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    Quote Originally Posted by Grarr Dexx View Post
    On a completely unrelated sidenote:

    http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard...readID=1221040



    What is up with this?
    I liked your post in that thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellNo View Post
    I liked your post in that thread
    You guys are cute. So much love, so much rage. You should be together.

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    You could have just typed 'u mad?', you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grarr Dexx View Post
    You could have just typed 'u mad?', you know.


    Just looking out for your future happiness.

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    Well if you care enough about that you could stop posting so I'll get bored and go to bed

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    Guiding Hand activated their agent in PL who stole an anshar and some core probe launchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    Alienated? I would call the NC/PL relationship amicable. We usually have a lot of fun when we fight against eachother and when we do we are very motivated to perform well against what I would call one of the best man-for-man alliances.

    People see the huge casualties inflicted in some battles and think it is hate, it is far from it. There is the competitive element but not really any emotional element, well, not for us. If IT came in with 3:1 odds against PL them I would come over in a hearbeat if they wanted any help to even the numbers up a bit, irrespective the number of times they have blown me up. Shit, we might just rock up uninvited and shoot at shit irrespective.

    When we were holed up in Tribute and the 1000+ GBC and other GBC fanboi vultures were circling we remember who came over and helped and who didn't. Those little meaningless skirmishes over insignificant moons during the downtime between campaigns means absolutely nothing.
    This is what I want to hear but then I see posts where the NC people say fuck PL.

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    I honestly believe this invasion will end the same as all the other Fountain invasions. I may be biased, but from my end it already looks to be following the same predictable pattern. I'm amazed that alliances always seem to do the same exact thing when invading Fountain. And the strangest part is they don't even realize they are doing it.

    I fully except I could be wrong. But it's my 2 cents.

    Edit: I mean when has PL ever cared about defending a renter's outpost? It's the same every time. A few token fleets. The station changes hands. Pl takes it back later and sells it again.

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    Its not that you're biased Lysadner, its that you are dumber than a bag of smashed arseholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellNo View Post
    Its not that you're biased Lysadner, its that you are dumber than a bag of smashed arseholes.
    Ahahahah, sig quote #2.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellNo View Post
    Its not that you're biased Lysadner, its that you are dumber than a bag of smashed arseholes.
    lols

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    Crushed by the internet. Too bad I take it so seriously. Anyway off to commit suicide.

    Back in reality. That's gonna be pretty choice quote when IT has gone the way of Requiem.

    Edit: actually now that I look closer, it's already pretty choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    Crushed by the internet. Too bad I take it so seriously. Anyway off to commit suicide.

    Back in reality. That's gonna be pretty choice quote when IT has gone the way of Requiem.

    Edit: actually now that I look closer, it's already pretty choice.
    u mad?

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    I think Carebear would cry if he knew this is what Kugutsumen trolling had been reduced to.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    PL is still losing, retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    PL is still losing, retard.
    got them right where they want them :EVEdevilFace:

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    I don't know how we'll survive without those 17 very worthwhile r64s or the pet station in Fountain.

    Time for me to disband the alliance I guess

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    You hear that, IT, you aren't killing them fast enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    You hear that, IT, you aren't killing them fast enough?
    Wrong meme. This is the "didn't want the region anyway".
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    Wrong meme. This is the "didn't want the region anyway".
    Which is how this will go if it swings the other way and PL goes nomad again.

    As to my thoughts on Fountain, they're just that. I was in Fountain through several invasions including the GBC invasion (which wasn't really an invasion) and Requiem. I don't live there now, nor am I in SOT or PL, so I'm not claiming to be the authority on the subject.

    As to the the "u mad" stuff I return your attention to the concept of "deflection" that someone brought up in the SOT directors thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    Alienated? I would call the NC/PL relationship amicable. We usually have a lot of fun when we fight against eachother and when we do we are very motivated to perform well against what I would call one of the best man-for-man alliances.

    People see the huge casualties inflicted in some battles and think it is hate, it is far from it. There is the competitive element but not really any emotional element, well, not for us. If IT came in with 3:1 odds against PL them I would come over in a hearbeat if they wanted any help to even the numbers up a bit, irrespective the number of times they have blown me up. Shit, we might just rock up uninvited and shoot at shit irrespective.

    When we were holed up in Tribute and the 1000+ GBC and other GBC fanboi vultures were circling we remember who came over and helped and who didn't. Those little meaningless skirmishes over insignificant moons during the downtime between campaigns means absolutely nothing.

    Sounds a lot like Proviblob vs. AAA relationship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    I would call the NC/PL relationship amicable.
    You're wrong

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    You mean the NC weren't happy about losing all those caps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    You mean the NC weren't happy about losing all those caps?
    Cap loss outside of sustained campaigns are meaningless. We still have reserves well above what we actually use. The only loss that means anything is during a campaign, your ship loss comparative to your ability to replace the losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper ShizzIe View Post
    You're wrong
    Am I? We shall see. Actions always speak louder than words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeydan View Post
    Am I? We shall see. Actions always speak louder than words.
    Parts of the NC leadership were quite bitter as far as my understanding goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    Parts of the NC leadership were quite bitter as far as my understanding goes.
    Those are probably the same aces who lost cap fleets left and right due to their own incompetence.

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    If the number of aces that lost cap fleets right and left due to their own incompetence is larger than the number of people that wanna open up to the PL-Goon style of playing...then you have a problem, Phreeze.

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    The only correlation between the two would be that people who are terrible at leading internet spaceship fleets are generally terrible at internet spaceship politics, and as such don't realize the assholes you know are better than the ones led by Molle.

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    PL and SOT have only defended fountain once. And that was due to the goons helping.
    I know PL/SOT's master plan is too sit and wait for Goons to help them after dominion, but come on show some honor! you cant call yourself a real pvp alliance if you sit around waiting for aid like a puppy with a broken paw.
    And if PL/SOT loose fountain then meh. 0.0 space is a privelege not a right, only those that deserve it remain in it.

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    Sterling, please stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    PL and SOT have only defended fountain once. And that was due to the goons helping.
    I know PL/SOT's master plan is too sit and wait for Goons to help them after dominion, but come on show some honor! you cant call yourself a real pvp alliance if you sit around waiting for aid like a puppy with a broken paw.
    And if PL/SOT loose fountain then meh. 0.0 space is a privelege not a right, only those that deserve it remain in it.
    lurk more. this isn't caod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotor View Post
    Sterling, please stop.
    Nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. Seriously tho yes.

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    whoever was requesting SoT drama, here you go:

    I am sorry to have to post this, but i think something needs to be said now rather than later.

    I see a lot of the usual things happening with the Alliance that does not look good from my point of view on the whole since IT hit PNQY.

    Lack of leadership online, FC's etc, Constant bickering between different corps, different corps going off and doing their own things without involving anyone else.

    Taking too long to form fleets to counter hostiles, going out against vastly superior numbers when we dont have the right ship types, this costs ISK and some of us cant afford to constantly lose T2 fitted ships when doing this.

    Forming a fleet and then having it taken over by such and such a person for it to totally fail and have no direction when it was ok in the first place and when it does get called every ****ing name under the sun by said person.

    No one speaks to me like that in real life or i would put them on the floor end of story.

    I know i have only been back a short time, but something needs to be sorted out or Fountain is doomed in my books.

    We need communication, not Spam on alliance mail about going out in 1's and 2's to harrass the enemy.. you are never going to get an even fight that way.

    And the biggest issue that i have seen from day one and still today is too many carebears not joining the fleets and when they do they have hardly any PVP experience and it ends up in a cluster****.

    Sorry for saying this, but it is how i feel at this moment in time.

    If you dont like this post i am sorry.. i have been away 3 months from game for personal reasons, but i come back and make an effort and see nothing has changed in my books.

    Thats not to say i am leaving, i am not... i get on great with the guys who i fly with and know me since i joint DVRN.. we are always top of the KB stats, but the alliance needs to pull their ****ing fingers out.

    Di Schifo. Salute!

    PS. People should be forced to keep up with stuff on the forums, i bet hardly any of the Corp post on here or are even members.
    from a corp forum. the PS part is ironic since he's probably right in that corp people don't read it, plenty of ex-corpies still had accounts, including the one who c+ped it into caod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    PL and SOT have only defended fountain once. And that was due to the goons helping.
    I know PL/SOT's master plan is too sit and wait for Goons to help them after dominion, but come on show some honor! you cant call yourself a real pvp alliance if you sit around waiting for aid like a puppy with a broken paw.
    And if PL/SOT loose fountain then meh. 0.0 space is a privelege not a right, only those that deserve it remain in it.
    PL learned from there lowsec encounters and are going to do the same thing the NC did with MAX. Anything short of a fully committed GS (which would include GS blueing all their pets, which for whatever moronic reason people don't want to do) with good participation and they're not going to be able to consistently contend with IT with it's current participation levels.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    BoB was able to storm through like four regions in Max, if PL thinks their one region is equivalent then they are fucking retards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    BoB was able to storm through like four regions in Max, if PL thinks their one region is equivalent then they are fucking retards.
    Maybe so, but a lot of things have changed since the MAX campaign. Various game mechanics etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    PL learned from there lowsec encounters and are going to do the same thing the NC did with MAX. Anything short of a fully committed GS (which would include GS blueing all their pets, which for whatever moronic reason people don't want to do) with good participation and they're not going to be able to consistently contend with IT with it's current participation levels.
    How can they possibly do what the NC did with MAX?

    NC outblobbed BoB in MAX and won cap battles through force of numbers and by making BoB jump in to them (good tactics). PL so far are reacting to IT's moves, not dictating the pace in any way.

    As a reminder, PL are yet to kill an IT POS, for something like 50 lost on the PL+pets side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellNo View Post
    How can they possibly do what the NC did with MAX?

    NC outblobbed BoB in MAX and won cap battles through force of numbers and by making BoB jump in to them (good tactics). PL so far are reacting to IT's moves, not dictating the pace in any way.

    As a reminder, PL are yet to kill an IT POS, for something like 50 lost on the PL+pets side.


    In other news theres some WONDERFUL goonpron on the IT forums. Seems like Goons don't actually like or respect PL very much at all. Couple of quotes from the anti-PL thread on gf.com:




    and my favourite:
    goons bitching and moaning.. my oh my this is shocking..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellNo
    How can they possibly do what the NC did with MAX?

    NC outblobbed BoB in MAX and won cap battles through force of numbers and by making BoB jump in to them (good tactics). PL so far are reacting to IT's moves, not dictating the pace in any way.

    As a reminder, PL are yet to kill an IT POS, for something like 50 lost on the PL+pets side.
    -

    In other news theres some WONDERFUL goonpron on the IT forums. Seems like Goons don't actually like or respect PL very much at all. Couple of quotes from the anti-PL thread on gf.com:

    didn't pl used to be good at this game at one point
    Is PL going to:

    a) show up
    b) have a staging tower for us to be at
    c) not be collosal faggots?
    and my favourite:

    Who were those one faggots we propped up even though they were a worthless bloated entity for like years
    oh wait like every ally we've ever had
    You should take notes.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    People trolling on Goonfleet.com a maybe a few angry ratters, its funny you think it is "porn".

    Edit: The angry ratters are funny though. v0v

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    Yea that's pretty much how 90% of goonfleet.com looks.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeze View Post
    Those are probably the same aces who lost cap fleets left and right due to their own incompetence.
    I dunno you seem pretty bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    Fountain is doomed
    selective quoting ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper ShizzIe View Post
    I dunno you seem pretty bitter.
    Are you trying to troll him into not helping you?

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    this has also turned into a terrible thread btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    this has also turned into a terrible thread btw
    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    Competitive posting environment

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    What the hell does "Competitive posting environment" even mean?
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

    If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    What the hell does "Competitive posting environment" even mean?
    It was IsWarpingOut's rather apt description of the Something Awful forums, and I fear where this forum is heading. I've noticed a huge spike in name-calling, trolling and other forms of internet tough-guy speak.

    This used to be a cool place where grunts like me could get some insights into the dark underbelly of eve politics without all the pollution. But lately its just turned into the standard hurf-blurf you can find all over the place.

    And in answer to the upcoming question: u mad?~

    No, but I'm not going to buy a subscription, either.

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    While I agree in the fact that this place is getting too "troll"ish, there is a good side to it too. Before the site in general was pretty one sided. While people tried to be non-bias in their views it would always show through. With increase popularity you get the views of many different people, not just from different sides of the Eve politics, but from different levels (alliance leaders and grunts). This obviously means that people will argue when their opinions are different, and will usually lead to some name calling/childish shit because at the end of the day it's opinions and neither side is going to win.

    While I would like us to keep the CAOD shit to a minimum, I'd rather have a more balanced discussion than a one sided one.
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