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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    you guys harp on about the SC saying that they are better than the NC, yet ive never seen anyone say that (apart from molle, but srsly?). If you want to play it that way you guys are backpatting eachother saying you beat people who think they are better than you, just to make your "plebs" feel better...
    Are you being stupid or trying to troll people into digging out all the quotes from the SC shitposting squad going on and on about NC being all carebears and SC bringing pvp content, etc etc? Sometimes i can't tell with you.

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    Few questions to NC guys?

    how come MH has freking 29 systems with 800+ people?
    why Get off my Lawn has 4 systems spread around?
    How come pureblind has so many unclaimed systems? (i know its a war zone but you can pack few ppl in there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    you guys harp on about the SC saying that they are better than the NC, yet ive never seen anyone say that (apart from molle, but srsly?). If you want to play it that way you guys are backpatting eachother saying you beat people who think they are better than you, just to make your "plebs" feel better...
    Ofc we are, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Regard View Post
    Ofc we are, hands down.
    Ha-HA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    imo this game needs more molles and more darius JOHNSONS, what we don't need is more bobbys or xdeaths or macteps or vuks

    bring back evil thug tia
    Agree. Everyone became a beancounter and the game is slowly grinding to a halt as a result. Molle and darius do it the Leeroy way and we laugh at it (Your isk efficiency sucks!) , but I've never denied that it creates the vital action we need for Eve to live on.

    This "Let's skirmish each other while we keep building up a vast supercap fleet so nobody can seriously challenge us" shit needs to stop, but as long as vuk, fred, xdeath and bobby are set on playing that way it will stay that way.

    It would be fun to see IT and Atlas go at it, just as it would be fun to see MM and Razor go at it, but the sad part is that the north will just keep their buttbuddy status forever while chastising others for forming coalitions.

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    I love how all the fags who tried killing us and failed now blame us for not killing ourselves.

    Come better prepared next time. Maybe plan ahead a little, EVE is like chess, you see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Conquistador View Post
    I am afraid that some people may actually believe this. Friend...the NC has existed for years. 20+ shitty alliances huddled up together like a bunch of fucking faggots because none are good enough to exist on their own. The SC.....has existed for like 2 months and only because NC is seriously ruining eve. The "SC" is really just 4-5 independent alliances who honestly believe that you northern guys are pantie wearing space pussies. Seriously who huddles up like a bunch of faggots in a computer game so they wont get killed? Fucking lame.
    Your words..... They are so beautiful... My panties have been creamed. This is pure awesome.

    I think I love you

    As for the ex-goon faggots statement above - a weak example of shitty propoganda to further your own internet space interests. If you can convince the world that it is the infamous SC that is huddled up like faggots to protect themselves from being killed then it will benefit a new rise to power for faggots on your side. Yeah...good luck with that. Everyone with a reasonable IQ level knows the NC is a pack of faggot zebras just trying to stay within the herd.

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    well NC can go on invasion mode and go after one of the SC entity. if NC were to go after Atlas i doubt IT will show up. It will be just Atlas/GC/Cow/Primary. + renters vs NC. Heck if PL plays in Stain you wont see -A- at all.

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    The NC was formed to counter the GBC, so ultimately it's Molles fault and you should take out your angst on him and his alliance.

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    It was formed cause the north was full of incompetent retards (I was one of them).


    Also please invade atlas space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Conquistador View Post
    I am afraid that some people may actually believe this. Friend...the NC has existed for years. 20+ shitty alliances huddled up together like a bunch of fucking faggots because none are good enough to exist on their own. The SC.....has existed for like 2 months and only because NC is seriously ruining eve. The "SC" is really just 4-5 independent alliances who honestly believe that you northern guys are pantie wearing space pussies. Seriously who huddles up like a bunch of faggots in a computer game so they wont get killed? Fucking lame.

    As for the ex-goon faggots statement above - a weak example of shitty propoganda to further your own internet space interests. If you can convince the world that it is the infamous SC that is huddled up like faggots to protect themselves from being killed then it will benefit a new rise to power for faggots on your side. Yeah...good luck with that. Everyone with a reasonable IQ level knows the NC is a pack of faggot zebras just trying to stay within the herd.
    Jesus christ, bro you have some major issues. I also think you haven't been playing this game for that long if you think the NC is the only coalition looking out for its own interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post


    Also please invade atlas space.
    Your space is probably the worst in the entire game.

    Also, Angels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    Your space is probably the worst in the entire game.
    Provi is quite bad.

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    provi was good after dominion. Lot of the systems had ton of good anoms all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Nozh View Post
    provi was good after dominion. Lot of the systems had ton of good anoms all the time.
    True that. I guess now with all the system upgrades any space can have anoms and the like.

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    It's part of our defence plan. "let's get angel space since no one is dumb enough to fight us for it"

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    How does the one exclude the other? Incompetent retards in the north were being invaded by less incompetent retards from the south and thus formed a coalition to defend themselves. The only thing that changed is that the southern retards have cought up on the incompetence part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    Your space is probably the worst in the entire game.

    Also, Angels.
    gist (angel) shield stuff is more expensive than pith (gurista) shield stuff atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston View Post
    Provi is quite bad.
    Sanshas are pretty easy to kill compared to Angels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    I think the fundamental difference between the NC and the SC is the SC believes carebears should be put to work as renters and "pvpers" (what ever that means) should use the rent from the carebears that fight other pvpers. The NC on the other hand doesn't care about what you do when the coalition isn't being invaded, as long you you contribute when the coalition is being invaded you're golden.
    If you are coming to this conclusion because of what happened to ATLAS renters, I guess I could see this. However, ATLAS didn't go defend the region because it was a buffer region. ATLAS took it back because they are back from the North.

    The differences between the NC and SC have been discussed over and over. I tend to think the NC is an old model put together in a time when they might have been needed. SC is made of Alliances that don't wish to be blue to everything in the South but maintain diplomatic ties to each other because of the North. The SC doesn't work well together as a single entity, as seen and is more interested in combat than anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston View Post
    Indulge me. Sorry for being so stupid, but I am still confused on how you are going to be any different than the stagnating NC. Atlas resets the entire SC, which I seriously doubt will come to anything. I can't see Atlas going after -A- even though I would jump in and help anyone who wants to go after -A-. You got some Eastern Euros in Venal fighting it out, but what about the majority? I still don't see it. I guess you can keep beating up on all the corps and alliance that try to gate camp in Curse, but that can only be so fun before it gets tedious. I am not trying to pick a fight, but I really don't see you being different than anyone else.

    resetting the SC means nothing if you are only going to have a skirmish here and there. I do like the fact that Atlas says they want fights and shit, but unless it actually happens it is still just foreplay.
    ATLAS will likely keep a few Alliances blue due to need. CoW and GC are kinda like long lost brothers and -A- holds ATLAS's empire entry ground.

    As for the NC stagnating? It's been stated by NC posters that the war was exactly what they needed to reinvigorate. It stands to reason that if most of the attacking entities leave, they'll begin the same process of stagnating again. The NC won't go on any major offensive because they know they'll fail just as bad as the SC, in both participation and progress. If the NC does decide to go down South, they probably won't make the mistake of calling it an invasion and hide behind "good fights" or "road-trip" so they can't be ridiculed as much as the South.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    It is a myth that the SC is any better at pvp than the NC and it's the SC perpetuating this myth in hopes that they can rally enough plebs so they can crush the NC and take the North and all the tech moons for themselves. It's clever propaganda but anyone with a reasonable IQ level knows the SC is a band of shitty blobbers with no real pvp accomplishments. At least the NC can claim they killed BoB, a worthwhile entity that could legitimately claim to be good at pvp.
    Both sides are heavily weighted with bears and the reason one won't defeat the other is because you can't get bears to move across the Eve map and participate in lag-tastic battles and endless structure grinding while the pirates take over their home systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    gist (angel) shield stuff is more expensive than pith (gurista) shield stuff atm.
    And thats about it, aside from the Mach BPC here and there

    Quote Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston View Post
    Provi is quite bad.
    Still this train of thought? =/

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    we would call it a road trip, because the chances of us kicking someone else outside of their space, excluding terrible alliances like IRC or Sys-k, are very slim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    so will IT/AAA/ROL/INIT/Evoke start sharing comms and being in unified fleets? i guess that would be a step in a better direction....
    Yesterday was a nice slugfest between NC vs. SC/Red Alliance. All SC-Pilots intelligent enough to eventally get past ROLs API-Verifier piled into ROLs Teamspeak to get screamed at by Twinkey. Only Red Alliance and White Noise were on their own Coms and own Fleets because they were only temporarily blue and probably because many of them don't unterstand English and ev0ke stayed on their own TS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malaclypse View Post
    HAHA! Ev0ke and non-German coms. Oh, I'd like to see that.
    HA, yeah. At least they were in the SC-Fleet though but on their own coms and got Twinkeys Orders transmitted/translated by their own FC/Targetcaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    And thats about it, aside from the Mach BPC here and there
    dramiels, cynabals (280m whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat) and machs are fucking op atm, if there was a reason to farm Angels it is for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    dramiels, cynabals (280m whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat) and machs are fucking op atm, if there was a reason to farm Angels it is for them.
    I have a sad feeling that at least the Dramiel is going to get fucked after patch starts working (in a week?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post
    It was formed cause the north was full of incompetent retards (I was one of them).


    Also please invade atlas space.
    Your space is shit, Goons didn't even want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    Your space is shit, Goons didn't even want it.
    I second this. Trit bars is about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    SC is made of Alliances that don't wish to be blue to everything in the South but maintain diplomatic ties to each other because of the North. The SC doesn't work well together as a single entity, as seen and is more interested in combat than anything else.
    I am quoting this hilarious shit for prosperity.

    I will put it in a nutshell for you. SC is made up rejects, failures, bitter faggots and clueless morons. The SC invasion of the north is what you get when you stick all those elements together.

    Nobody gave a shit about the North other than IT. The fact you are in the SC, couldn't get more than a bus load together and claim this was all a grand crusader to vanquish the evil north is just fucking hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Conquistador View Post
    I am afraid that some people may actually believe this. Friend...the NC has existed for years. 20+ shitty alliances huddled up together like a bunch of fucking faggots because none are good enough to exist on their own. The SC.....has existed for like 2 months and only because NC is seriously ruining eve. The "SC" is really just 4-5 independent alliances who honestly believe that you northern guys are pantie wearing space pussies. Seriously who huddles up like a bunch of faggots in a computer game so they wont get killed? Fucking lame.

    As for the ex-goon faggots statement above - a weak example of shitty propoganda to further your own internet space interests. If you can convince the world that it is the infamous SC that is huddled up like faggots to protect themselves from being killed then it will benefit a new rise to power for faggots on your side. Yeah...good luck with that. Everyone with a reasonable IQ level knows the NC is a pack of faggot zebras just trying to stay within the herd.
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    ok, this is retarded. both coalitions exist because of each other. They are also both shit, its just the NC are less faggoty about it. People generally like to blob, and by that i mean they don't like to loose

    as General 'sun tzu' Custard once said, "Greed > fun, you're blobbing all faggots"
    that said, no coalition is going to break up in a big way, unless something Haargoth-like occurs.

    and yeah, Angels are shit.

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    News just in:


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    the better question is, which are less shit: -A-, or Angels?

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    Well hypothetically, if IT went home, and Razor/MM and their respective allies reset eachother, what would happen? You northerners know better than me, but I'm willing to bet it'd result in smaller/more numerous coalitions on both sides. Having been in Majesta for about 2 months(lol yeah yeah not much time), there are plenty willing and even eager to reset, were it not for the fear of IT. But now that IT/the SC have been shown to be completely incapable of taking the north, and not likely to try again in the future, maybe resets are possible?

    I was also in the south for a few months, and there too was a sentiment of willingness to reset neighbors. I think if the NC breaks precedent by an internal reset, the south will follow. However, if the south resets eachother first, I doubt the north will follow suit, simply because the north has a much longer history together and is traditionally a more defensive pact and also because they've been together before even the SC existed(although the GBC did exist.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    I am quoting this hilarious shit for prosperity.

    I will put it in a nutshell for you. SC is made up rejects, failures, bitter faggots and clueless morons. The SC invasion of the north is what you get when you stick all those elements together.

    Nobody gave a shit about the North other than IT. The fact you are in the SC, couldn't get more than a bus load together and claim this was all a grand crusader to vanquish the evil north is just fucking hilarious.
    By trying to insinuate that the NC is any better is laughable. Both coalitions are fraught with bears and no side will ever take the other out. Everything you are saying in this any just about any post you made, to the benefit of the NC, would be completely reversed if the NC attacked the South. If you can't see that then you are not a intellectual as you like to think or portray yourself as in your postings.

    PS. Stop angry posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    I will put it in a nutshell for you. SC is made up rejects, failures, bitter faggots and clueless morons. The SC invasion of the north is what you get when you stick all those elements together.
    This is another version of your "Everybody who hates NC is someone getting pwned by them in the past/We are better than you"-meme right?

    It's starting to get a bit old tbh.
    I mean i could go on blurfing about that the NC was originally formed because they were all just a bunch of losers and morons afraid of getting steamrolled by BoB. But that would make me look like a drooling retard like you.

    Futhermore

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    NC resets each other, SC and everyone else piles up and starts killing MM/RZR, NC reforms sc dies etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    NC resets each other, SC and everyone else piles up and starts killing MM/RZR, NC reforms sc dies etc
    That is for sure not the sentiment I got...Atlas didn't even necessarily want to be up north very much. Without attacking anyone, I do wonder if the NC holds the idea of a vengeful and aggressive SC close to their mutual chest in order to "justify" the continual existence of the coalition, and that some have been in it so long they do not know what it is like to not be in a massive power bloc. I don't want to sound like some sort of internet psychologist, but perhaps the uncertainty of not having large and protective neighbors keeps the NC from resetting. I doubt Molle would have invaded if the NC didn't exist, as his stated goal was to kill the NC, right?

    Edit: Make no mistake I think molle and his sycophants are just as stupid in their own way.
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    Actually the NC was in the process of dying before IT/AAA/ATLAS declared THE GRAND CRUSADE TO DESTROY BLOBS ONCE AND FOR ALL. Even though I like TCF/RZR/MM for all the help they've given us over the years I wouldn't mind a shake up in the North, mostly because the war to retake the North would have been really fun and LODRA might have gotten a few constellations in Branch out of it

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    selfish bastard :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post
    It was formed cause the north was full of incompetent retards (I was one of them).


    Also please invade atlas space.
    I'm confused. Is the usage of past tense in reference to you being in the north, an incompetent retard, or both?

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    if you login make sure you fly asap to a tower in system

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    Mac client is loads smoother. Thank you ! Thank you CCP!

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    Whole lot of people passively-aggressively asking other people to dissolve their powerblocs in this thread.

    Eve is now what CCP has made it. And people crying about Dominion making it too hard to take others' space have to accept that the only way to make people less likely to huddle up is to make it even harder, not easier, to lose defended space. If people think "if I don't join a huge powerbloc I will lose everything" then their next action is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    Your space is probably the worst in the entire game.

    Also, Angels.
    No way bro -A- has the worst space in the game. That is the reason why no one has invaded us. lol worthless space lol

    Get your fucking cumslurp propoganda right or quit posting on public forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Conquistador View Post
    No way bro -A- has the worst space in the game. That is the reason why no one has invaded us. lol worthless space lol

    Get your fucking cumslurp propoganda right or quit posting on public forums.
    Catch has HED, which is a pretty awesome advantage. Being close to the richest region in the game for individual income, Stain, is great for your membership. The moon nerf fucked the South pretty hard, and sov costs don't help.

    You're either a really shitty troll or a super bitter faggot, either way stop posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Conquistador View Post
    Get your fucking cumslurp propoganda right or quit posting on public forums.
    This guy is great, he is a sperging retard, believe -A-'s ~elitepvp~ propaganda and can't even see the own irony in his posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrador View Post
    I'm confused. Is the usage of past tense in reference to you being in the north, an incompetent retard, or both?
    The syntax clearly designates him as one of the 'incompetent retards.' However, in this context all of the incompetent retards mentioned were, at that point of time, members of the north.

    So both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Securitas View Post
    That is for sure not the sentiment I got...Atlas didn't even necessarily want to be up north very much. Without attacking anyone, I do wonder if the NC holds the idea of a vengeful and aggressive SC close to their mutual chest in order to "justify" the continual existence of the coalition, and that some have been in it so long they do not know what it is like to not be in a massive power bloc. I don't want to sound like some sort of internet psychologist, but perhaps the uncertainty of not having large and protective neighbors keeps the NC from resetting. I doubt Molle would have invaded if the NC didn't exist, as his stated goal was to kill the NC, right?

    Edit: Make no mistake I think molle and his sycophants are just as stupid in their own way.
    I would challenge this with, When you invade someone, even if it alliance versus alliance, who doesn't bring powerbloc friends or at least has their power bloc friends on standby should someone bring their power bloc friends?

    People say that pod pilots should practice E-Honor. What use is it? Everyone has friends, someone starts losing they call their friends.

    This happens in any MMO, and the arguments are always the same. People talk about pilot skill like it is more meaningful than political skill. Politics in EVE, the efficiency of getting and keeping friends so you can out-blob your enemies. If people are so gung-ho about fair fights why ever join a corp, alliance, or coalition? Why don't you just fly by yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    By trying to insinuate that the NC is any better is laughable. Both coalitions are fraught with bears and no side will ever take the other out. Everything you are saying in this any just about any post you made, to the benefit of the NC, would be completely reversed if the NC attacked the South. If you can't see that then you are not a intellectual as you like to think or portray yourself as in your postings.

    PS. Stop angry posting.
    I am not saying we are better, we are just average players. What I am saying is the "SC" is fucking terrible. Terrible as an organisation, not as alliances individually. What makes you terrible as a coalition are the facts outlined previously. There are no redeeming qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sircussalot View Post
    Actually the NC was in the process of dying before IT/AAA/ATLAS declared THE GRAND CRUSADE TO DESTROY BLOBS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
    No it wasn't.

    Just business as usual. Dozens of alliances piled into joint fleets and joint coms to shoot whoever was on the borders. Slow placement of more blues in layers expanding outwards.

    I think of the old 'Paint the World' commercials with a giant bucket of paint pouring on the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dil View Post
    It seems to follow the same process over and over.

    Some Alliance vs Alliance gang bang going down, lag happens people complain.

    While the Alliances are still fighting usually the larger ones, CCP then request for people to jump on SiSi for some stress testing.

    No one turns up because everyone is fighting both each other ingame and the lag itself.

    CCP gets only a small number of volunteers and then the process starts all over again.
    Sort of but it's more complicated. When they actually seem like they're on to something "Hey guys we think we've found an issue with the intra-packet node transfer scheduler thingy triggering out of order IO resets and we want to test a possible fix" they get the numbers. Last thursday for example Sisi was capped at ~750 and was full, X and W fleets were both maxed out and there was a pile of extra people following out of fleet.

    When it seems like they're just doing a weekly measurment of client side FPS (based on a handful of totally unrepresentative forum posts afterwards ) a lot less people care.


    They also really screwed up with the first couple of post-Dominion masstests. A lot of people turned up to them, and Tanis was the only visible dev there at all. No GMs, pretty much no BH either. (And that was when they were scheduling tests *in* office hours). The whole thing seemed really slow and unorganised. Patch neccesary for the test released just an hour before etc... So a lot of people obviously got the impression CCP weren't serious about the tests and it was a waste of time. Things are loads better now, there's always tons of devs there and they seem to run 5 accounts each. It's (relatively) well organised, and done at more convenient times.


    Still most people turning up to the tests are actually not 0.0 players

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