TheMittani dot com - Bringing balance to the world of Eve news

**Dsan** · 2012-08-15

ITT we discuss themittani.com news articles and correct them ?
If so, I expect this thread to get well over 9000 pages..

**anuuu** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller

Hopefully you understand the context: XiX flies T3s ineffectively, which is part of why we kill them so often. If they aren't flown ineffectively, they're quite good in fleet fights. But of course you missed that because your standards of professional writing are much superior to mine, tell me more about being a boring writer.

I don't care about how good XiX are, and this isn't about me or grammar. I called you out because writing and carrying on in such a vitriolic tone aren't doing your writing or "the site" any favors. Do you really think that "downs" is a funny word?

eee: writing retarded instead of downs wouldn't make your shit more fun or better so w/e

**anuuu** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Endie

Yeah I struggled with whether to alter that bit, and maybe I made the wrong call in not initially doing so. My worry was that the perception would be that I went around protecting people who were blue to Goons from any nasty words. People in Eve don't all like each other or banter with politely Wildean phrases in their gentlemens' club.

I've compromised by changing the insult slightly: I've edited most of the articles here and there in little ways, so that's not unusual, and in this case I think I kept the intent but made the joke a little more elegant.

I understand the concern but hovering above the shit that usually goes around would probably be funnier and a lot more interesting. Writing elegant is a good goal, you should set some editorial standards that apply to ALL sides.

**Mynt** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by anuuu

I don't care about how good XiX are, and this isn't about me or grammar. I called you out because writing and carrying on in such a vitriolic tone aren't doing your writing or "the site" any favors. Do you really think that "downs" is a funny word?

eee: writing retarded instead of downs wouldn't make your shit more fun or better so w/e

Being a dick through the use of excessive and (sometimes) wisely chosen words is a long honored practice in the realm of literature, e.g Alexander Pope, motherfucker. If you can't look past the wrapping to appreciate the content at heart, you need chill out and reflect on the fact that some things are not purely superficial. Take this post for example: its apparent intent is to point your excessive amount of butthurt over something essentially trivial, but in reality it's advice on how to appreciate the finer things in life.

**anuuu** · 2012-08-15

And how is the form not related to meaning if you want to talk literature?

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-15

How is style not related to context? Are we still talking about EVE Online: Tin Foil Hats vs. Smuglords?

**anuuu** · 2012-08-15

Context ? meaning. But yeah fuck this. I don't know if you care but you could be better.

**Endie** · 2012-08-15

itt we discuss Saussure and the difference between sign, signifier, signified and referent.

**WNxWolfy** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by anuuu

I don't care about how good XiX are, and this isn't about me or grammar. I called you out because writing and carrying on in such a vitriolic tone aren't doing your writing or "the site" any favors. Do you really think that "downs" is a funny word?

eee: writing retarded instead of downs wouldn't make your shit more fun or better so w/e

It does kind of make it funnier
Like calling people aspies
Heh, aspies.

e: For good measure, I can't see myself disagreeing with the fact that they have down's after they tried bombing us while we were sitting inside our POS shields.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by anuuu

Context ? meaning. But yeah fuck this. I don't know if you care but you could be better.

Constructive criticism is always welcome, but if you can't see the difference between writing for the New Yorker and writing for an EVE news site, I can't really say anything to change your mind.

**anuuu** · 2012-08-15

I'll be less

next time, I actually appreciated "the content" of what you wrote even if it isn't apparent from my comments. Sorry for fucking up your thread Endie.

**jimmychrist** · 2012-08-15

This debate is downs

**jimmychrist** · 2012-08-15

Also, retarded

**Serra** · 2012-08-15

Site looks pretty slick. If you get a good number of regular writes from different perspectives (not just CFC/HBC or kugu regulars) it could really get popular.

I really hope you can coax some articles/battlereports from parties that generally shy away from kugu/en24. For example the whole russian community remains mostly a mystery to me (solar, etc).

**ein** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Serra

I really hope you can coax some articles/battlereports from parties that generally shy away from kugu/en24. For example the whole russian community remains mostly a mystery to me (solar, etc).

Yeah diversifying the content beyond 0.0 with things like wormholes, FW, some economic articles e.g. the effects of the mining buff on markets would help draw in a wider audience.

**Checkbox Poll** · 2012-08-15

my favorite part has been the book reviews although they could be a bit more in depth.

**Don Peyote** · 2012-08-15

Why is this thread stickied?

**Night** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Why is this thread stickied?

Because we all not-so-secretly hate EN24 and thus leap upon any bandwagon against it.

Or Mittens is still a mod, either way?

**Fix Lag** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Why is this thread stickied?

I got a little excited

**tgr** · 2012-08-15

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Why is this thread stickied?

The question is not why is it stickied, but why shouldn't it be stickied.

**Elektrea** · 2012-08-16

Originally Posted by tgr

The question is not why is it stickied, but why shouldn't it be stickied.

Shitty site name.

**Dego** · 2012-08-16

themartini.com

**Faldal** · 2012-08-16

I read a few articels and i have to admit that they are not that bad. But to be honest....this is probably the worst name you could ever choose for the site.
This site will be one-sided again because most of the people commenting und trolling around will be CFC/HBC guys and they will shit on anything serious coming from another side. So there will be no real participation from other people.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-16

Originally Posted by Faldal

I read a few articels and i have to admit that they are not that bad. But to be honest....this is probably the worst name you could ever choose for the site.
This site will be one-sided again because most of the people commenting und trolling around will be CFC/HBC guys and they will shit on anything serious coming from another side. So there will be no real participation from other people.

You obviously didn't read the Black Legion article and furthermore get out nerd.

**MindRanger** · 2012-08-16

Did we have any Godwin comments yet? If not, here we go :

Mittani is now Joseph Goebbels of CCP (or was it EVE)...

Here, I made a PR video for you : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzCQMEBBTY

Let me know and I'll add your new URL as a comment on it...

**Malcanis** · 2012-08-16

Originally Posted by Faldal

I read a few articels and i have to admit that they are not that bad. But to be honest....this is probably the worst name you could ever choose for the site.
This site will be one-sided again because most of the people commenting und trolling around will be CFC/HBC guys and they will shit on anything serious coming from another side. So there will be no real participation from other people.

Why don't you submit an "articel"?

**Don Peyote** · 2012-08-16

Originally Posted by Faldal

I read a few articels and i have to admit that they are not that bad. But to be honest....this is probably the worst name you could ever choose for the site.
This site will be one-sided again because most of the people commenting und trolling around will be CFC/HBC guys and they will shit on anything serious coming from another side. So there will be no real participation from other people.

You just described Kugutsumen.com - a Goonfleet subsidiary

**Banlish** · 2012-08-16

So I got 5 EVE mails, 3 emails and 2 txt messages that have basically said "ZOMG Banlish, go register and ask to be a writer on TheMittani.com, it's a new site that people need writers for." Makes ya feel good when people like your writings.

**Scotch** · 2012-08-16

Can I submit a review of 'Jurassic Park'?

**Aokisensei** · 2012-08-16

http://themittani.com/features/real-rydis

Shocking, tell-all ~expose~ on Skymarshall Rydis

**Kevin** · 2012-08-17

T'was a little bit thin but the main point was about women gamers, i think, using rydis as an example.

**Malcanis** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by Banlish

So I got 5 EVE mails, 3 emails and 2 txt messages that have basically said "ZOMG Banlish, go register and ask to be a writer on TheMittani.com, it's a new site that people need writers for." Makes ya feel good when people like your writings.

ZOMG Banlish, go register and ask to be a writer on TheMittani.com, it's a new site that people need writers for!

For a start, why not sumbit your last outpost update? That's the kind of non-aligned quality information analysis people love to read.

**SoCoalist** · 2012-08-17

This site is up for what 3-4 days and you already are publishing stuff that from a point of view of "news" don't have any worth. You think that to the EVE community it really matters a song about tears, about a certain FC ?

I bet with you that probably 80% of EVE never heard about that FC and really doesn't give a dam about it.

So here's a free advice, leave as fast as you can this editorial line that will worth you a lot of good comments in Kugutsumen, but will worth 0 (zero) recognition outside.

There are tons of things that you can speak about about in EVE, besides "FC space tears", as information that article worths again a big zero I bet people are more eager to read stuff about how is alchemy going to hurt or not their wallets, if tec2 ships are going to fall or not in price, regional conflicts, piracy, FW, 0.0 battles, W space etc etc.

**Chopin** · 2012-08-17

I like to read/listen about eve personalities. It's actually what brought me to kugu in the first place, the xutech interviews. If you've never heard of them, that's more your loss for not reading the history of eve than anybody else's.

It also offers alternatives to the day in-day out business of eve. It's a breathe of fresh air tbh. You should probably stop crying.

**Skabbor** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by SoCoalist

This site is up for what 3-4 days and you already are publishing stuff that from a point of view of "news" don't have any worth. You think that to the EVE community it really matters a song about tears, about a certain FC ?

I bet with you that probably 80% of EVE never heard about that FC and really doesn't give a dam about it.

So here's a free advice, leave as fast as you can this editorial line that will worth you a lot of good comments in Kugutsumen, but will worth 0 (zero) recognition outside.

There are tons of things that you can speak about about in EVE, besides "FC space tears", as information that article worths again a big zero I bet people are more eager to read stuff about how is alchemy going to hurt or not their wallets, if tec2 ships are going to fall or not in price, regional conflicts, piracy, FW, 0.0 battles, W space etc etc.

If you look up at the top there's a row there, this row has different headers, such as "News" and "Features". The latter is not to be confused with the former. There's also one called "Media", care to guess what kind of content goes in there? And Endie has repeatedly stated that they'd like someone from SoCo to write pieces but apparently you fellas don't want to do that.

**tgr** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by Skabbor

If you look up at the top there's a row there, this row has different headers, such as "News" and "Features". The latter is not to be confused with the former. There's also one called "Media", care to guess what kind of content goes in there? And Endie has repeatedly stated that they'd like someone from SoCo to write pieces but apparently you fellas don't want to do that.

It's a goonspiracy to spy on them.

**Jafit** · 2012-08-17

Test, being the tryhard goon wannabes we are, are launching our own news website as well.

Attachment 3243

http://www.magicide.com/montolio/

**Berious** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller

You obviously didn't read the Black Legion article and furthermore get out nerd.

He's right though it's like trying to start a forum for high-minded discussion about American politics called "Liebral scum want to force you to gay marry on a collective farm.com"

**raw** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by Jafit

Test, being the tryhard goon wannabes we are, are launching our own news website as well.

Attachment 3243

http://www.magicide.com/montolio/

**Malcanis** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by SoCoalist

This site is up for what 3-4 days and you already are publishing stuff that from a point of view of "news" don't have any worth. You think that to the EVE community it really matters a song about tears, about a certain FC ?

I bet with you that probably 80% of EVE never heard about that FC and really doesn't give a dam about it.

So here's a free advice, leave as fast as you can this editorial line that will worth you a lot of good comments in Kugutsumen, but will worth 0 (zero) recognition outside.

There are tons of things that you can speak about about in EVE, besides "FC space tears", as information that article worths again a big zero I bet people are more eager to read stuff about how is alchemy going to hurt or not their wallets, if tec2 ships are going to fall or not in price, regional conflicts, piracy, FW, 0.0 battles, W space etc etc.

So write an article and submit it.

**tgr** · 2012-08-17

http://www.magicide.com/montolio/new...ackled-station

"-A- blue blue blue"

**Chopin** · 2012-08-17

Blue.

**true** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by SoCoalist

This site is up for what 3-4 days and you already are publishing stuff that from a point of view of "news" don't have any worth. You think that to the EVE community it really matters a song about tears, about a certain FC ?

I bet with you that probably 80% of EVE never heard about that FC and really doesn't give a dam about it.

So here's a free advice, leave as fast as you can this editorial line that will worth you a lot of good comments in Kugutsumen, but will worth 0 (zero) recognition outside.

There are tons of things that you can speak about about in EVE, besides "FC space tears", as information that article worths again a big zero I bet people are more eager to read stuff about how is alchemy going to hurt or not their wallets, if tec2 ships are going to fall or not in price, regional conflicts, piracy, FW, 0.0 battles, W space etc etc.

Hello I regret to inform you that media doesn't work like you want it to work.

**Madz Negro** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by Chopin

Blue.

I'm convinced Monty listens to this on repeat in his sleep.

**true** · 2012-08-17

Throughout the game's history It's been an anthem of every winning side of EVE.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-17

Originally Posted by SoCoalist

This site is up for what 3-4 days and you already are publishing stuff that from a point of view of "news" don't have any worth. You think that to the EVE community it really matters a song about tears, about a certain FC ?

I bet with you that probably 80% of EVE never heard about that FC and really doesn't give a dam about it.

So here's a free advice, leave as fast as you can this editorial line that will worth you a lot of good comments in Kugutsumen, but will worth 0 (zero) recognition outside.

There are tons of things that you can speak about about in EVE, besides "FC space tears", as information that article worths again a big zero I bet people are more eager to read stuff about how is alchemy going to hurt or not their wallets, if tec2 ships are going to fall or not in price, regional conflicts, piracy, FW, 0.0 battles, W space etc etc.

Your opinion is valuable to us, so we made a video expressing our sincere apologies.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-17

Also, to contradict your claim that we aren't covering FW, here you go:

http://themittani.com/news/faction-w...rawl-kourmonen

**The Mittani** · 2012-08-18

Originally Posted by anuuu

Context ? meaning. But yeah fuck this. I don't know if you care but you could be better.

I am better than you.

Wait, what were we talking about?

**Kanloch** · 2012-08-18

See if you can get Xenuria to do an article, he has very interesting views on EVE politics.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-08-18

Originally Posted by Kanloch

See if you can get Xenuria to do an article, he has very interesting views on EVE politics.

[ 2012.08.18 01:11:46 ] Xenuria > you owe me 5 billion isk.
?[ 2012.08.18 01:11:54 ] Arlaya DuSharpe > you are so full of crap
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:00 ] Lucia Denniard > I don't see Genos having anything to do with PL
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:00 ] Arlaya DuSharpe > but go ahead
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:06 ] Xenuria > ok
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:06 ] Lucia Denniard > unless PL used to be called HYDRA RELOADED

[ 2012.08.18 01:12:21 ] Xenuria > Hydra and PL are like fedora and trilby
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:29 ] Xenuria > Same thing
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:31 ] Arlaya DuSharpe > you look stupid wearing both?
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:34 ] Arlaya DuSharpe > sorry
?[ 2012.08.18 01:12:43 ] Arlaya DuSharpe > you look stupid trying to wear both?

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