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    I find it strange Alex, as someone with access to the Goon forums, you should know perfectly well that Goons have admitted publicly and privately we withdrew from the east to prep for Dominion. It's not a big secret. Nor is it a big secret that IT plans to attack Delve when Dominion releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scavok
    We didn't invade your space simply because we couldn't find anyone we trusted enough to manage the amount of pos required in hostile space. Every piece of space we did attack was taken. Once we felt that we didn't have enough time to take detorid/fake insmother before the big patch we left, as there wasn't much point in staying since you would never attack us while we were still there and we weren't going to attack you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Scalding Pass and Wicked Creek:
    Razor have pulled out of their part of Scalding Pass completely, as of today. While evacuating capital ships they got hotdropped and lost at least 18 of them to Against ALl Authorities and Red.Overlord. They also killed three of the attacking caps so good job there...
    To clarify slightly:
    Moving op was scheduled for 18:00, most people had gotten in fleet and were waiting spinning ships in station for about 20 minutes. ROL BS gang of around 40+ had been reported in the area earlier.
    At some point, we suddenly get told to undock and jump to a cyno and on arrival realise we were c. 20km off a Razr pos, engaging a few ROL caps/bs gang.

    Situation smelled like obvious bait but FC orders to go siege green, people start shooting semi-random targets (we fait at shooting primary) and new cyno goes up with the "unexpected" 2nd wave of ROL caps.
    At that point, people are told to go siege red and basically take it up like men and wait for the opportunity to jump out. Only reason we did not lose the whole fleet was that fight took place in low-sec

    tl;dr: we did not get ganked while moving but FC willingly jumped into obvious bait situation. Not sure which one is worst

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomAtlasMember View Post
    Good stuff, been reading this for quite awhile, great to hear other sides perspective.

    Anyone have any info on what RA's move will be to rebuild, since it seems that it's dead. What kind of propaganda is it telling its members to keep them involved when they have issues gathering fleets? How does xix feel carrying it as dead weight?

    COAD troll posts claim RA will rebuild, and they tell their members that "well we've been through worse before, so stick with us", is that still the motto?
    RandomRaMember here
    Cant remember when we had "issues" gathering fleets. zombies are too submissive to their masters, you know

    also, even CAOD troll post was stronger than this

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    some pics of the fight in PB



    [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QmauB.gif[/IMG]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    <Scavok Quote>
    Was that in response to me? Because nothing Scavok said there goes against what I said. He clearly says we didn't stay because we knew we didn't have time to do what we wanted pre-Dominion. It's obvious we went home to give ourselves time to prep for the patch and get ready for the now completely obvious IT clown car attack that will hit Delve post sov change over.

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    does this thread count toward clom points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektrea View Post
    some pics of the fight in PB
    stop whoring on dreads and shoot support like he told you

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    Jesus christ, NC's been hot dropped like three days running.

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    A minor correction to Alex's latest update. PL took the Prom moon in x-7 the previous day. That fight resulted in 11 NC dead caps along with about 200 PL and NC BS and support. NC did the hot drop that night.

    Last night's fight started with the NC destroying one POS and reinforcing the (now PL owned) Prom Moon POS in x-7. It ended with alot of dead stuff at the 4-3 station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    stop whoring on dreads and shoot support like he told you
    It took me like 8 minutes to kill this fucker

    [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QmauB.gif[/IMG]

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    ^^EXIT bomber squad is best squad.

    We had alot of fun bombing dictors, inties, and caps silly through the entire fight.

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    i'm assuming IRC is currently in membership/space limbo, with not enough members to do anything nor does it have any clout in any major alliance to become a pet/get free space to reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ansecos View Post
    i'm assuming IRC is currently in membership/space limbo, with not enough members to do anything nor does it have any clout in any major alliance to become a pet/get free space to reform.
    IRC died when Oldma ran that poorly fitted ship to it's death with billions in BPO's. The irony is that RA/Goons, et all, chose the WRONG alliance to pressure when they decided to break the cease fire, by attacking ED. ED didn't break when they took systems in the Loop, nor when they took the whole Loop, and fought their way back to reconquer almost all of it again. The failure happened when IRC collapsed literally in 36 hours when the supposedly unconquerable SLYP-5 constellation was hit.

    Had they hit IRC instead of ED, it would have been over in 2 weeks instead of 3+ months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderKnight View Post
    IRC died when Oldma ran that poorly fitted ship to it's death with billions in BPO's. The irony is that RA/Goons, et all, chose the WRONG alliance to pressure when they decided to break the cease fire, by attacking ED. ED didn't break when they took systems in the Loop, nor when they took the whole Loop, and fought their way back to reconquer almost all of it again. The failure happened when IRC collapsed literally in 36 hours when the supposedly unconquerable SLYP-5 constellation was hit.

    Had they hit IRC instead of ED, it would have been over in 2 weeks instead of 3+ months.
    Sounds like belated begging for a quick death to me. And I'm pretty sure that at least the NC alliances that initially came for you were quite contend it wasn't over after 2 weeks already. In fact, it would've been over shortly after ME took ED's Vale outpost. (Cease fire started on 03/26, RA came for you on the 30th and ME shot ED-POSes in LS-JEP on 04/11). Thx4dagf's 'n' all that, y'know.
    Neither your FC's, directors, etc. could've tried to spin it like "Oh lookse how we deliberatly stepped out of the naptrain..."
    Not to say that goons didn't put pressure on anyone except for the final 1 or two weeks when it was about IRC already.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaclypse View Post
    Sounds like belated begging for a quick death to me. And I'm pretty sure that at least the NC alliances that initially came for you were quite contend it wasn't over after 2 weeks already. In fact, it would've been over shortly after ME took ED's Vale outpost. (Cease fire started on 03/26, RA came for you on the 30th and ME shot ED-POSes in LS-JEP on 04/11). Thx4dagf's 'n' all that, y'know.
    Neither your FC's, directors, etc. could've tried to spin it like "Oh lookse how we deliberatly stepped out of the naptrain..."
    Not to say that goons didn't put pressure on anyone except for the final 1 or two weeks when it was about IRC already.
    Let's not rehash this stupid shit... AGAIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartCo View Post
    Let's not rehash this stupid shit... AGAIN.
    Agreed, its dead and its buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghstmarauder View Post
    Agreed, its dead and its buried.
    then stop bumping it.

    i'm probably gonna stop reporting cap fights. there was another "so many dreads dead it was amazing, all caps are replaced, gf to all, we'll get you next time " type mutual masturbation between the A-team and rzr/pl/goons over a CoW moon. people died. someone held field. someone didn't. eh.

    can't wait for dominion to hit and people stop using that as their excuse to do nothing except siege an r64 here and there

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    Mother of Christ, if you insist on posting screenshots to forums, resize them so they don't send everything cockeyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    i'm probably gonna stop reporting cap fights. there was another "so many dreads dead it was amazing, all caps are replaced, gf to all, we'll get you next time " type mutual masturbation between the A-team and rzr/pl/goons over a CoW moon. people died. someone held field. someone didn't. eh.
    I have always liked this thread to be a general overview of 0.0 politics / events / movements and future predictions or speculations and some bit of pr0n rather than some single (which of course might have some impact) battle reports (what is this sudden influx of SHC posters and style?) with random screenshots.

    People should use some BattleDB (if its still alive) or SHC for that and not his thread..

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    Except that's what 0.0 is now. Just a string of singular encounters that rarely have any real impact on the sovereignty map. If you don't like people talking about those, then there won't be much to report outside of whatever Atlas is doing in Scalding Pass. No other major powers are doing anything except having isolated slap fights over moons.

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    Reposting Elftor's state of the compass update due to Zymurgists' Stalinist censorship of war reporting.
    I know they are small time low sec bears and nobody cares when they die, but i thought it was a p. cool story.
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    I have been chosen by our corp leader Kurth Ren to make a daily update about how our war is going down. Its gonna be pretty cool I hope you come back 2 read more!!!!

    First is the boring stuff. We killed some compass and I know u cant post killboards but i think if u google broski killboards u can see what we did wit their battleships. lets just say there are civilian shield boosters on megathrons n tackle and webs on blackbirds ROFL! We r keeping up r 85% efficiency but i think its higher cuz i killed a drake bpo in an afk badger a few weeks ago but it didnt show up. wat is up for that we pay our money to the killboard dudes u think he'd fix it but wat lol

    Okay now the fun stuff. Goshee (leader of the Compass) has been confirmed for lying about having a wife; a house; and a job. turns out he's 33 years old (almost 20 years older than me hes a fosil rofl!!!) and still lives at mom's! Mad props 2 our Compass spy for getting that intel!!!! News of this shocked yors truely at first, but the pieces started fitting together. No woman would allow her husband to take out a Cash Mart loan to buy plex to fight broski and hire mercs(this is ture i'm not troling he's admitted to it); nor would any woman live with a man who believes mercenary contracts are a form of griefing (in an upcomeing ventrilo recording release).

    Other funny news from the broski-compass war is that the Compass actually remember to update their clones now, after 2 pilots losing Caldari BS V happened last war (broski has 1 player in entire corp with battleship v lolol), and one of the pod losers was their alliance leader himself, who podded himself in emoness after we killed his missioning Golem ( he didnt no wat killrights were roflrofl!). Broski pvp warlord and british dude goifensedes had this to say: "We did a real good job on locking their pods with AF's, and there's a certain satisfaction knowing that you just blew up a head full of implants" he said some other stuff but i got bored.

    We also campedd in the entire alliance with 4 broskis in 2ishkur/brutix/eagle and 4 blues (1 moros n 3 sniper hacs) and they had 20+ in station rofl! Also we reinforced their pos but that was boring so i didn't log on for that op and played some ODST with my brother. Master cheif in that game is kinda younger the stories wierd but i usually play linkin park off my ipod when its connected 2 my 360.


    Okay see u all tomorrow i gotta peace it or i'll be sleeping in home room tommorow!!!!V


    Also 2 compass take me off block i didn't mean those things in local i just like talkin som smack lol

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    Any news is good news to me, and there's always going to be a bigger war just around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    i'm probably gonna stop reporting cap fights. there was another "so many dreads dead it was amazing, all caps are replaced, gf to all, we'll get you next time " type mutual masturbation between the A-team and rzr/pl/goons over a CoW moon. people died. someone held field. someone didn't. eh.
    Really? I think you are having dreams. Killboards are empty.


    Ninjaedit: Oh wait, you were trolled by an 18/08/09 CAOD thread, gg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Talon View Post
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    you could have just made new thread instead of putting them in a 0.0 political updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murtas View Post
    Really? I think you are having dreams. Killboards are empty.


    Ninjaedit: Oh wait, you were trolled by an 18/08/09 CAOD thread, gg!
    haha yeah, i suck pretty hard.

    still waiting on dominion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadtoregistertoreadit View Post
    you could have just made new thread instead of putting them in a 0.0 political updates.
    I'm pretty sure the compass has been mentioned in the political update thread(s) more than once.

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    The problem is, that the story isn't cool, but just a teenage pubbie (Elftor) masturbating on the interwebs. It's in fact p. awful.
    On the other hand a few freidns of mine and I "ran" into Compass a few days ago on a lowsec roam and damn, really they are cowards. 15 ships flying around outside of station while 4 of us 5 (5th being the scout/prober) were slaughtering one of their drakes without even one of them warping in to help.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0ze View Post
    I have always liked this thread to be a general overview of 0.0 politics / events / movements and future predictions or speculations and some bit of pr0n rather than some single (which of course might have some impact) battle reports (what is this sudden influx of SHC posters and style?) with random screenshots.

    People should use some BattleDB (if its still alive) or SHC for that and not his thread..
    Post them in the Serious Discussion Forum. People like reading battle reports (trust me on this) and it makes my job a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Talon View Post
    I'm pretty sure the compass has been mentioned in the political update thread(s) more than once.
    Yeah, I've made a point of reporting whenever a corp leaves them to prove taht if you live in Empire having a big alliance serves no purpose other than acting as a convenient way to get war decced more often. Glad to see that I am right.
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    The North West:
    It seems to hve been a good day for Pandemic Legion, they repaired all of their reinforced towers which came out, killed a Stella Polaris. R64 and also destroyed a few random Mostly Harmless capital ships. Also Viper is still pretending to not work with the various smaller local entities in the area (Ev0ke, Huzzah, etc.)

    Info came from SHC.

    Insmother:
    According to CAOD (yes, I know...) Red Alliance has tried to work out a surrender with Atlas Alliance in order to peacefully evacuate their assets. Atlas, however, would much rather just kill RA though and have told the Reds that. Word on the street is that the Goons will be sending several more stealth bombers to help save Red Alliance and keep C-J in friendly hands.

    Info came from CAOD.

    Scalding Pass:
    Legion of xEATHXx have lost their sovereignty in 1V- so I guess that was just a bit of an accident. The Initiative. have gained sov in one of the stations that it was rumored that Cult of War wanted. The parts of the rumor that contained CoW being in the alliance seem significantly more true though as they teamed up with Against All Authorities to kill a number of coalition capitals at a CoW R64 moon today.

    Info came from kugutsumen.com and the automatic influence map.

    The Roundup:
    Cool Kids Club, who you should all remember are name-stealing bastards, are dead. As in no corps, no members, no coming back in six months.

    Lyonesse. and Shadow Incursion have both left KIA Alliance as part of KIA's disbanding. Lyonesse. is joining Razor Alliance and Shadow Incursion will be going indie until at least Domination.

    JotunHeim Hird have left Mostly Harmless. They are a decently sized Danish corporation that has been in quite a few alliances, some good and some not-so-good. Nova-Tek has also left the alliance. I have a feeling that this is MH intentionally trying to cut their numbers down to a more manageable size but really I have no clue.

    Two corps, with about 150 members between them, have joined Atropos. This brings DAMN's numbers up to 1050. Still listed as Morsus Mihi pets on the Trib. list though. Well at least I assume they are since I have been told that. Morsus-Mihi's old website has been brought by an advertising agency and is currently trying to sell me isk so I can't actually check to find out at this time.

    Reikoku have, unsurprisingly, joined IT Alliance bringing it up to 8 corps and 1800 members.

    Mercenaries for Hire are dead. Long live Mercenaries for Hire.

    Rebellion Alliance (a 1000 member Red Alliance splinter that lives in Querious,) has had a few joiners and quitters coming out of the past two days about even numberwise but I assume stronger in actual practice.

    A1ONE Inc. and Red Assault Brigades, having left EROR. last update, have found their way into RED.Overlord. Now that it has 900 members R.O is starting to look more like a real alliance and less like Eve's version of Chelsea.

    It Burns when I PVP, a very small corp with a very respectable alliance history has switched from The Klingons to Systemic-Chaos. No clue if they are just an alt corp if they only recently cascaded down to 5 members or what.

    DEFI4NT's leadership have gone on vacation (not to fanfest, no, they are far too normal for that) and are leaving the alliance to sort itself out in the middle of their big move-in/fight against Pandemic Legion.

    Vertigo Coalition is having some trouble moving into their new home (in Syndicate0 as well.

    Maru'kage, a shitty alliance I have until now not mentioned even once on account of how terrible they are, suck.

    Info came from dotlan and the in-game channel "0.0 Politics".

    The Internet and Real Life.
    Fanfest has started and I am not there because I am poor and busy and a normal human being. A number of game changes have been announced and many more are sure to follow in the upcoming few days but I generally won't be covering them as my actual knowledge of game mechanics is quite limited. Expect SDF and DUST (the kugutsumen.com subforums, not the other things that have those acronyms) to go into overdrive over the course of the week so if you only ever read my updates I reccomend taking a little time to look at the rest of the site this week as it will contain information that I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT. Not to say that there will be no fanfest news but I only plan on talking about the stuff that looks like it will have a major effect on 0.0 warfare or the game in general.

    Also our maybe temporary/maybe permanent special alliance information subforum is now open for posting so if you are a alliance executor/corp CEO/fleet commander/ other important person who wants to start a good thread on your own alliance please do so now.

    Info came from kugutsumen.com.
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    xix actually took there towers down in 1v-, oddly enough there are some ra towers in there... we are still not sure what to make of this ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    excellent, pet status confirmed
    atropos is 5n4keyes and follows that whole ex Aggression = ex EXE + ex IRC type chain

    having shown how well they learn from the past, they're making the same mistake of growing way too fast, though there' much less chance of MM resetting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    atropos is 5n4keyes and follows that whole ex Aggression = ex EXE + ex IRC type chain

    having shown how well they learn from the past, they're making the same mistake of growing way too fast, though there' much less chance of MM resetting them.
    as long as you dont claim parts of npc space to be yours and shoot blues there , gank a morsus mihi carrier and refuse to reinbourse it and don't insult vuk...

    they'll be fine standings wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Scalding Pass:The parts of the rumor that contained CoW being in the alliance seem significantly more true though as they teamed up with Against All Authorities to kill a number of coalition capitals at a CoW R64 moon today.

    Info came from kugutsumen.com and the automatic influence map.
    Oh god, if you read the last page, you would see that was just an member being trolled by an necro'ed CAOD thread, gg too!

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    great

    another fucking mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Is Warpingout View Post
    atropos is 5n4keyes and follows that whole ex Aggression = ex EXE + ex IRC type chain

    having shown how well they learn from the past, they're making the same mistake of growing way too fast, though there' much less chance of MM resetting them.
    While it's true that Atropos swallowed up a lot of ex-IRC/Aggro I'd disagree that 5n4keyes = atropos nor playing the leading tone. Atropos is Marquie-X's alliance and from what I heard they are not giving the exec out of hand.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    The North West:
    It seems to hve been a good day for Pandemic Legion, they repaired all of their reinforced towers which came out, killed a Stella Polaris. R64 and also destroyed a few random Mostly Harmless capital ships. Also Viper is still pretending to not work with the various smaller local entities in the area (Ev0ke, Huzzah, etc.)

    Info came from SHC.

    Insmother:
    According to CAOD (yes, I know...) Red Alliance has tried to work out a surrender with Atlas Alliance in order to peacefully evacuate their assets. Atlas, however, would much rather just kill RA though and have told the Reds that. Word on the street is that the Goons will be sending several more stealth bombers to help save Red Alliance and keep C-J in friendly hands.

    Info came from CAOD.

    Scalding Pass:
    Legion of xEATHXx have lost their sovereignty in 1V- so I guess that was just a bit of an accident. The Initiative. have gained sov in one of the stations that it was rumored that Cult of War wanted. The parts of the rumor that contained CoW being in the alliance seem significantly more true though as they teamed up with Against All Authorities to kill a number of coalition capitals at a CoW R64 moon today.

    Info came from kugutsumen.com and the automatic influence map.

    The Roundup:
    Cool Kids Club, who you should all remember are name-stealing bastards, are dead. As in no corps, no members, no coming back in six months.

    Lyonesse. and Shadow Incursion have both left KIA Alliance as part of KIA's disbanding. Lyonesse. is joining Razor Alliance and Shadow Incursion will be going indie until at least Domination.

    JotunHeim Hird have left Mostly Harmless. They are a decently sized Danish corporation that has been in quite a few alliances, some good and some not-so-good. Nova-Tek has also left the alliance. I have a feeling that this is MH intentionally trying to cut their numbers down to a more manageable size but really I have no clue.

    Two corps, with about 150 members between them, have joined Atropos. This brings DAMN's numbers up to 1050. Still listed as Morsus Mihi pets on the Trib. list though. Well at least I assume they are since I have been told that. Morsus-Mihi's old website has been brought by an advertising agency and is currently trying to sell me isk so I can't actually check to find out at this time.

    Reikoku have, unsurprisingly, joined IT Alliance bringing it up to 8 corps and 1800 members.

    Mercenaries for Hire are dead. Long live Mercenaries for Hire.

    Rebellion Alliance (a 1000 member Red Alliance splinter that lives in Querious,) has had a few joiners and quitters coming out of the past two days about even numberwise but I assume stronger in actual practice.

    A1ONE Inc. and Red Assault Brigades, having left EROR. last update, have found their way into RED.Overlord. Now that it has 900 members R.O is starting to look more like a real alliance and less like Eve's version of Chelsea.

    It Burns when I PVP, a very small corp with a very respectable alliance history has switched from The Klingons to Systemic-Chaos. No clue if they are just an alt corp if they only recently cascaded down to 5 members or what.

    DEFI4NT's leadership have gone on vacation (not to fanfest, no, they are far too normal for that) and are leaving the alliance to sort itself out in the middle of their big move-in/fight against Pandemic Legion.

    Vertigo Coalition is having some trouble moving into their new home (in Syndicate0 as well.

    Maru'kage, a shitty alliance I have until now not mentioned even once on account of how terrible they are, suck.

    Info came from dotlan and the in-game channel "0.0 Politics".

    The Internet and Real Life.
    Fanfest has started and I am not there because I am poor and busy and a normal human being. A number of game changes have been announced and many more are sure to follow in the upcoming few days but I generally won't be covering them as my actual knowledge of game mechanics is quite limited. Expect SDF and DUST (the kugutsumen.com subforums, not the other things that have those acronyms) to go into overdrive over the course of the week so if you only ever read my updates I reccomend taking a little time to look at the rest of the site this week as it will contain information that I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT. Not to say that there will be no fanfest news but I only plan on talking about the stuff that looks like it will have a major effect on 0.0 warfare or the game in general.

    Also our maybe temporary/maybe permanent special alliance information subforum is now open for posting so if you are a alliance executor/corp CEO/fleet commander/ other important person who wants to start a good thread on your own alliance please do so now.

    Info came from kugutsumen.com.
    Do you mean waiting for Dominion (for the lyoness/whatever update)?

    Also, if RA is following past experience they demanded two titans and 100 billion isk to withdraw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ansecos View Post
    Do you mean waiting for Dominion (for the lyoness/whatever update)?
    I think so... I've mailed him about it

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    RE: Red Alliance aboard the failtrain

    As someone with Russian heritage and emotional attachment to RA, it pains me to see the alliance go. Having said that, I really do wish, hope and pray every night before I go to bed, that they die ASAP in a horrible dramatic manner.

    The last nail in RA's coffin was nync's departure and that was way too long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoshka View Post
    RE: Red Alliance aboard the failtrain

    As someone with Russian heritage and emotional attachment to RA, it pains me to see the alliance go. Having said that, I really do wish, hope and pray every night before I go to bed, that they die ASAP in a horrible dramatic manner.

    The last nail in RA's coffin was nync's departure and that was way too long ago.
    Funny how nync is the first and last nail in their coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorda View Post
    Funny how nync is the first and last nail in their coffin.
    mactep leaving was the first

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    Mactep left because he was a lazy baby who wanted an easy fight in the drones instead of a hard one against BoB. The real first time would, I guess, be when Thug left and then Death left a year or so later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clomsaver View Post
    Mactep left because he was a lazy baby who wanted an easy fight in the drones instead of a hard one against BoB. The real first time would, I guess, be when Thug left and then Death left a year or so later.
    They were all major fcs, but when thug left ra were still a major force. Once mactep left ra went into a major decline by only having nync left.

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    @ Yorda - who said that?

    I mean seriously, who would even argue that it's the "first" nail when nothing major, aside of Daira's attempt at take-over, happened to RA internally until now?

    And while I'm at it, I gotta mention that Daira Lir is a very competent manager - perhaps not the most inspiring figure, but definitely knows his game.

    I can't help but wonder what would RA be if the coup was successful.

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    It would be Error with a new name and Warriors Tribe as members. Or in other words dead. R.O might have took the name back over after Zero. left and the remaining corps went south so in that way the alliance could have remained but other than that it certainly wouldn't be a strong political force.
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