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    Whatchoo talkin' 'bout jimmy?

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    Down with whitey

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    Black Panthers? Fo realz?

    Will the Symbianese Liberation Army be returning as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketefrau View Post
    Black Panthers? Fo realz?

    Will the Symbianese Liberation Army be returning as well?
    No, they converted to sybians and apparently are too happy to be angry.

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    According to the New Black Panther’s website, among the demands of the group are tax exemption and military service exemption for all black people as reparations for the “African Holocaust.”
    Other members of the Black Panthers have recently said they will “hunt” white peoples’ “pink asses” down and “Once they die, we should dig ‘em up, and kill ‘em again, bury ‘em, dig ‘em up, and kill ‘em again, and again, and again.”
    In a bizarre segment of the five-minute rant she blames the RNC for the totally unrelated death of a black teen in Tampa. Williams claims that the 16-year-old boy was brutally murdered by police in front of his family because of the RNC.
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    janet napolitano, call your office!

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    My younger brother is working at the Romney campaign office in Cincinnati. I went to help out one day (although I'll probably vote Obama), and I got the feeling that all of the 40 year-old men and the old women were there volunteering just because they disliked Obama for being black. nbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieTopSiders View Post
    My younger brother is working at the Romney campaign office in Cincinnati. I went to help out one day (although I'll probably vote Obama), and I got the feeling that all of the 40 year-old men and the old women were there volunteering just because they disliked Obama for being black. nbs
    At least they've stop disliking him for being a muslim and a foreigner. That's progress of a sort...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira Z View Post
    At least they've stop disliking him for being a muslim and a foreigner. That's progress of a sort...
    The Muslim and foreigner was just a cover to hide their true reasoning for disliking of him, which is the fact they don't trust a negro in the white house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira Z View Post
    At least they've stop disliking him for being a muslim and a foreigner. That's progress of a sort...
    Was it any different when you had your first black PM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieTopSiders View Post
    I got the feeling that all of the 40 year-old men and the old women were there volunteering just because they disliked Obama for being black. nbs
    you got this feeling because.. why, exactly? did someone say or do something specific? or did you use your telepathic superpowers to just know
    what everyone there was really thinking?

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    HEY MAN YOUR PERSONAL ANECDOTE YOU TOTALLY PRESENTED AS A PERSONAL ANECDOTE IS JUST A PERSONAL ANECDOTE AND NOT OBJECTIVE FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    HEY MAN YOUR PERSONAL ANECDOTE YOU TOTALLY PRESENTED AS A PERSONAL ANECDOTE IS JUST A PERSONAL ANECDOTE AND NOT OBJECTIVE FACT
    Also, Fartman's right, racism is not a factor on the right in this election.

    Nothing to see here, please move along.

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    The GOP just knows once you go black you can't go back.

    Try as you might, the black is irresistible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    Was it any different when you had your first black PM?
    I know for a fact that our last Brown PM was subjected to terrible racism from the English

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira Z View Post
    I know for a fact that our last Brown PM was subjected to terrible racism from the English
    But wait, that would mean your superiority over us would less easily justified. It would mean American whites are not alone in having issues with 'the ones who don't look/think like us'. Welcome to the human condition.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM


    Relevant and fantastic (saw it live)

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...lack-vote.html

    Jim Greer (Florida GOP Chairman)

    He was specific. At a December 2009 meeting, “the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting.” They also discussed—and this is lovely—how “minority-outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party.” But with Sharpton, he really cut loose: “There’s no doubt that what the Republican-led legislature in Florida and Governor Scott are trying to do is make sure the Republican Party has an advantage in this upcoming election by reducing early voting and putting roadblocks up for potential voters, Latinos, African-Americans to register and then to exercise their right to vote. There’s no doubt. I was in the room. It’s part of the strategy.”

    He also shot down the rationale for the new Florida law, this ginned-up “voter fraud” business: “In three and a half years as chairman in Florida, I never had one meeting where voter fraud was discussed as a real issue effecting elections. Never one time...It’s a marketing tool. That’s clearly what it is. There’s no validity to it. We never had issues with it. The main purpose behind it is to make sure that what happened in 2008 never happens again.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    But wait, that would mean your superiority over us would less easily justified. It would mean American whites are not alone in having issues with 'the ones who don't look/think like us'. Welcome to the human condition.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM


    Relevant and fantastic (saw it live)
    I think what I will term as the English Establishment for the sake of brevity would not care what colour the PM was so long as he'd been to a nice public (ie private) school and Oxford or Cambridge University. It's more of a class issue than one of race.

    It only touches on race insofar as the Celtic nations tend to be more egalitarian and consequently the Labour party tends to draw a lot of its leadership figures from Scotland and Wales. This can lead to a certain level of low level racist grumbling from upper class twits who can not distinguish between England and the United Kingdom.

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    Ahahah Rage Against The Machine just bitchslapped Paul Ryan.

    Paul Ryan "I am a huge Rage fan"

    R.A.M.: "You're the kind of person we rage against"

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    So Ryan has been caught out about the Stimulus money, initially saying he hadn't asked for any in his district, then the letters revealing he had were released, and now he is backpedalling furiously by blaming his office staff: http://leanforward.msnbc.com/_news/2...ulus-hypocrisy He maintains the stimulus didn't work, yet as a direct result of the money he [s]didn't[/s]did ask for nearly 8000 jobs were created or retained in his district.

    In his first interview with Fox he was asked whether Romney's budget plan would balance the budget, his response was "we haven't run the numbers on that specific plan." http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/08...an-admi/189369 The centrepiece of their platform, and they haven't run the numbers to see what effect it would have. Amazing.

    He also blames Obama for a Auto plant which closed during Bush's term: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed

    This guy is a fucking goldmine

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    Sarah Palin doesn't seem like such a poor choice anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Sarah Palin doesn't seem like such a poor choice anymore
    I actually said the exact same thing to somebody yesterday.

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    Outside of the presidential elections, Ryan's plan may also hurt the GOPs control over the House, since the Dems seem to be centralizing their congressional elections around it. However it won't be enough for them to take the majority but still a blow if successful.. Also its nice to see that Indy might go Democrat when it comes to senate elections, fucking Murdoch needs to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Sarah Palin doesn't seem like such a poor choice anymore
    She would lead us through the 20th century!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Sarah Palin doesn't seem like such a poor choice anymore
    Disagree. Ryan, for everything he may be, is an intelligent individual. I don't have the fear of Romney/Ryan as I did of Palin possibly becoming a president. Ryan has at least been in Washington for 13 years. He may be horrible at his job, only 2 bills of his have ever become law... one renaming a Postal Office and the other a reduction on the tax for making Arrows... but he is at least familiar with Washington.
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Whatever side you stand on in this election, you should watch this excellent piece of trolling.


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    Biden is no worse then Bush Jr. when it comes to hilarious fuck ups. Actually that's one thing I actually liked about Bush, his policies where shit but he was hilarious.
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    Oh I dunno, I may support Obama but goddamn if Biden doesn't fuck up every time he opens his mouth. I think its funny, but obviously some of his gaffes are a bit serious in nature.
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    "Mitt Romney And Paul Ryan" is an anagram for "My Ultimate Ayn Rand Porn"

    Illuminati level shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    Disagree. Ryan, for everything he may be, is an intelligent individual. I don't have the fear of Romney/Ryan as I did of Palin possibly becoming a president.
    Yeah, on this point I have to agree. The possibility of Ryan being able to order a nuclear strike is not going to keep me up nights the way the possibility of Sarah Palin being able to did.

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    I was being glib. But even so, in a defcon one situation there's not a lot of variables to juggle. Shit already hit the fan. A chimp with a dartboard could probably see us through that in a reasonably satisfactory manner.

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    That is to say; where Sarah Palin would be incapable of even remembering the code to the football suitcase, Ryan seems like just the right combination of dishonest ideology regurgitator and semi-competent puke-in-a-suit to take us to the brink of nuclear annihilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    A chimp with a dartboard could probably see us through that in a reasonably satisfactory manner.
    The only way to win is not to play at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    That is to say; where Sarah Palin would be incapable of even remembering the code to the football suitcase, Ryan seems like just the right combination of dishonest ideology regurgitator and semi-competent puke-in-a-suit to take us to the brink of nuclear annihilation.
    He seems on board with attacking Iran and intervening in Syria, so its a good possibility.

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    Semi-serious question, why does it seem like in every picture, Boehner looks like hes about to cry? Dude has some emotional issues.
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    His name is Boehner


    I'd cry too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    His name is Boehner


    I'd cry too
    This is true, my computers spell checker keeps wanting to change his name to Boner.
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    According to the London Times, Paul Ryan is in Florida trying to explain to the Retirement State why slashing their medical coverage across the board is a good thing.

    Hilarity no doubt ensues.

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    London Times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    London Times?
    "The Times" in the US usually means the NY Times, the British "The Times", ie the Murdoch owned one is therefore referred to as "the London Times".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    "The Times" in the US usually means the NY Times, the British "The Times", ie the Murdoch owned one is therefore referred to as "the London Times".
    Yeah, it's the NY Times' vastly superior counterpart.

    Seriously though, if you ever have the opportunity to compare them side-by-side, London Times just owns the shit out of all other papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    Yeah, it's the NY Times' vastly superior counterpart.

    Seriously though, if you ever have the opportunity to compare them side-by-side, London Times just owns the shit out of all other papers.
    Actually, it's part of the same organisation that brought you Fox News. I think it's also caught up in the phone hacking scandal, although not to the extent that the News of the World was.

    As a final note, Murdoch himself holds more space in his heart for The Sun. This probably tells you a lot about Australians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira Z View Post
    Actually, it's part of the same organisation that brought you Fox News. I think it's also caught up in the phone hacking scandal, although not to the extent that the News of the World was.

    As a final note, Murdoch himself holds more space in his heart for The Sun. This probably tells you a lot about Australians...
    Michael Jackson allegedly molested young boys in his private theme park and once dangled his infant son off a balcony, but that man could dance.

    Likewise, just because the paper is stamped by Murdoch doesn't mean it's the pile of shit that FOX News is. Also, you're confusing The London Times with News Of the World. Give it a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    Michael Jackson allegedly molested young boys in his private theme park and once dangled his infant son off a balcony, but that man could dance.

    Likewise, just because the paper is stamped by Murdoch doesn't mean it's the pile of shit that FOX News is. Also, you're confusing The London Times with News Of the World. Give it a look.
    The practice spread outwards from the News of the World to the other News International titles. As it happens, it was actually emails that a Times reporter had hacked:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/vide...-harding-video

    As for the overall quality of the paper, it's instinctively conservative with a small c and inclined to let that flavour its world view. If I walked into a newsagent today, there's a least 3 other quality (the term broadsheet no longer applies) papers that I would pick up first before reaching for The Times.

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    The British color of conservatism is "We're spending money on THAT?" whereas American conservatism is "THEY TOOK OUR JAERBS." Big difference.

    Plus the Sunday edition has pretty awesome magazine issues and the most epic Sudoku section I've ever seen.

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    I always found it interesting that people in other countries often have stronger opinions on who we elect than we do.

    Personally, I think Ryan is doing a fair job with the piggy bank commentary. It's almost like he and Romney wanted to compare the cuts to medicare in Ryan's plan vs the cuts in Obamacare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    I always found it interesting that people in other countries often have stronger opinions on who we elect than we do.

    Personally, I think Ryan is doing a fair job with the piggy bank commentary. It's almost like he and Romney wanted to compare the cuts to medicare in Ryan's plan vs the cuts in Obamacare.
    Except from the fact that the "cuts" in Obamacare aren't cuts: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/op...pagewanted=all

    People in other countries are interested in US politics because it plays out like a farcical tv show, yet its real and has real world consequences for people outside of the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    Except from the fact that the "cuts" in Obamacare aren't cuts: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/op...pagewanted=all

    People in other countries are interested in US politics because it plays out like a farcical tv show, yet its real and has real world consequences for people outside of the US.
    It's like the political equivalent of one of those car-crash reality TV shows, only with magic underwear. What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    The British color of conservatism is "We're spending money on THAT?" whereas American conservatism is "THEY TOOK OUR JAERBS." Big difference.

    Plus the Sunday edition has pretty awesome magazine issues and the most epic Sudoku section I've ever seen.
    The Times is pretty bad, and I fear for the state of your print media when it's being held up as a shining example of journalistic integrity. That said, all papers have their flaws - at least it's no Daily Mail, a "quality" paper with a worldview that is imo pretty unsettling and bordering on hateful (http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/ The Mail headline generator which, while a piss-take, gives you a flavour for the sheer levels of coming out of that paper). Or, god forbid, the Daily Express... your one stop shop for Princess Diana conspiracy theories!

    ...actually upon review The Times is a shining slice of brilliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    Except from the fact that the "cuts" in Obamacare aren't cuts: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/op...pagewanted=all

    People in other countries are interested in US politics because it plays out like a farcical tv show, yet its real and has real world consequences for people outside of the US.
    It's like the political equivalent of one of those car-crash reality TV shows, only with magic underwear. What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    Except from the fact that the "cuts" in Obamacare aren't cuts: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/op...pagewanted=all

    People in other countries are interested in US politics because it plays out like a farcical tv show, yet its real and has real world consequences for people outside of the US.
    Fuck you for posting a link to a login.

    Login free:
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/gibbs-...6#.UDFRuqPhcxc

    http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/19...ty-blunts.html

    The cuts are targeted at insurance companies and hospitals, not beneficiaries. Whether they’ll reduce services in future years is an open question.
    That's like saying "We're not taking away your benefits but you can't blame us if those evil doctors decide they won't operate at a loss"


    The first Democratic talking point: Ryan’s Medicare plan signed off on the very Obamacare cuts that Republicans are now bashing.

    So they both do the same thing but it's really inconvenient for the current administration to own up to it just yet.



    Personally, I'm hoping one of the consequences (assuming a Romney win) is cutting off almost all military welfare.

    I sometimes wonder how much our host countries budgets depend on having free mercenaries (US soldiers) providing for a large part of their security. If you only have to pay for a very small military plus reserves, it may leave you able to afford large welfare programs.

    I actually agree with our detractors that the US spends far too much on the military and its associated industrial complex. We'd be far better to reduce our presence to a few extra-US bases. The world would be a better place, too.

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