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    Quote Originally Posted by BobFromMarketing View Post
    I know you guys are rather desensitized to losing titans but to most of eve losing a titan in build and then a large pile of ships while not only not gaining ground but losing it, is considered a loss.
    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenDaemon View Post
    Speaking of CSAA's, those in JGAMP were saved w/ no resistance. Afterwords, FIO had SBU's removed and IHUB repped. Station comes out of armor later tonight.
    This is what pisses me off to no end. The SC continually reinforces towers, and then... nothing.

    It's not even a case of "Oh they dropped 600 in system, we'll go hit something else". There are simply no posted fleets to finish towers that we reinforce. We just keep bleeding battleships, while completely failing to commit to any goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewIW View Post
    This is what pisses me off to no end. The SC continually reinforces towers, and then... nothing.

    It's not even a case of "Oh they dropped 600 in system, we'll go hit something else". There are simply no posted fleets to finish towers that we reinforce. We just keep bleeding battleships, while completely failing to commit to any goal.
    Shh dude don't post like that. AJ Regard will declare you a member of the NC posing as a member of the SC. No SC member could be so jaded! You guys are blazing a path through the north!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobFromMarketing View Post
    Shh dude don't post like that. AJ Regard will declare you a member of the NC posing as a member of the SC. No SC member could be so jaded! You guys are blazing a path through the north!
    He is my second forum char, in a minute I will create a third one and then start arguing with myself.

    PS: Would be nice of he stated which alliance he was actually from , but guess its easier going "I am SC".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewIW View Post
    This is what pisses me off to no end. The SC continually reinforces towers, and then... nothing.

    It's not even a case of "Oh they dropped 600 in system, we'll go hit something else". There are simply no posted fleets to finish towers that we reinforce. We just keep bleeding battleships, while completely failing to commit to any goal.
    If you dont have a stated goal you cant lose face, given its easy to manufacture a victory event for morale and then withdraw and say 'mission accomplished' if you need to its no surprise there is no serious goal being spoken about.

    As for reinforcing towers and then not killing them, that's either an organizational issue, poor communication between corps and Alliance/Coalition FC's or someone has the retarded idea that a war of attrition is a good idea.
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    We are not anywhere close to something that could resemble a "victory" in this campaign so far, even I am not that delusional

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Regard View Post
    He is my second forum char, in a minute I will create a third one and then start arguing with myself.

    PS: Would be nice of he stated which alliance he was actually from , but guess its easier going "I am SC".
    Atlas.

    The alliance who's participation dropped so sharply, and whose allies gave up so readily, that we had to go join up with AAA to get fleets of a decent size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewIW View Post
    Atlas.

    The alliance who's participation dropped so sharply, and whose allies gave up so readily, that we had to go join up with AAA to get fleets of a decent size.
    Finally, a straight shooter.. But you guys are shit anyways so no matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston View Post
    Finally, a straight shooter.. But you guys are shit anyways so no matter
    Come at me bro

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    This war makes me picture a bunch of blind retarded kids swinging swords around hoping to hit something.

    At least with Kenzoku, even their last failed attempt to take H74 near the end had planning and co-ordination. There is none of that here at all.

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    The fact that I've used Kenzoku as an example of a better way to do something says a lot.

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    the reason people arent showing up to kill reinforced towers is because people arent stupid enough any more to jump into a system with an enemy fleet already in it, without significant reinforcements or the home advantage.

    sc wont jump into a nc reinforced tower system with nc already in it, nc wont jump into an sc reinforced tower system with sc in it.

    difference is the nc can avoid the system while the sc is in it, but then come back immediately and reinforce their tower again. (see: P3EN)

    add infinitum

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    Hey I love this idea here.. let's everyone in the SC pile up.. organize into 1 massive fleet. Let's go straight into a system and man are we gonna f*ck with it 23/7 There won't be an hour that we don't have a presence there and it would be insane for the NC to jump into us. We'll even make it like a camping trip on TS, telling stories to pass the time and roast e-marshmellows with CAOD flamez.

    And in the time we are taking this ONE SYSTEM, the NC can ref and destroy every moon that's been taken in PB, as well as start fucking with Cry Havoc/Ev0ke sov.

    I hate this f*cking system

    Is anyone in the new CSM elections running on the basis of blasting the sov system and starting anew... AGAIN?



    As for "victories." It will be hard to come by to actually create victories for the SC. As I mentioned before, things will only get easy and one sided if the NC stops caring completely which I don't see happening. If NC spin doctors want to make this their win then so be it.. but I'm going to go ahead and facepalm over this game and hope once again a new development cycle in the next year or two brings better things.

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    So sov warfare doesn't work (game mechanics), POS warfare doesn't work (above post), regular fights doesn't work (node death). Why exactly are you there again?

    e: Fuck, well not above post I guess, I meant Aurora's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay On Target View Post
    Hey I love this idea here.. let's everyone in the SC pile up.. organize into 1 massive fleet. Let's go straight into a system and man are we gonna f*ck with it 23/7 There won't be an hour that we don't have a presence there and it would be insane for the NC to jump into us. We'll even make it like a camping trip on TS, telling stories to pass the time and roast e-marshmellows with CAOD flamez.

    And in the time we are taking this ONE SYSTEM, the NC can ref and destroy every moon that's been taken in PB, as well as start fucking with Cry Havoc/Ev0ke sov.

    I hate this f*cking system

    Is anyone in the new CSM elections running on the basis of blasting the sov system and starting anew... AGAIN?



    As for "victories." It will be hard to come by to actually create victories for the SC. As I mentioned before, things will only get easy and one sided if the NC stops caring completely which I don't see happening. If NC spin doctors want to make this their win then so be it.. but I'm going to go ahead and facepalm over this game and hope once again a new development cycle in the next year or two brings better things.
    I make a conscious choice not to read anything posted by someone who voluntarily censors themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    sc wont jump into a nc reinforced tower system with nc already in it
    SC also won't jump into an EMPTY NC reinforced system, because there are no fleets, and leadership forgot about the tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    the reason people arent showing up to kill reinforced towers is because people arent stupid enough any more to jump into a system with an enemy fleet already in it, without significant reinforcements or the home advantage.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrewIW View Post
    It's not even a case of "Oh they dropped 600 in system, we'll go hit something else". There are simply no posted fleets to finish towers that we reinforce. We just keep bleeding battleships, while completely failing to commit to any goal.

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    The USTZ of the SC is extremely weak, in terms of numbers. Surprise surprise we aren't able to achieve much in that timezone. The towers that come out in Euro have a decent chance of a big fight and swapping hands. USTZ routinely runs ops and participates in handbag fights with the NC until their numbers inflate beyond our ability to engage, then we take a straw poll of whether or not to just DIAF or leave the system to swap out to something more maneuverable and run a smaller roam or kill straglers and tards in H-W. It's not rocket science.

    PS. You all bitch too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    PS. You all bitch too much.
    come back to me honey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post
    Baby come back, you can blame it all on me
    fuck me you post round the clock. is there fourm account sharing happening here because thats against the rulez

    :awaiting your response:

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I make a conscious choice not to read anything posted by someone who voluntarily censors themselves.
    my apologies.. i'm not used to the rules around here.

    that said.. to continue on my last point, the NC won't get victory either because the SC is just too damn stubborn.. so fighting pretty much won't stop until the game explodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay On Target View Post
    my apologies.. i'm not used to the rules around here.
    Basically if you use the same password for your forum account as you do with your email account used to register, then you forfeit all information passed through your email to kugu, hope this helps

    ;| ;\ bahhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    If you dont have a stated goal you cant lose face, given its easy to manufacture a victory event for morale and then withdraw and say 'mission accomplished' if you need to its no surprise there is no serious goal being spoken about.

    As for reinforcing towers and then not killing them, that's either an organizational issue, poor communication between corps and Alliance/Coalition FC's or someone has the retarded idea that a war of attrition is a good idea.
    The goal has already been set as destroying the NC, the face is unsavable!

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    my SC friends I have some super secret news to share with you, I would go with usual channels but cant right now..

    special report is as follows, FIO1-8 is coming out of reinforced, we have CTA'd your CTA so dont bother showing up as there will be black screen death and rage for you

    this message will self destruct in 5... 4.... 3... 2.. 1.....

    transfer my fee to the usual wallet

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekscru View Post
    fuck me you post round the clock. is there fourm account sharing happening here because thats against the rulez

    :awaiting your response:
    iPhone bro and have a shity boring job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post
    iPhone bro and have a shity boring job.
    yea i know. got any ideas how too make eve online not shit dastimoney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post
    Baby come back, you can blame it all on me
    Actually, this appears to be a line from the ultra-massive Hall & Oates and the sadness filled song "Baby Come Back". c/d


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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    The goal has already been set as destroying the NC, the face is unsavable!
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.
    Not empty quoting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.
    This might be the worst analysis of the war so far, maybe except that one -A- guy who was hilarious, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pripyat View Post
    Tri/Init/ROL/ev0ke/Co2/CH alone managed to get 500 ppl into P-2 when they took the Outpost in January. So apparently SuperTwinkey was better in coordinating several entities than Molle
    That was actually Endeva who did the coordinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.
    You better hurry up because the world is ending in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacul View Post
    That was actually Endeva who did the coordinating.
    Probably, i was just never able to understand Endevas harblgarbl in Northern Command while Twinkey always made sense especially when he started randomly banning allied FCs from the chat. Shit was so cash

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    Endevas is very understandable if you've had at least four pints of bitter. Otherwise, you must resort to vodka or a couple of bowls then that special part of your mind needed to understand GarbleSpeak shall be opened wide.

    Twinkey banned me once and I wasn't even an FC dammit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay On Target View Post
    my apologies.. i'm not used to the rules around here.

    that said.. to continue on my last point, the NC won't get victory either because the SC is just too damn stubborn.. so fighting pretty much won't stop until the game explodes.
    I'm actually of the opinion that nobody in this war will win. If the SC actually pushes the NC out, that's the only real marker for an Eve victory apart from the NC booting the SC out of the South. If neither coalition pushes the other out then the game will continue to stagnate. Since we all know the NC can't do offensive campaigns, I guess the only victory for the game is if the SC pushes out the NC!

    Also, people stating it was the smartest move by the NC to pay PL to go South is backwards. It's PL that was smart in waiting to separate the NC from some ISK to get paid to do something they would have done anyway. PL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    I'm actually of the opinion that nobody in this war will win. If the SC actually pushes the NC out, that's the only real marker for an Eve victory apart from the NC booting the SC out of the South. If neither coalition pushes the other out then the game will continue to stagnate. Since we all know the NC can't do offensive campaigns, I guess the only victory for the game is if the SC pushes out the NC!

    Also, people stating it was the smartest move by the NC to pay PL to go South is backwards. It's PL that was smart in waiting to separate the NC from some ISK to get paid to do something they would have done anyway.
    Oddly enough, I actually agree with this post. Although, i don't view nullsec as quite as stagnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    Also, people stating it was the smartest move by the NC to pay PL to go South is backwards. It's PL that was smart in waiting to separate the NC from some ISK to get paid to do something they would have done anyway. PL!
    I think that makes them both smart. It was smart to set PL off by paying. Who knows when PL would have decided to do what they are doing. And as you said it was smart for PL to wait.

    PL is SMAT!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.
    You're really quite retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston View Post
    Actually, this appears to be a line from the ultra-massive Hall & Oates and the sadness filled song "Baby Come Back". c/d

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    How to make eve fun? Remove the standings tab and have sov warfare based on multiple objectives spread out all over a region that have to be hit at the same time. Say 5 things and whoever destroys or saves 3/5 wins the system with 1 reenforcement timer that has to be manualy set.

    Also this renter shit is the dark ages of eve. Serfdom in this millenia, only ccp could pull that off

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.
    It always puzzles me when people use the word pubbie outside of a Goon context. What exactly do you think it means here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotheberlock View Post
    It always puzzles me when people use the word pubbie outside of a Goon context. What exactly do you think it means here?
    I believe he / they think it means "newbie" or "general proletariat"
    Easy way to spot retards & trolls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    I'm actually of the opinion that nobody in this war will win. If the SC actually pushes the NC out, that's the only real marker for an Eve victory apart from the NC booting the SC out of the South. If neither coalition pushes the other out then the game will continue to stagnate. Since we all know the NC can't do offensive campaigns, I guess the only victory for the game is if the SC pushes out the NC!
    Dude I'm pretty certain that if the SC's war to destroy the NC fails to even dent the NC then the winners will be, well, the NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastommy View Post

    Also this renter shit is the dark ages of eve. Serfdom in this millenia, only ccp could pull that off
    This coming from Atlas is pretty hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    No one going into this war had any illusions it would be over quickly, the NC spin doctors attempt to put a time frame on the good guys progress to give their pubbies motivation that their efforts are not wasted.

    Those players who aligned with the NC for the illusion of safety in numbers will continue to be the hunted in their own backyard.

    bottomline, NC territories and pilots are under siege. Any battles won by the NC are just putting on more bandages to slow the bleeding of NC resources.
    Look at how dumb you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post
    Dude I'm pretty certain that if the SC's war to destroy the NC fails to even dent the NC then the winners will be, well, the NC.
    I think you are completely missing the point of my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsaber View Post
    sending 50 guys while you use your other 300 to anchor SBu's in ((( E-O ))) [wtf?] is not support

    What's that? The entities that make up the Southern Coalition are bad allies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Fuck You View Post
    Look at how dumb you are.
    Takes a retard to spot one i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    I'm actually of the opinion that nobody in this war will win. If the SC actually pushes the NC out, that's the only real marker for an Eve victory apart from the NC booting the SC out of the South. If neither coalition pushes the other out then the game will continue to stagnate. Since we all know the NC can't do offensive campaigns, I guess the only victory for the game is if the SC pushes out the NC!
    I don't understand this "when the NC dies eve will be better" ideology. Can anyone actually explain how exactly eve will be any better or different when the NC is gone?

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