There's that word be misused again...Originally Posted by Weels
*frowns
There's that word be misused again...
*frowns
Getting reports of TRI using ~sploits~. Something about using dictor bubbles to drag their fleet through a POS shield, bumping stuff in between out of the field. c/d?
Lol, why does everyone always default to exploits when a new and cleaver use of game mechanics is thought up? I personally think it's funny.
Bumping things out of a pos shield you are unable to enter under normal game mechanics is basically an exploit. I dunno if they actually did that though.
Badges of Honor: Three probations, one reversed.
It can be done and I've experienced it, inadvertently. And nothing is an exploit until explicitly stated as such by CCP, until then...it's a feature. Besides that, it's probably just a bug when 2 competing mechanics go at it, just so happens that dictor bubbles win.
Tuesday
Triumvirate. CXN1-Z VI - Moon 6 promethium DOOM dead
Triumvirate. KQK1-2 VII - Moon 22 technetium Rionnag Alba dead
Initiative Mercenaries B8EN-S VII - Moon 11 platinum Unknown-Entity dead
Triumvirate. CXN1-Z VI - Moon 24 Rionnag Alba platinum
Monday
Triumvirate. KLY-C0 VI - Moon 5 technetium tropa de elite dead
Triumvirate. G95-VZ IV - Moon 1 promethium doom dead
RED.OverLord EC-P8R IX - Moon 14 technetium lethal corp dead
Triumvirate. ROIR-Y I - Moon 7 technetium rionnag alba dead
mostly harmless tfao promethium dead
is platinum worth way more than it was in apocrypha as well as tech? haven't been able to login in a month -_-
yeah those moons were definitely worth a titan loss.
stop moving the goalposts on the forums, you're making us look bad (worse).
Damn tropa lost 2 towers? Fuck it I'm going back to wicked creek, this shit is too hard.
Props to Phreeze for being most honest poster from NC. (lol inch)
Some Tri posters could learn a lesson... *cough*Weels*cough*
Jan 12nd
2 TRI towers were coming out of reinforced in the early afternoon. NC decision to move to ROIR proved to be effective, they were able to dominate the region from downtime to 17:00 and kill those 2 towers without resistance. Like yesterday, we (TRI) had to wait until 17:30 before we had the numbers to engage them, just in time to try to defend 2 more of our towers coming out of reinforced in the evening.
Fight took place in CXN (where NC had just onlined their tower) where a combined fleet of 140 TRI/Init/Co2 engaged a fleet of 200 NC. Both fleets were BS heavy and the fight was a traditional short range slug-fest on the gate. Ships were exploding at a decent rate and the fight was pretty even for 30-35 minutes, until a reinforcement fleet of 35-40 ROL/Evoke entered the field, turning the tide on our favour. When it was clear we were going to win this, NC de-aggressed and jumped back to X-7, we bubbled 10-15 of their BS but the rest of their fleet managed to retreat back to ROIR.
Lag was bad again, despite local beeing at only 350 and both sides beeing on grid already. Primaries were going down at a rate of 1-2 kills per minute, which is funny considering the 250 battleships on the field and says a lot about the current state of the server.
the fact that guns just refused to stop cycling was really leading to unexpeted results when trying to de-aggro... You couldn't de-aggro without warping away quite simply, nad natureally the gates involved were so bubbled that all i ever managed to do was sit there, shoot 1 target, swapped to another but my guns refused to stop, so could only sit there and die in the end
yeah, that doesn't sound like titan bumping at all. clearly an intended mechanic.
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Whatever moral position you personally want to take it is not up to you or me to call anything a exploit not untill the overlords call it so (or not).
Its a feauture untill CCP says otherwise. Tri is not part of the CCP QA department just like the NC is not.
I think the best rule of thumb is how much emo rage would occur if it happened to you. Can't blame players for abusing shit mechanics, but a spade is a spade.It was obviously not intended to work like that.
I'm sure if that happened to tri there would be much emo rage indeed. Heads would roll.I think the best rule of thumb is how much emo rage would occur if it happened to you. Can't blame players for abusing shit mechanics, but a spade is a spade.
Oh come on bro... its common logic you don't need them to tell you so. Its obviously an exploit, and till they rule on it you can play as much you want with it. (which I'm all for).
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I left my e-Bushido at the door back in 2007.
I have seen to many people abuse game mechanics or cheat without ccp's intervention to still care in 2010. Call me jaded or call me bitter i dont care but no side in eve has clean hands so just deal with it.
I just commented on the "its not an exploit" part. Didn't say it shouldn't be used :P
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tri sploiting. you can take the pet out of the GBC, but you can't take the GBC out of the pet, eh?
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you be trollin dawg
choochoo
Next stop c4c
We are liberating my navy mega in c4c so the fight for that system has started.
Fun so far.
22:47:32 Notify D00M. has onlined a Sovereignty Blockade Unit
obligatory propaganda image:
Big fight going down in JC-YX8, several TRIblock Titans are tackled, lots of dead BS's; NC logistics was strong, from what I can tell right now we killed a LOT. Time to see whether we kill Titans, will update in a bit.
UPDATE: Titans logged, cleaning up remaining caps and whatnot.
Lag in JC- is terrible, Fighterdrones not doing any damage, Dreads not cycling, blues showing up as reds on the overview, just bullshit everywhere.
At first Tri+Co Titans pretty much raped everything, then NC bridged a huge boatload of Capitals in and node pretty much died (for me). For all i know all Titans have been saved, don't know about capitals and subcapitals though.
I'm confused, NC are bragging about total rapage of capitals, but all I see on KBs so far is just dead BS and one triumvirate carrier vs 7 NC dreads killed. What gives? How many TriCo capitals really died?
Its prbly pretty even on tri killing 14-15 dreads, nc killing a dozen or more carriers, but alot of mails are not being generated.
NC deployed SBU in JC- and reinforced the Station. Apparently Co2 was too retarded or poor to online an IHub in JC-
JC- Station in reinforce. No Ihub, so just waiting till next station timer i guess.
As far as lag was concerned, didn't seem as bad as i had it b4 (as in Y-2). It was still bad though. System peaked at around 650 ~ 700 ish.
edit: dammit pripyat
The Aftermath:
No, I don't usually have all that shit on my overview.
Trico had to logoffski 3 titans.
Subcap wise NC dominated from start to finish. Tri achievements can be put down to DD'ing things.
Are you secretly Arghy because you are an unironically terrible poster. First, killboards don't acquire kills instantly. Sometimes it takes quite a while. Other times killmails never appear at all. In a few hours we'll see a clearer picture. Second, it's not necessarily the raw kills that matter but the fact that the NC put Tri in a very awkward position (kind of like when you struggle to make a good post) and showed that they are fully capable of damaging their enemy in a significant way. Finally, in most post-Dominion battles, lag will not allow the proper number of ships to be killed as they would have in a lagless environment. Again, it's more about who is capable of landing a big blow to the enemy rather than who actually does.
you realized you just got trolled right? i'm just letting you know.
really? I definitely keep wrecks on overview, then sort by icon. tis the NC loot-whoring way.
It was a troll all along!
So, what's going on? is the NC finally waking up (kinda) or what? Looks like they did well yesterday?
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Im afraid to answer as a factual post with a attempt at being funny gets you a infraction. Fuck you alex and your dumb bitter shit!!
on topic:
The NC knows we are not backing down and will keep going till attleast MH being wiped of the map but probably untill one of the sides is defeated. Yesterday they went on the counter offensive in JC- where once again the idiocy of our allies is nicely displayed with putting no ihub in jc-. This means they can skip the reinforced dance surrounding the ihub and go straight for station.
Pretty smart move on their part i think because they could have fought us in c4c but chose jc- which is much more demoralizing in a 'oh fuck not this place again'.
Now that CCP is definately making progress on getting the server up to pre-Dominion standards (a long way to go but its improving) and there are known counters to the grid lag (mainly the 500> au jump ins) i suppose the NC has found its balls again judging by last night. Props to them and lets hope we will have many enjoyable fights.
Well barring lack of lossmails due to lag .. Wasn't much of a slaughter from what I could see, NC took a heavier loss of caps than TriCO did from what I can see here
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=k...&kll_id=253351
Oh and Initiative lost 1 chimera too .. so 3 carriers down in that case, for 10 dreads killed .. Odd how those aren't on NC's collective KB though.. statspadding inc?
Also many tri titans got bubbled, but none died, 2 survived due to ctrl-q, rest managed to warp off .. some such.
That's an absolutely terrible post.
As has been mentioned before NC combined KB is broke. Many Tri + co could be bothered to make a combined KB to get some accurate stats? Many, many of your Carriers generated no loss mails at all and NC removed all subcap ships from the field. The only reason the fight went moderately well from your prospective was the ability to DD shit. Without those titans these "perfectly fair killboards" would look a little bit different...
Looks like another corp (4 wing) has dropped out of Mostly Harmless recently.
Surprisingly MH total members seem to be holding around 1400 due to the recruiting of new corporations (most of them being ex-councill).
EVE fail pilot since 06.
Without all them Nc Ravens your side would have lost Mister!
probably.
And i guess I'll bite at weels' troll. As its been state before, arguing killboards is shit and always will be shit. i could go further, but it would be pointless.
Gotta love the 12 fakemails of TRI carriers on MM killboard. You guys are really trying to grasp for straws. I realize that some killmails didn't generate, but why make them up?
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Imperian needs something to wank over is my guess.
But they WERE able to DD shit, and the fight did go as it did... so why even discuss what "could have happened"?
If you look at the screenshot I posted, you'll see ten carrier wrecks in just the visible part of my overview; you'll have to take my word for it, but my overview wasn't set up to show friendly wrecks, and all the tickers on those were TRIco. There were more than that killed which could be seen if the overview was scrolled down.
Durrrr
People are not disputing that ships were lost and km not generated. People are laughing at NC desperatly trying to push numbers to prove they won. The server ate your victory if you want to believe it just let it rest it happens.
I personally lost a zealot, a guardian and a lolAf the other day while no km's were generated, good for our kb stats but im still out 300/350 mil in replacements.
I was referring to Weels' post claiming that the NC lost more caps than TRIco; I never said we didn't take losses. Of course, responding to his posts could be a waste of time.
You are a troll and a moron. We held the field, we reinforced the station, we killed more than we lost. So yes, we won the battle. Whether we can keep winning battles remains to be seen.
WOw, Hi Whiner, we weren't the only one's fielding titans .. so, lossmails/killmails generated or not, you could quite easily say you would of lost had you not brought titans, and most of those supposedly dead carriers (I'm sure there were some) may actually have lived if you hadn't.. So yeah... I know you held the field, so congrats victors!
How in the hell did weels not get 464547 infractions yet? gawddamnit!
this isn't eastern germany buddy
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