So you're the main FC now?Originally Posted by Viper ShizzIe
So you're the main FC now?
Any tower placed won't take effect on Sov before patch day anyway, so why waste resources? Staging tower and killing all IT towers is the only thing that will have any effect.
I only FC glory ops where I can take credit for other people's strategic planning and coordination since I never log in to do it myself
That's what I said.
Yeah you seem a bit special. If you would actually read what i and others have said it is that we moved back north because the south is a boring shithole, we brought a few friends this time to attempt to even out the numbers, we fully expect to be blobbed to kingdom come and its all fine.You hit the nail on the head....TRI does make the NC Megablob. If one alliance is more hated than GBC its TRI. I do believe that the NC would pull another 1k man camp in H-PA just to make you spin ships.
If it was any other alliance, you'd see small fleets chasing you down and shooting you. Only TRI brings out the mega blob from the NC.
But, back to the statement at hand; Yes, TRI does bring out the mega NC blob. Again, why did you go North? After Bobby gave you space? Oh and another thing I hate, alliances like TRI saying "we've been blobbed," If you don't want to get blobed stay the fuck out of that space. Duh.
There is no whining about blobs at all.
Bring another 1k people to h-pa and attleast my corp will do what we did last time, jumpclone out and go roam somewhere else while you camp a station full of afk people.
I disagreed with Yorda that we provoke a quick and swift blob but hey that happens from time to time.
12:46:49 Notify The station EH Beer shack has been captured by Black Nova Corp corporation!
woehoe now i can get my stuff out of that station from the wr3ck days
ow yeah and wts 2x PL Moros in mn5 :wargod: specials
We were aware that the NC would try to hit us again once we made any significant move against them with their numbers.
However, as parts of Rzr and MM being deployed in Delve (not nearly as many as I thought btw) to help goons would save us from facing up to their full fleets but I was wrong .. Seems they did a CTA and got everyone JC'd back to save MH's R64's.
This wasn't surprising really, I think most of us thought it'd take 1 or 2 more moons before they bothered to sos MH though, but apparently not, instead TCF, MM, and RZR + minor NC friends and pets showed up (MH being one of them) and we were expecting them to bring alot of caps yet again, like they did in d-8 (about 130 caps) which was the reason we used sniper BS again.
Instead they kinda surprised us and went with subcaps, so the fight turned into a "Warp in, shoot, align, warp out" fight, but the NC probers did a great job of getting on top of us, but as we were aligned, most of us managed to get away to safe's, get new warp-in's and then come back on the field.
As far as TNT goes, I saw one of he Razor guys saying in local that "TNT, you've now been reset for being seriously fucking useless to us", whether or not that's true I don't know.
As far as numbers goes .. it's really hard to tell, I know we had NC outnumbered initially, they had a MH guy that was already inside the system offline the cynojammer, and bridged in via titans.
And initially it was pretty even numerically anyway, but then about an hour into it, they had more reinforcements arriving, managing to get in through the gate as our gatecamp then had splitted up, local peak was about 730 people.
You are more confident than I am that the patch will happen on the appointed day.
I´ll take themwoehoe now i can get my stuff out of that station from the wr3ck days
ow yeah and wts 2x PL Moros in mn5 :wargod: specials
That was me, yes its true.
They should have never been set blue by RAZOR, some incompetent shithead director did it without telling anyone.
They won't be blue to us ever again.
Who are these TNT people anyway, renters of someone? know they were blue with goons in wicked creek tryint to take over the station close to the ZLO dyspro moon
TNT was an offshoot alliance lead by Alcatraz, formerly of The Intersellar Foundry alliance. When BYRN flipped, TNTs call to arms was to stay loyal to TCF and grief BYRN. Too Ducky, a former BYRN FC that left because he felt frozen out went to TNT to lead their fleets against BYRN.
In the end they didnt do much more than spam some towers and kill a few ships but did not play a major role in things overall, other than to be a thorn in the backside of a dying alliance.
In all fairness he said "some parts" stolen from atlas which is true. He didn't actually say it was completely constructed from parts stolen from Atlas.
Also Tech is only rising out of speculation right now.
Elrac is understating things a little, although he is quite correct about TNT's origins and motivations.
BYRN was incapable of dealing with TNT assets alone at the time and in reality I'd say were more of a large splinter in BYRN's backside rather than a thorn.
Atlas had to come and dig that splinter out for you, so while i think saying they didn't play a major role is fair, they certainly did steer BYRN to ruin even if only by proxy; and its not like they didn't make life for individuals in BYRN fairly miserable. If BYRN had needed to deal with them alone they would have turned into a chronic problem, even in the absence of all the PvP tourism going on.
On an aside, are TNT setting up shop in PB or just roaming there?
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And now for something completely different....
Technetium. I'm glad people approach EVE with the same optimism they might when buying lottery tickets or betting at the track.
Shout out to Akita T and the rest of that merry band of manipulators whom aren't quite so visible.
Not Dead, Just Sleeping
TCF set them blue and they live in their space.
However, TCF is famous for stacking renters in their space and requesting standings for them from the NC after the fact, so they did not receive standings from us.
As I said earlier, some RAZOR director who likes to dick everything I do up gave them blue standings without knowing the history behind them, so we fixed that during the fight after they started shooting RAZOR and ELYSIUM.
You could be right.. at that point I was out of the picture and out of the game for a few months, so I do not have a full view of the TNT impact at the very end. What I heard was second hand and likely had some spin. But.. TNT still was not what I would call a major threat-- they were in the right place at the right time to cause trouble for a dying alliance, but even BYRN before its fall was able to provide better support to allies than TNT ever will.
PL tower in PNBQ rapecaged and kited
i agree completely with this, but the fact is that unless i am completely missing some component of t2 production, some new moon mineral is going to be the limiting factor on production, and based on the historical price level of tech relative to other minerals, its probably the best bet, unless you believe in a fantasy land where somehow ccp accidentally manages to balance this out to a very accurate level.
why bother? with IT's momentum, i would be going for unicorn, or at least g95
6 days till patch day and a week of no sov contesting.
To be fair, IT took the station in PNQ in just over 4 days, so its doable
They wont get sov though, so it doesn't matter. IT will get sov in PNQ and be grandfathered into the new sov system.
of course this was years ago and probably not many of the original peeps are still there but back in the 2004/2005
era Alcatrazz was one of the English speaking RA corps. I can't remember if they were actually in the IGA or not, but
they flew on RA's side at the time.
Yes but killing, say, PL sov, would mean IT wouldnt have to break sov following the 7 day rest, they could just go for it themselves (whoever controlled system for 24hrs wins)
I can confirmed TNT was reset by some of the NC, hopefully not all of them in a frakked up way at this moment. During the yesterday's Joint NC op, TNT along with DEFY and others led by our FC were sitting at the G8 gate at a moments notice to jump into the fight. Now we had set blues with everyone in the tribute list including razor, so there's no way we could shot at any razor ships. Now the problem was we did not have Elysium set blue and did not know they had set us blue earlier, following a previous incident. It didn't become apparent until one of the members in fleet noticed that Elysium was fighting in the joint ops and we tried to fix standings immediately. However the damage was done as we killed a couple of ships that belonged to Elysium. After the battle, we get reset blah blah, you know this part.
Here's how this part gets worse for us where i
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Our FC went ballistic and was disgusted we were reset by Morsus Mihi. See our FC is nothing but a PVPer; a damn good one but like the analogy "Generals don't make good Politicians." Anyhow someone brought up that we can reimbursed Elysium ships and this was a big misunderstanding and can be resolved. The FC would have none of it, saying we would not reimbursed those ships and we would unconditionally reset the NC alliances (razor/MM and others) without proper diplos. "If its neut, i will shoot it don't care blah blah" something like that in a rage fit manner on TS, also badmouthing the NC at some point... Since he was the only person active from TNT that has access to the NC command channel he essentially decided he was the rule of law. Anyhow after a discussion its somehow Razor's fault(It was definitely 100 percent TNT faults in some viewpoints of the members), any counterpoint or dissent was apparently quelled by louder voices. All of this is giving mebut at least i'll have 200 words or less as an entry to win that 15month plex
IT hit parts of the SoT jumb bridge network. we got to float in space blowing up incapacitated jump bridges.
there's still time to spin this as "SoT blows up blue jump bridge before it defects to IT" i guess.
I always enjoyed shooting elysium too. They are literally the worst. If you stay reset with the NC, you'll be in good company.
QFT
Though I'm a bit surprised that Elysium are the new "learning" alliance or whatever the NC calls it, surely there must've been better candidates?
When I was in CO2 after the reset, it was almost shocking to see how terrible ElysiumDOT truly were.
I have fought some bad alliances, but they are contenders for the worst.
Srsly Phreeze, why did you pick them?
imo, RAGE seems to be doing better than Elysium for the nc newcomers draft.
But i don't have much of an fact to base on.
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The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
All they do is run around in bombers, usually mixed with falcons and rapier's, in fairness while it's an effective tactic for KB statspadding, it's not really inviting much of a fight, but they are getting kills for sure =)
One of their first "Test" to see if they could hold their own was to sit in our home in Venal (h-pa) which is probably why the started using cloaky's .. usually they'd just pop whatever lit a cyno unguarded, whicht meant we lost some force recons .. but no big deal =)
Can I haz Google wave invites? =P
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Bah, that was just a weekly op in venal with cloakies, nothing more, nothing less.
RAGE is doing well, for a new alliance I'm pretty satisfied.
There was a pretty nice fight with capitals included in Stain 1 hour ago.
C0ven had a small pos coming out of rf in W-Q pocket, shot by Brick Squad. We formed up at 21:30 ET with BS RR + logistics and waited at the titan in jump range. Actually we had some time before the pos comes out, so we decided to bait some Bricks in A4. We jumped in 1 carrier at the gate. Last few days Bricks were hotdroping small gangs with capitals so we hoped, it will happen again. The result was pretty amazing. 10 brick squad carriers jumped in + about 25 support/bses. We bridged about 40 BS RR + some additional support, bubbled the carriers and killed off their support. When the support died, we jumped some additional dreads to finish the remaining carriers. It took some time tho, due to pretty nice spidertank. In the middle of the fight about 30 LR/Klingons joined in the slugfest.
Result:
9 carriers killed + about 25 bs/support ships.
1 carrier lost + 7 bses + about 10 support ships.
http://br1ck.podzone.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=123610
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The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Elysium. is a project of a RAZOR director to create a friendly alliance from scratch.
They were organized by said director and are controlled through an executor holding corp of RAZOR alts. Since their inception, they've established their own leadership and style, but are heavily moderated and controlled by RAZOR. No serious decisions are made without being run through RAZOR control.
Why are they awful at the moment? I don't know, I honestly don't keep up with them and didn't realize they were doing so bad. I just troll their forums (which are also hosted and controlled by RAZOR).
One explanation may be that they recently absorbed an entire corporation of about 600 people that have never played eve, and who are a guild from some shitty MMO that shut down.
The thought from the RAZOR guy running this project is that while those players will certainly be terrible from the onset, if they are managed correctly they would lend significant numbers once they mature.
Anyways, hopefully that helped. Make your own opinions from that, and just blame me for when I get RAZOR killed, not when pets get themselves killed.
K, starting the update on google wave.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Okay I swear to god there was a SHC post about a small brick squad / c0ven cap fight but now I can't find it.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Its like 4 posts above yours. You call this a competative posting environment?
SHC is killing my brain
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Just want to start off by saying that Google Wave made this more entertaining than usual. There were 3 of us going over most of this, one person even wrote one of the sections, and it made it all in all more interesting even if it took longer.
The PL/IT War:
Sov has dropped for EH in PNQY, and the station ping pong has started. I believe IT get sov at DT and if not will get it at tomorrow's DT. PL also lost their staging pos in a single stront timer.
Not too surprising considering the system was held by a pet who was largely incapable of timing poses or fitting them right.
Source: This thread
SoT inter-alliance drama
SoT killed their own titan, Hurley, as he was moving ships about. After joining the alliance and going mainly inactive right off the bat, he himself admits to only using the titan two or three times since joining SoT, he came back and was noticed moving ships around. Since Hurley had gone inactive, a number of his fellow corp mates that joined with him had left SoT to join IT and their fellow GBC friends. His moving of ships out of SoT controlled space, that was spotted by a well trusted director, raised alarms within SoT that he was also leaving. This coupled with a post on the IT boards mentioning him joining IT seemed to of led his CEO to declare him KoS.
SoT killed a titan that never logs in and looked like he was going to leave the alliance. On top of this he was an ex-GBC terrible titan pilot. No one cares apart from non-western bloc people poorly trolling the topic.
Source: This forum
Fountain
IT hit parts of the SoT jumb bridge network apparently to just slow down logistics. Since SoT apparently didn't see this unexpected turn of events coming, the tower was poorly fit. The poses were successfully repped afterwords. New ones are apparently going to be Caldari jamstars in order to make the game horrible for everyone involved.
lol
Source: This thread / Convos
Period Basis
The South-Eastern bloc has pulled out of TPAR after killing the GS titan. They had very few towers left anyway and it was obviously over.
I guess this is a victory? They killed a titan/distracted GS woo mission accomplished. I'm not quite sure what they were distracting GS from because IT's invasion of PNQY happened after TPAR sov was firmly in the hands of GS (although the final fight where the titan died happened at the same time). If GS wanted to leave they could of easily gone and helped PL during the critical few days IT had to get sov before Dominion. I suppose it would of been an okay base for a Dominion assault on GS, but with the current Dominion Sov mechanics there's a very small chance of them being able to do anything to GS sov.
Source: This thread
Stain
Brick squad formed up to try and kill a c0ven pos that they had reinforced. They however got baited into dropping 10 carriers and a few RRBSes onto a gate, upon which c0ven counter dropped ~50 RRBSes, and then 4 dreads, and a some carriers of their own. LR/Klingons joined towards the end to finish off the relatively strong spider tank.
Shouldn't be predictable Brick, especially when it's pretty easy to counter carriers (dreads).
Source: This thread
The Round up
THE KLINGONS have had (another) major drop in members as 3 corps totaling 122 members have left. They were once above 600 members, but are now down to ~250.
Green alliance has recruited another corp, Dragon's rage (another candidate for "worst corp name ever"). They have gone from sub 600 members to ~750 in the past week.
Technetium is continuing to rise in price based on speculation that it will be the next bottle neck in t2 production instead of dypsro/prom. The NC, where almost all of these moons are located, is overjoyed.
CCP came out with a pretty, yet inaccurate, video for dominion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEH...=youtube_gdata)
You should get someone with a different perspective to help so you dont miss things like PL trying to drop a tower in PNQY and losing it pretty much straight away, or you might speculate that actually, the SYS-K invasion of TPAR had absolutely no connection to IT in fountain.
I would offer to help, but I find you more obnoxious than Kanye West on speed and the idea of spending time collaborating you appeals to me slightly less than being gangraped by a hoard of baboons.
& GHSC is about to disband all of eve apparently.
You are more than welcome to come on google wave and post away, however a reminder that the second, indented paragraph is my personal opinion and should no way be regarded as facts. I have no idea what the south eastern bloc wanted to accomplish and therefor cannot judge if they won/lost.
PL pets losing the station goes pretty hand in hand with PL losing poses but I'll edit it in if you want.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
About this there's a good post on SHC:Technetium is continuing to rise in price based on speculation that it will be the next bottle neck in t2 production instead of dypsro/prom. The NC, where almost all of these moons are located, is overjoyed.
About there being tons of technetium moons: It's possible, noone should discount that Tech might not be the bottleneck it looks like it is.
Remember these data only include publicly accessible moon lists like dotlan.
On the other hand, let's be clear, there are sufficient 'failsafe' conditions to the reasoning that Tech will be huge, and I'll try to explain them here:
The publicly known number of Tech moons is 230, and even if only half of them are reported, even if there's over 500 moons, it's still the bottleneck. Now, if there are more than 650 moons or so the bottleneck shifts to Neodymium.
Geminate is a region that only has 6% of the moons on dotalan, but of those that are known about 1/3 are Tech. Now, with a total of I think about 700 moons as many as 200 could theoretically/statistically be Technetium, and the same goes for Fade.
Pure-blind Venal Deklein and Vale of the Silent however all have 75-100% maps and only venal has 74 Tech moons, with the others having between 25-35 each. In fact... there are NO regions with more than 80 of any one kind of R32, which Tech is.
This indicates to me that the four 'low report %' regions with Tech - Fade, Geminate, Great wildlands, Tenal - can at an absolute maximum have another 320 Tech moons, which is just about enough to equalise it with Neodymium.
Anyone with access to more detailed moon-mapping projects of these regions please help us with this if it's not too super sikrit.
Now, lets say for the sake of argument there are another 400 tech moons somehow. Ok, looks like it's not a bottleneck right? Well yes and no... because that means that you can't even allow one region to lose its tech production, i.e. there mustn't be anyone controlling any of those regions putting an embargo on its export, there mustn't be any major wars making logistics too difficult, and this is all assuming that 100% of the moons were in use at all times to start with, as if they were prom/dyspro.
Ahh, yes, the VENOM ideal. Good luck with that...Elysium. is a project of a RAZOR director to create a friendly alliance from scratch.
They were organized by said director and are controlled through an executor holding corp of RAZOR alts. Since their inception, they've established their own leadership and style, but are heavily moderated and controlled by RAZOR. No serious decisions are made without being run through RAZOR control.
Why are they awful at the moment? I don't know, I honestly don't keep up with them and didn't realize they were doing so bad. I just troll their forums (which are also hosted and controlled by RAZOR).
One explanation may be that they recently absorbed an entire corporation of about 600 people that have never played eve, and who are a guild from some shitty MMO that shut down.
The thought from the RAZOR guy running this project is that while those players will certainly be terrible from the onset, if they are managed correctly they would lend significant numbers once they mature.
Anyways, hopefully that helped. Make your own opinions from that, and just blame me for when I get RAZOR killed, not when pets get themselves killed.
Badges of Honor: Three probations, one reversed.
Well, at least PL wouldn't be stupid enough to have someone with GH-SC connections as a director in their executor corp.
Are the pics as described? I don't have an active account
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard...readID=1221123
Finally, wanted already ask people i know in Elysium, wtf is the 640 men corp, i´ve never heard off, never saw on kb and has no history. And Nail guys are trying, so be nice to them Phreeze, rest of the group is really shitty though, like this 640 men juggernaught.Elysium. is a project of a RAZOR director to create a friendly alliance from scratch.
They were organized by said director and are controlled through an executor holding corp of RAZOR alts. Since their inception, they've established their own leadership and style, but are heavily moderated and controlled by RAZOR. No serious decisions are made without being run through RAZOR control.
Why are they awful at the moment? I don't know, I honestly don't keep up with them and didn't realize they were doing so bad. I just troll their forums (which are also hosted and controlled by RAZOR).
One explanation may be that they recently absorbed an entire corporation of about 600 people that have never played eve, and who are a guild from some shitty MMO that shut down.
The thought from the RAZOR guy running this project is that while those players will certainly be terrible from the onset, if they are managed correctly they would lend significant numbers once they mature.
Anyways, hopefully that helped. Make your own opinions from that, and just blame me for when I get RAZOR killed, not when pets get themselves killed.
Iam totally obsessed with the fact, that there is such big corp in 0.0 and i have no clue, who they are
What i am speaking about
- http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Local_Threat
- http://www.localthreat.org/killboard/
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