Cobalt Edge: Holy shit the NC went on the offensive.

[Lordo]

The battle report from starcrash had a ridiculous amount of spelling errors, and grammatical errors, so i will try and re-write it with less:

So in QV- on friday 2 csaa poses were reinforced, both of them had 20 hardeners on it and it literally drained the life out of everyone who did it. An hour or so beforehand an imperian armor hac gang came in and torched the cyno beacon, as well as burn eden incapping all the station services earlier in the day.

Instead of just reinforcing them for lolz, the NC high command decided that we will fight and we will actually try and destroy them. CTA's were posted across the NC in every alliance, the fleet began at 19:00, and within 30 minutes the fleet was maxed the fuck out, with a second fleet having to be created. Imperian also started an armor hac gang(afterburners/remote eccm/big armor buffer/PL ripoff but hey it works) . So the fight was on and 2 hours before any poses even came out of reinforced the fight began in d9z with a supercapital/capital hotdrop by solar fleet saving their pets. DBRB like a shining beacon of obesity , saw through the fog of war and instantly broadcasted the cyno pilot so only about 1/3 of their fleet managed to jump into the system. Imperian was close behind in his armor hac gang but got stuck for an hour loading system(amazingly not a single fucking person died).

End result in d9z: http://rawr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6781985

The subcaps then jumped into mo- and the Drone russkis+ irc pets jumped in behind them and Starcrash's fleet picked off some of them off before he warped to the QV- gate, with imperians armor hac gang (which had finally loaded) close behind. Then began possibly the most lopsided battle in eve's history, the NC was outnumbered well over 3 to 1, and had absolutely no capital support, only subcapitals(7 midpoints, no thanks) . Imperians armor hac gang proved an unshakeable juggernaut of ridiculous ownage. They tanked the entirety of the Drone region supercapital blob+ subcap blob, losing only 10 hacs , and killing hundreds of support, and a large amount of capitals too. SOLAR eventually realised there was a very real chance of them losing supercapitals and emergency cynoed out of the system leaving IRC to fend for themselves.

Cobra2k was also on the way with a 250man reinforcement bs gang and they piled into the system and began nuking one of the CSAA poses that was out of reinforced and was blown away and the CSAA was killed with a nyx in construction , asthe second one was hitting armor, IRC warped in 10 (lol)triage carriers and a load of support in one last desperate attempt to save their CSAA after solar and red alliance abandoned them. The support was obliterated and IRC lost 7 of the carriers. The next csaa pos died at stupid o'clock(the op at this point in time had lasted well over 7 hours) and the csaa was unanchored and ferried away in a freighter(thanks for that nyx bpo).

http://rawr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6783004
http://rawr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6787247

tl:dr NC brought lots of socks to poop in and even though outnumbered 3:1 on average and 5:1 at some points, managed to beat a supercapital blob back with only sub-capitals, and armor hacs managing to tank 400 people with only 10 losses and 100+ killed. One CSAA died with a nyx in build, the other CSAA died after a futile last stand from IRC after SOLAR and RA abandoned them to the forces of null sec and was unanchored and scooped and ferried away under a giant escort.

The op lasted almost 10 hours in the end, everyone was completely fucking exhausted, but god dam we did NOT expect to win this, we were completely outnumbered by supercapitals yet we managed to prevail. The spirit of PL was with us in the form of imperians armor hacs, which really fucking helped.

[Varesk]

The battle report from starcrash had a ridiculous amount of spelling errors, and grammatical errors, so i will try and re-write it with less:



tl:dr NC brought lots of socks to poop in and even though outnumbered 3:1 on average and 5:1 at some points, managed to beat a supercapital blob back with only sub-capitals, and armor hacs managing to tank 400 people with only 10 losses and 100+ killed. One CSAA died with a nyx in build, the other CSAA died after a futile last stand from IRC after SOLAR and RA abandoned them to the forces of null sec and was unanchored and scooped and ferried away under a giant escort.

The op lasted almost 10 hours in the end, everyone was completely fucking exhausted, but god dam we did NOT expect to win this, we were completely outnumbered by supercapitals yet we managed to prevail. The spirit of PL was with us in the form of imperians armor hacs, which really fucking helped.

i would also say that LAG might have helped out a bit also.

[Grarr Dexx]

To be honest, against blobs like that, it works more against it than for.

[Pripyat]

Going out on a limb here but Fighters doing no damage at all might have helped somewhat against the Capblob.

Solar-KB: http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/inde...fleet&name=169

[Altair]

So BE have gone from ganking NC in H-W to attacking in Cobalt together?

[Lordo]

Burn eden are not attached to the NC in any way except for the fact they are griefing the same target.

[fat libertarian [banned]]

post some IRC porn if you got any

[kriegherr]

Ah yes, the heroic NC. Always outnumbered, never outgunned.

Do you people get lonely when you're not in a maxed fleet or something?

[Mr Coloredshirt]

Ah yes, the heroic NC. Always outnumbered, never outgunned.

Do you people get lonely when you're not in a maxed fleet or something?

Dude maxed out fleets are awesome, why else would you train FC5?

[Grarr Dexx]

Going out on a limb here but Fighters doing no damage at all might have helped somewhat against the Capblob.

Solar-KB: http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/inde...fleet&name=169

Where's the hundreds of support that were killed by the armor hacs? :

[kriegherr]

It looks like the Solar kb doesn't sync with the IRC board.

[EnacheV1 [banned]]

offensive against irc by 30k nc mediocre blob ? why im not surprised, even guristas plexes are harder than that. also shooting 2 pos'es is not offensive.

post cta on all 1000 nc alliance boards ... to go kill 2 irc posses omfg

[Pripyat]

It looks like the Solar kb doesn't sync with the IRC board.

I think there's quite a delay until SF-KB synches with Eve-Kill.

http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6783770
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6782007

I don't know, are there still kills missing? Looks like Ship-Wise, all Alliances involved were doing pretty okay. The loss of the CSAA and two Nyxes might sting a bit of course. Also, morale.

[luvcuminbum]

I heard those moms are rental to be paid solar so IRC won't be caring too much unless solar or whoever is chasing their debt.

[Czech Lion]

Drone Russians getting paid in motherships, where did i hear that before
Anyway for Solar IRC is still good meatshield, so they can stay calm if they not failcascade.

[Pripyat]

A lot of Russians insist those Nyxes where Solar although SF keep denying it.
Anyway worst case would be that IRC could failcascade when BE keeps harrassing them and NC hurting their Wallet. IRC doesn't really have a strong Idendity, lots of mediocre Corps cobbled together to earn some ISK.
I could imagine quite a lot of internal fingerpointing and baaawing.

[kriegherr]

I think there's quite a delay until SF-KB synches with Eve-Kill.

http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6783770
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6782007

I don't know, are there still kills missing? Looks like Ship-Wise, all Alliances involved were doing pretty okay. The loss of the CSAA and two Nyxes might sting a bit of course. Also, morale.

Oh wow, that doesn't look even close to

outnumbered 3:1 on average and 5:1 at some points, managed to beat a supercapital blob back with only sub-capitals, and armor hacs managing to tank 400 people with only 10 losses and 100+ killed.

[Cippalippus]

offensive against irc by 30k nc mediocre blob ? why im not surprised, even guristas plexes are harder than that. also shooting 2 pos'es is not offensive.

post cta on all 1000 nc alliance boards ... to go kill 2 irc posses omfg

lol who is this guy

[Quesa]

Hardly an offensive.

[Umad]

this isn't an offensive.

We shot those towers to get fights out of IRC a couple of times , they somehow got reinforced by starcrash (who has way too much time apparently). And they somehow ended up getting killed because 90 armour hacs where tanking the defensive surperiornumbers.

<3 PL for letting us steal your fotm-faggot-ships, although they where part of the deal involving the NC paying PL many many billions to attack delve.

I'd love it if this turned into an offensive though

[Yorda]

Drones being completely fucking useless in lag? I'm shocked and surprised by this interesting new revelation.

[sacul]

Invasion? yes the NC needs more space i agree.

[penifSMASH]

Invasion? yes the NC needs more space i agree.

they're obv just trying to get fights you retard

[Farham]

Drones being completely fucking useless in lag? I'm shocked and surprised by this interesting new revelation.

Second time I've read this and being a very, very part time player right now, so no ability to directly test, was there official notification that drones were "reduced" in importance to the server order of operations as in "what gets done first"?

[Mr Coloredshirt]

Drones can't cycle their guns

[BobFromMarketing [banned]]

Its pretty easy to make fighters work in lag actually.

[Sirius A]

A lot of Russians insist those Nyxes where Solar although SF keep denying it.
Anyway worst case would be that IRC could failcascade when BE keeps harrassing them and NC hurting their Wallet. IRC doesn't really have a strong Idendity, lots of mediocre Corps cobbled together to earn some ISK.
I could imagine quite a lot of internal fingerpointing and baaawing.

I would have to call u on this. To say my corp, StarFleet Enterprises is "mediocre" is heresy at best. Shame on you :P

[Big Cyz]

Not an offensive. Nothing to see here. Move along...

[Propagandas]

Its pretty easy to make fighters work in lag actually.

Oh look, a clever remark from somebody who wants to look like he knows a ~secret~ nobody else knows.

Guns cycle better in lagg, Players usually focus fire much better with guns then with drones usually, hence, guns > drones in high lagg.

[Lordo]

Guns cycle better in lagg

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[Perseus Kallistratos]

Burn eden are not attached to the NC in any way except for the fact they are griefing the same target.

Lordo is right. Burn Eden often camp H-W and neighboring systems with small cloaky ops (Recons, Machariels w/cloaks) etc. They work with people on a case to case basis... just looking for fights and kills.

Second time I've read this and being a very, very part time player right now, so no ability to directly test, was there official notification that drones were "reduced" in importance to the server order of operations as in "what gets done first"?

LOL

Its pretty easy to make fighters work in lag actually.

All hear. Top damage dealer on every TCU from the recent NC war is speaking. He is an expert on drones of all types. Listen, and you too can become top damage dealer all through his guide on using Drones in Lag!

[Propagandas]

:

Im not trolling.
You can manually cycle guns, you cannot do that with drones.

[Farham]

Second time I've read this and being a very, very part time player right now, so no ability to directly test, was there official notification that drones were "reduced" in importance to the server order of operations as in "what gets done first"?

LOL



Not sure why the LOL. I specifically read a battle report just after Tyranis came out that even though the lag was shittier than before they were able to fire and cycle guns much better but as a side consequence drones seemed to be completely fucked IE not responding or firing/doing damage.

[BobFromMarketing [banned]]

Oh look, a clever remark from somebody who wants to look like he knows a ~secret~ nobody else knows.

Guns cycle better in lagg, Players usually focus fire much better with guns then with drones usually, hence, guns > drones in high lagg.

Uh it's not a secret you're just a fucking idiot. You have to cycle drones in lag just like guns. OH GOD BIG SECRET REVEALED WHAT WILL I DO.

[Altair]

Lordo is right. Burn Eden often camp H-W and neighboring systems with small cloaky ops (Recons, Machariels w/cloaks) etc. They work with people on a case to case basis... just looking for fights and kills.

They had some moms in deep safes and were harassing H-W with them nightmars as well.

I questioned a co-op with NC because giving BE nature and play style (BOBS - select fights/gank - no sov) it doesn't seem like in-capping station services is their style of grief. Those take a lot of time and effort, usually only affect long-term sieges, and rarely draw a fight.

In regard to this drone talk, i wouldn't be surprised. It's been pretty clear from the info we've seen that thing are prioritized now. Drones add a lot of information/communication with the server, (ie. your commands, the damage generated from each drone, their flight and models, even if you have drones models off) only CCP and, err i mean only god knows.

[Perseus Kallistratos]

I questioned a co-op with NC because giving BE nature and play style (BOBS - select fights/gank - no sov) it doesn't seem like in-capping station services is their style of grief. Those take a lot of time and effort, usually only affect long-term sieges, and rarely draw a fight.

Yeah, I can't see BE doing anything involving station services. Risky for small, Spec Ops style fighting and completely worthless sofar as kills go. Any proof to support the battle report stating otherwise?

[Lordo]

Burn eden have 2 titans, and 5 supercarriers in cobalt edge, trust me they have the firepower to ninja incap a station service before IRC's terrible FC's formup.

[ptrpanda]

lol u mad

[Stay On Target]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that the NC will collectively miss the SC invasion in about a month when they realize IRC will never be a challenge, and they may as well be shooting rats with the shit loot IRC drops.

[Xunasy]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that the NC will collectively miss the SC invasion in about a month when they realize IRC will never be a challenge, and they may as well be shooting rats with the shit loot IRC drops.

Yes because we all hate having to fight low skill opponents and slaughter bs fleets outnumbered.

[Quesa]

Yes because we all hate having to fight low skill opponents and slaughter bs fleets outnumbered.

Totally, we do it every day.

[PondDweller]

Its pretty easy to make fighters work in lag actually.

Actually all your TCU kills are from before CCP fucked up fighters and bombers in the latest patches.

Try it now.

[BobFromMarketing [banned]]

Actually none of the TCU kills were in laggy times or what I was referencing when I said "FB work in lag"

Try it now.

[Hratli Smirks]

Your posts are offensive.

[Quesa]

Your posts are offensive.

It's just par for the course.

[Kythren]

actually after tanking the entire supercapblob our hictor died pretty fast when he finally bubbled up and thus couldnt get repped anymore and lost speed, SOMETHING has to be wrong with your logic about drones there...

hint:
http://rawr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6786305