lol....u fuckers didnt even have the balls to handle FA you left Atuk alone in the North to start your own shit...thatīs why you backstabed 5 and BEGGED RA....too bad I dont have the chat logs anymore...
Anyway...back to the topic....
Keep up the great work Kugutsumen.....give em hell !!!
FFS, CCP seems intent to destroy itself before we can even try to fix it.Originally Posted by kugutsumen
GG self destruct button !
OK, you tell me how we cheated. Another bullshit lie created by the legions of bitter "hard done to" whinging twats that play EVE these days. We had to slaughter a 50 man goonfleet to win that hel, with freighters loaded with gear in the thick of it.
Tell me that was a setup mate, because if it was then goons must have been on on it too. They were in the same place as us that day, only diference is that we had our shit together and won the prize.
So please stop crying, and btw yes, I love the Hel, it's awesome
well great chance for kugu to prove you wrong here then.
You docked one freighter at that station to move over 3 million m3 in goods in. It's pretty damned obvious it was pre-staged. If CCP would even bother to check wallet transaction logs, they'd be able to prove it easily.
All of the logs about the ISD leak and the controversy are still readily available -- CCP once again chose to cover it up rather than punishing you.
Of course, it sure didn't help you guys much, when it comes down to it. Have fun living in NPC space.
:gonk:5:38:10 AM Lallante [Spoof] hey
5:38:16 AM Lallante [Spoof] have you seen this shit?
5:38:20 AM The Enslaver: Yes, I know
5:38:23 AM The Enslaver:
5:38:32 AM Lallante [Spoof] you're in trouble?
5:38:54 AM Lallante [Spoof] have you seen the kugutsumen thread?
5:38:58 AM The Enslaver: yes
5:39:14 AM Lallante [Spoof] I heard the leak is from bob
5:39:25 AM Lallante [Spoof] but can't confirm
5:39:28 AM The Enslaver: nope
5:39:42 AM The Enslaver: I didn't tell anyone... just don't worry about it
5:40:14 AM Lallante [Spoof] I feel sorry for you
5:40:26 AM Lallante [Spoof] and me.. are you really going to get renamed?
5:40:37 AM The Enslaver: You won't see me ingame again, no
5:40:43 AM Lallante [Spoof] arggg!!!!!!!
5:40:48 AM Lallante [Spoof] is there anything we can do ?
5:40:54 AM The Enslaver: no lol
5:40:55 AM The Enslaver: dw about it
5:41:11 AM Lallante [Spoof]
5:41:24 AM Lallante [Spoof] what happened exactly?
5:41:36 AM Lallante [Spoof] you can talk you're at work?
5:42:35 AM Lallante [Spoof] hello
5:42:59 AM The Enslaver: You know I can't say anything
5:43:03 AM The Enslaver: anyway, later mate
5:43:05 AM Lallante [Spoof] wait
5:43:16 AM Lallante [Spoof] the titan is with chow?
5:43:27 AM The Enslaver: uhuh
5:43:30 AM Lallante [Spoof] ?
5:43:35 AM The Enslaver: that is a yes
5:43:38 AM Lallante [Spoof] cool
5:43:54 AM Lallante [Spoof] can we keep in touch after that..
5:44:03 AM Lallante [Spoof] you disappear in game, we can stay friends
5:44:11 AM The Enslaver: yes
Another nice lie, as soon as the news was published every Goon in C-J jumped into their crappy ships (we were just getting set up there) with Remedial in a Merlin or Incursus. We got to the destination system first trying to hold it while the required items were gathered. LV jumped in a fleet with a large number of battleships, basically decimating our fleet but there were no freighters with them.
kugu, please prove Velios wrong with any information you may have been holding back surrounding this "event".
Won the prize huh? Yeh, moving that much minerals in such a tiny time span is bullshit, you know it, your alliance knows it but CCP in all its great glory decides not to investigate because really, all they've been doing is sweeping it under the rug for too long. Our good trusty Kugu will keep delivering this wonderful drama until CCP probobly explodes, but i hear theres a 40k MMO in the making so hey...
Also to quote our Diplomat Academion: "Your alliance is a piece of shit". You can play the innocent little boy all you want but you know that Hel is ill-gotten, and LV will be curb stomped whilst performing bukkake over all your corpses.
Why would CCP cover anything up if we had cheated? I certainly would not expect them to.
FYI we had 2-3 freighters with goods in that day. One arrived in station safely before the others did. It was during the final phase of our attempt to get the final 2 freighters in station that Goon blockaded the system. We steamrolled over them and got the freighters docked. It is a simple as that.
And yes, I will enjoy empire space now. You enjoy defending the space you have captured as you clearly won this battle. I will not begrudge you as part of the winning side your moment on top of the hill. Would you do the same for me?
Judging by your childish tone, I don't think so.
Wahhhh
You gonna take your toy's and go join BOD too?
Maybe screw over the rest of LV?
i think we've all seen just what lengths CCP will go to to cover corruption up, so uh, yeah
in other news: how's the weather up there on your high horse?
You are so full of shit. Not only did LV cry all over the forums about cheating and GMs and CCP not doing their jobs, but they then descended into flaming and making threats about OMG GANKING PEOPLE.
Bullshit you fucked, lied and backstabbed RA and backstabbed the rest who thought you were a great friend PERIOD.No, FUCK YOU Gurista. Don't know who you are but FUCK YOU, and the horse you rode in on. We didn't "Beg" RA for anything. We merely advised them to give us some space back then as they knew what we were capable of.
They didn't give us space so we claimed Tenerifis anyway, formed LV and then lived up to our promise of war against RA for them being so arrogant as to not see where we were coming from.
So again... FUCK YOU, with cherries on top
I guess Greed does that to people.
Dont throw stones in glass houses.
There is the fact that I personally was off the station in a covops within 15 minutes of the announcement, and remained there for the next several hours, and only saw one freighter dock.
Besides that, I think you just outed yourself -- the goods required totaled 3.39m m3. How did you fit that into three freighters, again?
The CCP cover-up is obvious. The thread on the contest and ISD leak was 5-pages long, and it got moderated down to one page and locked. Luckily, it's saved elsewhere.
Edit: as is this. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...hreadID=405843 the entire tetrimon arc was canceled as a result of the same leak.
It may have been more freighters. It was a long time ago.
What exactly are you claiming here? that we had stuff already in the station??? All of our freighters (how ever many were needed) were rammed with the bits needed and duly docked. We handed over the goods as requested and the rest is history.
You cant have been there, or werent paying attention because if you were you would have seen all our freighters dock.
That is, of course, if you presuppose that you are telling the truth. We have no reason to assume that at all.
Bullshit. There WAS a leak in ISD at around that time where some twat leaked a "game arc" or something. But in the initial thread about the event were we won the mothership, CCP went on record to say that the leak of which you speak had NOTHING to do with event that we won fairly.
I notice you didnt find that link though, conveniently...
Oh, it's there alright. And it's just as much bullshit as it is to say I missed two freighters docking at the station right after a major battle in the same system.
Oh, so there might've been a 4th freighter I missed now, backpedal much?
It's easy to prove, wallet logs will do it. Why haven't they been revealed?
Why should they be revealed? Does everyone that wins some kind of prize or event now immediately have to suffer the suspicions of the whinging, bitter minority these days?
Tell you what, lick my balls and ill show you some wallet logs.
If you don't care about clearing your name then why come in here crying and screaming at people.
Congratulations, I think that's the first time anyone's called Goonfleet a minority.
Glad to see you're just as eager to cover up the cheating as CCP is. You should talk to Lemonde AKA Vegeta of TAOSP, you two can camp some gates together in your motherships.
velios you can only disprove stuff you are acused of with proof. You can't come on here and say "but we're innocent" and think people will let you get away with it. Especially if you're here to prove LV innocent. This is what CCP also does wrong. They say "believe us we're nice" but do not prove why they should be trusted or give results that would prove that they CAN be trusted.
When kugu posts stuff, i also question it as hard as i would a CCP post. When i post stuff kugu has posted here or petition stuff he posts here, i want to be DAMN SURE i don't put my own credibility on the line.
Put up or shut up. Until somebody makes an official complaint to CCP with hard evidence against me or my corp relating to this event I have no need to "clear my name"
Do you have evidence that will stand up? if so bring it to an official place, not this shady forum. But I think we both know that's not going to happen, because there IS no evidence, just bitterness, tears and envy here.
An official forum? You mean like E-O CAOD, where anything that doesn't lick McBoD's nuts gets censored and locked with *don't troll -- GM Snatch*
As an aside Velios feel free to contact me in game if you are interested in joining our new Free trade zone
It has absolutely already been presented to and repeatedly ignored by both Kieron and Arkanon. It was even replied to by Kieron publically -- some lame cop-out about it being too long ago to investigate properly.
When CCP ignores it, all that's left is to make sure as many people as possible know exactly what you and the rest of your corp did.
I doubt there is much envy or tears here for an alliance that is busy losing all their outposts and is being driven to lowsec.
Hey retard no one invited you here. If you want anyone to take you seriously then say something meaningful. Besides, information was posted to eve-o closer to when this all happened and it just got deleted.
Aye, the system is that you need to prove im guilty, not that I have to prove my innocence.
What kug is doing here is posting evidence that creates a reasonable doubt that there might actually be some wrongdoing.
If players in question should all of a sudden vanish from eve then those doubts are proven correct.
Everything else we read here we should take with a grain of salt, but I have to admit that this forum has already delivered. t20 incident would never have come out.
So between all the smack and flame we read here there actually is some valid points. Just find the evidence to prove it.
But in order for CCP to act people would need to be able to create a megathread on eve-o which will not be easy as they are locked right away these days.
While I'd like to see this thread go to 10 pages, I have to wonder. Don't you have some freighters from your alt account to be loading for your relocation to empire, Velios? Better get that gear moved so you can reorganize in Jita and then storm out to the new areas and claim Lotka Volterra has never lost a battle some more.
Considering the numbers that goons generally bring to battles what you did was the same as kicking down a sand castle. That wasn't even finished. And was about 2 inches high. Basically it was tailor-made for hermit crabs is what I'm saying. Maybe it was even tailor-made by hermit crabs. Either way it is no acheivement.
BTW thanks for showing up. You have just created a very large and very entertaining drama bomb with your very presence. Being super-arrogant after being driven out of your territory is rather funny as well.
Velios, you are a dick, you have always been a dick, now just shut the fuck up dick!
Good work Kugutsumen, bring the bastards to justice
When will CCP learn, they either enforce the rules on everyone, or don't enforce them at all.
They are only making themselves look worse everyday with selective punishment.
To clear this one up a wee bit (although I doubt it will be believed im gonna post anyway)
MCORP were about to have a corp arsing about OP in HLW , as we did on a periodic basis. We had moved some POS assets to HLW and were about to turn the frieghter back when myself and one other corp member both spotted an event on the forums in a system 5 or 6 jumps from HLW.
We mobilised our empire freighters to get the bits needed moved our 0.0 freighters out via Doril to pick up the other bits and moved all the freighters back towards the system near HLW (forgotten what it was).
Got sort of ambushed by a pile of GOONs dunno how many but it was enough to dock the freighters 2 out from the system and ask in alliance for some reinforcements fot the M gang of about 20. We killed them and then blasted the freighters through.
The events guy was in local , we spoke in local with him about this in a sort of RP way (as you need to do for these things) and then waited nearly a week for CCP to confirm all was kosher then they gave us a Hel which had the worst fitting ever seen on it.
If there was collusion with CCP/events over the Hel acquisition then none of us who were involved in it are aware of it.
I will still be convinced it was a massive stroke of luck , considering the bad luck we have had against us in the war with node crashes and loss of a building titan you could maybe point to karma being involved here (if you were the really cynical bastard type). One really lucky turn = one really unlucky one.
Thats it im afraid guys , no conspiracy to defraud CCP out of anything no collusion with event players or ISD.
As someone else once said proof or STFU.
Seems he only exposes those who are bob or friends of bob, not seeing anything bout cheaters in other alliances here
Welcome to stage 3.
1: There are no cheaters, proof or STFU
2: OK, there was a cheating dev but only one !
3: Well everyone does it.
dumb fuck... check my post history on EVE-O.. I exposed the Goons and their portraitpack and even went after ASCN in several of my thread.... which were not locked or censored even though they had private chatlogs and posts in them.
This accusation is bullshit. I am in LV and I read this T2 BPO discussion on LV forums. It happened after devs released news about invention and the T2 BPO seeding. So any person with some brain knew that T2 BPO prices will be dropping, as will the T2 module prices. This is no insider information.Originally Posted by Enslaver
You wanted 135? Shocked
Well, as someone who has a little knowledge of the T2 industry and how it is headed.... I would say that is a bad call. I'd have let it go for anything over 60, as in a month or two it won't even be worth that...
Just remember that the price of cap 2's was only high due to cartels, not demand - when the bpo's are doubled, the cartel collapses. Not to mention they are already one of the prime targets of people performing invention...
Invention is setup in a way that will make it cheaper to produce things through invention over time. Whilst most of the items needed are expensive and one-use only, afaik for instance, some exploration sites rarely drop versions of said items that last forever. Basically, whilst these are rare now, the number will increase in time, driving costs down etc etc.
So yes, invention will be a very, very major factor. I saw it coming and sold my BCS2 bpo. 78.5bn. Or about 4-5 years profit if you factor in how things are almost definately going to go.
Why don't you run and hide in Stain about it?
LV is the worst alliance in Video Game history. They have a cheating GM and cant even win the day. And on top of cheating, and losing, they are now crying. PATHETIC.
Prove the alleged cheating. Go on , gimme logs that Kuguts has found that MCORP "cheated" its way to a Hel. Where are these things that say that I cheated as I was part of that op ?? I dont class this as "crying" , I wanna see this cleared up with a simple "yes I have proof" or "no its a malicious rumour". Simple as that.
As for Enslaver , I have no idea if he has or hasnt done anything , I would hazzard a guess as no though as he has rarely been online since changing jobs in January which from this im assuming he went to work for CCP.
As for losing , shit happens , they guys there before us lost , they guys there after us will lose eventually. Its the way of the game. Most of us have no issues with that tbh , its just the ones that yell and scream about it that give us a bad name, which tbh is poor but I think every alliance has or will have the same issues at some time.
Wah wah wah wah wah.
Shut up. If LV did as much fighting as they now do crying they could have won this war.
FACTS: LV has over 3000 members, today? They have 2400. Soon CA will be bigger than LV in a couple months they will be with -V- and ASCN in the dustbin of failed alliances.
Goodbye to a rubish alliance, filled with rubbish leaders. It's time the lot of you go 'pwn' in WOW.
The Missing 600 are in Fatal Alliance through F4T4L and RE1GN and LV have been hovering at 2400-2500 for a couple of months - whats your point?
so if true Enslaver has been a GM for 4-6 Weeks been barely online and he gets all this shit lol.
So what exactly has he done wrong? This type of exposure will ensure that no serious players will ever consider becoming a GM again. Hence we will all be left with GM's and maybe even Dev's that dont even play the Game.
GM's are in every major alliance, get used to it or feel the guilt when one of your own is forced to leave your alliance and rename their characters.
I once thought that EVE was full of mature 25+ year olds, shame I was mistaken and its full of a bunch of moronic kids.
WRONG!
F4t4l left months ago when they saw things were going bad for LV. The numbers are from the start of February when LV had 3000+ members. After the titan abortion LV's numbers began to slip. Then corps started leaving, and now private members are leaving every day by the dozens. So today, not even a month after the Titan abortion LV has lost over 600 members they are now at 2394 members and dropping!
FACTS: They are good things.
I actually started keeping score as of the 21st of feb 2007. About a day after 77s fell.
Feb 21
2800
feb 22
2736
Feb 23rd
2716
Feb 24th
2710
feb 25
2698
feb 26
2468
feb 28
2458
march1
2432
march2
2394
DO YOU SEE A TREND HERE?
Err did i Whine ? Did I fuck you fuckwit away back to your restricted gene pool and leave the big boys to sort things out.
Who really cares a fuck about the numbers in an alliance , as ive said the coalition looks like it will win , good luck to them. As far as I am concerned LV did a lot of good things , it also did a lot of bad things as well but thats life and shit happens. If LV dies then so be it , MCORP will move on and do something else , thats what we have always done. Corp > Alliance to me and a lot of M.
I want this so called cheating to be proved or not that is it , I do not like being called a cheat when as far as i know everything was kosher and above board.
I await to see if Kuguts can provide any proof that MCORP cheated , I still haven't seen ONE shred of evidence that points to that being the case. All I see are some bitter people who want to try score points.
You are quick enough to post about devs being everywhere so get onto this and prove or disprove this then.
FACT: QUAM have left
FACT: Firestar have left
Thats it atm , although that may change
Theres yer number for ya
Now find my some proof on the MCORP cheating allegations
LV is dieing, there is no getting around it, they lost and were bitter, whiny children about it.
He has given insider information, that is his crime, and Kug has promised to out one GM/dev every month until they unban his accounts or stop banning his new ones where he states he is Kug. He can't go back on a promise!
They shouldn't be in any major 0.0 alliance or corp, period! There is too much temptation to cheat, to make sure your side wins. As for feeling guilty? I would be glad! I wouldn't want to find out we were winning because we were allowed to win by the CCP gods!
Another thing, it is less about cheating than it is about how CCP reacts and handles the accusations. They censor, lie, and mislead the players. They have also started to blame the players! It is the players fault nodes crash, not our crappy gameplay mechanics, programming, or hardware! Also many things that were called bugs/exploits are now becoming features. CCP is clueless, and it shows in everything they do.
IF he has more knowledge then he shout "out" them now. The only way for CCP to clean its act up is for every bit of information to be in the public domain.
As for enslavers alleged "crime" , I came to that conclusion myself and sold my BPOs , does that make me a dev ?
Note sure if this has been posted yet, but a new Arkanon blog is up about this: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=441
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