New question, why primary all the known -A- FCs so early in your fights if you don't actually want them to run?
Wouldn't it be better to leave the hostile FCs alive and kill tons of Tengus while the hostile FCs continue to call targets uninterrupted? Same goes for jamming the FC.
I can see doing this kind of thing if you were feeling pressured to win an important fight, but considering this is really just boiling down to one side farming the other, I just don't get it frankly.
"any dictor is primary, any dictor is primary" (-a-backup target caller)
"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
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I think we mainly do it because its funny to hear them die on suncloud afterwards.
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Old eve unwritten rule is not to call FC from another fleet(that considering jamming, damping, pointing etc etc) , even sometime FCs talk with each other and agree if they run fleets to not call each other
Ppl who fly before with me (lets say in WN) know that i refuse to call Maka as primary target (and he didn't call me)
If i killed some FC in last 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 months that is because i didn't know that he is FC
Its official now. The HBC are a bunch of no honor blobbing fotmflying neckbeards.
Better retreat to Fountain
I don't think we've primaried FCs early in tengu fights recently. We always web the anchor though for obvious reasons and if thats dishonorable... vOv
if FC from other fleet is in HIC and he have bubble on you you will shoot he, i didn't say you will not shoot he at all cost, don't flip mine words..
jamming killing he damps and other shit its not ok..and i dint say that HBC is not honor, im telling for global EVE , for all alliances corporations
edit: also i dont have anythign against blobs, if i have 1000 active ppl they would all go in pvp, you cant say half come to fleet half go play passians
-shooting any target caller
-shooting people who are not so good at this game and fail to anchor or broadcast
-shooting anybody flying a tech 3 cruiser without giving them a chance to eject
-shooting sieged caps
Even though we record your comms, TRIBE has eagerly been working on getting video setup to record facial expression and arm waving during the fights on the SoCo side.
Here's a rough estimate on how SoCo camp looked like during K-6.
News flash. I paid 5 b isk to join test.
1) It's part of the game mechanics.
2) It's a tactic that has been used extensively in nullsec.
3) It generates awesome soundcloud recordings.
Anyway, they do it because they can. The funny thing is that the fcs of -A- in all their infinite wisdom have not yet found a way to deal with it. I mean you seriously tell me that out of the 300 in fleet only Makalu, Mukk, cobra2k and Trojanman are able to call targets? Do you need to go through some special training in -A- to call targets?
The question you should be asking yourself is why every time this happens, you feel the need to run instead of working around that.
It's starting to be clear now you live in a fucking fairy land with fucking fairy flower killboard stat generators engaged in some fucking fairy combat.
Vee actually does try to get us to not shoot the other gang's FC from time to time, just to get better fights. That is, however, not while in a sov fight. Fuck honourable fighting styles in sov fights, fuck it right in its mouth.
It's because Lee is a Wizzard. Fairyland exists and is perfectly accessible to him
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One of the best fleets I was in was where -A- had a spy in our comms and kept killing our FC every time someone x'd up. So, we did what anyone would do.. people started calling targets on their own. They stepped up. Because what else are you going to do, run and cry about it?
I can only think of a handful of situations (primarily durrakes) where we tried NOT to shoot the FC and even tried to rep him after him being called primary to make him think that he's doing good and logis reps are holding.
yea who cares about shooting FCs. lets shoot them and grind structures asap
Ron Mexxico - Broski North
Helios Black > not mad ron
You abandoned 3 regions in record time.
You added two alliances to the long list of allies you've shit on.
You have no friends worth mentioning.
Your FCs shit all over their own members constantly.
Even assuming you guys could click buttons and fly ships better than anyone else in EVE - your samurai bushido "it's about the killboard and good fights" bullshit attitude will never win a war in modern day eve.
What are you guys trying to accomplish? Tell me - clearly - in one sentence what you're trying to accomplish as an alliance. You do know that at the end of the day, spinning and damage control can only accomplish so much? You need to get measurable results eventually. Every engagement you lose, the ISK can't be written back into existence. Every system that flips, you can't just magically pep-talk the sovereignty back. Can you write a single self-critical statement that doesn't reek of delusion or misdirection?
"Sov and The Blob"
Allow me to preempt some of your most common talking points. Straight up, no purposeful spin here. The CFC is no longer in the South - the remnants who do show up come of their own volition and will no longer be blue to HBC in the near future. You are fighting a predominantly TEST/PL force with an amalgamation of new members who are coming on board.
What people attest to "The Blob" is diplomacy in action. I have more friends than you, therefore it's easier for me to kick your teeth in. -A- shits on its friends. You have proven time and time again that lying in bed with -A- is a risky proposition. Allow me to throw some rhetorical questions at you: What happened to Nulli Secunda? What happened to Viking Empire? What happened to Red Alliance? These are people who jumped shipped or changed sides simply because it was a better option for them. In the mean time, TEST has managed to recruit people into the HBC so fast that Montolio has garnered his own blue emote and Ghandi avatar.
Oh? What's that? You have recruitment "standards"? You don't want a billion blues? Then why did you escalate the Fountain/Delve border with your "Southern Coalition"? You standards and excuses are simply an after-the-fact defense to the truth of the matter: no one wants to be your friends anymore. Your diplomatic core is non-existent and I wouldn't be surprised if Makalu himself handles standings negotiations (hint: don't let him).
It's either that, or you're utterly retarded for getting in to a sovereignty war with not only the largest cohesive entity in EVE, but one who's members vocally and repeatedly do not give any shits about "honor" or "good fights" when it comes to alliance objectives.
Which brings me to the next bullshit excuse:
"Good Fights and Easy Kills"
I don't even know what to write here. To this date no one has shown me where -A- gets their numbers from. By all accounts I am familiar with, you are horribly losing the ISK war and the Sov war. Sure, you get a win every now and then, but even discounting the recent super losses I am quite confident saying that the HBC would be in the efficiency lead.
"Test is on farm status"? Show me the numbers, show me where this is coming from. If this is your objective, why are you alarm clocking fleets for timers? Do you honestly tell your membership "we just wanted a good fight" when you have to stand down 700 people because the turnout for the final god damn timer was more than you expected? How long do you think you can flip between all these objectives before your membership doesn't know what the fuck is going on anymore.
I've heard both of these points repeated ad nauseum but I cannot reconcile the two with your viewpoint. What I'm looking for is a simple statement that sheds some light on what -A- is trying to accomplish. Something - anything - that can prove your alliance has any real direction or decent leadership.
For instance, HBC has made it very clear that our objective at this point in time is to defend our new region. All our strategic actions are designed to accomplish this task.
I'll tell you what I think your objective is. It's desperately trying to remain relevant in a 0.0 environment that is transitioning in to two separate groups: those who have competent leadership, and those who the first group haven't gotten around to shitting on yet.
Prove me wrong.
Dont fucking sign your post.
dude you try to hard
Trolled by Lee ChanKa of all people.
Ceterum censeo -A- esse delendam
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i know for sure there is dozen solid good FCs who don't want to kill other FC because they will ruin the fun for their ppl or for hes ppl , when i say fun when gang friendly or hostile don't have FCs on field ( they are dead) gang without FCs will try to bail out and lose 3 4 5 20 ships and let say they have 100 global..but if both sides have FCs they can fight till one side is not down to 20 ppl in fleet or even less they can fight 2 3 hours instead 15 min fight.. kill their FC then kill ppl who are running because no commands and you win..
if you reed some history and fights in RL you will know what im talking...if you have enemy he will try to kill your officers on battlefield etc etc..because in a loot of world armies officers are not allowed to be marked on battlefield ( snipers from hsotiels will always look for officers) ..but before when ppl have honor it was forbiden in some armies to shoot officers on battlefield in combat, especial after combat officers (even in war prisons) was highly respected and they have different program from regular soldiers..
and for Tei Lin
M8 i don't know anything about politic in our alliance and im totally not interested in politic in global
about KB stats..Morsus Mihi have worst killboard in eve most of time ( kill loses ) but they hold Tribute 7 years and milk Tec for same time form Venal, Branch, Tenal..and was one of strongest alliance in EVE ever...so KB don't show power of some alliance that is confirmed...
So God forgives, -A- does not, unless you're an fc?
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
I don't fully understand the problem about killing FCs. Any retard can right click on an enemy and broadcast target if they don't have their hotkeys set up properly. Any idiot can FC, basically. People just have to step up and do it.
If you scare your people into not FCing then you're going to lose fights. Primarying FCs is just a tactic and it's proven extremely effective against -A-. Having only 3 or 4 people capable of target calling will do that for you.
e: a good example is transversal velocity and how Makalu just discovered how it works.
-A- is still shit though
Next time when Honeycluster Badgerfuck fights AAA. In my dream scenario. TEST would web/scramble/remote rep Lee Chanka and kill all the rest.
Then TEST would nag PL and say: Can we keep him daddy Shadoo, pretty please, we promise to take care of him.