I missed that thread.
Originally Posted by DianabolicDid you ever expect that goons would do this well against bob? Disregard all the 'planned to have the galaxy attacking us' crap and just say, straight up, Did you expect goons to be able to push you back into one region and nearly take that region.In my opinion if CCP hadn't dropped the ball with t20 I don't think you would have pushed the rest of the cluster in to such a frenzy, nor had as much success so quickly. That being said, kudos for actually taking advantage of it and taking the hand of friendship offered by RA - that pairing was one that we always thought would cause problems and we were eventually proved right in that prediction. Of course I am now obligated to say that it wasn't just the goons that did it, but then much in eve is rarely "just" anybody.
I say nearly because if MC hadn't flaked on us you know very damn well what would've happened. Also, don't attack us until we kill smash, tia.
As for the MC comment, well, if, but, maybe, perhaps, whatever, I'm just gonna say no, we don't know "damn well" what would have happened, because there are very few outside of BoB (and even INSIDE of BoB) that thought we'd hold against the forces against us excluding MC anyway.
GL with SMASH though, please don't lose a titan to them, I think doing so would lead to drama that would even outdo the Shrike killmail heh.Originally Posted by DianabolicHydroSan posted:
"Developers need friends too."
Is there any truth to what Kugutsumen claimed back in the day about how ISD/whoever set up wargames between BoB and the CCP developers on the test server?
Not that I am aware of, no.Originally Posted by DianabolicOriginally Posted by Starbucks
xttz is XtotheZ, man I feel fucking dumb for not realising that before. I was a pretty high up member of SL, apart from that pretty much nothing, anyway something not PA related:
Why did you guys not come clean on the whole devs thing a lot earlier, or why the corps that did have them not whistle-blow it? Did they think it would not be found out or simply you did not think it that big a deal?
Oh and is Cippa working as a BoB spy?
We never ever knew that t20 had cheated. Yes, we knew we had dev's in our alliance and we often spent many hours bug hunting with them but we never, ever, abused that position. If we had known that t20 had cheated we would have been the first to blow the whistle. I certainly don't see anything wrong with dev's playing eve in player corporations - in fact I wish more of them did so, perhaps then some awful game design decisions would never have been made.
And no, Cippa is not and never has been a BoB spy.Originally Posted by DianabolicNo, but then I'm biased because I had to deal with his shit over christmas in 2006.Originally Posted by vegandefsquaddo you think kugu should be unbanned? why or why not
So, regardless of any logic or reason, fuck him.
Originally Posted by vegandeathsquadoh you worked for CCP or what?
in reality he is a really good guyYep, we certainly weren't the only ones hit, you guys got done first iirc. I believe that Lallante has been blamed for this intial infiltration (who quite amusingly is now in RKK, but I've never seen any proof of it, so meh).Originally Posted by HesiodA number of forums, including BoB's and Goonfleet's were hacked at this time. Kugu was the person blamed.
Originally Posted by HesiodI don't recall the specifics except that Lallante had paid kugu for information that outed a bunch of our spies. All of that's hearsay and I have the memory of a goldfish.I'd agree with that.Originally Posted by DreyladI'm going to take the benefit of the doubt and assume Lallante didn't realize kugu would hack people's forums to get the information he wanted, otherwise hating on kugu and not Lallante seems ridiculous.