GSF will extend a line of credit to alliances having monetary issues.Originally Posted by WRENT
GSF will extend a line of credit to alliances having monetary issues.
so from my impression whats happening right now is: the cfc is raping the territorium of the SoCo with their so called preventive/defensive warfare. after they will be finished they will have blue or / proCFC alliances installed in the regions, which will most likely consists of the old SoCo members. from that point on most of 0.0 will be friendly towards each other. TBH thats a dream come true, i think we can all say that we won eve and destroyed all evil in this game.
But what i dont understand is what PL has to do in that conflict, they were never, at least as long as i was in PL (more than a year), ... so they were never into that kind of thing. I cant image that all their members are happy with that. but what do i know, alot of things change/d i guess.
If that's the case, I suggest giving isk to Nulli Secunda so they can spend it on more supercaps that they may welp entertainingly. Been way too long since Progod last failjumped a titan.
as you have already asked about and should have remembered before posting facepalm*
There's no doubt -A- will survive, they will soon just retreat to LGK and then have corp deployments to north. This much is given. In the winter when their RUS core returns and they have people willing to undock and put their guns to shoot -- they will probably take back Catch with ROL and some sort of coalition made out of RUS.
The real shame in this all are all the non-RUS allies the SoCo has gathered around them. Nulli is one of the most fight-heavy alliances around in EVE, but are being muzzled at the moment by the retards they choose to listen to (who by the way have never won a campaign -- it's always been someone else leading strategy, not PK/Makalu). I had high hopes for S2N moving into hard core roaming death dealers mode, but what's gonna happen is their active pilots will get poached by -A- and they will probably slowly fizzle out. Shame, really.
RA, well, this time I hope they really do let the old lady finally go to bed. RDN, my friends -- I have no idea what you were even thinking. Hope NCDot picks up the active corps/pilots. The rest will just deploy to Scalding Pass and get handed some systems to rat happily in.
It's unfortunate progod/guderian didn't get the go-ahead to step into active SoCo leadership, based on how they were fighting before -A- arrived: I think the war would be going differently.
Shadoo, I'm sure you know as well as anybody that there's no way in heaven or hell that -A- would ever acquiesce to being skymarshalled by somebody else.
At this point I don't think we have any of the SoCo dudes lined up to live there.
Why should they need a go-ahead to fight. If they begin to fight the rest of the Coalition will follow so long as they fight. STEP UP NULLI!!!!!! become a new and better AAA that treats their friends with some respect!
I do not think you get goons. Most of the people in this thread do not understand goons. Grath had it right when he said we would just rotate out people as we get bored, its true, newbie fcs have been stomping on -A- all week.
But you do not account for one thing. Me. My job in a war like this is to spend all day purging and pruning the region of any and all hostile structures. The reason we do not get burnout is that unlike -A- and such, where 2-3 fcs have to deal with everything, fighting and structure defences. I do not burn out and I deal with as much as I can in one day. So when SOCO says their are 188 stations to capture, I say thats 3 weeks of a good time. And when the fights go down ALL OF OUR FCS (we have about 20 with pl/razor/test/fa/goon/other) are nice and fresh to own things and during this time I just tend to fall back into a secondary fleet or secondary fc spot because meh fights.
I burnt Delve Two to the ground around bob, killing near 1k or more pos during the three week camp of PR-. I have burnt regions of pos on a whim of wanting to because people suggest its fun and makes me money :3:. I burnt branch because mittens said it would be fun (37 stations there). I helped vily burn tenal (20something stations there) to ashes as Raiden hid in delve. Delve 4 I burnt stations with welpcanes in us prime for the hell of it for vee. Delve 5 will be no different. The number is nothing, just stay docked -A- and make my job easier. Good fights are boring because even if I welp 250 drakes to bombs, I will get 250 more mins later and continue the grind anew.
well done shadoo, you blued all 0.0 and right now its impossible to unblue it again
Also I have never taken imensea, so I need to speed delve/q/catch up so I can do this.
No chance I'd sooner join Goons than NC.RDN, my friends -- I have no idea what you were even thinking. Hope NCDot picks up the active corps/pilots.
War is over, it has been lost, we came down hoping to get back to being active again but that hasn't worked out. Least we haven't actually lost anything this time, mostly as we've nothing left to lose. Guess we'll be sat around here for a while till someone accepts it was over a while ago and we can go and do nothing somewhere else.
sure no one gets goons.
Whats fun is how much people get to speculate on the GSF empire.A confession?The number is nothing, just stay docked -A- and make my job easier. Good fights are boring because even if I welp 250 drakes to bombs, I will get 250 more mins later and continue the grind anew.
You did read my post right? It was about how even if half your members burnout you still will win?
CFC's been here two days and the southern coalition is already falling to pieces around them.
ATTN Nulli Grunts
One Grunt to another you are good dudes. Fuck your Leadership.
Proof that there was no SoCo and that Propaganda is a powerful tool!
SoCo is a Coalition of alliances with the soul purpose of protecting what space they already have gathered, not to take space unless provoked. Detorid was never SoCo space for instance and they took it as reward for the war to break RED Arrow.
SoCo has no intention of going on to Fountain if you haven't already gathered.....
Feed the Plebs what they want to hear and you can move mountains, or in this case, entire regions.
god help those southern gentlemen when dbrb finds out you can grind structures better in anything other than a drake
We pretty much all know that. What's your point?
Nulli leadership is actually amongst the better I've worked under over the years. 'Course, that's really not saying much, but by and large it's a pretty good crew of people.
I hate it when I predict it'll take 2 weeks, and it turns into taking just 2 days.
And there is the problem, -a- should have died years ago along with RA. The residents in delve were fun to fight at least we lost some fleets and killed some fleets it was a fun war. Now -a- thinks they can hide in station and we will get bored.
DBRB - can't get burned because he never sees the sun.
"It pains me to say it but you are a good poster." - Vonq
So what you're saying is that your entire coalition (or non-existent coalition) isn't there to take space, but to defend the space you have, and you're failing at that?
Got some news about you coalition friend............
(4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod
(11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test
That CFC/TEST are full of shit and your members can barely read the fine lines?
As you can tell my Kugu experience is slightly poor. But its kinda fun watching alliance leadership confess.
He is not talking about dipshit little alliances. Fuck me, when Origin or whatever can affect politics, sov, or coalition warfare, then you can shit at the table. other than that you are just a fucking roaming gang.
My name is WRENT..... doesnt that say enough that im not in either coalition.
Ive already put forth my opinion/fact that CFC et alii have won the war. Im just commenting now on the propaganda machine used to make the war happen.
Confess to what? To liking grinding structures? All that shows is that boat is apparently mentally insane, but the strategy is otherwise sound.
no that the only reason they exist is their massive propaganda machine.
Looking at all of the stuff that has leaked like the "red pen" CTA's, kicking for local spam and so on, it's a wonder anyone even wants to stay in these alliances. Either way, I don't think there is any question that delve, querious and period basis are all going green on my standings tiles soon. I assume they will stay that way for some time.
I for one am sorely disapointed in the number of fights I have gotten since the escalation. Since I can only really play on weekends, I was looking forward to a 3 week long thing, giving me six whole days of 10% tidi fights. Maybe even fly a rohk for once.
I.... what? What propaganda? The CFC said your coalition is terrible, and we are proving that. They said there were ~gudfites~ until -A- came, which there were, then -A- came.
Where exactly did we broadcast blatant "There are no coalition forces in Iraq" sort of propaganda?
Which one of the State Of messages said: Fountain is on the list or something like that.
AAA deployed when SOV started switching hands - 99% , Nulli's system next to NOL - NOL itself.
AAA recognized and probably heard from their own spais that Delve was going to get hit again. They deployed in Self-Defense.
Its not like people didn't know this war has been planned for since the fall of Raiden in Tenal.
Your edgy analysis falls on its face; Durr isn't leadership.
GJ figuring out our covert propaganda, it's not like we post it from our propaganda forum or anything.
As one of the directors in my corp you can bet we aint going to -a- neither will my fellow corpies. But besides that this is exactly how i feel. I was looking forward to this war win or lose as i thought things were setting up to be epic but guess i was too gullible. I do like being in nulli so i can hope for is we wise up and take to roaming new eden and just fight for the sake of fighting. If Nulli falls apart completely, well shame and we will move on.
The only way your posts make sense is if you're saying that the CFC has been propagandising that the SoCo is an existential threat to the CFC, and would be taking Fountain if the noble CFC grunts don't log in to do something about it.
... But have they ever actually said that? Its not exactly what I got from the propaganda.
Nope, after announcing Raiden were coming down they called it the 'new southern coalition'. We didn't make it up.
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You are wrong about this partly, Red alliance took Detorid from the guys that -a- placed there after the space was left by White noise. I think it was some terrible reform from the old NC that got beating to death again. After that it became the home of Red.legion and a bunch of renters.
Also one thing that has been on my mind for a while. How come -a- is the "leader" of soco. They have been supported by coven/stain empire/rol every time. And those alliances were the ones that actually made sure that -a- is still here in its current form. So far -a- Has lost every war they have been fighting in the time I have been playing eve. they lost everything to the DRF and init. Then they got prepped up and took it back after Horus blew up DT and ED found that they were bad. And init was left to fight the stainwagon pretty much on its own. Then they got removed again by the drf and pl. They came back when most of the drf went away. Where they hit a brick wall again on Red-Arrow. Where there advances got halted in Omist in teneriffis by RA, Red.l, Controlled chaos and smallers alliances. Which they only managed to overcome by the fact that RA had internal leadership issues and the DRF civil war. Where tipped the war into favour of -a-.
I mean really. You would say that at least for a coalition you would have strong independent alliance to lead it that could handle things on its own. While -a- has good track record of bringing numbers but they never did anything noteworthy except for having other people do the heavy lifting and they taking credit for it.
The way things have been so far, that Rokh is only going to shoot some POS. Fielding Rokh fleets against Nulli is long gone now.
SoCo posters don't seem to realize the extent of GSF's loathing of AAA. AAA found a special place in our hearts by flailing uselessly at our tech over the past several months. Ironically, their challenge to the OTEC initiative helped repair relations between PL and GSF.
AAA compounded the problem by playing like chumps when their efforts against OTEC bore fruit in a serious challenge in Delve. The incompetence of AAA leadership in fleet command, diplomacy, and logistics has been on rapid-fire display of late. They are in way over their heads. Unfortunately their hubris has rebounded on their allies in Delve, who are now left holding the bag while AAA prepares to flee for the safety of NPC 0.0.
If I was a non-AAA SoCo member I'd be looking for any way out of this war right now. There's a lot of stuff left to burn and we're just getting started.
If things are going so hot. Why is every Goon poster pushing to have people leave SoCo. It seems counter-intuitive to getting fights.
The bit where he spends quite a long time saying about how they're not an immediate threat, but might one day in the future be a rather large, dangerous bloc in an unfortunate place? Not exactly the "do this or they'll invade Fountain" that you're presenting it as.
The CFC is to fights as the Borg (Star Trek not former alliance) is to fights. They assimilate.
Nulli would be much safer right now if you hadn't deployed.
His words were, " Because we, our allies, and everyone in the West, ARE under a threat " Mittens knows how to write a speech. " The threat is not obvious, like an enemy across a border " . White Noise at the time was not a threat. CFC saw an opportunity and pounced on it. Raiden was not a threat to CFC Sov. They just saw an opportunity and pounced on it.
Delve was not a threat. They just saw an opportunity to take on a weakened coalition and pounced on it. Unfortunately they might end up being a threat.
We really should get this out of a Delve thread btw.
Yea that wouldn't make sense unless they don't want fights and just want the regions.
What about the quality alliance Convicted, who limpered out of Delve coz Testies where deployed elsewhere lolz.
Tough nuts with CFC behind them.
Convicted are a tiny alliance, in a weird timezone, who were up against ev0ke and hun reloaded (both very competent and fairly large alliances). What did you expect?
They are hoping Nulli will do a MC.
Maybe BL can join SoCo, then maybe they can deploy there Supers with SoCo.............
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