Delvolution

[ZombyDog]

I must be getting old. I'm sure the backing track is considered by some people to be actual music, but to me it was just two combine harvesters fucking.

Sabaton were a Goonfleet staple from way back in the XZH days, we were young and Primo Victoria was thematically appropriate at the time.

And if you thought Sabaton was two combine harvesters fucking, you'll no doubt love Bolt Thrower's Through the Eye of Terror

[Grath]

Yes. The glorious honorable ewarrior legion of the bushido samurai code have never been known to abuse broken game mechanics. Ever. Not once. Umad?

How many game mechanics changes that have made the game better has any alliance you've ever been in contributed to EVE?

One day Jones Bones will get over his app getting shit on.


One day.














I hope I'm not there on that day cause reading the scorned woman comments you leave behind on every forum anytime our name comes up is pretty fucking sweet.

[Shadoo]

Today PANGU coalition bombed DBRB on a gate in a ~700 man local with 24-26 bombers, in one wave, all at the same time. Our tengu fleet sat there watching and laughing since they were bombing the gate and only 7 bombs were going to hit while drakes were all jumping out. We kinda went into :WTC: mode as 70 drakes died, but quickly returned into v0v mode without wondering too much more.

I formed a bomber fleet to bomb Makalu's sniper tornados and did a 2 angle warp with 3 squads (didn't have time to do 3rd angle) and killed pretty much his whole Tier3 fleet but was wondering how the fuck we got some of the bigger EHP targets down. We knew all Tornados were going to die from 14 bombs, but something didn't quite add up.

So off we went to look at logs, followed by some safespot bombing of a carrier, then multiple different bomb types bombing at the same time and basically concluded: BOMBS ARE BUGGED TO SHIT.

My first thought was to go bomb 319 undock where -A- carriers sit watching bombers do waves often lauging at them. My second thought was I really don't want to get my 80mil SP only subcaps trained character I use for bombing FC banned. My third thought was to find people we all love to shoot in Pandemic Legion.

My first action was to ask for Lenid Kalkin and Wrik Hoover to jump into carriers.



HQ angle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-xyCKBWR04

Low quality gfx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqUFwqzCB4

Hilarity ensued. And I got my explanation why some of the more retarded bomb runs by the SoCo have been so successful, of course -- having been in some of those fleets -- I don't think SoCo actually *knew* about this, they just went on patting their backs and admiring their killboards.

[Richter Belmont]

tl;dr The game being bugged is the only way the SoCo can get kills because

-A- is shit

[tgr]

tl;dr The game being bugged is the only way the SoCo can get kills because

-A- is shit

It is known.

[nightlord]

Shadoo can you link the loss mail for the carrier?

[Rezorek]

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13899128

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13899266

Wrik and Lenid <3

[Soft Insanity]

Another pressing question, was the clone updated?

[Devilish Ledoux]

Aw yeah, look at that fuckin' solo kill.

The second-best part of this op was making pubbies think that I really was solo.

[nightlord]

Well those are interesting kms. Wonder how long ccp will take to release a hotfix, in the winter?

[GoodLuckHaveFlan]

This is sorta like having the old DD back.

[Shadoo]

Next time SoCo calls a CTA, I know which fleet I'm running with 5 wings and 5 squads per wing )))))

[UnknownPoster]

Hey -A-,

I'd like to volunteer my services as a fleet FC.
I can help both coordinate activities across multiple alliances, and implement your defense strategy against the CFCBadgers.
I can assist in boosting your morale with tales of how I have conquered regions, and wooed scores of women in partnership with my wife and tell you how you can too.

More importantly I can help take some of the strain off Makalu, and give you the ability to FC another 250 person fleet with near any fleet composition you give me to work with.

Additionally, I can form a new alliance and help recruit new high security players, teach them the ways of -A- and boost your fleet numbers by 200+ within a few weeks.

If Delve doesn't work out, I have a long history of purging regions, back in The 99 Percent I formed a coalition to purge the Great Wildlands of Furries. I believe together, we can do it again and maintain a permanent stronghold there in which to plan a counterattack.

I ask for nothing in return other than your support and attention.

Xystance, your my fucking hero.

[Fast Rap Tupac Srbija]

Rental empires are what funds the south. CFC doesn't accept renters, although i suppose Test does. Will we see RA and ROL be made custodians? Or will Freeport Delve be FreePort South?

what.

Also, I really hope that if Nulli doesn't go to MACTEP and get some deal with Solar that we give them -A-'s space, because fuck.

[UnknownPoster]

Except for OTEC, haha.

Holy fuck when did 99 get a techmoon?!

Quick Edit: I am literally going through the last 5 pages so bare with these replies to old posts

[Tali]

Holy fuck when did 99 get a techmoon?!

Quick Edit: I am literally going through the last 5 pages so bare with these replies to old posts

Where do you think i got the isk for that AHAC i gave you yesterday vOv

[GreenDaemon]

This is sorta like having the old DD back.

Slight variation. Instead of 250km radius, its 15, and instead of 75,000 damage, its 1.1 million (with 150 dudes)

[Fast Rap Tupac Srbija]

That RDN video must be using file footage

>soco fighting

[Jean Leaner]

Where do you think i got the isk for that AHAC i gave you yesterday vOv

My guess would've been from Horus, who if rumors are true has weasled his way into 99's command structure.

[UnknownPoster]

My guess would've been from Horus, who if rumors are true has weasled his way into 99's command structure.

I'd like to kill this said rumor. He HAS weasled his way into the alliance, however I very soon figured out who this new guy in alliance was. He has been in for two weeks, however he has not been given leadership. I made sure of that. He is currently in the process of being "dealt with".

He really pulled the wool over some peoples eyes to get in though.

[jeffraider]

hey remember that time pl used that bomb exploit to bomb their own carriers

then remember before that when shadoo pwned a whole fleet of SOCO bombers wololol

http://i.imgur.com/FTWAq.png

LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE BAD @ EXPLOITING SOCO

[Tali]

My guess would've been from Horus, who if rumors are true has weasled his way into 99's command structure.

I haven't seen a red cent

[John Caffeine]

[spoiler=snip]Today PANGU coalition bombed DBRB on a gate in a ~700 man local with 24-26 bombers, in one wave, all at the same time. Our tengu fleet sat there watching and laughing since they were bombing the gate and only 7 bombs were going to hit while drakes were all jumping out. We kinda went into :WTC: mode as 70 drakes died, but quickly returned into v0v mode without wondering too much more.

I formed a bomber fleet to bomb Makalu's sniper tornados and did a 2 angle warp with 3 squads (didn't have time to do 3rd angle) and killed pretty much his whole Tier3 fleet but was wondering how the fuck we got some of the bigger EHP targets down. We knew all Tornados were going to die from 14 bombs, but something didn't quite add up.

So off we went to look at logs, followed by some safespot bombing of a carrier, then multiple different bomb types bombing at the same time and basically concluded: BOMBS ARE BUGGED TO SHIT.

My first thought was to go bomb 319 undock where -A- carriers sit watching bombers do waves often lauging at them. My second thought was I really don't want to get my 80mil SP only subcaps trained character I use for bombing FC banned. My third thought was to find people we all love to shoot in Pandemic Legion.

My first action was to ask for Lenid Kalkin and Wrik Hoover to jump into carriers.



HQ angle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-xyCKBWR04

Low quality gfx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqUFwqzCB4
[/spoiler]
Hilarity ensued. And I got my explanation why some of the more retarded bomb runs by the SoCo have been so successful, of course -- having been in some of those fleets -- I don't think SoCo actually *knew* about this, they just went on patting their backs and admiring their killboards.

I'm suprised you didn't realize this when you weren't able to smartbomb missiles anymore.

My theory is that it's CCP being lazy and disabling missile/bombdamage models because their position server wise didn't match up to where the new graphic effects said they were.

[Grath]

My theory was they tried to do the TD adjustment, didn't like what they saw, and instead of actually fixing it just made them invulnerable, because you GET contact messages on missiles, they're just always 0 damage.

[penifSMASH]

My theory is CCP is terrible at their job

[Fix Lag]

My theory is CCP is terrible at their job

I second that hypothesis

[Fast Rap Tupac Srbija]

My theory is

-A- is shit

[Elise Randolph]

I'm pretty sure it's what John Caffeine said.

[Cranky old man]

I'd want the war to be "eaiser" to

Yeah, because it's clearly been so hard for them so far
:-)

[The Mittani]

Some corp member posted this in chat. Little bit of SoCo propaganda by Raiden.

godwin-in-space.avi

[Solar Fleet Best Fleet]

To be fair Mittani your persona-of-choice kind of lends itself to the whole "GOONS ARE NAZI'S" thing.

[bobbechk]

I'm suprised you didn't realize this when you weren't able to smartbomb missiles anymore.

My theory is that it's CCP being lazy and disabling missile/bombdamage models because their position server wise didn't match up to where the new graphic effects said they were.

"uh guys, if someone blows up a missile the graphics still plays and it looks like a hit, how do we fix this???"

[progodlegend]

Hilarity ensued. And I got my explanation why some of the more retarded bomb runs by the SoCo have been so successful, of course -- having been in some of those fleets -- I don't think SoCo actually *knew* about this, they just went on patting their backs and admiring their killboards.

Shit, I figured they were bugged towards their own damage type, but fuck I didn't know they were that broken. Explains a lot, nice job.

The real question is, how long is it gonna take CCP to fix this? About as long as it has taken them to put firewall back in the game?

CCP sucks some times.

[Night]

To be fair Mittani your persona-of-choice kind of lends itself to the whole "GOONS ARE NAZI'S" thing.

Space Stalin is Space Hitler? Who would have guessed?

[The Mittani]

To be fair Mittani your persona-of-choice kind of lends itself to the whole "GOONS ARE NAZI'S" thing.

We're commies with a Stain gimmick, soz.

[Gel]

Shit, I figured they were bugged towards their own damage type, but fuck I didn't know they were that broken. Explains a lot, nice job.

The real question is, how long is it gonna take CCP to fix this? About as long as it has taken them to put firewall back in the game?

CCP sucks some times.

Id hope that it would be faster than the firewall issue, as this is a bit more game breaking than that. But then again

[Fix Lag]

Once we start killing enemy carriers, CCP will have a bit more pressure to get something done.

[Malcanis]

Yea, turns out when Nulli is held up against the space turd that is AAA, you look pretty fucking good. Of course so do Pangu, Hun, fuck, Walltriepers or whatever it is and VC.


I mean, i dont expect you to publicly shit on your allies, but calling them allies at this point is even starting to sound funny to you. You asked AAA for help, who in turn called every fucking person they knew, then when the response escalation came down they went "woops" and threw up their hands. You were holding much better before their 'help' came down, and there's no sane person who can claim otherwise, the only people in Delve who were losing space were RA, now, all of the Delve residents are getting hit as 25 billion in SBU's are strewn across the entire southwest corner of EVE.

You have some good people around you right now. Bliss is a good fc, and Init aren't shit, RAIDEN is just looking for a cause to get behind (maka's 100mn tengus are all their behind right now amirite) and something to wake up for, I know because our alliance suffers from the same things, when your player base is as old as ours you need motivation to give a fuck. The rotten core of the entire deal is literally Maka and the AAA directorate.

I don't have to spin what you know to be true.

I suspect that if you told the -A- leadership that you had armed ninja necrophilliac pedophiles holding knives at the throats of their children right now, and the only way to save them was to let Bliss FC, they'd all make the same choice without hesitation. Merely saving another "ally"'s space doesn't stand a chance of being sufficient motivation.

[Messoroz]

Half the Raiden video is footage from some random shit in Tenal. Way to be relevant.

[Heaviside]

Using footage from a campaign where they lost a region after deciding they only wanted to offer token resistance seems appropriate for the current situation.

[Gel]

It doesn't matter where they got the footage from, its that it is okay footage (EVE's standards) of fights. The propaganda alliances design isn't designed to sway the opinions of people who are actually in-tune with the politics of EVE. It's designed to make their pilots feel better and the noobies out in empire think Raiden is doing well. It's also the reason AAA goes on and on about their killboard stats- to the average pilot it looks good.

Though for AAA's case I would take advantage of the fact that to the average noob it looks like AAA is a lot stronger than Goonswarm because of their systems held. When they lose all that space, well..

[Yoji]

Merely saving another "ally"'s space doesn't stand a chance of being sufficient motivation.

...and something to wake up for, I know because our alliance suffers from the same things, when your player base is as old as ours you need motivation to give a fuck.

I agree with you both there. EvE 0.0 needs motivation and aciton. Otherwise people will just play BF3. But this is also true from a CFC and TEST perspective. TEST and CFC would have come down to delve eventually, even if -A- and the SoCo woudnt have gotten involve. Just to stop the boardom and give their playerbase something to do/ make people log in. And this is much more action then gatecamping or roaming for 40 jumps and getting 4 targets.

And ofc they were S2N were doing better before. They only had to fight PL subcaps (and sometimes a few RA). Not gona get more into that as someone posted a real good escalation table a while back, describing the steps from the initial nulli vs Ra vs pl stage to the coalition fuck it now is.

(fuck im agreeing with Grath more and more, fuck this tread )

[Yoji]

So, S2N duders. Just read Yoji's posts a bit. He outlines successful campaigns -A- has lead strategy for to be the ones where -A- has lost their territory, then retaken it when the people who conquered it left.

Now, think about this for a second. You're being invaded by TEST/CFC. The SOV is being taken by TEST/GSF. You honestly thing the strategy is going to work /this/ time?

And Yoji, my old friend, no one is trying to put divides between you and S2N because we think we can win the war then. We've won this war already. But we kinda feel very for the vikings who fougth like lions until some poor bastard decided to left Perseus Kallistros dictate strategy and Makalu "MY KILLBOARD" Zaryahsahah to lead coordinated fleet engagements.

No offense, but NULLI deserved better. I hope you guys will do well.

Thats actually a real nice post. Thanks. Not entierly true as we went ballsdeep vs the Init/CO2/IT invasion 2 year back and also VS WN and again vs DRF. But yes, we understand very well that we cant stop a steamroller that is on full power.

And no i dont think you will need to devide us to win. I wouldnt say you have already won just yet (its going to be a long summer i guess) but you will definatly take their and prob our space again. Do we care? not so much. Does S2N care? not so much eather (from what i hear). Will there be many GFs? probably. Will there be many deaths? for sure. But as grath posted, this is a good thing as it is makeing old people (like me) log in again.

[Gel]

I agree with you both there. EvE 0.0 needs motivation and aciton. Otherwise people will just play BF3. But this is also true from a CFC and TEST perspective. TEST and CFC would have come down to delve eventually, even if -A- and the SoCo woudnt have gotten involve. Just to stop the boardom and give their playerbase something to do/ make people log in. And this is much more action then gatecamping or roaming for 40 jumps and getting 4 targets.

And ofc they were S2N were doing better before. They only had to fight PL subcaps (and sometimes a few RA). Not gona get more into that as someone posted a real good escalation table a while back, describing the steps from the initial nulli vs Ra vs pl stage to the coalition fuck it now is.

(fuck im agreeing with Grath more and more, fuck this tread )

Had AAA and pets not shown up, CFC would probably still be in their respective regions. IIRC TEST told them that they were keen on having this just be a TEST/PL thing and to run it themselves. If the CFC showed up, it would be for content (as you said) and content=fights. They wouldn't of gotten any, because it would be just Nulli and RA against the lot of them. PL and TEST were winning the war prior to that, the rest of the CFC would be farming IRC or jewing out about now.

[Holdem]

I was having a feeling that removing firewall was intentional, basically to remove a lot of server load, not having to calculate the position of every missile in space anymore. But this bomber thing is game breaking. Hope it's something they can quickly hotfix.

[Rer]

quickly hotfix.

EU dudes are on vacation for at least the next 3 weeks.

We're doomed.

[Magere]

"uh guys, if someone blows up a missile the graphics still plays and it looks like a hit, how do we fix this???"

*chews on rotten shark fin and daydreams about elves*

*is Icelandic*

[Yoji]

Had AAA and pets not shown up, CFC would probably still be in their respective regions. IIRC TEST told them that they were keen on having this just be a TEST/PL thing and to run it themselves. If the CFC showed up, it would be for content (as you said) and content=fights. They wouldn't of gotten any, because it would be just Nulli and RA against the lot of them. PL and TEST were winning the war prior to that, the rest of the CFC would be farming IRC or jewing out about now.

Well yes, but TEST showing up was already to much for Nulli. PL vs Nulli/RA was a balanced fight (even when RA sayd, fuck this) But TEST joining was to much. As was posted at the start of this tread. TEST wanted nullie to be a punching bag. and if they tried to level the field, they would simple call in the CFC. Which happened.

[Kitty Vintner]

And no i dont think you will need to devide us to win. I wouldnt say you have already won just yet (its going to be a long summer i guess) but you will definatly take their and prob our space again.

We're not giving it back. Mittens will stuff somebody in there, probably XIX. The minute -A- so much as price checks SBUs the space will be crawling with fight starved goons again.

I'm gonna have to learn Russian if I want to hear people bitch about my falcon alt.

[progodlegend]

I was having a feeling that removing firewall was intentional, basically to remove a lot of server load, not having to calculate the position of every missile in space anymore. But this bomber thing is game breaking. Hope it's something they can quickly hotfix.

Since it worked before, one would think they could just turn the shit back to what it was? I don't know.

I do know i'm calling for bombers this weekend.