Originally Posted by The Mittani
CCP Shuts Down Blood Raider 10/10s (BoB plexes) that were respawning every hour!
And the CCP fuckups continue... at least that's what I'm going to think. I would hate to think that CCP is stuid enough to do this intentionally.
can anyone link to the appropriate thread?
You mean BoD knew about serious bugs like this and didn't report them to CCP because they wanted to keep things fair? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you that BoD "honor" they reiterate time and time again just seemingly disappeared.
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Where does it say bob knew about them?
the complex's were broken for like three days.
they have been NOT WORKING (BROKE) for almost two months.
Have to admit, my respect for Dark Shalarli has definatly gone up a few notches for this.
The other thing was when FIX said straight out that the only reason they were fighting for BOB was that BOB never broke their deal. as long as BOB sticks to their work Fix would stick to theirs. Nice to see some honour left in the game.
So the plex did not work for two months and when it was fixed, it respawned every hour for three days?
Ok That clarifies it.
basically thats how it sounds.
i know for a fact they were broke (non-usable) a week and a half ago. i have been told it came in in the new patch.
apparently the maze ones in the north are dorked as well?
could be rumours - tbh the plex isnt used much and it wasnt introduced with Rev 1.4
there is a thread on d2 forums, so far nobody knows anything about that issue, maybe I can tell you more soon.
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At one time ALL the plexes were bugged to fuck and back.
RA and BOB have made trillions of ISK out of it (prob a few other major alliances as well), the big one in Cache was respawning every 45 mins and dropping top quality gear.
CCP should make all plexes random spawns done through exploration IMO. Stops the farmers and would help stop the exploiting as well. Once the plex has been ran it ends and goes and spawns randomly somewhere else, also only being adtive for a set period of time like some of the exploration ones
Fuck knows why this wasnt the way they were setup at the beginning. Yet another CCP fuckup
Also worth to mention that the blood 10/10 where the only ones that did not drop Overseer Effects.
thats one big fuckup of a bug :/
I wish CCP would've responded as fast to angel 8/10s being exploited by RA for months tho, same fuckup basically, amazing.
I guess kugu may have forced them to be more on their toes now than previously.
Well if they BAN because of this known exploit then you can kiss half of BOB and RA goodbye! including most of their senior leadership.
Cheating is Cheating no matter who does it.
if you cannot play fair within a game either by taking game mechanics to the limit, exploiting known bugs for personal gain, etc.. Then why bother playing the game at all???
Everyone seems to forget that RA had over 20 accounts (27 i believe) banned that were associated with farming complexes.
If these really were spawning every hour since Kali, where's the bans for BoB?
To right m8 , if you cheat you should be banned without doubt.
Knowingly taking advantage of a bugged plex should result in bans
Were they banned ? AFAIK they got a warning and that was it.
A Crying Shame isn't it?
RA gets ban's and BOB gets a warning for the same offense?
There should be 27 BOB accounts banned also ! AFAIAC
RA had about 27 accounts (methinks a few less) banned in an instant while those accounts were sitting in their dreadnaughts (a fair punishment IMO, bug abusing ain't nice!). There was a post about it on *drumroll* CAOD a long time ago...
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Did bob run the plex's? There was only a 3 day window where the plex's respawned every 1 hour. But yes, anyone who farmed plex's should be banned. If they did one run and leaft it - fair enough. But if they camped it like RA does - then Bang the fuckers
Exactly!
Anyone exploiting should be banned PERIOD! and Im sure BOD did as much camping as Ra they are both guilty AFAIAC.
There could be another reason behind this, and DS's "honesty" about it all.
/me dons tinfoil hat.
These complexes are rented out by BoB to farmers/macroers for fees far exceeding what I ever gained in game, while reserving the right to farm them themselves.
DS has just cut off a load of ISK from BoB. At best a near infinite supply of the best faction mods (which they fit to their combat vessels) and isk from the farmers who pay rent, at worst a couple of days worth at 11b ISK a day.
Ulterior motive? Maybe DS saw how LV went down and are worried that BoB might do the same thing to them. Maybe Fix have decided to take a different position in the war.
Of course it could well be honesty. I hope it is.
Hmm Perhaps what had happened is that Bob are not running those plex's and they are being run by RA - Hence why DS suddenly annouched what had happened. Are bob even running these plex's or is it RA?
Blood plexes are in Delve(BoB's home sweet home) and neighbouring regions, afaik RA ain't there.
As for FIX, it's not what it used to be. The ones left are the fanatics who blindly follow BoB to their deaths.
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Yeah - but RA alts are in every 10/10 plex system all over the place. They have a reputation of a plex not being run - RA is there to run it! Either bob were exploiting it or RA was - The quesiton is - who was running the plex?
EDIT: I found out - IT WAS RA - LOL - After megacyde Dupe exploit, the "Miner II recycles into more mins than build cost" exploit, the 8/10 Exploit and now the 10/10 Exploit, Will RA ever cease to use exploits for isk?
EDIT2: Aparently I have found ou that not only this, but RA plex's in RA space respawn EVERY 4 Hours! OMG - Thats 6bil a plex a day in effects alone! Dev cheating is nothing compared to the cheating RA is doing as we speak!
Some plexes respawn every 6 hours (Serpentis) and some every 4 hours (Angels, possibly Blood - not sure). The bug/sploit was the hourly endboss respawning and farming. I think the 6 vs 4 hour respawns are on purpose based on loot tables to make them approximately equally profitable.
I have lived in alliances with both types of plexes and I prefer the serpentis 6 hour respawns to the Angel 4 hour ones, cause Angels SUCK.
I quote this from the F-T post.
\" Nothing sov-related happening here; lots of AAA/SNIGG ganking. The only part of strategic interest is the removal of the bugged Blood Raider complexes, and the pretty firm control over the other BoB complexes by teams of Russian runners. \"
Please do not flame me when I ask this but surely it was the \" teams of Russian runners \" running these bugged plexes, or did this happen AFTER they where removed?
I am quite sure BOD milked them for a loong time before the RED's got there and took them from BOD in the past weeks.
Going by forums and in here- It was only for 3 days that the blood plex's respawed every hour, i.e since the patch - and those three days RA was doing them. Before then, according to the forums, the blood plex's never worked. Clearly they are more intrested in exploiting than helping the coalation!
Clearly you are more interested in Trolling than playing the game!
Who said they were Broken BOD?
Funny quite a few BOD Machariels and Officer Scorpions were seen running those same complexes over the past years.
Past years? They were added with revelatioins afaik.
The blood plexes had problems with droppings and spawn rates. Mostly droppings (wich were non existant). As I have been told the 6/10 versions payed better than the 10/10s (bloodraider).
It was fixed and actually started dropping loot, but spawned WAY too often.
Edit: Plexes should be moved to exploration based content imho. Or even removed completely.
Obviously that cannot be correct - Since these plex's did not exist until a month or two ago, and were, according to eve forums, compleatly broken as in dropping nothing, not even effects. Then they were fixed for three days, which aparently on another thread in this forum, were run by RA during this time. So RA exploited these plex's, and yet again, when RA is exposed of cheating and exploiting bugs, nobody want to take about it. I dont see any rapetrain trying to take on RA for useing the mineral dupe, the miner II exploit, the 8/10 expoit or the 10/10 exploit. Whats that telling you? What you need is peopl with honur and respect to fight cheaters and exploiters wherever they are rather than hide the topic by accusing everyone of being a bod alt
Ahh I used a "S" at the end It should have read "past Year".
I also agree make all Plexes Random one time events that require scanning to find.
But then again how would CCP prove that some alliances weren't favored more then others if this were to be put in play?
I did a little searching on eve-search and eve3007 is correct. The relevant plexes were new ones and were only up for about 3 days (said by Devs after complaints from many alliances that they weren't working in multiple regions).
From coalition posts I would guess that the RA plex-ninjas did most of the running during that time, although I have no direct knowledge.
There is plenty to be mad at BOB about, but I don't think this one can be laid at their feet.
Thank you. You are only of the few people here who actually bother to look for the truth. The rest of the people here try to blind themselves that they have sided with the pedophiles to take on the rapists.
I love how everyone starts quoting stupid numbers.
Facts:
Those plexs had been there 3 days and was then hotfixed. Furthermore, those plexs dont drop overseers effects.
Dark shikari posted as soon as he noticed it, and fix run their plex as much as bob run theirs. How do you know BoB noticed? In the SAME thread RA admit they were ninjaing BoBs complexs, so its very likely RA got many of the spawns... AGAIN.
Even if BoB did, we are talking NOTHING like the scale that RA farmed theirs.
A little perspective coalition plz! I know you must be getting pretty desperate but come on...
So what does the coalation think of RA with their Exploit's? The train may not have breaks, but when the driver is stealing money out of the ticket collecters till, questions need to be answerd.
About as much as I think of Bob getting people to pay then for the privaage of doing all the work to maintain "their" space and of fighting to defend "BoBs" space, and the joy of bob taking all the credit for both.
Good Job, RA! For taking money from rigged plex, which meant by CCP, to give BOD trillions of isk.
RA's complex farming happened long before most of us had any association with them.
Also, it is worth pointing out that the main reason the eve community has been in such an outrage about bob's exploits is because they brag about how great they are all the time. RA keeps quiet, and do their own thing. So not as many people are nearly as offended by their actions since it isn't nearly as hypocritical as what bob was doing. RA may be similar to bob in some ways, but they do it all without the forum arrogance and without a dozen ccp employees to help.
Bit strange that the plex did not drop anything, not even effects or bounties since they were broken even since they were placed, other that the 3 days that RA did them?
RA must be working with CCP then!
POSTFU As you BOD guys love to post in these threads.
Really strange! The assumption that it didn't drop anything is wrong
I am going by whatever is written in eve-forums. Was it dropping anything before RA ran it?
If it wasn't droping, why to place it? Why to close it?
Interesting Grammar...seems like the way some of the Russians I know speak... Evil Thug.. is that you?
no
But I am honored with ur assumption
This is silly.
1) The RA people banned for abusing complexes all had their bans rescinded, except for 1 who was apparently using a macro.
2) I have it from authoritative sources that the complexes were run a great deal for the three days they were functioning and under FIX control, but that as soon as RA took over the complexes (because taking over complexes is pretty much what they do), this FIX guy reports that the complexes are broken to the mods. The timing is no coincidence --if FIX had retained control of the complexes we might not have found out about this for months.
There's a lot of crap in this thread. It reminds me of eve-o.
I have it from 'Authoratative sources' that Goons have found a way to dupe chars and actually all 5000 of them are 1 person: Remedial in his moms basement
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