain't no bitch.
i'm pretty emo about it considering its internet spaceships game.Damnit Bobby is a faggot and reset C0ven
At this point it seems that SE/C0ven are gonna get thrown under the SC bus. AAA will never side against IT or Atlas.
i *really* want to kill sys-k, almost as much as NC
Well - i hope that SC will enjoy 1000 people with 100 dreads and 10 titans operating from NPC Stain
Kinda Pyrrhic victory. SyS-K would failcascade after losing this was, C0ven&SE wont.
Think I would descibe it as, most big alliances in the south have an "understanding" with each other.
Most dont have the same standing lists nor ever fighting beside each other, but when it comes to big things and plans they look at the world through the same glasses.
Dont worry NC with or without coven/SE we coming to fuck you up
Should be interesting either way. As for those capitals, the geography of the area limits their use somewhat, it's a long trip through Querious and Delve to get to Period Basis from Stain. No such thing on the east side of the Stain-Querious gap of course.Well - i hope that SC will enjoy 1000 people with 100 dreads and 10 titans operating from NPC Stain
SHHHHH it was a secret!Dont worry NC with or without coven/SE we coming to fuck you up
Oh and its happening in 1 week aparently
Max2 is starting to sound a lot like Walking in stations.
Or the WI logo in game.
Bricks anchored SBU's in Esoteria Station system, that belongs to SE's citizens. SE flexed some muscles at those fags and got SBUs down.
http://killboard.xenobytes.se/?a=kil...&kll_id=141160 - SE kb
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=143094 - Brick kb
just as i said at the start of the thread huhDamnit Bobby is a faggot and reset C0ven
At this point it seems that SE/C0ven are gonna get thrown under the SC bus. AAA will never side against IT or Atlas.
We would never invade the north again especialy after seeing they can't fight a two front war. There is no reason atlas recalled and ordered it's members to carebear it up. There is certainly no large collection of players that want to kill the NC amassed around eve. Also our standings reset is in no way designed to be a distraction for the coming invasion. I also don't wear pants when flying imaginary spaceship
the only thing worse then a posting butter dog is a smug posting butter dog
Your alliance is still a piece of shit.just as i said at the start of the thread huh
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If Bobby gets directly involved in the war down there, it would be a pretty weak move by Atlas, imho. Looks like all Atlas forum whores are not supporting that decision.
Hopefully he won't, as I'd like to see SYS-K fail against SE/C0VEN. But judging from the way the reset is worded "may you find prosperity in stain/empire" seems like they are getting involved directly.
FORMERLY "LunarDuck"
the only correct thing you've posted in a while
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