Yeah props for the numbers you got and .. that's about it.
I like your standards.
Yeah props for the numbers you got and .. that's about it.
I like your standards.
So... whats going on in F3? your not taking sov are you? :P
We just moved to Insmother, close to Scalding and Wicked entries, and put SBUs to bring people there: http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4473
Nearly same motivated guys as yesterday in F-QQ and another fun time, gf![]()
Poor HTA.. well again.. to few BS:es and to much BC shit.. no wonder they die... it would been nice to take the fleet from last night against your fleet tonight.. that would been more of a fight![]()
Your doing good tho.. those Domi fleets are nasty :P
We decided to have a go in Insmother since HTA/Volution Cult seemed to want to have fun with us.
We formed up a Domi fleet with a few RR BS etc and headed to F3-8X2.
Anchored SBUs and RFed 3 small POS while our was onlining.
HTA/Volution Cult came when there was a bout 15 min left on the SBUs
http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4569
Once they bailed we started to work on the TCU, till they came back briefly.
Once TCU was dead we jumped in XO where around 30 ships were hugging F3 gate in a large buble.
http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4581
We then took a few potshots at N3 station then headed home.
Thanks for the fight.
Tbh the renters should be paid for so much lolz in entertaining you, its almost unbelievable, how onesided fights can end.
PL/SE+C0ven/Cursed+Darkside have my props for having fun in the south the outside while killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playingIt works even without the blob.
why single out cry havoc? you'll probably lose heavily outnumbered against most alliances unless its someone like BLAST or IT
We havent outnumbered a fleet since delve 2 over a year ago![]()
You guys give plenty of care to what people think. Your posting(s) says as much.
PS. You won't get any e-kudos from killing renters, no matter how outnumbered you are so lighten up on the posts yo.
I dont remember pointing out we are outnumbered. ie last report and the report before that etc.
But hey whatever floats your boat man.
Oh noes !!!! No point in logging in anymoreYou won't get any e-kudos from killing renters.
Seriously, we happily leave you the "omg i'm so leet" status
i personally agree with you but renters are all we can find several regions away so we have to manage with that. Our leaders tried to find a better challenge ( i heard once someone talking about Esoteria ) but our alliance is still young and i'm not sure this is something we are willing to do yet, i mean Curse and regions around are really a paradise for us providing good roamings and turkey shoot. (maybe no real challenge but so much fun!)
I think we will get a challenge when a serious alliance will come to settle in WC or ScP or we will just have to wait for the return of Atlas & co (even if we can't do much against their cap blob).
PS: that's for our situation right now, we had good fights before (i mean with some good opposition)
If it's all just for fun the who cares about their cap blob?
Burnes is right in that
but picking on small time renters in WC/ScP just makes you look like half ass'ed Tri rip offs.You can have a lot of fun "killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing"
You guys are better then that...go find something real to shoot. I DEMAND/EXPECT more!!!!!![]()
Someone wants to pay for my sub ?
What a bunch of elitist tools and wankers.
Cursed are havign fun ripping it up - and conducting a valuable service for those renters by hardening them up - and enjoying themselves to boot. Why don't you jealous die-hards fuck off and go kill someone without a blob behind YOU and try having fun while ur at it. They don't need your approbation to get stuck in - good job Cursed n friends - kill whoever you want to and die to whoever you want too - just have fun and fuck these aresholes giving you shit. A kill is a kill is a kill.
What difference it makes to kill what you describe incompetent renters to elite pvpers in SC or NC that are blackscreened and dying, any kill in eve is usually fail on the loser part, as if he wouldnt do any mistake, he wouldnt be dying.
And what PL/SECOVEN/CA have common depsite killing mostly incompetent but numerous people and alliances is that they are the last remainder that the whole renter system, that makes people hold space without working for it, without fighting for it, without protecting it, without playing the game as 0.0 sapce holding group should do, can be broken.
By every shitty alliance that is removed they get out the message to powerblocks, that there is still some danger outside of team north and team south. That despite everything no big alliance will care for the small one, so they have to learn to do it on their own. That your close friends are more than a huge alliance far away, that what counts is you and not waiting on outside help.
The protection of renters is part of the pay roll they giving Atlas/IT/AAA etc......if not, that these groups are only showing that the deal isnt what its supposed to be.
I do love choices and variety, and these groups bring a little bit of colour into the bl\ck/white universe of 0.0 in eve.
I will never be part of some big ass group, unless i would be there from the beginning, doesnt have for me the appeal to join say IT and than chestbeat on forums how superduper i am, when i have 500 people behind my backs without having done anything about it.
I do check eve from time to time on lended chars in Atlas/Cow. Solely play from playing too much before (4h a day for year or so) and virtually being fed up having to "work" in game, what was exciting at the beginning became dull in the end. Iam builder in game and outside of it, i like to shape things and helpt to steer to particular directions, thats why i like to be part of small or carebear groups that have the potentional to become something better, as this whole process is what i do truly love. Looking back and seeing what once was and what is now, is the power the drives my energy.
And also due to RL, new law practice, new bunch of companies, new girlfriend, lot of RL stuff and if i cant play 100% its not much fun for me, as iam not contributing.
But i will be back on my chars in time for the big showdown later this year, as there is still one promise i have given and i have to fullfill![]()
Hopefully more groups like Cursed begin popping up after seeing the success they've had. All renters need to die in order to help break up the "two large powerbloc" monotony of 0.0.
The renter system is great. Almost every region is full of retards that fly expensive faction-fitted faction ships. No need to hunt for officer or faction spawns to make bank.
He's a lawyer, remember?
Czech, dude...I don't think anyone on this board has given grief to any of the alliances you mention for going out there and hitting whatever targets they want. This is Eve, and everyone laughs when you crush a box of kittens with your panzer.
But when you praise the panzer because it is outnumbered by the kittens you are being illogical and intellectually dishonest and really annoying.
So cut it out, ok?
(And Roark, this isn't about you, no need to respond.)
Where have they chest beated? Taking this line you all make people stop posting about these events and the sideshows are the most interesting things in EVE just now - give it up fellas.
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
Well.. we didn't want those ships anyway hahaha :P
Cursed... i have to hand it to you.. that RR Domi fleet you got going there.. its awesome.. WTB...We did our best... got some bad warp ins and so on.. Couple of caps got tackled outside shield.. At the end it got really ugly...
I mean if you look at our fleet... its not bad fleet we are brining... but we couldn't do a shit against that tank... so anyway.. GF and goodnight![]()
All those bombers and you couldn't destroy some sentry drones?
Thanks for the fight lads.
So our tower in F3- was coming out of RF a 20:00 ET.
HTA/Volution&freinds were already waiting for us with gate bubbled, so we titan bridged in by our POS.
pew pew happened.
POS was saved and one of their large POS got RFed.
BR link http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4989
IMHO, picking on renters is just looking for targets of opportunity. Not looking for GF's nor will it break the power blocs. If anything, it'll make them stronger. When the "GF" happens, the weaker alliances who have decent pvp corps will start looking for a home who will provide them with good leadership and exprience. This is only found in the larger bloc coalitions/alliances.
I give Cursed Alliance props for actually picking a fight with Atlas and the larger alliances. They've done a great job of pushing space and trying to get fights. However, thinking that picking on targets of opportunity, such as renters will make power blocs weaker is ignorant.
The fight went on for over 5 hours. Not at any time did Cursed go against the entire (almost) 300 man fleet. Also, if you look closer, most of the deaths are SB's and the towers doing work rather than cursed actually engaging and blowing ships up.
Credit for putting together a 24 man RR Domi fleet...
So your saying they used their superior skill to outmaneuver the fleet and killed the stragglers, sounds like 5 hours of fun.
Noone gives you credit for any gf or any fight if you loose it. If you horrible or stellar, you will be laughed at in both occasion if you loose.
I think either of Cow/GC/Atlas will have to return home due to the coming invasion, with goons there will be a big US tz presence, and OEG/Cursed can nicely cover Euro tz.
Looking forward to Primary. using the Esoteria experience against goons.
What would Primary have learned other than how to fail at claiming sov, failing large fleet fights when outnumberng enemy, not using capitals, the list goes on. Maybe what to avoid?
On a less troll note, other than Atlas, do you believe that it will take only GC or COW or do you think both will head home to defend? Furthermore, the posts here don't seem to indicate things being too dire, can you give some more current events that would require a full recall home?
Couldn't agree more.
However, just looking at that KB report it looks more impressive than it is.
When you break it down, while yes... Atlas renters were very out played, the effort needed to do so was not as impressive. Cursed gets credit for putting on a good show. No doubt about that. However, a closer look reveals a lot more.
In the end both, as Cow is euro and gc us tz. The current lack of sov warfare from cursed is due to a) they cover 1 tz b) they dont really want or need any sov .
Scalding is very easily attackable, as wicked creek is, due to curse being close and having many stations you can base out of, short supply routes to mpire, and alliances living there, dont hav isk reserves to sustain a long term war.
As there are literrally no moons, Cow/GC/Primary/renters can really be isk bled out within weeks of intensive warfare to the point they cannot replace caps/towers/sbu´s/tcu´s/cap fuel etc, which is something that cannot happen to it or aaa or nc. So the strategy of scorched earth that wouldnt work on nc will work here.
The biggest problem i conquering space is finding those that will actually take it and live there. If goons/oeg/dreddit/hbd plan to take one region, which is angel, but not so bad (no moons though) but close to curse where you make lot of isk, than they have coverage of all timezones, which makes them really dangerous. As atm renters just prime for us tz, and cursed wont be assed to alarm clock it, as there is nothing bad at stake.
So renters get beaten in one timezone, than rep it up in another. Once someone will pressure them in every tz, they disintegrate like shit in a bathtube. Its about constant pressure, where you cant make isk, than you leave for other renter entities.
Plus count with PL coming for some cap rides once gc/cow and atlas bring caps out, and thats another big problem. And some drone elements despite the ? for atlas, wont hesistate to get insmother space, as its where ruskies made most of their isk anyway. SO thats more people interested in grabbing a piece of pie. Sooner or later it will require atlas coming back in full force anyway. There the point will be, how much atlas stands by cow/gc/primary./renters and where the line will be drawn.
If the war is funny and goons dont fuck up, more entities might jump on the bandwagon, just for the lack of targets in the north as IT without atlas/cow/gc is fucked and will be relocated in weeks.
tl:dr if goons will do only 50% invasion, it will destabilise whole scalding pass/wicked creek easily and they have really good chance to get the region.
I can only say this: fuck yeah, go shake up that south.
When did Goons become a threat again? Aren't they dead yet?![]()
I must say that I've always been a bit worried about putting the hole SC up in the north and open up for attacks in the south. You should always cover your back and SC aren't doing that right now. As you say.. we got the russians next to Insmother.. and you never know where you got them. If they see a chance they might stab Atlas in the back and push into Insmother.
NC has shown that even with the full force of the SC hitting them they can still hold their lines. With the morale boost that will give them they might get on the offensive and push SC back.
If I had anything to do with the planning of this roadtrip to the north I would pull back now.. get my defense ready.. rebuild and get ready for an attack from NC in Insmother/WC or Scalding Pass.
Well thats just my 2 cents
Any renting alliance leader who thinks that Atlas gives a fuck or wants to save them should refer to page five of this very thread:
That is undoubtedly very efficient for Atlas - it's frankly a very good idea from their point of view, and is the model that has worked for various Russian alliances for years - but the merry band of egoists who choose to become alliance leaders might not be happy to see themselves getting the boot.
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