Morsus Mihi - *gone now* WH Station Camped by 100+ BOB *gone now* - 7 September 2008

[k]

Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:16 pm

edit: stand down. dont log off in station in future though.

Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:28 pm

Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:00 am

OMG pwetty big picture.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:04 am

noob picture.. when I only play with one account I use 2048ish resolution

Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:26 am

It was BIG lag.

If we had intel bout them .... we failed bc gang was formed when they were in wh, and our gang was in:
1. wh
2.d7
3.imk
4.docked in wh

and I think we didnt have titan online. Lag was that big, when I tried to undock, had 5 mins black screen.

So .... log at pos or ss in fleet ship, and in wh or systems that have jb to wh

Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:43 am

Yeah it was the same in vfk....many times alot of people were camped in station, as a gbc Fleet arrived without warnings. Just log in Space and also distribute your ships in different stations.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:02 am

I fucked up myself, as I placed all my ships in WH... I'll try to move them around where I have JCs installed.

edit: and it would be great if we could start using MM TS... as some of us can't start up razor's. I mean - there would always be spies, no matter what, so with those "precausions" you're only fucking-up your alliance-mates .

edit2: as for spies: for example: as soon as I said in trib coms that station is clr, some 7-10 ships started jumping on station, and MWD-ing around trying to catch me (unsuccessfully :lol while I was cloaked. When they see no-one is jumping to station they warp off / cloak. When I say again ti's clr, they jump back / decloak.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:37 pm

Noob. What's wrong with razor registration?

Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:21 pm

If you're having problems registering with Razor TS, try doing it out of game. The site is not supported for in game registration.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:27 pm

We need to get faster here.
If they had attacked our CJ they had succesfully disrupted our pipe to IMK where they can have their first foothold in Tribute.

We had no Titan ready yesterday and not the Numbers for around 1 hour to match them. During this hour BOB controled WH and we could do nothing more then reporting actions or waiting at the WH POS or in a POS FF.

I was also shocked to see the defense of the CJ POS.... but i PM this to my CEO and hope that HC will do its homework soon... very soon.


How about an Alliance order to store clones in MS and to bring 1-2 fleet ships in a POS Ship Maint Array.
We can use the MS Clone to bring peple who are trapped at stations back into game by clonejumping to the Clone vault of a MS and take a Fleet Ship at the POS.

Before anyone starting complaining again... think about it.
We had already some ideas and none of this ideas were even testet... even if the testing environment was created.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:59 pm

Noob. What's wrong with razor registration?

Don't remember what went wrong... I was too tired that day. I WILL try again, but I tried 10 times with IRON TS, and it still didn't work for me.

Also, there is a problem when you reinstall your computer and you don't keep the password - you are done with RZR TS.

Either way, it ain't the point - the point is: if we have easy-to-register TS, I don't see why using more complicated (since we would have spies either way). You're not making it any harder for spies (as they don't have RL, so it ain't problem for them to sit 10+ hours in front of computer trying to figure out how to infiltrate TS again), you're making it harder for regular members, and that's bad.

Same goes for JB pass... I need a lot of time to type this leet shit we have now (L4t3r), as I'm never sure if I typed it right. Those few seconds could get you killed (especially since we seen that cloak-smartbombing BS last night in d7).

Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:13 pm

Razor ts registration process is far easier and faster then MM's imho

Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:58 pm

We need to get faster here.
If they had attacked our CJ they had succesfully disrupted our pipe to IMK

If they would have attacked the CJ then a lot of text messages would have been sent and bam a nice group of MM caps appear. If things get really bad we wake Vuk up :lol:

Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:05 pm

Shinma smsed me so if shit hit the fan I would log on EVE on my mobile and DD them.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:10 pm

If they would have attacked the CJ then a lot of text messages would have been sent and bam a nice group of MM caps appear. If things get really bad we wake Vuk up :lol:

Ok we all know that is far from beeing the reality! To be honest I already stated this in the FSR Forum

On the Paper we are one of the Top 5 Alliances in terms of Members and Titans, but when we bring it down to the field we are not even in the Top10!!!

Were are all our Titans? I only know Deki and Chee to be the most active ones, someone with name K.... I say a week ago but thats it.

We need everyone online PvPler, Miners, Women, Kids and all Pets every day.

We need to push BoB back ASAP or we loose Tribute sooner or later!

BoB held WH- for about 2 hours yesterday if we didnt see the point how easy it was for them to go there and sit for a while then well .... I hope it is not already to late to ACT!

I lost incl my Alt +500 Mil ISK the last 2 days while fighting for Tribute...I really want to see more people fighting for OUR home!

FB

Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:27 pm

I will be training Cloning to lvl4 on my Nyx and I will park myself in core with a bunch of support ships in hanger. Sometime over the weekend-ish I will make myself available for clone installation.

This should help deal with this.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:43 pm

Ok we all know that is far from beeing the reality! To be honest I already stated this in the FSR Forum

:Stuff:

We need to push BoB back ASAP or we loose Tribute sooner or later!

:More Stuff:

FB

Push Bob back to where exactly? MAX is not about taking space remember that, its about making our space worthless. They are staging from lowsec so you can't push them back into their territory, unless the whole NC fancies going -10.

You say omg what if they had attacked the CJ. I say they would have attacked the CJ if they actually had the force to do so. You have to have some faith, they would never hesitate at attacking it if they thought it was possible to take it down.

Everyone is starting to run out of steam is the fact of the matter. Both the GBC and NC sooner or later will be bored of this war and everyone will be back to carebearing. Right now our fleets equal theres have faith and keep x'ing up for fun.

Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:58 pm

Bob better not be running out of steam, the more pew pew the better.

Maybe we should have a donation drive for them?

:twisted:

Keep the PVP rolling, I'm still looking to lose my Dread in a glorious engagement. 8)

Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:43 pm

this is nothing more that bobits haveing fun with spy info.
for past 3 weeks everyone has beeen yelling get your ships to wh, start in wh, form up in wh, have blah blah ships in wh.

after spys reports bobits said "hey lets go fuck with them in wh, bet they are all docked there, lets go camp the wh stn and make them panic"

Most disapointing thing for me was no sign of any pos gunners. that should have been the first thing that happened, the jammer pos full of pos gunners.
Also BOB had a smart bomb bs popin blues at the JB pos. WTF?? 3 pos gunners could have sorted that shit out.

hirr now has a full list of pos gunners for use by FC's. all hirr pos gunners have BM to all pos from which they are to defend trib.
I would STRONGLY sugguest that every corp in MM sorts their shit out and takes the deployment of pos gunners seriously! BS fleets alone will not save trib.

flame away......

RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:34 am

It's my understanding that our POSes (and the CJ) in WH- are impossible to target, because of capital sovereignty...?

If we had intel bout them .... we failed bc gang was formed when they were in wh, and our gang was in:
1. wh...

In addition to this, their gang contained a much better content of ships than ours. In a 100-man gang, they had approximately 50 BSes, and the rest HACs or better. When we bridged into WH-, we had 140 in fleet and only about 30-40 BSes, and tons of lighter ships.

Early on when they had just entered WH- and our gang was getting numbers to fight them, we had more drakes in fleet than BSes.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:44 am

It's my understanding that our POSes (and the CJ) in WH- are impossible to target, because of capital sovereignty...?

You can not target POSes in Sov 4, thats right... but you can kill modules.

Most disapointing thing for me was no sign of any pos gunners. that should have been the first thing that happened, the jammer pos full of pos gunners.

In the past i suggested already to not rely so much on numbers and POS Gunners and try to find a way to defend systems with lesser numbers and not so specialised people as POS Gunners.*

It would be nice to be back after a working day and to see all jammers still up in tribute.

* see here:
https://www.4s-community.org/forum/v...ic.php?t=65856
If the US TZ has fun with TRI, together with BOB attacking a CJ we can have the same problem we had already had in VFK.

[nancy]

This weekend was interesting, 50+ destroyed BoB's and Tri's.

It seem like there is a lot of homework to be done by the BoB kids(members). It seems like the MAX is getting into MIN phase.

Good Work!

[MY KICKBOXING GIRLFRIEND]

This weekend was interesting, 50+ destroyed BoB's and Tri's.

It seem like there is a lot of homework to be done by the BoB kids(members). It seems like the MAX is getting into MIN phase.

Good Work!

Yeah, MAX has already been in it's MIN phase ever since that headline "MAX damage MINIMIZED in Deklein" about a month and a half ago.

[nancy]

hm... i am not sure about BoB and TRI, but it seems like its weakening.

I mean... tribute is still holding. There were some efforts of BoB and TRI trying to change tactics and approach, but they need long time to adjust. Also tri moved some force to Venal... cause IRON was stationed there... or maybe they moving ops north...

Also some TCF and PL are seen around. Rumors are that PL kicked some BoBits asses in Venal.

In general NC survived first impact, seem like weak parts are gone and the core is fighting back. The war is in its mid stage.

Also... does anyone knows what is Goons? I mean that name seem familiar to me but cant exactly remember it.