TBH, I kind of doubt that Rod Blaine or anyone else in BoB is too worried about going down beyond the fact that they are getting to PVP very close to home.Originally Posted by BOBISCAUGHT
TBH, I kind of doubt that Rod Blaine or anyone else in BoB is too worried about going down beyond the fact that they are getting to PVP very close to home.
This is the first point I dont understand. What is it that makes them "sneering twerps"? If it is their forum talk tell me a post to read that is any different than any other alliance that is winning a war. I, frankly, dont see it that way. Are they cocky? Sure. Are they good? Sure. Do they talk a lot of smack? No doubt, but no more than any other winning side of most wars that have been fought in EVE.
Here is where you are wrong. BoB, on these very forums, have been accused of: Crashing Nodes intentionally, using passive targeters to shoot a Titan that resulted in it dying, using a GM to spy on Goons POS, and cheating Cyvok out of his titan among other things. Many (not necessarily you USER NAME) have jumped up and down on those things and repeated them as if they were the gospel. There is no proof of those things. I have also heard repeated over and over that Molle posted real life info on the EVE-O forums. Perhaps he did, but in all the threads I have read noone has been able to show me where that took place. If it did he should be banned. If they cheated with the other stuff they should be banned. However, as of this point I have seen no proof of any of that happening. My point is not that BoB didnt cheat, but simply that because a dev handed some BPO's to them doesnt make everything else that you WANT to be true, true. I have personally stated my opinion on here that T20 should be fired and anyone who knew the BPO's were ill gotten should be banned. Thus far, I have seen no proof that is the case.
As for my standard of proof I have already shown why it is that high. Anyone can read the hacked BoB forum stuff and THINK that perhaps BoB did all of the above things. However, the only thing that has proven in my book is that a dev was there and stole some BPO's and bob benefitted and that they have logged on to shared characters for a cynonet (all major alliances have done that). Hate them for the dev thing or for being cocky but please stop spreading BS about things you WANT to be true.
Correct, but it does lead to doubt as to whether or not this has happened before, and will happen in the future. Before this, BoB was just seen as the arrogant neighborhood bully. Now, nobody knows whether that's because they're good at what they do, or whether they get "help" in whatever form.My point is not that BoB didnt cheat, but simply that because a dev handed some BPO's to them doesnt make everything else that you WANT to be true, true.
The natural progression in thought is to go for the latter. Perhaps it just their reputation that attracts "the best" all the time, perhaps it's more than that.
You can't deny that there have always been allegations against BoB, and that BoB has done -some- things that on the surface look strange enough, but combined with the recent dev stuff, start to look an awful lot like something else.
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, most likely, it is a duck.
So Rod. I mean, I think it's rod, you certainly have the propensity for :words: that he does but you lack the eloquence of Rebellion or the sheer volume of Digitalcommunist. Anyway, so Rod, if you're going to push the party line of "Bob are the more mature players in this game", how are you going to qualify it? Because if you're our shiny paragon-beacon of all that is mature in the world, all I'm seeing is logical fallacy, dodging questions, and a universal disdain for all those dissimilar from your beliefs. Am I pretty on the money there or are you just pissing bullshit so you can post more fucking words than anyone else and pretend its a measure of your worth as a human?
The sneering twerps are just another tyrannical empire built on deceit, lies, and excessive force.
Like alll others before them, they will fall.
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shut up.
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Cunting is used commonly in these here islands (the UK). Sorry to burst your bubble.
Cunt.
I'd just like to formally apologise for my "death threat" yesterday. It was unnecessary and it was a parody in bad taste and I don't hate you madcat so I shouldn't be giving you extra work to do.
I have a friend holding a high position in goonfleet/swarm.
He told me last night that someone within "the coalition" tried to DOS the BOB titan pilot once or twice recently.
It didnt work, and they are suspecting that someone else was playing that character and is now screaming metagaming/accountsharing all over the place.
You got a warning for this post.
look buddy i know people in the swarm, important people
Sure they did...
You BOB guys are pulling out All the Stops Ehh?
Damage control protocol not working any more?
Funny! :-) So do I.look buddy i know people in the swarm, important people
Just because I dont flame bob to high heaven doesnt mean Im not fighting them.
Allright, talked to my buddy and as long as no names are given I could post snippet of a log.
As I do not have acces to goon boards etc this is all I have.
My corp is not affiliated with any alliance atm.
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[ 2007.02.20 21:49:03 ] ME > yes it does
[ 2007.02.20 21:49:20 ] HIM > lol now it does : P
[ 2007.02.20 21:49:59 ] HIM > they tried to dos shrike though
[ 2007.02.20 21:50:14 ] HIM > didn’t quite work
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:10 ] ME > lol
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:13 ] ME > why?
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:16 ] ME > tiinfoilers are amok allover – be carefull
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:21 ] HIM > why it didn’t work?
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:32 ] ME > no man why you do that?
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:11 ] HIM > I wasn’t my call… didn’t know until after
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:28 ] HIM > Everybody does it
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:40 ] HIM > But either the IP was wrong or molle was not playing shrike
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:17 ] ME > hacker nubs? :-P
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:58 ] HIM > lol no trust me. BoD does accountsharing big time
[ 2007.02.20 21:55:13 ] HIM > don’t you wonder how he gets the time to keep shrike online so much?
[ 2007.02.20 21:55:28 ] ME > unemployed nerd living in a basement with tones of time on his hand?
[ 2007.02.20 21:56:45 ] ME > tbh I don’t want to care about that
[ 2007.02.20 21:57:20 ] HIM > lol.. where’s you spirit?
[ 2007.02.20 21:57:42 ] HIM > wanna beat BoD you must do what they do! CCP doesn’t care why should i?
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I agree with you here. The only problem I have is when people try to influence others without any proof. No doubt I agree that there is a probability much of what is said could be true, but some people on here and on EVE-O repeat it saying "We have proof!!!!!" but can never present that.
If I were guessing I would guess that BoB has its fair share of immature players as well. However, I bet that there is a higher percentage of "teenage" acting players in goonfleet than BoB.
As for me being Rod, lol. As for me being DC, lol. As for me being any of those guys, lol.
I took it as a joke.
Just in case you havent figured it out yet, it doesnt matter to these guys if someone is doing it TO Bob, only if BoB is doing it to them.
a bob alt claiming that it isn't a bob alt
i have not seen this before, ever
if someone shoots one of your wrecks and it gives you aggro, does this show up in the client logs anywhere?
Oh your Rod Blaine alright!
Little Blue Bird M8's of yours should learn to keep their traps shut.
Logical fallacy and dodging questions? Where again? Please point them out to me so I can show you that it isnt I who is dodging anything. Too many of you are too busy showing off your colorful vocabulary and not busy enough reading...
Perhaps Rod is on the board somewhere? I havent ever spoken to Rod in my gaming experience. If it helps any I have been in the game for about 18 months now. Keep guessing. If you would like to be a bit closer to the truth perhaps you should stop guessing BoB and start guessing somewhere a little closer to home. As for m8's of mine, you are making yourself look silly. I am on my way now to the Eve-O forums to read Rod's past posts so I can figure out the similarities.Oh your Rod Blaine alright!
Little Blue Bird M8's of yours should learn to keep their traps shut.
Im making myself look silly?
Your acting like you must be Personally fucking/sucking Sir Molle with your pathetic attempts to lie and propaganda BOD's honor out of the mess they made.
For someone who claims to Not be BOD you sure are putting Maximum effort into their defense Rod!
P.S. Notice how everyone in EVE is now calling them BOD EXCEPT the BOD guys themselves... Ding Ding Ding we have a winner urfunny is BOD and Rod
@urfunny: that's what we're here for, to put forward whatever proof we can find. Whether you believe it isn't our concern, we just dig up dirt and publicise it. Or rather, Kugutsumen does all the work. I just mooch :P
One reason why I don't want to see this COAD uncensored turn into teh COAD on eve-o, because yes, that forum will drop your IQ by 50 the minute you think about reading it.
(This has been a slightly veiled warning to everyone that I do still expect everyone to at least pretend they're adults, and when they have a disagreement to also post like adults -- so no threats, but if you can slyly work in the fact that the person you disagree with sucks certain equestrian appendages, that's cool :P)
Cekc. Very good question, and I'll be honest on this. I dont know. It would be well worth experimenting with and finding out though.
I dont think the aggression timer beginnings go into logs anyway, but I could be wrong on that.
Hmm. I guess this was a pointless post
Tbh you dont have to BE bob to "defend them".
Im no bob, but still believe they are the most effective fighting machine in the game so far.
What do I base this on?
Lack of coalition results in bob homespace.
There are what... and handfull (?) northern alliances attacking the querious region and yet the results alone must be demoralizing.
As far as I understand (this is not firsthand knowlegde so bare with me)
The ED-9LS system has been defended completely. No hostile towers remain.
The station in 9cg is still on bob hands and allmost no opposition.
Fountain fighting has come to a stillstand - no major attacks by D2. And no stations held by D2.
The coalition lost 6 dreads alone in querious. 8 in fountain + a titan.
Thats alot of isk to throw out the window if the whole fountain/querious invasion was to keep bob from helping LV.
LV is a different story though, but my guess is LV pilots are suffering from battle fatique. I know nothing of the situation there apart from what I read at various forums....
AAA against MC? I have heard no reports lately so dont know what they are doing.
As said I think the best force out there right now is Band of brothers, closely followed by RED/GOON combined. The northern attack on bob homespace have been a huge faliure so far = major losses and no result.
Rumors has it, that D2 built a titan for RA - this has yet to be seen.
Aggro timers don't go into logs at all, otherwise you'd see it every time you started aggression, and I've yet to see it.Cekc. Very good question, and I'll be honest on this. I dont know. It would be well worth experimenting with and finding out though.
I dont think the aggression timer beginnings go into logs anyway, but I could be wrong on that.
Hmm. I guess this was a pointless post
You could probably see it if you run EVE with the logserver, but that only causes mucho mucho lag so that's not an option either.
Anyone else find it interesting that NO news story on the D2 titan loss was done on the ingame browser, but they did one for the LV titan loss that wasnt even a titan yet.
Might one speculate that the D2 titan may be reimbursed?
That would likely have little affect on if a story was written or not.
It takes forever for news stories to get posted and I doubt the titan will be reimbursed.
Even if you have your dmg msg off I still think the logs show the msgCekc. Very good question, and I'll be honest on this. I dont know. It would be well worth experimenting with and finding out though.
I dont think the aggression timer beginnings go into logs anyway, but I could be wrong on that.
Hmm. I guess this was a pointless post
Ok, calling you out...Where did I lie? As for the idiotic guessing game, give it up as long as you are looking to a southern alliance you are staying far from the truth. Spoke to any blue birds today?
You would be surprised at who I hear from on a regular basis in BOD
Take any so called roadtrips in the past two weeks ? isnt that how you guys hide the fact you were getting your asses kicked helping LV?
Your a Sad BOD troll and I wash my hands of you.
Because EVEN if I did POINT out several things you stretched it wouldnt really matter would it ? Because you would just spindoctor the facts to suit your story anyways.
BOD is dying and theres not a thing you guys can do about it!
Thats good enough for me.
P.S. Cant wait for KUG to post his new found info to shut up all you BOD trolls.
Im not feeding you any longer so starve Troll
Cant beat em...call em names.You would be surprised at who I hear from on a regular basis in BOD
Take any so called roadtrips in the past two weeks ? isnt that how you guys hide the fact you were getting your asses kicked helping LV?
Your a Sad BOD troll and I wash my hands of you.
Because EVEN if I did POINT out several things you stretched it wouldnt really matter would it ? Because you would just spindoctor the facts to suit your story anyways.
BOD is dying and theres not a thing you guys can do about it!
Thats good enough for me.
P.S. Cant wait for KUG to post his new found info to shut up all you BOD trolls.
Im not feeding you any longer so starve Troll
Lets just try it. Show me the stretching. I KNOW it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that you cant show me any. As for the new info, me either. It is going to be sweet to finally, perhaps, have some proof of intentional node crashes, devs moving BoB fleets around the map, etc. I cant wait.
Debating with you Social engineering types is like playing the knock the pins down game at the carnival
You will never win so why play
I'll leave it up to the others to show you your spin as if you didnt already know
Maybe when you get your degree in social you can buy all of us a beer eh?
Bye Bye
So, I win? Sweet!Debating with you Social engineering types is like playing the knock the pins down game at the carnival
You will never win so why play
I'll leave it up to the others to show you your spin as if you didnt already know
Maybe when you get your degree in social you can buy all of us a beer eh?
Bye Bye
Stop making idiotic comments and not expecting to be called on them.
I didn't back down on my statements and if anyones Idiotic its you and your pathetic attempt to shore up BOD's image while playacting like your a neutral entity in a remote corner of EVE space in all of this.
RE-READ my statement and absorb what I said , In a nutshell since you cannot comprehend! I said your a waste of time and I wont be bothered with you anymore not that you were right in any way Troll
I win ROD
Flame away I wont be answering you anymore since Trolls are a waste of time.
dont feed the trolls
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Dodging the question/Strawman, no one made the allegation that you crashed a node on purpose, the allegation was made that you had members who were cheating, you're answering a question that wasn't asked in hopes that the question that was asked will go away
Ad Hominem
get out.
You win the same way that Hovind wins, and I assure you that you will have many of the same victories.
Actually they did. This is one of many posts where it was either outright said, or impliled. I bet you feel stupid?
BTW, what question did i dodge?
I apologize, apparently it's too much to assume that you'll not move questions from one person's mouth to another. And the question you're dodging is "Do you have proof that goonswarm cheats?"
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[ 2007.02.20 21:49:03 ] ME > yes it does
[ 2007.02.20 21:49:20 ] HIM > lol now it does : P
[ 2007.02.20 21:49:59 ] HIM > they tried to dos shrike though
[ 2007.02.20 21:50:14 ] HIM > didn’t quite work
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:10 ] ME > lol
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:13 ] ME > why?
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:16 ] ME > tiinfoilers are amok allover – be carefull
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:21 ] HIM > why it didn’t work?
[ 2007.02.20 21:51:32 ] ME > no man why you do that?
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:11 ] HIM > I wasn’t my call… didn’t know until after
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:28 ] HIM > Everybody does it
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:40 ] HIM > But either the IP was wrong or molle was not playing shrike
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:17 ] ME > hacker nubs? :-P
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:58 ] HIM > lol no trust me. BoD does accountsharing big time
[ 2007.02.20 21:55:13 ] HIM > don’t you wonder how he gets the time to keep shrike online so much?
[ 2007.02.20 21:55:28 ] ME > unemployed nerd living in a basement with tones of time on his hand?
[ 2007.02.20 21:56:45 ] ME > tbh I don’t want to care about that
[ 2007.02.20 21:57:20 ] HIM > lol.. where’s you spirit?
[ 2007.02.20 21:57:42 ] HIM > wanna beat BoD you must do what they do! CCP doesn’t care why should i?
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I feel like this qualifies at least as much as 95% of the non-Kug proof that is spewed on these and EVEO forums. "My friend said that he was talking to a friend who has a roommate who said they saw BoB do..." I dont remember saying anyone cheated (besides T20) with any seriousness. The above was posted and noone seemed to care. I simply stated that all on this board only care about "cheating" if it is BoB doing it. If goons tried to DOS Shrike then they are morons, much the same as if BoB tried to do anything like that to Cyvok. However without PROOF noone knows. Any other questions?
[ 2007.02.21 23:49:03 ] ME > are you sure about this?
[ 2007.02.21 23:49:20 ] HIM > yes urfunny is actually a BOD member
[ 2007.02.21 23:49:59 ] HIM > is he high level?
[ 2007.02.21 23:50:14 ] HIM > yes they are doing damage control all over
[ 2007.02.21 23:51:10 ] ME > why?
[ 2007.02.21 23:51:13 ] ME > what good will it do?
[ 2007.02.21 23:51:16 ] ME > everyone knows hes a BOD already
[ 2007.02.21 23:51:21 ] HIM > They are spreading the Tinfoiler theory
[ 2007.02.21 23:51:32 ] ME >Rofl thats a waste of time
[ 2007.02.21 23:52:11 ] HIM > I know they are still trying
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:28 ] HIM > Everybody knows it
[ 2007.02.20 21:52:40 ] HIM > But they will keep Spamming anyways
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:17 ] ME > TROLL's for the loss ehh?
[ 2007.02.20 21:54:58 ] HIM >yes but they must dilute the truth anyway they can.
Etc Etc Etc
Look MOM I too can make a chat log and say it's real
But to impersonate 20 PLUS different personalities and writing styles would take months even for a expert.
This reply is to the Members here NOT!!!!!! our resident Troll urfunny
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