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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhenka View Post
    Mort. I have never seen a CFC pilot deny it. Ask any of them if free replacement ships, no corp fee's and nearly always being on the winning side in the end were a factor in choosing a CFC alliance. They will say yes.
    Even major denial can only go so far.

    That's for us people without tech / in the process of losing tech.


    Edit: Dear Cthulu, how many people are haunting this thread, 4 posts in 2 minutes?
    Dunno, I've seen posts where random people talk about how great CFC is because of their amazing leadership, their cunning spy network and their excellent logistics, etc. Fuck that, its the unlimited isk that comes from tech that gives them such an overwhelming advantage.

    Those were the grunts I was referring to. Now granted, those people don't read/post on kugu, so maybe I missed the target audience. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhenka View Post
    Mort. I have never seen a CFC pilot deny it. Ask any of them if free replacement ships, no corp fee's and nearly always being on the winning side in the end were a factor in choosing a CFC alliance. They will say yes.
    Not in my case. While it does make losing a ship a less painful affair, the humour on comms is more what kept me with goons after we lost delve/querious/period basis, and I've yet to see a single reason to leave.

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    Whenever you ask a soco or other coalition pilots why they didnt join CFC its usually some poorly worded hurfblurf about honor, scamming, and goons being "evil".

    I hate to say it, but I think TEST and Goons actually have higher standards (of intelligence) than -a- and friends.
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    I am very pleased with being able to fly ships for basically free. Then again, I have never been a member of an alliance NOT supported by technetium, so I can't say I "sold out." I just joined Morsus Mihi back in the day because one of the corps was recruiting and it seemed easy to get there from high sec

    e: I didn't know what technetium or moon mining was either, I just assumed they reimbursed ships from some magical pot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mort View Post
    Dunno, I've seen posts where random people talk about how great CFC is because of their amazing leadership, their cunning spy network and their excellent logistics, etc. Fuck that, its the unlimited isk that comes from tech that gives them such an overwhelming advantage.

    Those were the grunts I was referring to. Now granted, those people don't read/post on kugu, so maybe I missed the target audience. My bad.
    Yes, we weren't good before we got tech. We sucked at diplomacy, our leadership blew goats, we didn't have a spy network which could spy its way out of a wet paper bag, and we definitely couldn't do any logistics. But when we got tech, suddenly we turned into diplomacy gods, our spies suddenly turned into 007, and we're logisticizing ourselves into (and out of) fort knox.

    Or you're just a dumbass thinking the world is flat and tech is everything. vOv

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    To be fair you're leadership before tech was DARIUSJOHNSON.

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    LISTEN TO ME MY SOUTHERN BROTHERS/HOBOS/TRICUNTS/BLACKELOS, LISTEN WELL

    THE GOONIES ARE BUT ONE STEP FROM GOD, THEY MAY BE RICH BECAUSE OF TECH BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WHEN THE NERF CAME HIS HOLYNESS THE MITTANI DECREED THAT THE FIRST MONEY SAVING MEASURE TO GO WAS SUPER CAP FREEBIES TO THE BITTER VETS WHO DONT LOGIN.

    FRIENDS THEY CARE ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN, THE MAN ON THE STREET FIGHTING FOR WHATS RIGHT, THEY CARE ABOUT THE BIG RED BOATS MINIONS! NOT ONLY DID THEY KEEP IN FLEET REIMBURSEMENTS THEY TOOK IT ONE STEP FURTHER AND ALSP KEPT PEACETIME REIMBURSEMENTS, OK MAYBE THERE WAS SOME DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF REGIONS ALLOWED BUT THIS IS BUT A SMALL PRICE FOR GREECE TO PAY.

    WHY THE FUCK AM I HOLDING SHIFT TO TYPE ALL THIS OUT

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    Christ on a fucking bike shut up you tag-a-long tryhard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Christ on a fucking bike shut up you tag-a-long tryhard
    His sycophant postings certainly makes one question the accuracy of Grims post.

    I even find myself missing the old NC Opti-posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headblast View Post
    His sycophant postings certainly makes one question the accuracy of Grims post.

    I even find myself missing the old NC Opti-posts.
    You know how it goes, there's always the one exception that proves the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Christ on a fucking bike shut up you tag-a-long tryhard
    Don't blame Opti for his problems, he is a victim of circumstance

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    Yes, we weren't good before we got tech. We sucked at diplomacy, our leadership blew goats, we didn't have a spy network which could spy its way out of a wet paper bag, and we definitely couldn't do any logistics. But when we got tech, suddenly we turned into diplomacy gods, our spies suddenly turned into 007, and we're logisticizing ourselves into (and out of) fort knox.

    Or you're just a dumbass thinking the world is flat and tech is everything. vOv
    But tech IS everything.</sarcasm>

    I'm just saying that once you got tech, you started relying on it and now are completely dependent on it. Take the tech money away and you'll see how far you've fallen. Do you think CFC would be able to survive if you take away their tech-funded SRP? Would you be able to field 1000 man fleets if everyone had to put their own ships at risk? No fucking way. If you'd take your head out of your ass once in awhile, maybe you'd see what others see. vOv

    Actually, forget I said anything. Stay the way you are, I am enjoying killing you guys every night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdul View Post
    At this point, nobody gives a shit if it's a win or loss. As it stands, the game is pretty much fun and has been amazing for retarded FC's like myself to go aginst NC./BL etc and get some gametime in.

    Did the CFC win? From my vantage, yep. Cause people like Soho are faggots with their gay bombers and can't fight like real men. While faggots like Elo knight won't brawl with us and instead just skirmish round in his faggoty Tier 3 snipers thinking he's all ~eleet pvp~.

    Oh, and Quesa can't fly a tengu for the life of him so he's bad too. CFC > NOTEC

    wooohooo...
    The problem with this post is, I can't tell if it's a 1/10 troll, or if this is just another Zagdul post.

    The fact that this shit hasn't been called out 10 times already doesn't narrow it down at all unfortunately.

    Just in case it's not a troll ... no, no it's a troll, it has to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headblast View Post
    His sycophant postings certainly makes one question the accuracy of Grims post.

    I even find myself missing the old NC Opti-posts.
    Despite his terrible posting Opti would be the top tier poster in -a- (after DSAN left of course).
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    maybe instead of discussing me with distain you should all be less jealous off the mittani being a rich space overlord no doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mort View Post
    But tech IS everything.</sarcasm>

    I'm just saying that once you got tech, you started relying on it and now are completely dependent on it. Take the tech money away and you'll see how far you've fallen. Do you think CFC would be able to survive if you take away their tech-funded SRP? Would you be able to field 1000 man fleets if everyone had to put their own ships at risk? No fucking way. If you'd take your head out of your ass once in awhile, maybe you'd see what others see. vOv
    We'll be here in a year, watching you eat your words as we've absolutely no problem coping with the "oh god we've no tech" scenario.

    Quote Originally Posted by mort View Post
    Actually, forget I said anything. Stay the way you are, I am enjoying killing you guys every night.
    Ok, guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    maybe instead of discussing me with distain you should all be less jealous off the mittani being a rich space overlord no doubt
    Are you being paid to make the worst posts imaginable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mort View Post
    I'm just saying that once you got tech, you started relying on it and now are completely dependent on it. Take the tech money away and you'll see how far you've fallen. Do you think CFC would be able to survive if you take away their tech-funded SRP? Would you be able to field 1000 man fleets if everyone had to put their own ships at risk? No fucking way. If you'd take your head out of your ass once in awhile, maybe you'd see what others see. vOv
    I think you are putting your finger on an interesting issue here - when goons held Delve after the fall of BoB there was a lot of publicly voiced concern about their position (great space, winning eve) attracting lots of "pubbies" which were expected to dilute the alliance identity and leave as soon as things get tough.
    And at least as far as I know that concern turned out to be valid - once Delve was lost and goons relocated to NPC space their activity levels dropped rapidly as many of their fair-weather friends simply stopped logging in.

    However, I can't recall hearing any such concerns voiced in a serious fashion ever since Goonswarm took over Deklein and the whole "true goons" vs "pubbies" (mind you, pubbies with SA accounts) issue seems to be dead now (which makes me think that the "pubbies" won as bittervets don't shut up easily on their own). 3-4 years ago it was goons themselves making such posts as yours, not their enemies.

    It would be interesting to hear some opinions on what caused that change of heart - was it the masses of pubbies themselves changing the face & culture of Goonswarm? can it be attributed to the change in leadership? is it due to Goonswarm as an alliance growing much larger than just Goonfleet/GoonWaffe? some transformative experience after the loss of Delve?

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    Let me help clear things up a bit since people seem to NOT be able to actually read the forums.

    1) If CFC wanted/wants to take Trubute, they'll get it.
    2) Zagdul IS a chill dude and we enjoy his company on TS from time to time.
    3) Sure, we care about the Tech moons but we care more about the fights.
    4) Goons, or any member of the former OTEC, won't run out of ISK anytime soon, to even try to elude to that makes you look dumb.
    5) Our bombs will blot out the sun and they'll force you to fight in the shade. (Yeah, corny and horrible)
    6) I can confirm that I suck and flying Tengu's.


    *I reserve the right to change my opinion at anytime, so go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diotima Saraki View Post
    And at least as far as I know that concern turned out to be valid - once Delve was lost and goons relocated to NPC space their activity levels dropped rapidly as many of their fair-weather friends simply stopped logging in.
    That's not what happened, what happened were that DariusJOHNSON stomped around like a raging bull in a chinashop and kicked out a few corps for arbitrary reasons. I was in one of the corps who got kicked out in that trip through the shop, but the instant I had an inkling I might be able to join a corp which was in goonswarm, I was back. This was pre-tech and pre-deklein, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Are you being paid to make the worst posts imaginable?
    For the right price I can do far worse.
    [05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks

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    Just kidding, my posts are priceless.
    [05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks

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    I'm totally okay with bombs blotting out the sun, I burn easily thanks to hours spent mashing f5 in the basement

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    The problem with this post is, I can't tell if it's a 1/10 troll, or if this is just another Zagdul post.

    The fact that this shit hasn't been called out 10 times already doesn't narrow it down at all unfortunately.

    Just in case it's not a troll ... no, no it's a troll, it has to be.
    Ahhh fuck... I knew I forgot one e-celeb who was on field.

    Was that you leading those gay ass low sig ahax against our maelstroms?

    You can now join the list of the wannabe ~eleet pvp~.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    Let me help clear things up a bit since people seem to NOT be able to actually read the forums.

    1) If CFC wanted/wants to take Trubute, they'll get it.
    2) Zagdul IS a chill dude and we enjoy his company on TS from time to time.
    3) Sure, we care about the Tech moons but we care more about the fights.
    4) Goons, or any member of the former OTEC, won't run out of ISK anytime soon, to even try to elude to that makes you look dumb.
    5) Our bombs will blot out the sun and they'll force you to fight in the shade. (Yeah, corny and horrible)
    6) I can confirm that I suck and flying Tengu's.


    *I reserve the right to change my opinion at anytime, so go fuck yourself.
    Dude, people sperging in this thread is great. You're ruining it.



    e:The best is if you go look at the neg-rep. That can't be removed, even if they edit their posts. I'm rolling my ass off at it.

    I actually got a 'mad mad mad mad' comment on one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Are you being paid to make the worst posts imaginable?
    optis badposting isn't just something you can "buy" - it comes from the heart.



















    i'm bad at human anatomy, but i think it's the heart

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    So's a whiny bitch.

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    Opti is not that bad, have you guys read the en24 comment section.

    GET FUCKED CUNT.. My G/F plays eve, isn't an attempted 'celebrity' (my god, she would kill herself is she was some nerd fap chick lol)

    We hate this bitch cos she is retarded and talks shit. Not because she is a woman.
    I hate you cos you are a try hard PC faggot trying to look superior cos you 'aint sexist'
    I'm not sexist OR homophobic, but I will call cuts sluts bitches and faggots if they annoy me.

    you slut/bitch/faggot.
    Faggot detected. What's the matter? U mad? Another AAA alt posting like a pro, never stop! We enjoy your tears fagboy.
    Little boys being hard on the internet can be quite amusing sometimes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    Opti is not that bad.
    Bad is a relative term.

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    What's the max number of bombers you can have before you start killing your own bombs.

    Because I think these guys have twice that number.
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    The problem with this post is, I can't tell if it's a 1/10 troll, or if this is just another Zagdul post.

    The fact that this shit hasn't been called out 10 times already doesn't narrow it down at all unfortunately.

    Just in case it's not a troll ... no, no it's a troll, it has to be.
    Progod - its funny you making this post given that no one knows anymore whether you are being serious or trolling. Definitely a case of the Black Pot talking here :P

    Still wuv u though <3

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    http://shitonkugu.blogspot.co.uk/201...n-kugu-19.html

    New pod cast is up with special ending guests The Big Red Yacht (Goons) and Dark Razer (NC.), wherein they discuss the war in the north

    They where too scared to throw down like lions



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    Wait ... Noooooooooo...

    Vily Quote of the Day

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    welp it had to happen sometime, that was certainly a good bomb run

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=11391

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    Twas a good run, MOONWALKERS DOWN!


    Figures most of the kills take place AFTER the hostile fleets leaves, el oh el.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    Twas a good run, MOONWALKERS DOWN!


    Figures most of the kills take place AFTER the hostile fleets leaves, el oh el.
    Looking forward to reading the BR over a cuppa.

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    spams warp NO JOY NOY JOY
    Sigged himself retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afr1can View Post
    Looking forward to reading the BR over a cuppa.
    :TLDR: Elo fleet down.



    Here is the rundown of UMI-.

    Gewnies jump into UMI with support and caps, take down Jammer that we were tryin to get up.

    Actual fights started with pings and bombs galore, not much died.

    Gewnie tower anchored, caps out.

    More fights, not much died.

    Gewnie tower onlined.

    Gewn support left, we stayed and started rubbing our asses on the tower.

    MOONWALKERfleet got bombed - dominated.

    Day ends.

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    Dang it I miss all the fun, that said you had a pretty decent run of terror with those damn things.

    Someone posted this guy's POD in alliance chat... http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14359120
    Ok, some people fly some expensive shit. props for balls must have been a really pimp Tengu or Sleipnir he lost... uh ... what?..?..?
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14359132

    And they say we're bad at this game

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    I yelped on comms
    Sigged himself retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    What's the max number of bombers you can have before you start killing your own bombs.

    Because I think these guys have twice that number.
    IIRC six or seven depending on whether or not the bomber is bonused for the type of bomb it's using.

    The only logical reason for using more than this amount is because bombs are duds if the bomber that shot them dies. The more bombers you use on a run, the more likely it is that you'll swamp the enemy fleets ability to shoot the bombers. Alternatively, the more bombers you use, the more likely it is one of the muppets in your bomber fleet actually knows how to warp off before he gets shot. Whichever way you look at it, it increases the likelihood of bombs hits at the cost of efficiency.

    Since it's difficult to co-ordinate multiple staggered bombing runs, this is probably an acceptable trade off for some FCs.

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    When the bubble went up on you guys I was like "eh"

    Then the bombers decloacked
    Every rifter counts friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdul View Post
    Ahhh fuck... I knew I forgot one e-celeb who was on field.

    Was that you leading those gay ass low sig ahax against our maelstroms?

    You can now join the list of the wannabe ~eleet pvp~.

    See I disclaimered it in my previous post, you didn't troll me, cause I said so.

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    i hope someone fraps'ed that bombing run

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    I hope so too yeah it kinda owned. twisted my ankle couldn't moonwalk
    Sigged himself retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elo View Post
    I hope so too yeah it kinda owned. twisted my ankle couldn't moonwalk
    We have lots of pale white adults weirdly attracted to children in Goonfleet.
    Not sure if they could show you how to bring your moonwalk to the next level but still, would you like me to send you one in the post?
    Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omeega View Post
    We have lots of pale white adults weirdly attracted to children in Goonfleet.
    Not sure if they could show you how to bring your moonwalk to the next level but still, would you like me to send you one in the post?
    Better call the heavy haul companies, the mail companies aren't t going to want to try to ship any one of us as a package in their trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    Better call the heavy haul companies, the mail companies aren't t going to want to try to ship any one of us as a package in their trucks.
    I never said they would get there alive. It could be just a dead body cut in little cubes with a moonwalking guide in a sealed envelope. Stop trying to poke holes at my flawless logic!
    Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elo View Post
    I hope so too yeah it kinda owned. twisted my ankle couldn't moonwalk

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    Wow Thats a funny movie

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