[LODRA] Office of Diplomacy - Diplomatic Briefing for 5/13/10
"Oh hell yes! No more Angel rats!" -Me
Those were my words when we left our bloated empire of the southeast and gambled everything on a shot at taking over Delve. Even though we initially won, through some hilarious hijinks we managed to lose everything and have to start over from scratch. We of course won that war, and then spent the next year losing the peace due to neglect and apathy. You all don't need to hear what happened next because you all experienced it, so let's talk about what happened behind the scenes on this one.
When we moved to Cloud Ring we thought we were the same force that held Delve in the end, and we mostly were. An alliance without any motivation, low levels of activity in both the member base and directorate, and a general malaise that just wasn't going away. Through Cloud Ring and Deklein we showed up, but didn't show up with conviction and real interest because it wasn't our war and we weren't surrounded by people we've worked with over the years and befriended which despite all the "heh, pubbies" shit we spew is one of the fundamental pieces of the setup that works for us. Going back through our history every time we had a major war we always had our close friends nearby ready to cover the other timezones, or just to carry the load a bit when we falter. It is the strength of these bonds that made us strong and once we gave those up to go live in delve we began the slow march towards mediocrity.
Well all that changes monday. While we haven't been working together the entire time we have remained close with our traditional friends and allies. All sides agree on one thing, which is some of the best times they've had playing eve have been when they flew alongside their RSF buddies systematically beating the shit out of whoever we encountered (with the obvious exception of game breaking titan crap like when that tool Shrike sat his unkillable titan on KZF undock with smartbombs, yeah that was stupid shit and all titans should be deleted from the game just on principal at this point). We're going to take a shot at rebuilding what we once had which has nothing to do with stuff or things in game, and has everything to do with just getting back to playing spaceships with old friends we still enjoy hanging out with.
Of course maybe I'm wrong and they just tolerate us because they can't understand a damn word we say, but I like to think maybe we got a little something ready to build here. The south lays open before us ready to be plundered, and our allies are all on board. Your Diplomatic team has done everything we could to help set this stage for you, now it's time for you to show up and own everything.
Esoteria, Stain, Paragon Soul, Catch, Impass, Feythabolis
Sov Holding & Major Alliances:
AAA, ROL, SE, C0VEN, Ushra'Khan, Systematic-Chaos
Our efforts in the South have been directed mainly at the "peripheral" alliances in the area, since we pretty much know where the major players like AAA and ROL stand in terms of inter alliance relations. With a new diplomat heading this portfolio, Systematic-Chaos and Ushra'Khan have been approached to get their perspectives on their world and generally open or maintain channels of communication. Conversations with the diplomats from these alliances have been remarkably open and free of the dogma and posturing one would expect in 0.0 politics.
For its part, Systematic-Chaos has not had an easy time of things. As you are all well aware, Liam Fremen has more or less left EVE due to illness and command has devolved to two or three of his lieutenants. On top of this, Sys-K has been learning how unpleasant it is to live near Stain, as SE and C0VEN have been making serious territorial gains, having claimed several major systems and numerous high-end moons from Sys-K. C0VEN, in particular, has experienced noticeable growth and took the A1-AUH station early this week. Due to the losses, Sys-K reimbursement programs are on hold and while fleet numbers are still reasonably high, the number of battleships and caps the alliance fields are down, limiting their effectiveness in fleet fights. Sys-K's morale is down and they are feeling abandoned as none of their major allies have come to help them; so much so that there is open talk of abandoning Esoteria for territory held in Period Basis. Sys-K has a high degree of loyalty to IT and SirMolle in particular, and to date no IT forces have made any serious attempts to stop C0VEN from dismantling Sys-K's holdings in Esoteria. This profound loyalty helps to put Sys-K's turn on SE and C0VEN into perspective: when SE started roaming through IT space, it put Sys-K in a difficult position (from their point of view, at least) as the could not conceive of abandoning Molle. We have the benefit of having watched just about every pet that BoB/KenZoku/IT have had be tossed away when it is convenient and Systematic Chaos is just the latest in that sad litany. That there are still alliances out there willing to enslave themselves like that is amazing, given IT's unequalled abuse of its allies.
Conversations with diplomats in Ushra'Khan have been surprisingly friendly and far less depressing, due to the fact that they are not well into disintegration. They have also been noticeable for the lack of the bitter partisanship one has come to expect from CAOD luminaries like ButterDog or General Windypops. UK was created as a Minmatar RP alliance, something of a counterpart to the Amarr CVA. In UK's case, at least, the RP aspect is optional though all members are expected to tolerate those that choose to RP. Not surprisingly, the two RP alliances have had a heated rivalry for the past few years, defined most recently by UK's eviction of CVA from Providence with the backing of AAA. As many of you remember, that particular campaign was more or less triggered when CVA invaded AAA space, ostensibly in support of GoonSwarm defensive operations in 49-. In fact, the diplomats spoken to were genuinely curious as to whether or not we had actually made a deal with CVA (we never did) because the apparent alliance with us was the casus belli
for the massive invasion of Providence. For the time being, UK is busy working to secure its new region from the Amarr holdouts, and actually plan to reset many of their new neighbours once this process is complete. Because of this, they do not expect to deploy in serious strength to the North for the forseeable future. They've also been experiencing some trouble with AAA renters awoxing their people; apparently AAA is none too quick to do anything about that.
Ushra'Khan is not as united in political opinion as one might think; there are strong currents of support for the NC in UK, though the membership toes the line in terms of external policy. UK's diplomats were generally very curious about life in LODRA and wanted to know if our alliance is as anarchic as one might think. They also voiced admiration for our strong belief in (and willingness to practice) free speech and believe that we add something fun to EVE that would be otherwise lacking.
Further diplomatic efforts will continue with the establishment of communications with C0VEN, SE, ROL and AAA, in that order.
Detorid, Insmother, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass, Great Wildlands
Sov Holding & Major Alliances:
Atlas Alliance, Cult of War, Gentlemen's Club
Diplomat: Slap Chop
In this update I will be focusing on Cursed Alliance and how over the course of approximately one and a half months they have descended upon the southeastern regions, literally shitting on anyone who opposes them while the so-called dominant force is busy up north losing Titans. We immediately took notice of this and I have spent the last two weeks tagging along experiencing the awesomeness firsthand. Early in my investigation it had become readily apparent that Cursed Alliance has the sort of swagger we like to roll with. Consisting mainly of former TCF members, the bonds that have formed throughout the past were proven solid as my appearance in their staging system had aroused a sincerely warm welcome. Many of them had stories to tell of a train that haven't brakes, coursing through the region with nary a hint of Big Brother's reinforcements in sight. The killmail quoted below demonstrates what sort of good times our swanky friends have been enjoying.
After repeatedly dominating what inhabitants were left and willing to fight in Wicked Creek, they have chosen rather to deploy to their namesake region of Curse along with Here Be Dragons in order for some down south dick punching. Recent weeks have seen the southern regions transform into a festering pile of shit, with the loss of Providence by CVA to Ushra'Khan/AAA and a weakened Sys-K at war with C0VEN and Stain Empire. It is in this state of chaos that Cursed Alliance decided to have a go at it, leaving their stomping grounds behind for the time being and searching for a repeat performance of the southeastern experience.
A recent unexpected development was the announcement from our Russian best-friends-forever OEG regarding their departure from Red Alliance. Having chosen to head south, their presence in the region along with Cursed Alliance will surely deal a serious blow to the local population even though they cannot understand one another. These next two weeks Cursed Alliance will be stirring up trouble like they have yet to and if the past is an indicator of how things play out, the coming days will be a testament of how macho those glorious bastards really are.
Delve, Querious & Period Basis
Sov Holding & Major Alliances:
IT, AAA, Systematic-Chaos & Legiunea ROmana
Not a ton of news from the great Southwest since our last update. As has been widely discussed, IT has been splitting time between defending interests in the greater Delve neighborhood while camping/being camped in to H-W. They've suffered some rather high-profile and costly losses lately. Not surprisingly, the court of public opinion is begging the question of how long can they maintain support for what's seemingly been a meaningless grind. The "multi-team, multi-front" assault does not seem to have come to fruition for a multitude (multi trifecta) of reasons, not the least of which is SC allied support.
Nonetheless, conversations with IT's diplomats have indicated that there's no end in sight for the hostilities and that they couldn't be happier fighting Molle's grudge match. I wouldn't expect to hear anything less from them but the grumblings on some of the public forums (Kugu etc.) seem to indicate otherwise.
Syndicate, Cloud Ring,
Sov Holding & Major Alliances:
LODRA, Ev0ke, Cry Havok, HUN Reloaded, Panda Team, Aeternus, IT, Black Star Alliance, Arcane Alliance, Slammer's Republic, Blade, Pandemic Legion
Diplomat: Pony on the Porch
In the two weeks since my last report we have been relaxing. In my past updates I illustrated we would combine our forces with our new friends Dreddit and Sundering to act as a large and capable force augmentation for the NC. In the last two weeks this has worked in our favor culminating in downing of an Atlas titan Tuesday (https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/470121
congratulations to the rifter pilot). Former corporation IGNE has been absorbed into ARSED which has joined Dreddit in forming a new alliance.
Ev0ke, Dead Terrorists, and Cry Havok have taken control of Cloud Ring and are now starting to push farther North as I had portended would occur. Rumors abound that Mostly Harmless is rife with internal problems and about to fail. Ev0ke has been joined this week by Br1ck, who have moved North and now camp DKUK-G from time to time, with an eye towards taking MH space and cutting off the NC from Empire by attacking EC-P. IT/ROL are likely to encourage and support Ev0ke/Br1ck/CH to continue to attack through Assilot, destroy what they can of MH, and us. These goals mesh with these corp/alliances long term and short term interests so be ready to fight. Red Alliance has also decided to invade Branch and Venal, prompting the departure of OEG from their alliance to head South. What does this mean for us and RA? When we know you will know, but be prepared for disappointment. What does this mean for the North? Again it is unclear... but, we have the start of a possible group consisting of Ev0ke/Br1ck/CryHavok/WN/RA pincer attacking the North. The North West will continue to be a very important region for us to engage and disrupt.
Pandemic Legion (now host to Elitist Ops) have moved to KFIE in NPC Delve and seriously shaken the SC invasion plans. Groon, Panda Team, and PL continue to harass Black Star Alliance. A combined NC/PL/LODRA fleet successfully destroyed two CSAA aborting a Nyx and a baby Titan.
The Drone Regions
Etherium Reach, Malpais, The Spire, Perrigen Falls, Oasa, Outer Passage, Cobalt Edge
Sov Holding and Major Alliances:
Legion of xxDeathxx, Red Alliance, Solar Fleet, Intrepid Crossing, Voodoo Technologies, Flame Bridge
The past two weeks have been an interesting time for the Diplomatic Team in regards to the Drone regions (and, technically, Germinate). All this was essentially a bunch of interesting conversation, hushed discussions of possible plans, and a lot of careful analysing of Russian politics (where's zapawork when we need him!). This all came to an end when earlier this week we stumbled onto some some serious shit. The result of this is now more than apparent: RA, under the leadership of their erratic leader Silent Dodger, has decided to 'invade' portions of the North- namely Venal and Branch.
To set the scene for this further, here are a few things about our relationship with RA, and their current situation. RA, as many of us do know, is not quite what they used to be back in the days of RSF. This doesn't mean they aren't still Red Alliance, our bear riding buddies, but coupled with the period of less communication with them after we moved into Delve, this has led to us not being familiar with their new leadership structure until recently. In fact, it was only within the past couple of months that we reattained blue standings with them. After being pushed out of Insmother, RA was left to lick their wounds in portions of the Drone Regions until they recently acquired some of Germinate after the events over there at the beginning of the most recent invasion of the North by the Southern Coalition. Regardless, RA still harbours a serious dislike of Atlas, and has been grinding their teeth about wanting to strike back at them for some time now, but has been prevented from doing so by a lack of resources and support. Following our reinstatement of friendly standings, we were also discussing some more interesting possibilities with them.
However, as has been suspected for some time by us, and pretty much common knowledge to some of our other Russian friends, RA leadership has been shaky and erratic at best, and somewhat deceptive or untrustworthy at the worst. This has come into a much clearer light with recent events. Firstly, RA has an unclear relationship with White Noise, a Venal-focused alliance who has previously caused some trouble for the NC. WN, in turn, have an unclear relationship with the SC. Add to this Silent Dodger's insistence that WN isn't aligned with the SC, along with his announcement about the invasion of Venal and Branch, leaves us unsure if Silent Dodger is truly trustworthy as RA's leader. The result of all this you all may know of already: in response to their intention to invade Venal- despite our urgings not to- and the counter-productive nature of the decision, as well as their engaging in hostilities with those who are currently some of our closest allies, we have been forced to reset our standings with them. So far, however, their invasion has been less than successful.
This has also prompted OEG to leave Red Alliance
. It is more than likely they will be joining us in our new operations in the South!
Let's be clear on one note: this does not rule out any future relationship with RA. From communication with other RA members it is quite possible that these decisions are simply the ideas of a less-than-rational leader. Only time will tell.
The rest of the Drone regions have been dead quiet by comparison. Legion of xxDeathxx has been kicking around in their regions, as per usual, presumably mining and generally being Russian. One thing of note is a sudden departure
of roughly 30+ alliances from Shadow of x
EATHXx. From reports, this may simply be routine housecleaning of deadbeat corps, but it does indicate the Russians of xxDeathxx are at least still alive.
Pure Blind, Fade, Deklein, Branch, Venal, Tenal, Tribute
Sov Holding & Major Alliances:
The NC and various Venal dwellers
An eventful couple of weeks in the north, with some out-of-region stuff to report on as well. There's a narrative going on which I can't really be too explicit about, but which shouldn't be that hard to piece together.
The current Foreign Legion-style deployment to hit Atlas renters comes out of discussions that we had with various people in the north and elsewhere. As part of those discussions I ended up talking to Cursed Alliance, and they were all "bonjour messieurs why not come and help us here anyway?". After talking to Papa Digger it turned out that OEG were heading that way anyway, and since the hope had been to try and reassemble some sort of RSF thing again, things just started to fall into place.
Stella Polaris provided some hilarity, with their sov-dropping efforts. Thanks to the moon shenanigans it is fashionable to view them as devils incarnate rather than incompetent fuck-ups, but either way they are working with Rebellion to hold Venal against WN, RA and others, and thanks to Rebellion that is working pretty well in the face of large numbers. When Stella's sov dropped, Rebellion needed help as various people piled in. Lucas Tigh led a fleet up there to help and RA threatened to reset us if we helped Rebellion against White Noise: much brinksmanship followed while we asked Lucas to wait, the upshot of which was that I had to tell RA that we would engage White Noise. Fortunately, they promptly stood down, but RA have since then returned to shooting our friends and have been reset.
In the actual battles for the north, Sir "Blunt Object" Molle did once more what he has done so often before: in a repeat of 49-, H74 and so many others he called a huge multi-alliance operation, gambled everything on a decisive battle in H-W, and not only failed to take it but also collapsed in EC-, while losing an allied titan and an amazing number of capitals who were too dumb to use the ctrl-Q trick. A substantial portion of his forces, from subcaps to super-capitals, are still trapped in H-W, with all their staging towers dead, and his personal decision to use some of them today ended up in a supercapital massacre. With us about to be in Atlas space, PL wreaking havoc in Delve and his beloved sycophants Sys-K essentially dead in Esoteria Molle is scrambling.