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    -A-'s famously accurate killboard lists 2 BS lost while the 11 -A- BS killed on GS killboard alone are no doubt filthy goonie lies.

    edit: ok looking at the straight Losses: page lists more... guess it's mostly the related kills feature that's useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag Generator View Post
    -A-'s famously accurate killboard lists 2 BS lost while the 11 -A- BS killed on GS killboard alone are no doubt filthy goonie lies.
    The two related I posted above, shows 11 -A- BS losses. Hahaha, wouldn't even expect it to be that accurate, but that's a pretty weak attempt at trolling right there.

    edit: ok looking at the straight Losses: page lists more... guess it's mostly the related kills feature that's useless
    Confirm, -A- killboard related are beyond retarded and need to be worked on. It's very tricky to get the entire fight into two related without much overlapping.

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    There was about 400 wrecks on the field so quite safe to say kb haven't caught all and are useless really.

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    It borders on pointless to try to compare kb stats given the disparity between them and the fact lots of mails don't seem to get generated.

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    hey, this thread got better after logic stopped posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomo Carissimi View Post
    hey, this thread got better after logic stopped posting.
    Then why fucking troll him?

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    Node crashed, fuck CCP.

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    local reached about 1500 then the whole bloody node died. Looked to be an epic evening, now just 2k people all mashing a button hoping to login 1st will decide the fight.....

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    I got the feeling we were about to get blue-balled. I don't think Goons were going to engage.

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    Meh - some you win, some you loose. Y2 we didn't complain about the state of the server - to do so now would be hypocracy. Enjoy your station my goon friends

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    the battle's over already? what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Regard View Post
    There was about 400 wrecks on the field so quite safe to say kb haven't caught all and are useless really.
    Disclaimer: AJ Regard has never provided accurate numbers in a battle report in his illustrious and shitty posting career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fromeh View Post
    the battle's over already? what happened?
    The battle never happened - a couple of skirmishes on the gate and an awesome bomber run on our BS fleet while fail-bridging (lost approx 50 BS'S!)

    Just as things were warming up the node crashed. Been looking at "failed to log in" messages for about 40 mins now....

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    Oh. Assumed the fight was over cuz of this

    Enjoy your station my goon friends

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    Well as much as I would love to cheastbeat and claim that we will all wait it out, as the tz progresses EU guys will end up logging of swinging the advantage to goons.

    I guess this will be a good guage of how determined IT will b - if we can sit up at 3am mashing the login button then maybe we can go far.....

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    this game is really gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingo View Post
    this game is really gay
    Emptyquoting this.

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    it's pretty nice of ccp to save the station for goons

    there's a word filter for g-o-o-n-i-e-s > goons

    butthurt admins lol

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    isk ies mommies toonies lol :~P

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingo View Post
    this game is really gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by yearsurreal View Post
    it's pretty nice of ccp to save the station for goons

    there's a word filter for g-o-o-n-i-e-s > goons

    butthurt admins lol
    Well seeing as that term isn't actually insulting (just stupid,) no, we just have a higher intolerance of crappy posting.
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    Well, what can I say? Apparently the Southern Bloc and IT have more people with absolutely no life, than I expected. After waiting for over an hour on a login screen, the system was flooded with blues and station reinforced. Didn't expect this to happen to be honest. Determination, honor, morale post, etc. GF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yearsurreal View Post
    it's pretty nice of ccp to save the station for goons

    there's a word filter for g-o-o-n-i-e-s > goons

    butthurt admins lol
    It was pretty nice of ccp to allow IT to turkey shoot 4 titans..

    See how that works? It's a shit argument. Come back when you have something worth posting.

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    We were never going to fight once IT loaded system to begin with. Hope you all enjoyed staying up all night looking at a login screen, and thanks for the effortless ~70 kills. We'll see you all tomorrow and I guess Tuesday/Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scavok View Post
    We were never going to fight once IT loaded system to begin with. Hope you all enjoyed staying up all night looking at a login screen, and thanks for the effortless ~70 kills. We'll see you all tomorrow and I guess Tuesday/Wednesday.
    I sincerely hope that is not going to be the long-term strategy - it's a trade we are happy to make, to capture a system but it will get pretty boring for all concerned in the end....

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    The structures weren't going to go into reinforced by themselves anyway, fight or not. Just so that we don't lose sight of why all the ships were there among all the spin and baiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimFromIT View Post
    I sincerely hope that is not going to be the long-term strategy - it's a trade we are happy to make, to capture a system but it will get pretty boring for all concerned in the end....
    If you outnumbered or dont have a chance at least make it very even fight (so if you loose you can at last say ive enjoyed it) there is no reason to feed kills to the enemy. So I dont think goonies are that stupid, to leeroy and get slaughtered for hearing gf in local.

    Make it regurarly that people dont fight or spin ship at pos, shoot station, and do it for days, weeks,months and your participation goes to shit, make people look at kb, that every night there is ton of fights going on, caps diing, titans burning, and everyone will got the extra hours happily in return for this.

    The defender can wait for the best weak numb moment of you and strike. After a while the omfg big op, be there, we know from spying the enemy will show stop having effect, if people bore out or enemy just sleeps in bed.

    In the end its morale game and that is only affected by winning and having fun. While loosing your territory is never fun as you surely wanted it to defend in first place. YOu play for the grunts morale, if they happy and have fun, any leader can make a lot, if they not, even the best leader´s words wont be listened in the end.

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    Goonfleet has truly become what we hated the most - not only are we literally BoB, but we also (never) fight like Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    If you outnumbered or dont have a chance at least make it very even fight (so if you loose you can at last say ive enjoyed it) there is no reason to feed kills to the enemy. So I dont think goons are that stupid, to leeroy and get slaughtered for hearing gf in local.

    Make it regurarly that people dont fight or spin ship at pos, shoot station, and do it for days, weeks,months and your participation goes to shit, make people look at kb, that every night there is ton of fights going on, caps diing, titans burning, and everyone will got the extra hours happily in return for this.

    The defender can wait for the best weak numb moment of you and strike. After a while the omfg big op, be there, we know from spying the enemy will show stop having effect, if people bore out or enemy just sleeps in bed.

    In the end its morale game and that is only affected by winning and having fun. While loosing your territory is never fun as you surely wanted it to defend in first place. You play for the grunts morale, if they happy and have fun, any leader can make a lot, if they not, even the best leader´s words wont be listened in the end.

    It's a dangerous strategy though - the knife can cut both ways. If what Molle says is true and this is not a sov assault yet - how will that strategy work out if we are harassing your ratters and rf'ing your moons the whole time, how's that infrastructure going to be taken care of while you play the waiting game?

    Sitting and watching your empire burn is as damaging to morale as unrestricted killing of someones empire - and for all your comments about spies remember it's a 2-way street.

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    It is all just Goon damage control bullshit. They are outnumbered and outclassed. If they fight, they lose too many ships and do not prevent their opponents from reaching their goals. If they don't fight, they claim they won some sort of morale victory. Querious is going to burn and Delve will follow.

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    Goons are virtually having a civil war on thier boards about whether it's ok to enjoy consistently winning the K/D ratio. Meanwhile Gossip Whore says they are outclassed.

    They are sure as hell outnumbered, though.

    Hey here's an idea: since they're so much better, why doesn't AAA/Stainwagon take the iHub timers and IT and the rest take the station timers? They'll still have roughly equal numbers, and their superior class will tell. Arf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post
    Goons are virtually having a civil war on thier boards about whether it's ok to enjoy consistently winning the K/D ratio. Meanwhile Gossip Whore says they are outclassed.

    They are sure as hell outnumbered, though.

    Hey here's an idea: since they're so much better, why doesn't AAA/Stainwagon take the iHub timers and IT and the rest take the station timers? They'll still have roughly equal numbers, and their superior class will tell. Arf.
    Because they come out in Euro timezone, right? Simply put, AAA\Stainwagon can barely get equal numbers in US timezone on a weekend. IT is there to ensure that there are no good fights, because that's not what we came there for. We came there to achieve strategic goals by bl?bbing the g??nies.

    P.S. In your face, stupid word blocker, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag Generator View Post
    Goonfleet has truly become what we hated the most - not only are we literally BoB, but we also (never) fight like Atlas.
    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppilappic View Post
    by bl?bbing the g??nies.

    P.S. In your face, stupid word blocker, haha
    did it really only take a dot?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppilappic View Post
    Because they come out in Euro timezone, right? Simply put, AAA\Stainwagon can barely get equal numbers in US timezone on a weekend. IT is there to ensure that there are no good fights, because that's not what we came there for. We came there to achieve strategic goals by bl?bbing the g??nies.

    P.S. In your face, stupid word blocker, haha
    I don't know if you were trying to be sacarstic but you're pretty damn close to the truth. We've pretty much got a bunker mentality now - if it takes six months of shitty gameplay and grind we'll do it - because the truth of the matter is that when on a strategic campaign fun matters for shit. Once you've got what you want you can have downtime for R&R - till then it's nose to the grindstone and grind, grind away.

    Whether or not we've actually go the stomach to sustain this kind of campaign remains to be seen - but at the moment I'm fine with it and I think most other IT guys are.

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    God this forum has really gone to shit recently with all the new shitposters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post

    Hey here's an idea: since they're so much better, why doesn't AAA/Stainwagon take the iHub timers and IT and the rest take the station timers? They'll still have roughly equal numbers, and their superior class will tell. Arf.


    Wait, whats that?
    Is that really a goonie whining about being outnumbered?
    Is that the same goonie that didn't whine when he and the rest of eve were taking the same space?
    Is this really Irony Overload?

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    'rest of eve' rofl. we've been either outnumbered or fighting on even terms for a while now. The AAA vs goon thing was primarily a southern conflict until AAA realized how shit they were and napped the GBC and dragged them down south to bail them out. When bob got haargothed and the mad dash for delve started the initial battles like J-L and 8wa were more or less even, the loss of shrike and waagaa's mothership broke the GBC morale and led to them losing participation. this was about the only real time we had an edge in numbers and allowed us to camp them into pr- for a month while AAA and co were greedily taking abandoned space (you know, instead of helping their allies).

    then AAAwagon finally came west and packed 1400 people into 49-. the other side has been the ones superior numbersbin' for a long long time now and there's nothing 'ironic' about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On The Warpath View Post
    God this forum has really gone to shit recently with all the new shitposters.
    excellent 7th post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimFromIT View Post
    I don't know if you were trying to be sacarstic but you're pretty damn close to the truth. We've pretty much got a bunker mentality now - if it takes six months of shitty gameplay and grind we'll do it - because the truth of the matter is that when on a strategic campaign fun matters for shit. Once you've got what you want you can have downtime for R&R - till then it's nose to the grindstone and grind, grind away.

    Whether or not we've actually go the stomach to sustain this kind of campaign remains to be seen - but at the moment I'm fine with it and I think most other IT guys are.
    The trouble for IT isn't primarily that they have to out-grind goons. Although having failed to do so previously as Bob/GBC/Kenzoku that must be a concern for the medium-term. It's that they've staked this on AAA and Sys-K being able to out-grind Goonswarm, and on both Atlas and Tri being able to out-grind the north (in descending order of likeliness on the last two). Any gambler will tell you that if three-way accumulators came up all that often we'd all play them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingo View Post
    'rest of eve' rofl. we've been either outnumbered or fighting on even terms for a while now. The AAA vs goon thing was primarily a southern conflict until AAA realized how shit they were and napped the GBC and dragged them down south to bail them out. When bob got haargothed and the mad dash for delve started the initial battles like J-L and 8wa were more or less even, the loss of shrike and waagaa's mothership broke the GBC morale and led to them losing participation. this was about the only real time we had an edge in numbers and allowed us to camp them into pr- for a month while AAA and co were greedily taking abandoned space (you know, instead of helping their allies).

    then AAAwagon finally came west and packed 1400 people into 49-. the other side has been the ones superior numbersbin' for a long long time now and there's nothing 'ironic' about it.
    Lol, bail us out? You haven't managed to even touch -A- Sov. I remember your RIT triangle attack, and how it failed miserably. The only offensive achievement that Goonswarm got was getting a ROL station with a use of a spy in their alliance. That was back in the day when -A- was still not in the conflict and it was Goonswarm vs 300 man alliance, until Stain Wagon came to help them first. That's the only one. After that you were just defending and using "you are not killing us fast, thus we are awesome" attitude. We took C9N and failed to take VNJ, but the Esoteria front was doing well at that moment and your R64 moons dropping. And I'm personally quite happy that -A- secured their space and assets, because Haargoth fuckup was BoB's own fault, and the fact that they didn't request our help at the start was their strategic mistake.

    I know you want to argue about that all over again for 20 pages, but everyone has their own view on what happened. Basically, Goons sucked ass, they were going to die and got saved by a spy in BoB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post
    The trouble for IT isn't primarily that they have to out-grind goons. Although having failed to do so previously as Bob/GBC/Kenzoku that must be a concern for the medium-term. It's that they've staked this on AAA and Sys-K being able to out-grind Goonswarm, and on both Atlas and Tri being able to out-grind the north (in descending order of likeliness on the last two). Any gambler will tell you that if three-way accumulators came up all that often we'd all play them.
    Yeah, that's a pretty good point actually - it just goes to show how interlinked these conflicts are. Tri and Atlas don't have to out-griind the North though - just maintain a sustained pressure there. It all comes down to AAA and SysK in the south, they are the thing that break the stalemate but I don't know enough of their internal culture/situation to predict how much staying power they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppilappic View Post
    everyone has their own view on what happened.
    there's only one correct view, and that is that AAA is overrated garbage that has attempted to wipe us off the map twice now with their napfest of faggot alliances backing them up and failed.

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    ugh PL resets and AAA/IT cream themselves.

    I'm genuinely surprised that Goons didn't come to help them out at the end, and I imagine that PL's pride took more of a hit than their reputation. After the way PL supported Goons so unquestioningly just to get Goons the vanity trophy of Delve I did expect them to return the favour.
    and we have to endure more of the same shit from windy & co

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppilappic View Post
    everyone has their own view on what happened. Basically, Goons sucked ass, they were going to die and got saved by a spy in BoB.
    'Everyone has their own view but the TRUTH IS you sucked ass'

    Perhaps that's not what you meant to say but that's how it sounded. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt since you made that remarkably honest post about the reason for IT.

    edit why do I have this goddamn quote now

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimFromIT View Post
    I don't know if you were trying to be sacarstic but you're pretty damn close to the truth. We've pretty much got a bunker mentality now - if it takes six months of shitty gameplay and grind we'll do it - because the truth of the matter is that when on a strategic campaign fun matters for shit. Once you've got what you want you can have downtime for R&R - till then it's nose to the grindstone and grind, grind away.

    Whether or not we've actually go the stomach to sustain this kind of campaign remains to be seen - but at the moment I'm fine with it and I think most other IT guys are.
    i seriously doubt anyone would alarm clock every other night for 6 months for a video game, regardless of whether or not they're a member of it alliance

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLP View Post
    'Everyone has their own view but the TRUTH IS you sucked ass'

    Perhaps that's not what you meant to say but that's how it sounded. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt since you made that remarkably honest post about the reason for IT.

    edit why do I have this goddamn quote now
    it happens when you get so many posts
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    Things are heating up again, 49-u local broke 1000, I think Goons have more dreads in the system and around 10 titans, I-HUB comes out in 20 minutes and it doesn't look too good for -A- and Co.

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    Molle sent his e-girlfriend's alliance to camp NOL, I guess they haven't heard of Mister Vee.

    https://killboard.goonfleet.com/battles/1674

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    ccp got goonswarms back again

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