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    Yeah props for the numbers you got and .. that's about it.
    I like your standards.

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    So... whats going on in F3? your not taking sov are you? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltd SpacePig View Post
    So... whats going on in F3? your not taking sov are you? :P
    We just moved to Insmother, close to Scalding and Wicked entries, and put SBUs to bring people there: http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4473
    Nearly same motivated guys as yesterday in F-QQ and another fun time, gf

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    Poor HTA.. well again.. to few BS:es and to much BC shit.. no wonder they die... it would been nice to take the fleet from last night against your fleet tonight.. that would been more of a fight
    Your doing good tho.. those Domi fleets are nasty :P

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    We decided to have a go in Insmother since HTA/Volution Cult seemed to want to have fun with us.
    We formed up a Domi fleet with a few RR BS etc and headed to F3-8X2.
    Anchored SBUs and RFed 3 small POS while our was onlining.
    HTA/Volution Cult came when there was a bout 15 min left on the SBUs

    http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4569

    Once they bailed we started to work on the TCU, till they came back briefly.
    Once TCU was dead we jumped in XO where around 30 ships were hugging F3 gate in a large buble.

    http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4581

    We then took a few potshots at N3 station then headed home.

    Thanks for the fight.

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    Tbh the renters should be paid for so much lolz in entertaining you, its almost unbelievable, how onesided fights can end.
    PL/SE+C0ven/Cursed+Darkside have my props for having fun in the south the outside while killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing It works even without the blob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    Tbh the renters should be paid for so much lolz in entertaining you, its almost unbelievable, how onesided fights can end.
    PL/SE+C0ven/Cursed+Darkside have my props for having fun in the south the outside while killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing It works even without the blob.
    Is there a link between Czech Lion's increasingly uber-l33t attitude and the fact that he doesn't log in anymore?

    I ask: YOU DECIDE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnes View Post
    Is there a link between Czech Lion's increasingly uber-l33t attitude and the fact that he doesn't log in anymore?

    I ask: YOU DECIDE!
    Is there a link between supporting those that fight outnumbered and those that have most of fun in eve novadays. And i like extreme situation where you have to give everything not just chill
    PS. Iam mediocre FC and underaverage solo pvper. But i do good speeches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    Is there a link between supporting those that fight outnumbered and those that have most of fun in eve novadays. And i like extreme situation where you have to give everything not just chill
    PS. Iam mediocre FC and underaverage solo pvper. But i do good speeches
    Go fight outnumbered against Cry Havoc and come tell us how much fun it was.

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    why single out cry havoc? you'll probably lose heavily outnumbered against most alliances unless its someone like BLAST or IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat libertarian View Post
    why single out cry havoc? you'll probably lose heavily outnumbered against most alliances unless its someone like BLAST or IT
    Very true, and also my point. You can have a lot of fun "killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing" but FFS don't try and convince us afterwards that your lack of numbers somehow adds to your glory.

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    We havent outnumbered a fleet since delve 2 over a year ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnes View Post
    Very true, and also my point. You can have a lot of fun "killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing" but FFS don't try and convince us afterwards that your lack of numbers somehow adds to your glory.
    To be entirely honest, I think we dont give a tiny rat ass about convincing anyone about anything.
    We play to have fun and, oh boy, we do have fun. Who cares about the glory tbh ? and
    most of all, who cares about what the others are thinking ? Surely not us.

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    You guys give plenty of care to what people think. Your posting(s) says as much.

    PS. You won't get any e-kudos from killing renters, no matter how outnumbered you are so lighten up on the posts yo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    no matter how outnumbered you are so lighten up on the posts yo.
    I dont remember pointing out we are outnumbered. ie last report and the report before that etc.
    But hey whatever floats your boat man.

    You won't get any e-kudos from killing renters
    Oh noes !!!! No point in logging in anymore .
    Seriously , we happily leave you the "omg i'm so leet" status

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    PS. You won't get any e-kudos from killing renters, no matter how outnumbered you are so lighten up on the posts yo.
    i personally agree with you but renters are all we can find several regions away so we have to manage with that. Our leaders tried to find a better challenge ( i heard once someone talking about Esoteria ) but our alliance is still young and i'm not sure this is something we are willing to do yet, i mean Curse and regions around are really a paradise for us providing good roamings and turkey shoot. (maybe no real challenge but so much fun!)

    I think we will get a challenge when a serious alliance will come to settle in WC or ScP or we will just have to wait for the return of Atlas & co (even if we can't do much against their cap blob).

    PS: that's for our situation right now, we had good fights before (i mean with some good opposition)

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    If it's all just for fun the who cares about their cap blob?

    Burnes is right in that
    You can have a lot of fun "killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing"
    but picking on small time renters in WC/ScP just makes you look like half ass'ed Tri rip offs.

    You guys are better then that...go find something real to shoot. I DEMAND/EXPECT more!!!!!

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    Someone wants to pay for my sub ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    PL/SE+C0ven/Cursed+Darkside have my props for having fun in the south the outside while killing incompetent people that shouldnt be playing .
    Hmm is that why you no longer login? but seriously, is it?

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    What a bunch of elitist tools and wankers.

    Cursed are havign fun ripping it up - and conducting a valuable service for those renters by hardening them up - and enjoying themselves to boot. Why don't you jealous die-hards fuck off and go kill someone without a blob behind YOU and try having fun while ur at it. They don't need your approbation to get stuck in - good job Cursed n friends - kill whoever you want to and die to whoever you want too - just have fun and fuck these aresholes giving you shit. A kill is a kill is a kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    You guys give plenty of care to what people think. Your posting(s) says as much.

    PS. You won't get any e-kudos from killing renters, no matter how outnumbered you are so lighten up on the posts yo.
    What difference it makes to kill what you describe incompetent renters to elite pvpers in SC or NC that are blackscreened and dying, any kill in eve is usually fail on the loser part, as if he wouldnt do any mistake, he wouldnt be dying.

    And what PL/SECOVEN/CA have common depsite killing mostly incompetent but numerous people and alliances is that they are the last remainder that the whole renter system, that makes people hold space without working for it, without fighting for it, without protecting it, without playing the game as 0.0 sapce holding group should do, can be broken.
    By every shitty alliance that is removed they get out the message to powerblocks, that there is still some danger outside of team north and team south. That despite everything no big alliance will care for the small one, so they have to learn to do it on their own. That your close friends are more than a huge alliance far away, that what counts is you and not waiting on outside help.

    The protection of renters is part of the pay roll they giving Atlas/IT/AAA etc......if not, that these groups are only showing that the deal isnt what its supposed to be.

    I do love choices and variety, and these groups bring a little bit of colour into the bl\ck/white universe of 0.0 in eve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrxinstall View Post
    Hmm is that why you no longer login? but seriously, is it?
    I will never be part of some big ass group, unless i would be there from the beginning, doesnt have for me the appeal to join say IT and than chestbeat on forums how superduper i am, when i have 500 people behind my backs without having done anything about it.

    I do check eve from time to time on lended chars in Atlas/Cow . Solely play from playing too much before (4h a day for year or so) and virtually being fed up having to "work" in game, what was exciting at the beginning became dull in the end. Iam builder in game and outside of it, i like to shape things and helpt to steer to particular directions, thats why i like to be part of small or carebear groups that have the potentional to become something better, as this whole process is what i do truly love. Looking back and seeing what once was and what is now, is the power the drives my energy.

    And also due to RL, new law practice, new bunch of companies, new girlfriend, lot of RL stuff and if i cant play 100% its not much fun for me, as iam not contributing.

    But i will be back on my chars in time for the big showdown later this year, as there is still one promise i have given and i have to fullfill

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    Hopefully more groups like Cursed begin popping up after seeing the success they've had. All renters need to die in order to help break up the "two large powerbloc" monotony of 0.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    What difference it makes to kill what you describe incompetent renters to elite pvpers in SC or NC that are blackscreened and dying, any kill in eve is usually fail on the loser part, as if he wouldnt do any mistake, he wouldnt be dying.

    And what PL/SECOVEN/CA have common depsite killing mostly incompetent but numerous people and alliances is that they are the last remainder that the whole renter system, that makes people hold space without working for it, without fighting for it, without protecting it, without playing the game as 0.0 sapce holding group should do, can be broken.
    By every shitty alliance that is removed they get out the message to powerblocks, that there is still some danger outside of team north and team south. That despite everything no big alliance will care for the small one, so they have to learn to do it on their own. That your close friends are more than a huge alliance far away, that what counts is you and not waiting on outside help.

    The protection of renters is part of the pay roll they giving Atlas/IT/AAA etc......if not, that these groups are only showing that the deal isnt what its supposed to be.

    I do love choices and variety, and these groups bring a little bit of colour into the bl\ck/white universe of 0.0 in eve.
    I don't care if they are having fun. It's the coming onto the forums and chest-beating about waxing some renters like they are some PvP elites.

    PS. You could have said everything in your post in 3 sentences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    I don't care if they are having fun. It's the coming onto the forums and chest-beating about waxing some renters like they are some PvP elites.

    PS. You could have said everything in your post in 3 sentences.
    Tell me who is than by your merit PvP elites and what have they done to be considered elite?

    PS. I know, but that wouldnt be me.

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    The renter system is great. Almost every region is full of retards that fly expensive faction-fitted faction ships. No need to hunt for officer or faction spawns to make bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    Tell me who is than by your merit PvP elites and what have they done to be considered elite?

    PS. I know, but that wouldnt be me.
    Nice deflection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    Nice deflection.
    He's a lawyer, remember?

    Czech, dude...I don't think anyone on this board has given grief to any of the alliances you mention for going out there and hitting whatever targets they want. This is Eve, and everyone laughs when you crush a box of kittens with your panzer.

    But when you praise the panzer because it is outnumbered by the kittens you are being illogical and intellectually dishonest and really annoying.

    So cut it out, ok?

    (And Roark, this isn't about you, no need to respond.)

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    Where have they chest beated? Taking this line you all make people stop posting about these events and the sideshows are the most interesting things in EVE just now - give it up fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cippalippus View Post
    Bahahahahaha - love ya work Cursed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cippalippus View Post
    Thats really Fucked up considering there are carriers on the field there that i presume were triaged.

    Fine, Cursed had more logistics and may have been running RR BS but in terms of numbers and shiptypes they should have lost that hard.
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    Well.. we didn't want those ships anyway hahaha :P

    Cursed... i have to hand it to you.. that RR Domi fleet you got going there.. its awesome.. WTB... We did our best... got some bad warp ins and so on.. Couple of caps got tackled outside shield.. At the end it got really ugly...

    I mean if you look at our fleet... its not bad fleet we are brining... but we couldn't do a shit against that tank... so anyway.. GF and goodnight

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    All those bombers and you couldn't destroy some sentry drones?

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    Thanks for the fight lads.

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    So our tower in F3- was coming out of RF a 20:00 ET.
    HTA/Volution&freinds were already waiting for us with gate bubbled, so we titan bridged in by our POS.
    pew pew happened.
    POS was saved and one of their large POS got RFed.

    BR link http://www.cursed-alliance.com/?a=ki...ed&kll_id=4989

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    I don't care if they are having fun. It's the coming onto the forums and chest-beating about waxing some renters like they are some PvP elites.

    PS. You could have said everything in your post in 3 sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roark Garnet View Post
    holly shit how many retarded fit ships, if i would spoke French i would honestly join cursed - as this km farming you guy's do in is just insane...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofSatan View Post
    Hopefully more groups like Cursed begin popping up after seeing the success they've had. All renters need to die in order to help break up the "two large powerbloc" monotony of 0.0.
    IMHO, picking on renters is just looking for targets of opportunity. Not looking for GF's nor will it break the power blocs. If anything, it'll make them stronger. When the "GF" happens, the weaker alliances who have decent pvp corps will start looking for a home who will provide them with good leadership and exprience. This is only found in the larger bloc coalitions/alliances.

    I give Cursed Alliance props for actually picking a fight with Atlas and the larger alliances. They've done a great job of pushing space and trying to get fights. However, thinking that picking on targets of opportunity, such as renters will make power blocs weaker is ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoryIsOur View Post
    holly shit how many retarded fit ships, if i would spoke French i would honestly join cursed - as this km farming you guy's do in is just insane...
    The fight went on for over 5 hours. Not at any time did Cursed go against the entire (almost) 300 man fleet. Also, if you look closer, most of the deaths are SB's and the towers doing work rather than cursed actually engaging and blowing ships up.

    Credit for putting together a 24 man RR Domi fleet...

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    So your saying they used their superior skill to outmaneuver the fleet and killed the stragglers, sounds like 5 hours of fun.

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    Noone gives you credit for any gf or any fight if you loose it. If you horrible or stellar, you will be laughed at in both occasion if you loose.

    I think either of Cow/GC/Atlas will have to return home due to the coming invasion, with goons there will be a big US tz presence, and OEG/Cursed can nicely cover Euro tz.
    Looking forward to Primary. using the Esoteria experience against goons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czech Lion View Post
    Noone gives you credit for any gf or any fight if you loose it. If you horrible or stellar, you will be laughed at in both occasion if you loose.

    I think either of Cow/GC/Atlas will have to return home due to the coming invasion, with goons there will be a big US tz presence, and OEG/Cursed can nicely cover Euro tz.
    Looking forward to Primary. using the Esoteria experience against goons.
    What would Primary have learned other than how to fail at claiming sov, failing large fleet fights when outnumberng enemy, not using capitals, the list goes on. Maybe what to avoid?

    On a less troll note, other than Atlas, do you believe that it will take only GC or COW or do you think both will head home to defend? Furthermore, the posts here don't seem to indicate things being too dire, can you give some more current events that would require a full recall home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xunasy View Post
    So your saying they used their superior skill to outmaneuver the fleet and killed the stragglers, sounds like 5 hours of fun.
    Couldn't agree more.

    However, just looking at that KB report it looks more impressive than it is.

    When you break it down, while yes... Atlas renters were very out played, the effort needed to do so was not as impressive. Cursed gets credit for putting on a good show. No doubt about that. However, a closer look reveals a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGE View Post
    What would Primary have learned other than how to fail at claiming sov, failing large fleet fights when outnumberng enemy, not using capitals, the list goes on. Maybe what to avoid?

    On a less troll note, other than Atlas, do you believe that it will take only GC or COW or do you think both will head home to defend? Furthermore, the posts here don't seem to indicate things being too dire, can you give some more current events that would require a full recall home?
    In the end both, as Cow is euro and gc us tz. The current lack of sov warfare from cursed is due to a) they cover 1 tz b) they dont really want or need any sov .

    Scalding is very easily attackable, as wicked creek is, due to curse being close and having many stations you can base out of, short supply routes to mpire, and alliances living there, dont hav isk reserves to sustain a long term war.

    As there are literrally no moons, Cow/GC/Primary/renters can really be isk bled out within weeks of intensive warfare to the point they cannot replace caps/towers/sbu´s/tcu´s/cap fuel etc, which is something that cannot happen to it or aaa or nc. So the strategy of scorched earth that wouldnt work on nc will work here.

    The biggest problem i conquering space is finding those that will actually take it and live there. If goons/oeg/dreddit/hbd plan to take one region, which is angel, but not so bad (no moons though) but close to curse where you make lot of isk, than they have coverage of all timezones, which makes them really dangerous. As atm renters just prime for us tz, and cursed wont be assed to alarm clock it, as there is nothing bad at stake.

    So renters get beaten in one timezone, than rep it up in another. Once someone will pressure them in every tz, they disintegrate like shit in a bathtube. Its about constant pressure, where you cant make isk, than you leave for other renter entities.

    Plus count with PL coming for some cap rides once gc/cow and atlas bring caps out, and thats another big problem. And some drone elements despite the ? for atlas, wont hesistate to get insmother space, as its where ruskies made most of their isk anyway. SO thats more people interested in grabbing a piece of pie. Sooner or later it will require atlas coming back in full force anyway. There the point will be, how much atlas stands by cow/gc/primary./renters and where the line will be drawn.

    If the war is funny and goons dont fuck up, more entities might jump on the bandwagon, just for the lack of targets in the north as IT without atlas/cow/gc is fucked and will be relocated in weeks.

    tl:dr if goons will do only 50% invasion, it will destabilise whole scalding pass/wicked creek easily and they have really good chance to get the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGE View Post
    Furthermore, the posts here don't seem to indicate things being too dire, can you give some more current events that would require a full recall home?
    There will likely be a full recall:

    Quote Originally Posted by Darius Johnson
    Goons, a lot has transpired the past few months. Some of it was good. Some of it was bad. All of it done with the overarching goal of trying to re-establish some of our swagger. We embarked on a series of offensive maneuvers which comprised of us taking a spiritual journey through the regions which served as a foundation for our past successes. The general idea was that we would perform a vision quest of sorts to help us remember who we were as Goons without all of the fluffery that being a major 0.0 power was comprised of. Before we were to embark on that path again we had to relearn a lot of what we'd forgotten not just insofar as running an alliance or being a member of one, but about who we are and why we're here. When broken down into the sum total of our parts we are not and never were the behemoth who owned Delve... we were the pile of raucous faggots who conquered it in the first place, the foundations of which were all seated in a land called Syndicate.

    Having taken Cloud Ring we then proceeded on the second leg of our journey. Here we lived under the auspices of our brosefs farting around essentially headless, integrating into their fleets and remember what we dislike about the status quo as well as a bit of what we like about the game. This certainly does not apply to everyone, but there was a period of relative serenity where we no longer had to be concerned with daily survival, a thing which is both a blessing and a curse as we grow fat and lazy from our sloth and underuse. Sure it's cool to help fight someone else's war. Sure it's nice to be helping brosefs but where does that road lead us? Where are we headed as an alliance? Where lies the fun? Where is the destruction of other people's shit and the tears?

    The answer to those questions lies now in the next leg of our journey to another ancestral homeland. The motherland of Scalding pass where Goons finally established our swagger lies covered in terrible renter alliances. Atlas has literally become a less competent LV, and provides us with the perfect opportunity to establish new bonds of friendship and usher in a second age of Goon power in space. We will root out these pets where they live and we will mouthfuck them unmercifully. This also aids the NC as with their homelands considered safe these shitheels can send fleets at their leisure to bolster "The SC's" horribly managed monsterfleets.

    Beginning Monday we will move combat operations to xx9 in Curse. From there we will work with our brosefs Cursed, OEG and Dreddit to remind Atlas's pets why they are paying rent. We will cleanse the south of the stain that desecrates this Goon mecca and we will once again remember what it is to work together, hand in hand with brosefs and newbies, in order to establish a New Goon Order in the south. Dread reimbursement in full is back in place for this operation. I cannot stress enough that while EVERY SHIP COUNTS, it will be the number of Battleships and Logistics ships that will serve to cement our dominance so I will do my best to incentivize their frequent use via reimbursements and market seeds.

    Details insofar as logistical routes will be posted between now and deployment day. Spend the weekend MAKING MONEY so that you can afford what you need. We will run caravans but the bulk of what you need should be purchased nearer to the theater. We ARE NOT abandoning DKUK. This is your jew vacation home for now away from the front. We will conquer space only as necessary to remove the insurgent faggots who live there or as will demands. There will be logistics chains set up for capitals and I HIGHLY encourage squads and small groups to work together to help people transport combat ships as there is spare space.

    I am truly looking forward to this endeavour and there is solid support and excitement within the leadership for the first time in a while to see it happen. Mister Vee is your skymarshal for this engagement and I will do my best to be around regularly as I have a hankering to kill some atlas faggots myself. I hope you are all as excited as we are. I will see you Monday.

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    I can only say this: fuck yeah, go shake up that south.

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    When did Goons become a threat again? Aren't they dead yet?

    I must say that I've always been a bit worried about putting the hole SC up in the north and open up for attacks in the south. You should always cover your back and SC aren't doing that right now. As you say.. we got the russians next to Insmother.. and you never know where you got them. If they see a chance they might stab Atlas in the back and push into Insmother.

    NC has shown that even with the full force of the SC hitting them they can still hold their lines. With the morale boost that will give them they might get on the offensive and push SC back.

    If I had anything to do with the planning of this roadtrip to the north I would pull back now.. get my defense ready.. rebuild and get ready for an attack from NC in Insmother/WC or Scalding Pass.

    Well thats just my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltd SpacePig View Post
    When did Goons become a threat again? Aren't they dead yet?

    I must say that I've always been a bit worried about putting the hole SC up in the north and open up for attacks in the south. You should always cover your back and SC aren't doing that right now. As you say.. we got the russians next to Insmother.. and you never know where you got them. If they see a chance they might stab Atlas in the back and push into Insmother.

    NC has shown that even with the full force of the SC hitting them they can still hold their lines. With the morale boost that will give them they might get on the offensive and push SC back.

    If I had anything to do with the planning of this roadtrip to the north I would pull back now.. get my defense ready.. rebuild and get ready for an attack from NC in Insmother/WC or Scalding Pass.

    Well thats just my 2 cents
    Looking at the participation in SC-Fleets in the North, i think it's save to say the majority of the SC is in the South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    I can only say this: fuck yeah, go shake up that south.
    I can't speak for other SP/WP residents, but I'm looking forward to this much more than fighting lagfests in the North.

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    Any renting alliance leader who thinks that Atlas gives a fuck or wants to save them should refer to page five of this very thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    go kill some of our renters,

    gives us an excuse to form them into one giant super alliance when they all start to separately failcascade.
    That is undoubtedly very efficient for Atlas - it's frankly a very good idea from their point of view, and is the model that has worked for various Russian alliances for years - but the merry band of egoists who choose to become alliance leaders might not be happy to see themselves getting the boot.

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