Yup, I'm sure we will failscade over 1 fc and ~15 dudes not joining our fleets.Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Yup, I'm sure we will failscade over 1 fc and ~15 dudes not joining our fleets.
Welcome to 2 weeks ago Mittani, Nync is back with rasatan since a lot with theyr alliance nazgul , but your problem now is that even if you win vs ncdot, nobody will give credits to cfc since they hav done more dmg to themself internally than your entire coalition did externally.
ill sink into your mass addrake if you know what i mean
Since when has that ever stopped him from taking credit?Honestly though, I'm pretty sure CFC doesn't care if their PvP prowess is taken seriously or not.
When in doubt, ask Ralph:
But seriously, I say burn it, burn it all. Keep going clockwise until we meet HBC somewhere in Great Wildlands. Then have the supercap battle of all time at the sun.
what a load of horseshit, Its easy to be smug when you ride piggyback on 1000+ coalition grunts willing to mash the f1 butan at your beck and call. I'd be surprised if PL could muster 50+ dudes on a consistent basis when propping up a ally fighting a defensive battle.
Man, I missed reading Horus posts. It's like being in the locker room and having shriveled old-man balls hanging in front of your face.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
dear ncdot, i have some prime space in Catch that you can have. it's also where the rest of the nc went after they lost tribute!
Nah, we gotta camp them into 1DH for a couple weeks first. THEN they can get the catch couch for the ~full~ NC experience.
ftfy. One man's heaven is another man's death sentence.
That's the first thing they teach you in CIA training.Why is it that every time that something happens, you make it sound like you actually orchestrated the whole thing?
This shit gets confusing, you know? I need to know whether to hate you or to despise you.
Also, posting in an internet spaceship geeks generalizing about women thread.
you forget that those 50 duders is multi tasking 4-5 accounts each.(I personally do 8-9)
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
Get out. See a bit of life, please. After all, you only get one.
while I dont currently have a kickboxing gf and dont own a ferrarri , Im not really afraid of beeing called nerdI once lived for half a year out of the gym, when I was broke as fuck, playing eve from the tv room after the training sessions was over. Currently Im waiting for reply from the promotor for my first international(not rly a big deal since its illigal down here and your forced to go abroad) mma fight. But you still need to have referances and shit, and since Im not rich I prefer got stuff sponsored as much as possible.
If you mix a usually pretty broke gym rat and a nerd I guess you got me.
However only scrubs dont have several personal supers nowadays, and since you cant titan blap anymore you need blap dreads and support ships for that shit
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
What I'm trying to say is, its wrong on the part of Shadoo to point fingers at Elo when the coalition dynamics in HBC and dotbros are completely different. Shadoo/PL quite literally has the reigns on the the direction which the coalition takes while in the dotbro camp BL. and NC. assume its a equal relationship while in reality Elo, Ips and muha do bulk of the heavy lifting.
I will fight you in the dirt wildeside
Wet dirt, it will be hot as fuck
Elo was thier best FC. PERIOD. He was reliably putting up excellent fleets vs. the CFC in various timezones. Apparently thier egos are bigger than thier relationship with one another. Elite pvp has nothing whatsoever to do with diplomatic acuity and unfortunatley for them, it takes both to run a coalition. Welcome to eve...
According to some science reports I heard about, not getting skin again skin contact, over a long periode of time, will make you more likely to get depressed. Always the thing you wanna hear when someone is backmounting you.
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
Last I looked at this war the dominating dotbro TZ was AU in which the Dark and Krypt are the guys running the show. Every other TZ we are on the back foot.
Elo (like Super) definitely put 100% into the fight and will be missed!
Seems I hit a sore spot pointing out a pretty simple truth. You guys and your FCs obviously aren't build for fighting coalition wars, no need to get all huffy about it -- not many in EVE want to fight those wars. You can hubris and post all you want about HOW WE DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING, but that just illustrates to the few who know better exactly why you were never going to succeed in blockwars.
EGO is the first thing you check at the door in a block war. If you can't handle it -- you might as well go back to your ~elite pvp~ 50 man roams and ninja RFing few towers to vent your frustrations. Mittani played a metagame card on your alliance and your main FC by focusing all the success on the shoulders of Elo, and you dudes were dumb as fucking shits to fall for it. If there's one thing for anyone to smug -- it's The Mittani succeeding in an obvious metagame play to cause friction, and succeeding.
GG mittens, you got Elo measured right.
Is it possible to measure where Elo ends and the planetary mass of Wicked Princess begins?
I think its all BS anyway. It just doesn't seem to be realistic in any sense. It feels like its a big charade.
I think its some elaborate cooked up scheme to get GSF to actually undock. I mean they didn't even bring a fleet for the H-W Ihub the other day smack dab in the middle of the US TZ. What better way to get your enemy to field numbers again then feed him bait and make him believe that the North is shattering. Smoke and mirrors and all that.
And if it is true, then Shadoo is correct. Mittani made a strong play, and drove a wedge into coalition leadership. But ill believe it once I see NC. fleets and BL. Fleets actively engaging one another.
I kind of hope it is true, shooting structures ain't my thing. The more targets available the happier I am.
14day ban for being apart of the fleet that killed the razor csaa gg ccp gfuckingg
While Elo is a great FC, he wasn't/isn't the best. Elo was a great asset because he was highly active while our normal FC's aren't.
Kittans didn't have anything to do with this, even though he'll try to say he did. He's doesn't have the impact, to outsiders, as he likes to think.
What I believe Shadoo is saying, is these things happen all the time and no entity is immune from them or their effects. He's also right in stating that we aren't really built around or for protracted sovereignty/bloc wars, imo.
There were heavy CIA ops happening in Libya and Syria, they had to stay focused and the wifi is pretty shitty.
Wow, white knight Elo harder - maybe next time he'll let you watch him eat his own shit out of Wicked Princess's cunt!
what
Far more fun rf'ing Coven tech moons and making Grath rage 8)
"It pains me to say it but you are a good poster." - Vonq
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. (mittani is everywhere)
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
My body is ready
On that scale, quantum phenomenons take root, basically: Heisenberg's Uncertainity Principle.
[quote=Elitepvp]It's Elitepvp. That means we do more with less.[/quote]
Elo is great at leading fleets of people who have short attention spans. He does everything for everyone so that you can just push F1 when he tells you and troll local. He constantly fleetwarps everywhere, which is annoying as fuck for a lot of the guys in NCdot who are used to multiboxing tackle, boosters, capitals, but makes life easy if you're on a single dps ship and don't actually want to pay attention.
With that in mind, I would say he was a good dotbros FC, even newer players could feel comfortable in his fleets because he minimized the chances of them fucking up. Every FC has strengths and weaknesses, trying to claim one is the best is pretty pointless. As an NCdot pilot though, I can say for the first 4-5 months of being in the alliance, I was on two or maybe three Elo fleets. Except for those few occasions, it was NCdot FC's providing content in every TZ, and I have had more fun in the last 6 months of Eve then all the years prior.
My thoughts exactly.
:what:
mits had nothing to do with any of this. Muhadin didnt wanna be a part of this anymore, he wanted to go back to his land of milk and honey in k3. to carebear implants and do the odd 50 man roam. This allowed him and BL to retain the ''elite'' image and him to still make his isk. The chance to break this up fell into his lap and he wasted no time in going balls deep in doing so. The rest of the mess is a direct result of Muhadin pushing the issue well after he knew that was a alt he shouldnt be shooting..even Wicked (whos job it is to be a NCdot diplo) was a result of Muhadin pushing the incident into retarded levels .. much like a little boy who doest like his new step daddy.
There are other, more fun, ways to make Garth rage
Nothing burns like the cold. Winter is coming, lads. King in the North gets his.
"It pains me to say it but you are a good poster." - Vonq
I don't know, that actually sounds much better than alarm clocking AU TZ and fighting a protracted and grueling sov war against a massive coalition. I'm surprised any Black Legion (most of whom probably joined a non-blue list having, non-sov holding entity) still logged in.
You mean like when we pulled 80 or so guys on average defending the drone regions? Or the 40-50 guys we pulled on average for even the most boring part of the Delve defense, or the 60 or so guys we pulled for our own tower defense, which defense did you want used to make you feel like a simple asshole?
i guess it sounds better when you say it... this way everyone wins and get to the end faster...
The art of the win win is one Mittens seems to understand.
I disagree and agree.
Mittens slobbered all over ELO's knob in his latest propaganda story. That stuff does have an effect. It does cause a rift. So while he may have not directly pulled strings himself, his comments undoubtedly had some effect not only on the leadership he slighted but on the bulk of the pilots that leadership leads. It was no lie that ELO led very successful ops, was he the best, I can't say for certain I didn't have the opportunity to fly with many others due to my play time. But I can tell you I preferred flying with ELO over Twinky. In fact it got to the point that I just wouldn't fleet for twinky ops, because I did not like how he FC'd. Not that he was bad, I just did not enjoy his fleets, so I did not participate, no point playing if you don't find it fun.
However I do agree that no entity is immune to infighting, that is a much longer discussion however involving many points based around nature of man. As for the later portion of your statement. The coalition was doing very well as far as bloc war level metagaming is concerned. The GSF was obviously becoming demoralized, both with us burying timers in AUTZ to eliminate their numbers advantage, and then humilating those numbers advantages in numerous individual fleet victories.
The key to winning SOV wars, is morale. In a war of attrition if your pilots don't fleet up, then you lose. Considering the GSF was receding in numbers, and the DOTBROS were increasing in numbers, the war of attrition was clearly in our favor. At least until recent events, which may or may not be entirely what they seem, won't find out until BL. and NC. actually start swinging at each other.
it's not about the handful of people BL or even PL adds to fleets, the real influence comes from Elo and Shadoo
except the latter knew full well he'd spend almost a year if not longer to orchestrate -A-'s (hopefully final) downfall, while the first had no long-term plan beyond either impressing his space chick or just being coerced into fighting a sov war vOv
he's just upset because he's some ex-TEST hajji publord stuck playing in Chennai TZ
RIP Viper Rat
I believe you're wrong. There wasn't any rift caused by Kittan's article, leadership or otherwise. It was a pretty big morale boost and got many lawls to think that Kittan's actually felt that the war was being lost because of one man. People have their likes and dislikes, there are people that didn't like Elo's FC'ing style or whatever - despite your perceived affinity for seeing what's there.
DOTBros have been loosing numbers pretty steadily since the war started. There are instances where numbers spike but all in all, numbers dwindled, it was the same with the CFC as well.
People get their fill of the game/pvp or whatever. For us, number dwindle pretty fast when things start to hit structures. The battle for H-W furthered the notion that we could maintain Sov vs. astoundingly high numbers using aggressiveness and smart tactics. That gave us a boost in participation but more importantly, it slashed CFC will/numbers. Then we killed a CSAA with something in build, that's actually pretty huge. With all of that folded in with the complete turning around of the AUTZ a month back, and you now have a complete stalemate where structure are being shot and repaired by both sides.
We can argue about nuances of the comments all day. The fact is, that regardless of your opinion or mine, these comments likely did play some part in causing a rift between people. It is basic human nature to be jealous. While there were plenty of laughs at the Mittens E-Humping of ELO, I will say that without a doubt that the comments did have an effect likely in many people. But instead of boring this thread with the details of how small comments can alter the psychological make up of people I will just douche out and agree to disagree.
You gonna elaborate on this or just say "people got banned and CCP is shit"?
That presumes anyone gave a shit in the first place what he wrote, or didn't see it as a transparent ploy.
Ich bin der Kaiser und ich will Knödel!
Quesa is normally a calm and reasonable poster. By using a parody of The Mittani's name he shows us all just how deep Mittens got under their collective skins. Several questions remain: How does Muhadin and the BL. boys feel about their new Queen? Where will Twinkey go? Will he join BL. to play second fiddle to the superstar Elo Knight once again? Who will do the heavy lifting for ncdot in EU and US TZ now? How long will nulli and the 5 dudes from IRC linger in G5E for zero fights?
How exactely is it a stalemate? You've lost 5 techmoons, e-o sov and 3 ihubs in the last few days. Today you saved a few ihubs but ignored to kill sbu's, so 90% of tribute is already back in reinforced. I guess I'll save you the effort of having to answer with your own post:
Tbh if this was all caused by a minor problem, then there was a major problem lying underneath. There has obviously been some tension going on, and its the straw the broke the camels back. To do a pretty quick reset says theres a GTFO clause initiated.
@Mittens. Nah leave Vale, your pilots need something to keep them on their toes! You will be bored otherwise. GFs all around...
Well somehow the guy holds sway over the CFC, and has pilots in the HBC eating up his crazy. I am sure there are thousands of more people all over this game who get lost in his mental games. It is quite naive to believe that somehow NC. and BL. are impervious to his propaganda. Some people think he is bat shit, some people think his word is gospel truth. To believe that his propaganda had no effect is naive. Now did his comments directly lead to this little spat...impossible to say, there is the possibility that Vince got super butt hurt over taking a back seat in the picture based on Mittens article. Then again it is possible that the other side of the coin bought into the propaganda that they could do no wrong because they were being championed as the heroes of the North and that NC. would never take issue with them because of that.
But to believe that his comments were seen as transparent or laughed at by all is naive. In either regard, his ploy now appears to have worked, even if it had no bearing what so ever, thus the illusion of manipulation is in his favor. It takes him no effort to conjure up some more crazy and spin this as a successful display of how to divide your enemies internally. So even if his comments had no effect, his comments have been effective as far as political leveraging, and pages of bat shit are concerned.
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