So i am a bit worried about the tactics RAGOON used against LV in the final stages. This whole deal about them jumping in enormus amounts of peopel to crash the node and then deploying capitals and nuking the system.
The enemys we have been fighting so far have uses "convetional" methods do rage war against us and we against them. Support,bs and capital fleets being deployed even in great numbers. But still going into fleetfights when possible.
Now we see a new kind of warfare coming and thats pure numbers and crashing nodes and adding lag. With only one thing in mind to make the game unplayable for your opponent by taking the game to a level it wasent intended for (yet anyway).
Question 1: Do we have a good way to counter this? Major POS spammage? Capital traps?
Question 2: What did LV wrong in terms of tactics? Or was it all due to them having no will or manpower to fight this "blob"
Since LV are done and relocated we could be next in line or they can go for someone of our allied.
Whats your thoughts and ideas about this?
I have just recently returned, but I think you are taking this out proportion.
The event you are labelling as a common occurance is the day the LV titan in construction was destroyed. this involved massive numbers from each side which would not have been "summoned" for the average defense of a system.
If it is a regular occurance... All we can do is bubble gates and DD the fuck out of them.
and kill whatever caps they bring. They can't take our systems without capital ships. Let's see how many dreadkills it takes before they stop using them like D2/Northern monkeys.
Faith, we are BoB.
Ya Know, as ballsy as a manuever as it would be... We should spend the week getting all our station systems reinforced with a handful of more towers (I know, spam ftl) but after we do that, take the entire fleet up to D2 Space this weekend and give YW/COD a jump start. Maybe make sure their capial yards go away, or start knocking every tower in fade into reinforced, just cause general chaos everywhere.
Leaving our backdoor wide open MIGHT not be best idea, but I guarentee NO ONE would be expecting it... it'd give all the residents and people on our side a gigantic morale boost (like they need one, heh) and would be a massive middle finger to the northerners, as well as probably causing some serious internal chaos amongst D2 (omg we attacked them now they're coming to kill us for real). It wouldn't be a nail in the coffin of them, or anything like that... but it'd probably smack them to the point where they might not leave their home space for the remainder of the war.
I don't see any other time better tbh, we're going to have the Goons bearing down on us within the next few weeks, and we're gonig to have to start concentrating east very soon. If we're gonna do something totally unexpected and off the wall, this smells like the right time to do it.
I was really disappointed that the YW thing took so long to get started. When D2 were fighting in Fount it might have been possible for YW to gank their capital yards. Now they're all back home and it's been announced on the forum, there's no element of surprise (if there ever was with all the German buddyness).
The only way those capital yards will go down, unless D2 really sucks, is if someone (us!) helps.
Still ambiguous about doing it, since I'd rather get entrenched in the East, but yeah.
I have concerns about the goons and this tactic as well
the only think I can think of to stop them doing it is to stop them forming blobs if we sit on one side of a gate and let them get 1000 on the other side I would say were in trouble but if we engage them starting 10 systems before where ever there going and keep it a running fight where they cant form there mega blobs I think we will easily win putting titans in a system dding and then jumping back a system for next titan to dd etc so they cant form large blobs all in one spot if we keep harrassing them with support the whole time as well I think they cannot form that cohissive blob LVs mistake was to wait for them there is a picture of them on the other side of the lv gate getting ready to jump that is what we have to not let happen if lv had forces there disrupting them forming up it would not have happend
is just my thoughts on it
Keep in mind the circumstances of the last time they used this tactic on lv. If you recall, the database dec Valar crashed the node on purpose trying to fix it. LV had a beautiful camp set up. When Valar crashed the system, the system next door was not crashed, and it let the goons in thru the front door. As the lv guys came back to their camp, many of them got pulled into their own bubbles and raped before they loaded by the newly arrived goon fleet.
While I'm not saying it couldn't happen again, the circumstances were rather specific.
It was not only goons, CA, TCF, KOS jesus every fucking bandwagooner...so this situation happening again is unlikley. Do not worry to much about the Goons, just know what we can expect from them