Moved to london (was "Moving to London")

**Malcanis** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Aurora148

Virgin offers the fastest packages and is usually cheaper than the others, but it brings with it the problems that most big ISPs have (shitty customer service, bad routers, seemingly random downtime, ect)

There are some smaller ISPs which are really good, but the speeds they offer will be significantly lower.

Personally the only problem I've ever had with Virgin is with their cable router but they sent me out a new one and I've not had any other problems vOv

The advertised speeds are almost meaningless tbh. I've never heard of anyone with Virgin getting even half of their "maximum" download speed. The smaller ISPs almost certainly aren't actually slower; they're just less dishonest. Basically: avoid Virgin and avoid BT.

**Aurora148** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Malcanis

The advertised speeds are almost meaningless tbh. I've never heard of anyone with Virgin getting even half of their "maximum" download speed. The smaller ISPs almost certainly aren't actually slower; they're just less dishonest. Basically: avoid Virgin and avoid BT.

I pay for 30Mb so its pretty close.

Most people complain about their broadband speed because they don't know what the numbers mean, they pay for 50Mb and expect 50mb/s download speeds while the maximum they could get is 5mb/s. Mb =/= mb

**MtA** · 2011-09-26

A bit is not a byte? What sorcery is this?

**Agathor** · 2011-09-26

We have fibre optics to the home here in Reykjavik

Tis is the best.
I have a 50mb/50mb connection with Vodafone mainly because I get very cheap TV with it.

**Agathor** · 2011-09-26

You can get 100mb/100mb deals np. With 0 isk to home phone in 48 countries and 0 isk GSM in 10 countries.

That will cost you about 5000 isk(25 pounds). The white box you get has 2 HD TV output, 1 phone output, 3 Lan outputs.

Heard somewhere that they can pump 300mb to the system using current servers.

http://hringdu.is/?page=ljos

**Stronke** · 2011-09-26

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fail

**J'envie Smack** · 2011-09-26

Since we're posting speed tests...

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**Bobby Bobster** · 2011-09-26

You are all bitches!!

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My 2.5Mb/0.8Mb connection will quietly skulk off into the corner.

Why does the wireless suck through brick walls. The microwaves from the government satellites get through with no problem. Thank god for my special hat.

**Vinata** · 2011-09-26

My roommate sits on a laptop upstairs and always complains about how shitty the net is and how it takes him an hour to download a file less than 1MB in size.

I'm standing by the claim it is his laptop's fault.

**Checkbox Poll** · 2011-09-27

**Vinata** · 2011-09-27

Oh that's bullshit.

**teds** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

So what do you suggest?

BT is all-around good, good TV service now also. Or if you'd lean more towards the TV service, sky do excellent TV with an ok internet arm

**Tyrael** · 2011-09-27

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Yeah suck it!11

Edit: Woo I live in Silicon Valley

**Stronke** · 2011-09-27

The fuck Checkbox

I think I am the most jealous of your and Agathor's ping.

**tgr** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by Vinata

My roommate sits on a laptop upstairs and always complains about how shitty the net is and how it takes him an hour to download a file less than 1MB in size.

I'm standing by the claim it is his laptop's fault.

Is he a wireless-using faggot?

**Bobby Bobster** · 2011-09-27

Ha, Stronke gets a lower grade than me even though his download speed is more than 5 times faster than mine.

Confirming that England is a 3rd world country connected to the internet by a damp piece of string.

**Stronke** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by tgr

Is he a wireless-using faggot?

You rang?

**Don Peyote** · 2011-09-27

So fast! :swoon:

Also I don't live around 50miles from Gloucester that is a total load of shit

FYI i'm sitting next to the router

**Checkbox Poll** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by Vinata

Oh that's bullshit.

My upload is lower this morning, but for those clamoring for proof:

**MtA** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by Checkbox Poll

My upload is lower this morning, but for those clamoring for proof:

Oh, hell no. Fuck off.

**teds** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by KingOfTheDaves

Ha, Stronke gets a lower grade than me even though his download speed is more than 5 times faster than mine.

Confirming that England is a 3rd world country connected to the internet by a damp piece of string.

C this. in my little lovely corner of Cheshire i don't know anyone with anything quicker than 10gb actual downspeed. In N.Ireland there's still plenty of places without any form of broadband.

**The quick and the dead** · 2011-09-27

The real question how much does 208Mb of bandwidth cost?

**Mr Coloredshirt** · 2011-09-27

inb4 he's at work

**Vinata** · 2011-09-27

Originally Posted by tgr

Is he a wireless-using faggot?

Everyone here is.

**Mulla Nasrudin** · 2011-10-02

Finally moved to my new flat in Shad Thames.

I am exhausted! And it is so hot here! It feels like Summer and we are the first of October today.

I checked in 6 luggages (golf bag, 3 cartons, 1 small suitcase full of books, and a bunch of coats and jackets in vacuum bags that i tied together in a cover with scotch.) Eurostar allows 6 checked-in luggages (22 EUR each) for 2 tickets (you can pick them 24 hours after check-in.) The cool thing is that they don't verify if you have more luggages when you get in the train; so my gf and i got on the train with a huge handcarry bag, laptop bag and 4 huge suitcases. That's a total of 11 luggages (around 275 kilos!)

We missed our first train (because the custom officer freaked out when he looked at the xray scan of our luggages. All clothes were vacuum compressed and there was electronic stuff in all the interstices. "Why do you have an Xbox 360, PS3, Mac Mini, Apple TV, two laptops, a PSP, a NDS? - I actually left my other PS3 in Paris." Since the customs delayed us, we were booked on the next train without penalty.

Taxis in London are much cheaper than in Paris. From St Pancras to Shad Thames (near London Bridge) it took 20 EUR to get there. From Republique to Gare du Nord (3 metro stops) we were charged 40 EUR (30 EUR + 10 EUR for the luggages.)

Changing money at the St Pancras train or Gare du Nord stations is a complete rip-off.
Paddington's chinese moneychangers have much better rates.

Regarding the meet-up. We should fix a date around the 3rd or 4th week of October. We can probably use the same venue as DC4420 (Defcon London). It has a big room downstairs. (DOWNSTAIRS!@ The Phoenix, Cavendish Square). I'll probably be at the next DC4420 meeting on the 18th of October.

**Marivauder** · 2011-10-02

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

I am exhausted! And it is so hot here! It feels like Summer and we are the first of October today.

Enjoy the heat while it lasts, because you will not see more if it in the next 6+ months

Also time to change your location from Paris to London

**Chef** · 2011-10-02

Again with the ISPeen comparison...

*le sigh* okay...

**Mulla Nasrudin** · 2011-10-02

Before I start a new thread about the Kugutsumen Meetup in London.

What do you guys think of 22nd of October? Starting 6PM. It is a Saturday.
Or 29th of October?

Edit: I think 29th is preferable since we will have more time to organize ourselves.

**Grarr Dexx** · 2011-10-02

Maybe a weekend thing or something? Multiple bar trips and what else you can do in London? Would be a shame if we only got a day of action :P

**Rydia** · 2011-10-03

It may be snowing next week is the funny part.

**Bowkers** · 2011-10-03

in London??

**Glomp** · 2011-10-03

Anything is possible in Larrdarrn Taown

**Mulla Nasrudin** · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Rydia

It may be snowing next week is the funny part.

Today, it's 28º celcius.

**Malcanis** · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

Today, it's 28º celcius.

That indicates nothing whatsoever about what weather we'll get next week. All it means is that if there is snow, the ground will be too warm for it to settle and it will instantly convert into filthy grey slush.

Booty Looty · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

Edit: I think 29th is preferable since we will have more time to organize ourselves.

29th sounds good. Some time in the afternoon.

In the past a lot of eve meets have happened at Goodmans Field, which is nice because it tends to be relatively central and mostly empty at the weekend. Plus it's a Wetherspoons so it has the benefit of being dirt cheap.

http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/goodmans-field

**Stronke** · 2011-10-03

Could we do it one weekend later? the 29th is the weekend my mum is having her birthday and we will be going away from Friday.

**someguyfromoverthere** · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Malcanis

That indicates nothing whatsoever about what weather we'll get next week. All it means is that if there is snow, the ground will be too warm for it to settle and it will instantly convert into filthy grey slush.

Grey snow is multicultural

**Agathor** · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Stronke

Could we do it one weekend later? the 29th is the weekend my mum is having her birthday and we will be going away from Friday.

5 November is ok for me, a bit more time welcome.

**HeliconOne** · 2011-10-03

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

What do you guys think of 22nd of October? Starting 6PM. It is a Saturday.
Or 29th of October?

If the last time I was out in London is any indication, by 6pm on saturday every bar is rammed and the music turned up so loud that all we'd be able to do is yell "WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY" into each others' ears until closing time. Plus for any of us thinking of travelling down from further afield, not starting until 6 makes it a whole lot less attractive.

Kick things off 2pm or so, preferably somewhere out of sight of a TV so everyone isn't swamped by football fans, and make a day of it.

**Rotor** · 2011-10-04

Internet: I have virgin 20mb and it's fast, I actually download movies with 3mb/s and upload with up to 2mb/s. I have never heard them complain that I download a lot either. Cons: customer service, the people who install it, everyone even remotely related to the company are completely retarded. The TV is shit, actually 90% of the stuff on british TV is terrible.

Telephone: Orange/T-Mobile, not the cheapest by far but the best coverage and coverage is the most important thing to me as I travel a lot around England. When you get a contract(and you should since pay as you go will be more expensive than contracts) PM me your number so we can have phone sex. Or something. Also you need to haggle with them(I know most people hate doing it but it actually works in England), for example with my contract I got a free bluetooth, free international minutes, free phone insurance for 4months.

Also visit/google/research any company that sells you services, gives you a fine, offers you something, etc. 50% of the people in London make money by scamming the other 50%. Anything from a traffic fine to some kind of debt collection for your unpaid TV license is almost always something stupid. Once you start reading that stuff you'll save yourself a lot of trouble dealing with people and companies.

Get a car. London is a big city and as a rule the fun thing you want to do is on the other side of the town. Driving instructors cost 17-20£/hr and if you have prior driving experience 5 lessons will be enough. Car insurance is extremely expensive but there are tricks to get cheap ones. Also cars here are pretty cheap and much better than the stuff people drive in France.

Drugs are cheap and you can find them anywhere. Don't buy anything from Hackney or South London though.

Fall in London is like fall in Paris, only 5 times more rain. Winters are pretty cold.

Also what kind of job will you have here? Software security?

For me a meeting in October is a no-go since I'm going to be on the other side of the continent, hope to catch the next one.

Also most of my advice might be shit, I'm almost paranoid in this city.

**Fartman** · 2011-10-04

Originally Posted by Agathor

5 November is ok for me

**Droops** · 2011-10-04

Getting in late, but:

mind you this is 'fast' for toowoomba, australia.

**Agathor** · 2011-10-04

Originally Posted by Fartman

Not really, as Stronke is on my MSN and my Facebook friend. He knows exactly what I look like.

**Stronke** · 2011-10-04

Fucking sexy to be honest.

**John Smith** · 2011-10-04

Originally Posted by Rotor

Internet: I have virgin 20mb and it's fast, I actually download movies with 3mb/s and upload with up to 2mb/s. I have never heard them complain that I download a lot either. Cons: customer service, the people who install it, everyone even remotely related to the company are completely retarded. The TV is shit, actually 90% of the stuff on british TV is terrible.

Telephone: Orange/T-Mobile, not the cheapest by far but the best coverage and coverage is the most important thing to me as I travel a lot around England. When you get a contract(and you should since pay as you go will be more expensive than contracts) PM me your number so we can have phone sex. Or something. Also you need to haggle with them(I know most people hate doing it but it actually works in England), for example with my contract I got a free bluetooth, free international minutes, free phone insurance for 4months.

Also visit/google/research any company that sells you services, gives you a fine, offers you something, etc. 50% of the people in London make money by scamming the other 50%. Anything from a traffic fine to some kind of debt collection for your unpaid TV license is almost always something stupid. Once you start reading that stuff you'll save yourself a lot of trouble dealing with people and companies.

Get a car. London is a big city and as a rule the fun thing you want to do is on the other side of the town. Driving instructors cost 17-20£/hr and if you have prior driving experience 5 lessons will be enough. Car insurance is extremely expensive but there are tricks to get cheap ones. Also cars here are pretty cheap and much better than the stuff people drive in France.

Drugs are cheap and you can find them anywhere. Don't buy anything from Hackney or South London though.

Fall in London is like fall in Paris, only 5 times more rain. Winters are pretty cold.

Also what kind of job will you have here? Software security?

For me a meeting in October is a no-go since I'm going to be on the other side of the continent, hope to catch the next one.

Also most of my advice might be shit, I'm almost paranoid in this city.

South london drugs are fine my good man. This is northerner talk and won't stand.

edit: I'm already booked up for a trip to london the 29th and can't afford to keep coming back, so the earliest I'd be up for a meet is sometime mid dec.

Booty Looty · 2011-10-05

Originally Posted by Mulla Nasrudin

We can probably use the same venue as DC4420 (Defcon London). It has a big room downstairs. (DOWNSTAIRS!@ The Phoenix, Cavendish Square). I'll probably be at the next DC4420 meeting on the 18th of October.

Cool, a friend of mine (Adrian/Alien) runs DC4420. I might be there.

**Malcanis** · 2011-10-05

If the meetup is on the 29th, well then as it happens on that night I will be going to a moderately massive all-nighter which might make for an amusing aftermeetup gig. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Additional bonus: to see how really badly I dance when I'm off my face on drink & drugs.