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    Silvio is one corrupt, murdering son of a bitch but at least he sticks it to the commies.
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    there aren't any commies left tbh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Silvio is one corrupt, murdering son of a bitch but at least he sticks it to the commies.
    So, you'd take a corrupt, murdering son of a bitch over communism. You are 1980's American foreign policy.

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    I think he was trolling actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    I think he was trolling actually
    I think I was too. it's hard to tell these days.

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    Oh you were. And I agreed 100% with your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav View Post
    So, you'd take a corrupt, murdering son of a bitch over communism.
    Yes.
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    Is he trolling now??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    Is he trolling now??
    Nah, just being Alex.

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    Would you people honestly prefer a communist government (with all of the foibles that go with it) to one that is corrupt and has links to organized crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Would you people honestly prefer a communist government (with all of the foibles that go with it) to one that is corrupt and has links to organized crime?
    This ^^
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    I'd like an actual communist government, not the Stalin communism.

    But I guess Humans are too morally corrupt to deal with a utopia.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Would you people honestly prefer a communist government (with all of the foibles that go with it) to one that is corrupt and has links to organized crime?
    You think the two are mutually exclusive?

    For that matter, you think those are the only two alternatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    I'd like an actual communist government, not the Stalin communism.

    But I guess Humans are too morally corrupt to deal with a utopia.
    I agree 100%. I want to live in the Culture, but I don't think anything like it could exist, unless humans engineered themselves into something else.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture

    Also Alex you need to stop listening to that Tea Party/Republican bullshit. I'ts scare tactics for people who don't know how to think. I heard a fox news broadcaster comparing new taxes to the holocaust today, and I wonder what the fuck kind of country do I live in, and why the fuck do I stay here? I'd leave for whatever socialist european country would have me atm.

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    Come to Canada, it's way fucking better than the US.

    Everytime I hear of US political reform (such as medicare reform, limiting company's ability to contribute aka bribe politicians, etc.) I think, oh hey look we already have this in Canada.

    You're only really screwed over if you're in the top 0.1% of the country that runs everything.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    @ Hav

    No, when I was mentioning "foibles" I was implying that you'd end up with government sponsored killings (which is much worse than most anything Berlusconi lets his mob buddies get away with,) corruption out the ass and a bunch of other things as well.

    You were the one who made it an either or. I'd rather have neither, obviously, but between the two I would chose the generic corrupt authoritarian government over the generic communist one.

    @ Lysander

    I don't get why you think I listen to tea party stuff because I don't. Its possible to be right wing without being a frothing at the mouth support our troops person just as its possible to be a left winger without dressing up like a circus freak and mulling around the town square with your equally ridiculous looking friends.

    @ Yorda

    I'd rather not have government funded political parties, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    n just as its possible to be a left winger without dressing up like a circus freak and mulling around the town square with your equally ridiculous looking friends.
    oh me oh my

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    @ Yorda

    I'd rather not have government funded political parties, thank you very much.
    Better than having an easily bribed government in the pocket of big business.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    No, when I was mentioning "foibles" I was implying that you'd end up with government sponsored killings
    Oh, you mean capital punishment. Good thing that only places like China do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    You were the one who made it an either or. I'd rather have neither, obviously, but between the two I would chose the generic corrupt authoritarian government over the generic communist one.
    And as I was attempting to point out, there's very little difference at the thin end of the wedge. Current communist states are either dictatorships (Cuba) or corporatist (PRC) with the communist tag being very loosely applied to anything 'bad'. Much the same as 'socialist'.

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    unjust government sponsored killings

    No, I'm pretty sure I've only applied it to people who considered themselves to be communists (and yes there are admitted communists on the Italian left.)
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    Welp, so the new rolleyes smilie sucks, thats great to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    unjust government sponsored killings
    I think being the government means you can pretty much justify everything, honeybunch.

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    We seem to have different definitions of just.
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    god, this discussion sucks.

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    At least we picked the right forum for it. Which reminds me, its probably time to give it a new title, you got anything funny for it?
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    Word spreads of Silvio being a Twilight fanboi
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    hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    We seem to have different definitions of just.
    'just' is subjective.

    I trust we have the same concept of 'subjective'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Which reminds me, its probably time to give it a new title, you got anything funny for it?
    Btw, I did give some thought to that, the problem is with the current title you just raised the bar too high. Then again we could just keep it and only change the holiday. So post Christmas we have "Welcome to Hurleyhouse: Easter is ruined" etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    unjust government sponsored killings

    No, I'm pretty sure I've only applied it to people who considered themselves to be communists (and yes there are admitted communists on the Italian left.)
    Communists don't actually believe in communism they believe in the bastardized version of communism aka Stalinism.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    I like Putinism then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    I'd like an actual communist government, not the Stalin communism.

    But I guess Humans are too morally corrupt to deal with a utopia.
    Vote for me, i am running for presidency again. things will change.

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    Terrible necro by a terrible poster in a terrible thread.
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    Since we have revived it,

    If he hadn't paid the 'underage' call girl, he wouldn't have broken any laws. What he is going down over is the fact she wasn't 18+ and money changed hands, which is against the law. She was actually over the age of consent, but not majority.

    Anyway

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    OK i might be a little gay. also, what is a necro?
    necrophilia as in humping a dead thread?.
    well, i am not sorry. he is on the news again.
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    would have been awesome if he had really humped an underage niece of mubarak.
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