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    AAA have often said , If CVA would get attacked.

    They would interfere. Prop not as friends , just being the normal assholes they are. Camping supply lines and sending roaming gangs to jizz up the place.

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    Good luck CVA tbh.

    As regards -A- and UK offering moral support and "promising" not to take advantage of the situation...


    “He who lives by fighting with an enemy has an interest in the preservation of the enemy's life.”

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    It's a game, and the relationship between -A-, UK and CVA seems to generate more fun than most enjoy in EvE.

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    ITs win win to have CVA and holders there as has been stated many many times before. Its just damn good fun knowing you can take a fleet to a destination in provi and get a good fight.

    I mean really -AAA- doesnt need sov to drop like this if they really wanted to take provi. CVA knows this -AAA- knows this christ most of eve should know this. They could simple just steam roll over that region. They have the FC's, the fleet and most importantly the exp in that type of warfare.

    UK on the other hand is who i would worry about. RP aside they too have some fine pilots and do bring a good fight as well. My concern would be the RP guys trying to spin this into war and be justified in doing so. That would be interesting to see how -AAA- handled that one if it did happen. I also would not be surprised if UK does in fact try to take a few systems that they feel they rightly own that were lost to cva. Not all out war but pick and choose a few systems to take.

    If i am not mistaken and i ma be of course but i believe #1 thing to do is form a new alliance so you can get the sov ticker going again regardless of the outcome they need that ticker to start now.

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    I can attest to the fact that there have been many internal discussions as to what -A- will do in case CVA got seriously attacked/invaded with the purpose of evicting them.

    The consensus was (and I'm saying "was" because it wasn't very recent) that CVA are too valuable for -A- alive rather than dead and there is genuine sympathy towards them.

    Other discussions even went as far as proposing patrols within CVA territory to fight off hostile roaming groups.

    I don't know if this is public knowledge but -A- and CVA/Holders have on few occasions even had organized war games on the border of Catch and Providence.

    See, -A- is honourable as that

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    This makes against ALL authorities even more comical a nomenclature...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeze View Post
    This makes against ALL authorities even more comical a nomenclature...
    Why don't you freeze in your shithole, douchebag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    even if the worst happens, the bright side is that if there is one guy in the game who knows a thing or two about founding alliances, it's hardin, heh
    Already done Although we hope it's just a temporary measure and that the original name will be returned. Had to pay £15 of rl cash for the privledge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    Why don't you freeze in your shithole, douchebag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginlaan View Post
    I mean really -AAA- doesnt need sov to drop like this if they really wanted to take provi. CVA knows this -AAA- knows this christ most of eve should know this. They could simple just steam roll over that region. They have the FC's, the fleet and most importantly the exp in that type of warfare.
    I don't think so. Personally I believe that with CVA's sovereignty intact AAA would not be able to lead a solo campaign to conquer Providence. Many people underestimate CVA, when they slaughter the unorganized blobs of their residents, but when they are a lead by a strong CVA core, their fleets are actually quite effective. Also AAA generally can only get around 200-250 people in their peak timezone with good participation, Providence can shell out 500+ on a whim. Even if theoretically AAA could overpower Provi holders, it would be an extremely hard and long fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeze View Post
    This makes against ALL authorities even more comical a nomenclature...
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    Why don't you freeze in your shithole, douchebag?

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    fun time over, GM is restoring them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    Why don't you freeze in your shithole, douchebag?
    funny talk coming from a Russian

    oh yeah I went theire BOOM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Cumsavorer View Post
    funny talk coming from a Russian

    oh yeah I went theire BOOM
    Oh snap, you sure got me this time. I live in syberia, I wear an ushanka, I drink vodka from beer glasses for breakfast, I play the balalaika and have a dancing bear for pet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    Oh snap, you sure got me this time. I live in syberia, I wear an ushanka, I drink vodka from beer glasses for breakfast, I play the balalaika and have a dancing bear for pet.
    So you're not a bear on a unicycle? Definitely not russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    Oh snap, you sure got me this time. I live in syberia, I wear an ushanka, I drink vodka from beer glasses for breakfast, I play the balalaika and have a dancing bear for pet.
    do i detect an hint of anger at the sight of my awesome burn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    hardin statement.



    utterly no one taking advantage of this atm. like one crap CH gang.

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    funny the difference between this and BoB disband. when BoB got pulled the reaction was "woohoo, let's go shoot them". CVA it's "e-honour o7 o7 o7 we stand united". draw your own flamebaity conclusion based on those two disband examples
    Yeah .. BOB was despised and most of eve thought it apt that they were fucked over by one of their own shits who spent most of his time in eve fucking over other alliances on their behalf. If it had happened to PL, Goons or half a dozen long dead alliances the story would be different. CVA have never engaged in metagaming to wreck other people's enjoyment of the game. Reputation and 'character' matter in life and in game.

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    If by reputation and character you mean ability to provide easy targets with no actual risk of losing territory to said targets then yes.
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    Alex, why did you ban your little fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeze View Post
    This makes against ALL authorities even more comical a nomenclature...
    I love how the ALL is in all caps. Just in case someone thought they might only be against most authorities.

    EDIT: I had further points, but I read that the GM was restoring CVA, so no more speculation... uh... read the next post.

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    Actually, CVA is very important to that area of 0.0. They provide targets.

    If Providence were to be occupied by AAA or one of their blues, they would have to go several REGIONS to find a red.

    Alliances that don't have anything for pvp'ers to do lose their PVP'ers to alliances and corps that do, and leave them only with the carebears that think Ravens are perfectly good battleships to take to a PVP fight.

    (Ok, I will admit that specialized TORP Ravens DO have a pvp use... but cruise "sniper" Ravens... UGGH... LEAVE any alliance you are in that has people who thinks that is a fleet BS...)

    That was the standard battleship of IRC when I was there...

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    ur all idiots, Against ALL authorities implies they aren't an 'authority' themselves and as they are one of the largest powerhouses in eve, everyone else isn't an authority either. They are only against the ppl who think themselves an authority.

    Now I just have to decide wether that was meant as anti or pro AAA propaganda.
    lts like having to choose between two cans of soup in the supermarket, we all choose in the end but there is no rationale behind it.

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    Why does my head suddenly feel like it cant decide wether to explode or implode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderKnight View Post
    (Ok, I will admit that specialized TORP Ravens DO have a pvp use... but cruise "sniper" Ravens... UGGH... LEAVE any alliance you are in that has people who thinks that is a fleet BS...)

    That was the standard battleship of IRC when I was there...
    Ugh, that was one of the reasons why I quited my old corp after they joined MH, the amount of retarded fittings some of their pilots would bring to ops is beyond words.
    EVE fail pilot since 06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberjunk View Post
    Ugh, that was one of the reasons why I quited my old corp after they joined MH, the amount of retarded fittings some of their pilots would bring to ops is beyond words.
    Hey! I'm working on them! Its getting better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mynas View Post
    Hey! I'm working on them! Its getting better
    care to comment on the recent departures from MH?

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    I can confirm that CVA lives again... possibility of some minor issues with the restore but in general everything looks like it should.

    Yes it was a hack. That was confirmed by CCP who took the appropriate action albeit much more swiftly than I (and many in the alliance) expected. So our gratitude to them for getting on the case so quickly!

    We will make a more detailed comment on this whole 'event' at some point in the near future but I would just like to reiterate my thanks to all who 'supported' us in this - often from unusual/unlikely directions.

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    we had lots of blue blobs camping gates all over providence... Sys-chaos came to help too... at least were to told that they are NRDS in providence yesterday. UK stayed cloak as usual... i heard they were told not to engage but no confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreeze View Post
    This makes against ALL authorities even more comical a nomenclature...
    hahhahahaha
    so true

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    grats CVAs. Though it should have taken a few days more, now we are out of pr0n again.

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    Honestly, I'm kinda getting tired of all this endless whining/trolling/arguing/smack/whatever. No one gives a fucking shit if some alliance is one big fucking blue blob, or if GS is turning into BOB unless its backed up with evidence and actual logical discussion. You fags might like the shit, but if I wanted to read shit I'd read CAOD.

    The reason people read Kug is due to the actual discussion, analysis, and information sharing that happens - and when I say "actual" I mean backed up by a logical thought process - and not to read the trash thats been plaguing the forums for a while. I know I'm pretty much wasting my time with this, but would you guys keep the spewing of shit out of this forum and in CAOD?

    TL;DR stfu faggots, no one cares about shitty idiots who argue about pitifully mundane things.

    On another note, Im pretty damn happy that CVA got restored. Anybody got any info on how much isk was lost by cva/pets as they were moving shit to empire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mashashige View Post

    On another note, Im pretty damn happy that CVA got restored. Anybody got any info on how much isk was lost by cva/pets as they were moving shit to empire?
    I don't think CVA or providence residents were moving their assets out of providence... at least my corp nor the alliance moved anything out of the area.... we were pretty much planned stay till the last ship (at least i was)

    Tbh, most the entry points to providence had 100+ people in the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mashashige View Post
    Honestly, I'm kinda getting tired of all this endless whining/trolling/arguing/smack/whatever. No one gives a fucking shit if some alliance is one big fucking blue blob, or if GS is turning into BOB unless its backed up with evidence and actual logical discussion. You fags might like the shit, but if I wanted to read shit I'd read CAOD.

    The reason people read Kug is due to the actual discussion, analysis, and information sharing that happens - and when I say "actual" I mean backed up by a logical thought process - and not to read the trash thats been plaguing the forums for a while. I know I'm pretty much wasting my time with this, but would you guys keep the spewing of shit out of this forum and in CAOD?

    TL;DR stfu faggots, no one cares about shitty idiots who argue about pitifully mundane things.

    On another note, Im pretty damn happy that CVA got restored. Anybody got any info on how much isk was lost by cva/pets as they were moving shit to empire?
    There is a much more moderated area that should not contain any such endless whining/trolling/arguing/smack/whatever. I would love to see it used more, and perhaps we should have a thread both there and here for the updates.

    I'm also happy CVA was restored, but they were going to get restored with or without GM intervention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadtoregistertoreadit View Post
    I don't think CVA or providence residents were moving their assets out of providence... at least my corp nor the alliance moved anything out of the area.... we were pretty much planned stay till the last ship (at least i was)

    Tbh, most the entry points to providence had 100+ people in the system.
    confirming. standing orders were "move everything INTO providence" and certainly didn't see anyone leaving or taking anything down

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    what I saw on the g-5/assah gate was quite alot of haulers going out of provi, even killed a couple with a SB alt. But it might just be some random guys doing their own thing, or just that tread alliance wasn't doing the same thing as the others.

    Also, my rep - nooooooooo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mashashige View Post
    what I saw on the g-5/assah gate was quite alot of haulers going out of provi, even killed a couple with a SB alt. But it might just be some random guys doing their own thing, or just that tread alliance wasn't doing the same thing as the others.

    Also, my rep - nooooooooo!

    Edit: my rep - yeaaaaaahh!!!
    I know i camped R3/Misaba gate with other blues and we didnt see anyone moving out of providence. I didnt see much move out of Dital pipe either...

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    In other news, Defi4nt is rumored to have payed Ev0ke (i love this leet-Numbers-For-Letters-Names) a staggering amount of money for blue standing so they can get their stuff out of cloud ring, being the last NC-Member left there.

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    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mashashige View Post
    what I saw on the g-5/assah gate was quite alot of haulers going out of provi, even killed a couple with a SB alt. But it might just be some random guys doing their own thing, or just that tread alliance wasn't doing the same thing as the others.
    G5 haulers die on regular bases is or isnt there a war or anything else (it just happens) ..

    Because of Dominion people have prolly moved all the valuable stashes to lowsec and left only first need pvp stuff.. The only welp could happen with the Sov4 specific structures then again it didnt happen so who knows how it would turned out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.
    I lol'ed.

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    Disbandings are a pain in the cunt for ccp to deal with - can you imagine a goonswarm disbanding.. They want to get it sorted before that happens (and it will)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pripyat View Post
    In other news, Defi4nt is rumored to have payed Ev0ke (i love this leet-Numbers-For-Letters-Names) a staggering amount of money for blue standing so they can get their stuff out of cloud ring, being the last NC-Member left there.
    I found this difficult to believe, but have confirmed it. Propping up an incompetent pet alliance is tough .. one that doesn't talk or liaise and makes absolutely no effort to communicate when their pos are reinforced or attacked is nigh-on impossible. When various people offered Ev0ke Cloud Ring if they wanted it and they said no, we shrugged and said 'their loss'. Turns out Ev0ke were right to hold out for a better offer. None of us imagined that someone, Defiant, would be stupid enough to pay them to take it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pink View Post
    care to comment on the recent departures from MH?
    One corp will be missed, but has gone off to conquer space with the rest of our PvP alts in IT alliance. The others merged, disbanded, left through inactivity or being shit or in one case left to join an alliance far from any potential front lines as an average of two CTAs per week spread across all timezones (most ships types fully replaced on loss) was too hardcore for them. Expect to see more fat being shed as we continue our detox and fitness regime in preperation for Dominion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.
    I'm thinking sometype of alliance disbanding clock where it's basically "click cancel within x time to stop disband"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.

    That is uncommonly perceptive. +rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.
    More likely they just didn't pay the bill.

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    Perhaps the Alliance system is moving away from a binary red/blue system to something which works on a gradual scale.

    By this I mean that the members of an alliance might instead be deduced by looking at which other groups have passage, mining, renting etc rights. Instead of simply setting a group blue, we might see groups which are composed of corporations which trust each other enough to let them near their territory, and unlinking an alliance might require a turning off a lot of treaties and other arrangements. This would let alliances / corporations work faster both at allying and at betraying each other. And when someone "turns" and pulls all those permissions, all the groups have to do is reapply all their treaties.

    That theory would, in my mind, solve a few of these problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    CCP Engineering Alliance lost all sov a while back. It's reasonable to assume they were testing some new mechanic relating to disbanding, so expect it to be different in dominion.
    Perhaps they are getting ready to join IT alliance pre-dominion.

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    Stealthfield bills themselves as the Only Blackops/stealth corp. They are gearing up to maybe make a move in 0.0 finally? And the think they have a spy?

    Well may be of interest to someone.

    we will be deploying to Vale of The Silent; Majesta Empire space. The logistical move will take place throughout the week, and actual combat Ops will begin on the very next Friday, the 30th of October.

    Do NOT discuss this in Corp, as ****, one of the founding members, has been discovered to be a spy for Star Frontiers. He has a number of shares, so kicking him might take a few days.

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    Do NOT discuss this in Corp, as ****, one of the founding members, has been discovered to be a spy for Star Frontiers. He has a number of shares, so kicking him might take a few days.
    Well that was an effective anti-spy measure. For those of you who arrived after the hasty edit the secret word was: Ruric Thyase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smn View Post
    Well that was an effective anti-spy measure. For those of you who arrived after the hasty edit the secret word was: Ruric Thyase.
    Hmm, thought I saw that pretty much off the bat and it had stars in it. It's also not in the edit log.

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