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Who needs this kind of half-arsed psy-ops shit when you're already winning all of the important fleet battles? It seems to me that it would be better to try and keep baiting AAA into casual form-ups until they end up over-committing something expensive, rather than trying to get them to move to LGK again for the billionth time.
Its getting so fucking old now "once you have killed us you will have no one else to fight"
Yes, yes we will. You will be replaced with a new gaggle of faggots to shoot, and just like you they will cry the same thing as they die. I know hes talking about HBC but fuck me that's all us and Test have been hearing for the last 5 campaigns.
Get over yourself
Only after the last sov has been taken,
Only after the last leet alliance has failscaded,
Only after the super has been caught,
Only then will you find that isk cannot be eaten.
I don't get the fits -A- uses in their tornado fleets. This: https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=813921 seems to be pretty standard. Is there some rational behind using these that I don't get and have they used them with any success?
You faggots brought the blueballs on yourself. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
Remember the Maine.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
I think we should all just sit on the sidelines while Tribe and THORN run wild on the north.
No one will miss FCOON or SMA.
Gentleman's yesterday in hostiles staging system where they have ods 4 to 1 all the time we were camping them and fighting them from 14:00 eve time to 22:00 eve time, that is 8 hours.Yes we lost about 80 ships (like 8 bilion in ships/pods) and we killed like 190 ships like 7 bilion in ship/pods, but in HOSTILE STAGING SYSTEM.And it is not 3-4 fleets it is 1 fleet with constant 40 ppl.You were able to change formats , to use frig hulls, to use bombers, to use caps on station in 1 moment you were holding 6 carriers and 5 dreads, etc etc..
IN ANY MOMENT i could command to ppl to cloak up and to not fights your frig formats, and to make 2 bilion in kills and 500 milion in loses for that 8 hours and to keep your fleets all day up, BUT I DINT WANT THAT.Whatever format you use and you use mostly 120 frig hulls format i was fighting you , and you smack that local 8 hours like pros.I give fun to mine ppl and to your ppl, but some ppl on both sides lost sense for game and for game purpose.
All kills loses cannot be shown in 1 link but will try mine best.
About flamers and stupid ppl from your and mine side.If any of you so fucking pro pvp players and FCs hold some fleet in hostile staging system not 8 hours , 80 fucking minutes and fight ods 4 to 1 and have this result i will give he fucking gold medal.
mine 2 dinars
rifters defeated by cloaky nados, news at 11
In these kind of wars you always have those weak minded people that can't really wrap their brain around any kind of long term strategy. We are in month two of what i expect to be a very long and bloody war. This is not a war that has been won by any side yet and if you really think that -A- is beaten now and that HBC already won then you just don't get it. Then your are like this guy http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/fi...complished.jpg
I think HBC sends a very clear message with this new fleet of theirs.. they don't wont any fights. They will only want fights when they can have carrier support and the possibility to drop dreads. When did you last see a large fight in 4-07? Mmm that's right.. it doesn't happen anymore.. why? because every time TEST comes into 4-07 with a large fleet and no cap support they tend to die in large numbers.
By boring us out with this tactic they hope to make us stop attacking their space and get their much needed break and a possibility to isk up. I don't care how cool you think your alliances are.. but after 3 months of constant fleets and heavy losses people tend to get tired.
Other than Lee Chanka's tornado gangs this is usually how -A- fleets work:
- Shoot and incap/destroy the 5V jump bridge
- Head towards K-6
- See a HBC fleet forming (whichever doctrine)
- Run back to 4-0
- Reship to tengus
- Shadoo calls for FoxCats
- Dock, Disband fleet, Logoff
-A- are an incredibly risk adverse alliance, you can see it in their fits, you can see it in their strategy and you can hear it in the soundclouds. -A- won't take a fight or use a doctrine unless they think they can do so without losing more than a couple of ships. You can see this in the post by "SoCo" above me, "You bought ships that can kill us so we aren't going to fight". When it was 100mn tengus vs Rokhs there would be fights because -A- could get away with minimal losses and it was the HBC engaging at a disadvantage, now the tables have turned -A- isn't taking fights and their numbers are falling.
My point is keeping them around for "goodfights" is doesn't make sense.
But ok -- normally we don't come to 4-0, nor will we come to 4-0 because we're not contesting Catch -- we're not dropping SBUs, nor are we RFing any towers/JBs/etc. We don't have to -- YOU are on self-proclaimed counterattack and according to PK at least you're doing GREAT at it. You /were/ RFing structures and dropping SBUs in 3 of our regions at the same time until it seems this week anyway, so our stance can be defensive.
Lee Chanka seems to have more clue about alliance sov wars than you do -- there's a recording out there with him saying exactly the same thing. If we come to 4-0, we will come for the whole region and THEN it's a very different ballgame.
Re: long term strategy view -- time is not always going to be your friend.
I agree with you that we should quit these supposed offensives and start roaming in much smaller gangs in Delve, Querious, PB. The results would be so much better then what we have at the moment. But people tend to go to Providence still, or even worst K-6 ... it's some kind of tradition I guess.
I think -A- leadership is giving us a break and we will return to strike Querious sov. But hey I'm a grunt, I dont know what people are planning. In the meanwhile I'm filling my pockets and waiting...
Your FCs are incompetent
Your manpower is useless if they don't do anything with it
Your fits are terrible (cloak on a tornado, really?)
I think even with a decent strategy/leadership you would be hard pressed to field the numbers and ships required.
We sat watching what I believe was 2 neo moons come out of reinforce a few days ago, the HBC dropped around 33 supers and an assortment of 80 carriers/dreads just for a couple of moons, after hearing about (and experiencing some of) how most of the soco is 'structured' I don't believe there is any chance of them gaining the level of organisation needed to even dent anything.
One of the most, if not the most cap heavy alliances has allied itself with one of the largest number wise and they've then surrounded themselves with several other smaller alliances with various levels of participation/capitals; there is literally nothing anyone can do to contest the regions they currently hold without some sort of miracle super coalition being made between soco and other entities in the north, which then would probably see GSF and the rest of the CFC involved and spawn a war similar to the BoB saga.
This thread is actually worse than the northern thread. Is anything actually going on down in shit land or are both parties just shooting each other on Kugutsumen.com
I don't think the average -a- pilot is useless but their leadership sure is and handicaps any potential they may have.
I think even securitas would swap out the normal spear he has in his mouth for one of those.
This is the stage in the war when bluster turns to confusion. You can see it in a few posts on the past couple of pages, sometimes he's all out going to KILL ALL THE THINGS, other times he's dumping morale like he ate bad mexican food. Or maybe an actual Mexican, I dunno with this guy.
People like this are accurate measurement devices, it's why alliance leaders so often tell their people to stay off the forums. If you take a SoCoalist's posts and graph them, you'll have a perfect image of the progress of a war. Right now he's on the downswing, half bluster, half "we're not all in it," or "we could do it if we REALLY try, but we're not really trying."
He has no access to what leadership is up to, so he's like a thermometer for the temperature of the average grunt. And the HBC appreciates it.
Keep posting, brave warrior.
[Arrador] possesses a considerable understanding of ship configurations, strengths and weakness. He gives clear and purposeful instructions, is good at taking advantage of the fleet-composition he's dealt, and never loses sight of the main goal: fun. This, paired with an excellent tolerance for strong drink gives him an almost Churchillian capability to win, despite being completely pissed on booze most of the fleet operation.