Please chip in if some of the smaller corps are on the wrong side. This was a proper whelp. Shadoo is now taking a victory lap 'round the 319 station in his Lev.
Exactly what skills do AAA pilots possess that are somehow better and or different? You have no hardeners on your set ups to overheat, completely passive set ups, you orbit or keep at range on an anchor, and you press F1.....
The line member of AAA is arguably WORSE than the line member of TEST.
- Less informed, lied to on a regular basis by their leadership they are usually the last to ever 'get' whats going on.
- Less diplomatically able, reading your alliance and corp chats shows you to only barely get along with each other, and the second shit starts looking really down they're at each others throats.
- Poorly equipped. The average TEST member has a a fair few options for what his alliance supplies for him. They have better intel, incentives to FC (even if they're bad), Dreads, full fleet reimbursements on just about everything.
I mean, by what metric are you measuring that you are better than anybody at all? The fact that you 'still exist'? If thats the case CVA are miles above and beyond AAA.
EDIT: You also won't generally find test ECM droning their FC.
- The instance at the station when Nulli bravely (no sarcasm) undocked.
- And later in the day when Makalu welped the Loki fleet into some ~400 drake fleet because he thought his Loki fleet is such a superior doctrine that he can Rambo his way against, because it's an inferior Drake doctrine.
And there in lies the problem, SoCo has no direction, instead of pooling their resources into a combined effort like the terribly incompetent CFC-HB have been doing. They are divided and conquered, effortlessly.
space4sale neg repped me with only 2 letters:
no point in debating your emotional state is there.
The culture of TEST or PL or Goons comes down to different variations of "fuck you, that's why" and "we're going to fuck you up".
-A-'s culture is "we're hard to kill because we just fall back to Stain".
Their membership is fed this stuff and told it is good. The people who join up and stay aspire to be the mouse that hides in a hole in the wall when the cat is around. This is their goal in life. They want to be a cockroach. They want to run under the fridge when somebody hits the light switch. I won't say there's no pride to be had in being difficult to kill, but when you've basically fitted warp stabs to the brains of your alliance members, is it any wonder they don't do well?
I find it much more satisfying that nulli is going to get fucked because of this.
anyone who allows themselves to be co-op'd to a cause that blinds them from whats important and strips them of their worth dont deserve my respect
alot like christians
Maybe they will get the dick so hard that the stupid just falls out of them like globs of semen down a $20 hooker's leg.
So basically till now delve V is a slam dunk contest with SoCo being the poor basket...makes sense
Grath so your mad and surprised nulli called in backup when facing defeat at the hands of Pl and test ? You know that's what everyone does to defend their precious space. You were the aggressor you got bobbed because you were winning.
So you asked for help and now it's a shitty sov grind. Should have bailed when aaa first bobbed at least then you wouldn't be considered a CFC pet.
Honestly I'd rather be a goon pet then an -a- pet, at least i get to fight.
I think where AAA need to be wary is that they're not fighting the DRF, or the NC in this sov war. Its unlikely that the CFC+HBs will claim the space and install some renters and walk away in an uncaring manner.
The CFC, specifically Mittens & Co. but realistically all members is a proper Coalition, unlike previous ones. The CFC is not built on a pet/renter heirarchy, and I think you'll find that if people do get space in these areas and are actually part of the CFC, then any attempt to 'retake Catch' will result in large numbers of CFC members coming down on AAA like a ton of bricks.
I'm actually quite excited about all this, it may legitimately be the end of renters in the west.
In the meantime, AAA are allowing numerous TEST and CFC second and third-line FCs to cut their teeth on with drakefleet. To get used to their caps, supers and titans. While the AAA-bloc relies on 1 or 2 FCs to be able to call and lead coalition level operations, CFC + Honeybadgers are able to flash-form 200+ fleets on any one of a dozen FCs, some of which most people have never heard of, many of whom are becoming competent, if not brilliant. Well after Makalu claims burnout and goes to play other games, the mainline CFC + Honeybadger FCs will be happily rotating in when shit needs doing, and then enjoying themselves the rest of the time and leaving the repetitive stuff to others for training.
HoneyBadgers and the CFC will come out of this war with things that are far more valuable than a couple of regions.
"OH NO NOT A TEST FC"
Proceeds to get owned.
Fuck it i say we give it to them at least the people living in catch would be fun to fight.
Every time I think -A-'s ~leadership~ couldn't get worse...
Makalu: "WHAT DOES MITTANI KNOW ABOUT LOKIS, HOW DARE HE SAY THEY ARE BAD"
Some other Mouthbreather: "MITTANI DOESN'T LOG IN TO EVE ONLINE AND DOESN'T FC HE KNOWS NOTHING SILLY GOONIES"
*4 minutes pass*
*loki fleet wiped out to a fucking man because lokis are bad*
~suck my dick, boy~
I think promising catch to nulli right now, no strings attached, would be an excellent idea.
If nulli grows they can be a fun enemy to fight. Before -a- got envolved delve locals vs honeybadger was fucking fun.
edit: meanwhile, in the Bacon Bar: http://soundcloud.com/veorah/hamlet-the-testening
"Are they really fucking bridging!?!?"
Oh, and Maka got killed by a Moros on the field.
MY FUCKING FACE WHEN GOONS DROPPED TITANS ON A SUBCAP FLEET.
I think the most disappointing part of the loki welp was the numbers they managed to get even though they announced it long in advance. If you're going to announce a 'big fleet' in earshot of PL/TEST/Goons spy networks, at least make sure its a big fleet, because every slavering killmail starved guy on this side of the fight is going to be there. You were pretty much guaranteed to get at least two full fleets ready to fight you, even that deep into whatever timezone it was.
I just killed 10x more Blues than Reds that fight.
Meanwhile, on TEST jabber:
(11:45:25 PM) pleaseignore.com: Whoever the forum moderator is that moved my SMITE key thread into a public area where anyone can see the keys, I hope you get in a car crash and get impaled by part of your car infected by hepatitis, pissed on by a passing deer, have your stereo stolen before your very eyes by some random dude who then pulls you off the piece of car lodged in your chest only to fuck you with his AIDS-infected cock, giving you his AIDS and then killing you with his AIDS. Cunt.
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It got moved back to where I wanted it in about three minutes.
Who says I'm not good at conflict resolution?
Have you consider poetry? Maybe haikus.
So where 250 dps lokis cannot beat your enemy, throw the whole kitchen sink and hope it works!
Fun times -A- , really brings me back to December camping LGK in titans.
Fought Lokis today
Makalu was a retard
-A- is shit, of course
I don't know who is more of a hero for that 319 fight an hour ago. Lenid for blapping half of -A- with his solo Moros or that goon Erebus that came out of nowhere and successfully DDed that unaggressed carrier from half a grid away
I hear the elite units of AAA are burning away from tracking dreads in a straight line......
Totally legitimizes you making fun of CFC/TEST guys for not knowing what they're doing (turns out even they know not to do that since they were the ones making fun of it).
The DD is impressive but the solo Dread is more manworthy
They dead again
Keep it coming WE WILL NOT FIGHT THEM ALLIANCE
Comms at this point have devolved into a highly depressed sounding Makalu, a bunch of rabble rabble cowardly blobbers rabble rabble, and a lot of groaning. I think it may be time to stop playing eve for the night.