Considering your alliance in its benevolent wisdom decided to build a shit ton of supers whilst you were half way across the map. In which case you got rope a doped by PL into defending CSAA's and had more people in Delve then in the North. H-W the numbers IT committed compared to -A- and Atlas were a joke.
During MAX 1, BoB/GBC spent the first couple weeks attacking only highend moons and taking every single one that was attacked. The NC back then didn't want the moons anyway, just like they didn't care about Hydra and Pure, so they spent most of their time camping that one IRON constellation all around the clock with a couple hundred guys bragging about how the BoB/GBC fleet didn't dare to jump into their awesome camp. Late euro/us tz would then jump in pretty much every night and have some good fights until one day they accidently killed lord2evil's titan and the whole camp and constellation and alliance died shortly thereafter.
Max operated for what 4mo or so, far longer than PLs month anda half they've been in Venal. And the argument that they were taken back the second BoB left the North so they don't count could be made towards PL aswell, as the second PL leaves they'll lose all progress. I think the better argument is which entity NC had progress towards, which for Max ended in a 1p- constellation stalemate with no NC progress towards lost assets and for PL time will only tell. Tri were indirectly and occasionally directly working with BoB. NC had to make a choice on which area to defend as it they didn't have the numbers to fight in both places at once. Deklein was chosen to be defended and NC lost, while Pure/Hydra were left on their own and lost aswell. For historical correctness aswell, BoB/GBC never went back to Delve until the button was pushed. Max1 was immediately followed by a deployment to H-A in Curse to invade Goons, which resulted in Scalding/Wicked regions being conquered and parts of Ins and Detorid.
Manny, nice trolling faggot. I remember most of AAA carebearing the shit out of Catch during that campaign. Just remember that before you spout off at the mouth with dogshit coming out, there are people here that know the truth about AAA which makes you look even more retarded than you are in real life.
ahahahahaha, this exactly shows the extent of the mighty -A- alliance in the north. You are retarded as fuck. Since we deployed ON TIME in the north, we had max sub cap and capital fleets. After it proved stupid to use caps due to lag and random disconnects (hello 50+ capitals lost in first week) we stopped using them. After that we had 1 and a half full fleets all the time. When Int/Rol came, we had about 5-700 people depending on the day. Which of course was not enough as -A- and Atlas didn't do their jobs. All we saw from -A- in the entire Max 2 campaign was 1 fucking dominix fleet of 90 people that got welped heh~.....Atlas tried as well, but they didn't have anyone to actually lead them due to burnt out people, but hey they still had 250 people in fleets.....Towards the H-W campaign it could be seen that IT's numbers dropped from start, down to 220? maybe during prime, but hey that was understandable, the NC forces were concentrated in our Ints/Rol/It's area due to -A- being no where to seen and Atlas performing poorly due to reasons stated earlier. Then when H-W fiasco and Atlas withdrawing, our fleet's dropped down to 120-150? in euro tz.
So let's recap this: IT deployed on time, we had 300+ people all the time in fleets. Int came, they had 100+ in Fleets, Rol came, they had about same? not 100% positive. Atlas came they rolled with 200+ man fleets with their CoW/GC buddies and then we have -A-. We only seen -A- once with a dominix fleet that got welped, after that, there was no sign of -A- anywhere until H-W.
So no Manny Retard, the numbers -A- brought to the campaign were laughable.
Edit: Unless you mean to tell me that the mighty -A- alliance was tired from fighting the fearsome CVA
Yeah but you see they had to grind 50 providence stations with no opposition first, doing that was really important.
No worries friendo! Blame your Max2 campaign on -A-. It was all our fault. Whoops. In all fairness, we were pretty shit at that point. 3 years of changing your fucking diapers and re-securing space for you while you mass recruited from jita made us soft.
Molle please accept my deepest apologies. At least you have Malcanis and the mighty INIT forces to guard your rear and launch Max3. I am sure you will find success.
Permanently Hostile To You,
Space Conquistador
Sounds like jealousy to me.
I lol'd at the bold parts, maybe you should check your history a bit more before continuing. As for the "max2" blame. I don't know. I think -A-/Atlas/IT are equally to blame. The only issue I ever have with "Max 2" being spoken about is when retards like Manny blame "IT" for the failure. Hey if IT having maxed out fleets and then some more was not enough then ;welp;....compared to what -A- brought we were like fucking Golden. I mean ffs INT at that point in time had more people in fleet than what -A- brought and you could actually see them doing stuff, unlike -A- who was seen with a single dominix fleet that was welped, I mean please do point if I am bullshiting on this one, because that is the ONLY thing I saw you guys do. The only time IT actually had shitty participation in fleets WAS after the H-W incident. That is when half our alliance people were stuck in H-W pos' and we sent orders out to them to self destruct out and reship. After H-W incident, like I said, most we ever had in fleet during our prime was 120 maybe 150 sometimes but that's pushing it. But hey we were not the only ones like that except INT/ROL who kept going like it's nobody business, props to them.
As for INT being a lot better allies than -A- , fuck yeah they are. They pull shit ton more weight for their size then you guys ever did. I'd take INT to have my back any time of the day over -A-'s inconsistent relationship.
Hey bro, come get it, but hey I guess people think it'sand :worthless space: when they talk about IT, only to cover their back's once shit goes south, I mean it's all about the ~good fights~ right?
As for us having the worst sub-cap fleet? I lol @ you because you don't see how great the idea is, it just needs bit more tweaking, especially the composition %'s of different ship types. It's more suited for the "blobby" nature than a smaller force.
As for the dice CSAA being red pen? You must be joking. That was not a CTA, if it was, we would of moved the supers we had in Catch back to Delve, but we didn't.
Fuck Molle and Fuck IT.
Seriously tho AAA and friends took that position after Molle welped his entire dread fleet in Querious and then went on to disband Kenzoku and blame the whole thing on not enough support.
Problem was that at the time AAA was stuck with Molle as an ally simply because there werent that many around but the sentiment in AAA was that Molle was (is) a fucktard not to be trusted.
And its true that great many AAA pilots did not take part in MAX2 with out anything being said about it,
reason being AAA pilots not giving a shit and AAA leadership happy to see IT get a bloody nose slugging it out with NC.
Well If that's the way AAA feel then fair enough it makes perfect sense the way they behaved - the only thing I don't get is the "you betrayed us - we're really mad!!!" stuff now. If pilots decided not to participate in Max2 and that they didn't want us as allies AND then reset us then why the outrage now?
Good god! we whelped a fleet!!! - this is shocking - genuinely so. I can't uinderstand how this can possibly ever happen, an alliance whelped a fleet!?!? Quick to COAD - this is news-worthy!!
Mostly because IT did the brave thing and hopped on a bandwagon set to destroy AAA.
After IT came into the picture it was impossible for AAA to defend any of its space, it was difficult before with the shape the alliance was in but after IT came in it was impossible.
Also there is this BoB resentment with old school AAA guys that are still around and any reason to slag off DICE RKK and EVOL is welcomed.
This thread has hit a new all time low when it comes to shit posting, when the last 3 pages have been pointless arguing over the past Max campaigns.
I mean, at least we admit we're a bunch of terrible faggots.
Caeleste naves interretis gravissimas sunt
Your conclusion about -A- beeing mad for IT not helping us is a bit exaggerated tbh. What's your opinion based for? 5 posters on Kugu and you say that the WHOLE -A- is fucking mad about it?
I'm just smiling when i read that kind of statements. Same shit goes for every fucking thread here:
IT - fucktards whatever they do
AAA - shit whatever we do
NC - fucking carebears whatever they do
Drone Russians - bot heaven whatever they do
Goons - Goons whatever they do
Testies - Goons whatever they are for real
PL - elite forum jerkcircle sucking cocks of eachother all the time
So back to the subject, can we fucking end this faggotry about MAX1,MAX2,O-W,H-W, 49-U n shit? I'm bored whenever i enter this thread and want to post something constructive and then never hit reply.
TL;DR Fuck history and don't derail this fucking thread.
imb4umadand-A-isshit
Seriously, -A- people should shush about this "betrayal" bullshit. When you bail on an ally during a major campaign, then reset them, and then plan to invade their biggest remaining ally, it's not a "betrayal" when they decide to attack you.
Hey I'm not pissed in any way about what AAA have done ect - and ofc I don't think for a second that all of AAA is like a few kugu posters.
IT had to (at least try) and make sure AAA really died, because to have not supported you guys (remained neutral) if you bounced back would end up with the situation we have now (where you keep trying to kick us in the nuts). Bluntly we either should have supported you (but there was no way we were going to reset INIT) or made sure the job was done properly (which we failed abysmally to do) so the staggering corpse of AAA didn't rise from the grave to keep kicking us in the balls
This thread is an adequate representation of the true feelings behind most of Eve's ''blues''..
~~~~GIMMIE +REP+ GIMMIE~~~~
Sometimes your bored and you just drop your pohle in the toilet and see what comes out. Honestly I blame Phreeze for this I don't have a reason but pass the buck yo.
Then you wondered why IT decided to help INT instead of -A- when somebody came knocking on your doors. You can't shit on a ally publicly and privately then expect them to come at your beck and call once you are in trouble. But don't worry, it only took MAX 2 campaign for the IT membership to see how shit -A- is and unreliable as allies, something the leadership has known since we blued you.
So you can stop spewing your bullshit of "IT being your eternal Red for betraying you", there was no betrayal since you betrayed the relationship from the start.
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