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    Obviously if we don't drop supers its because we're afraid.

    As opposed to just not needing them, a concept I admit your alliance is probably unfamiliar with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Which is precisely why we aren't interested in such a brawl.

    Most of those major powers that would show up would be on the side of NCdot.

    Why can't we just have 1 vs 1 supercap duels like gentleman?
    I'm pretty sure if the Goons arrived on field (and they'd probably be first) they would go after NCdot.
    There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:

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    Quote Originally Posted by omgdutch2005 View Post
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Black_Aces - and Black Aces left -A-

    and solar lost http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/CFYY-J

    was about 300 vs 600 no real fight from SOLAR...
    lol what are you smoking? 140 NC. and 140 EV0KE.

    Local was at 689. Solar had everyone and their dog and still didnt really fight ran away when they lost 10 BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorren Canada View Post
    I'm pretty sure if the Goons arrived on field (and they'd probably be first) they would go after NCdot.
    That's a huge "if" though. Not really one you want to bet a supercap fleet on either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    That's a huge "if" though. Not really one you want to bet a supercap fleet on either.
    No it's not. Can you figure out the basics of nullsec politics or have you fermenting in Cache for so long you couldn't figure it out if I hit you over the head with it?
    There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:

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    It's an interesting question, and a lot of variables in play.

    I'd like to see what a goon "ping" could get. They gotta be pushing into the big boy ranks for total active supers, but how many are actually ready to go on short notice is a different matter.

    For the sake of science alone solar and ncDAWT should drop on each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorren Canada View Post
    No it's not. Can you figure out the basics of nullsec politics or have you fermenting in Cache for so long you couldn't figure it out if I hit you over the head with it?
    Believe what you want.

    Excuse me if I don't defer my judgement of nullsec affairs to the esteemed Lorren Canada of TEST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Believe what you want.

    Excuse me if I don't defer my judgement of nullsec affairs to the esteemed Lorren Canada of TEST.
    We get it. You're scared. It's ok to be scared, brogurt.


    Go to church about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    That's a huge "if" though. Not really one you want to bet a supercap fleet on either.
    No really, he's right.

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    Regardless on whos comming to whos aid you got 30min prob , on a good day, before even people like PL shows up.
    Noone wanna leave their home with supers knowingly going to a supercap brawl without atleast a bunch of supers on their own, so people gotto wait untill enough people respond before they can head out, if its a unfavourable tz or fc have just been doing tons of structure grind ops laterly its prob gonna take a while.

    So while Solar prob is right regarding that PL (and prob some others) will come to any Nc. vs solar supercap fight, who ever decides the battle first, is prob gonna have the upperhand for atleast 30min. (very few people would start a supercap brawl without atleast beliving they can win it/have upper hand as the fight starts).
    Solar seems to have massivly support superiourity, 300+ maelstroms hurts, and rapes enemy support. NC. gonna have trouble establisning tackle of hostile supers to even semi controll the battlefield before its allies can jump in supers/secure its own tackle.(titan route is prob gonna be behind the superroute). So in my eyes, the only danger to solar if it picks its battle is getting 1 vollyed by titans, but it should be able to dish out more dmg than the 10+ titans can inflict.
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    This has all happened and will happen again.


    1. Side A has supers and caps, Side B also has supers and caps, it's been a few months or even a year since the last super cap brawl.
    2. Both sides are indeed worried that the other will call in buddies and friends, it's a good fear everyone wants supers to burn in a fire and get on tasty kill mails.
    3. Both sides will be cautious.
    4. Enter our friend Alcohol! (Weed for some of you, , or whatever vice you enjoy while playing EVE) And couple this with an FC of leader in charge of a fleet.
    5. Suddenly the worry about long term consequences isn't so bad. Pilots that have been 'locked' into supers for 12 to 24 months get 'itchy' to have a good brawl, they 'voluteer' to drop in with their super and 'go for it'
    6. BOOM!
    7. Small engagement becomes one of the biggest cap/scap battles in EVE history.
    8. Everyone that can get there does, dozens if not multiple dozens of supers die in a fire and a GREAT time is had by almost everyone there.
    9. Afterwards everyone becomes a bit more paranoid and cautious about starting another fight like that, an alliance or two might lose it's space.
    10. Some FC's 'retire' realizing the chance of being in a battle like this again most likely won't happen in EVE. The most bitchy/complaining super cap pilots (the ones that lost their supers) leave the game. Things go back to normal.
    (after about 4 months go back to step 1.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banlish View Post
    This has all happened and will happen again.
    Sounds about right.

    Also, all that rep is going to your head with this good posting phase. Making the rest of us look bad. I suggest throwing some "wolololol blobbing nigger faggots" around to keep things balanced.

    Thanks.

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    dont hold your breath for the supercap brawl..

    last night we formed up in what was drawing close to Russian prime and came through the gates of a cyno jammed system in which solar had a capital fleet logged in, and after a few brief skirmishes on the gate solar decided to hide in their pos and watch us shoot structures while bringing in their scrub pets to do bomber runs on evokes drones.

    as Vince said NC. + evoke around 280ish with solar and pets making up the rest of the 620 or so in system.

    everyone was pretty psyched for a brawl, lots of bros went home pretty grumpy about the lack of a fight.

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    If it happens, it happens. It's been stated that sCap brawls don't get planned and only happen during escalations or :whelps:.

    I still like Solar though, they some good brawlers - thinking about changing my work hours so I can get more fights since call volume is up.

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    Here is a sample eve-kill link from that fight (since we have established already that the reports can vary wildly depending on which kill mail you click 'related' on).

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13757964

    Solar obviously decided that it wasn't time to suicide their fleet yesterday, while solar may have had numerical advantage, the 200 tech lord battleships would have massacred them. You can whine about blueballs but NC. & Evoke clearly had a superior fleet.

    As for brick we weren't there - too busy evacing our shit since NC. seem to have decided they want our space and have RF'ed BWF. Meh, what you gonna do... attacking is always more fun anyhow^^

    http://brick.killmail.org/?a=kill_de...ll_id=13751778 gulp :whatyougonnado:

    In other news -

    Maybe black aces aren't joining NC as it has been reported...

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13757763

    Was pretty funny, after playing gay docking games on our new forward operating base he warps away then back at zero. mechanics as they are means he lands 2k short and get bumped off. Brick are in the process of killing him when up goes the cyno and the nc. gang comes in and blaps him. With skiled precision tho we we decapitate the cyno before nc. load and they arrive at the sun or wherever meaning we got our fleet safe.
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    Agreed on the perception of solar.
    I know alot of the AU guys rate them, alot of us fought them in gem extensivley in the past.
    We really thought last night was going to get bloody.

    P.s those battle reports won't accurately show what was in system at the time an never left pos shields.

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    gg NCdot. We are claiming victory because we changed fleet comp twice, forceing NCdot to change ships once. Which is a victory when you suck as badly as us. Although as one Ncdot pilot informed us, you did win the isk war.
    The smack was strong, everyone was mad but not mad really. Except rohak who was actually mad.

    http://killboard.brick-squad.co.uk/?...ll_id=13774086

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    dont worry harvey, we got biffed before we went to bed lastnight as well.

    p.s love the new banner lol!

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiBAgP4wlz8&feature=plcp

    So as Brick stations in the motherland start to fall to overwhelming forces. We try and firesale all our trapped assets and prepare for the long war. This video is a lolvid showing the trap that sealed BWF's fate. The comms are just funny bits edited over the top for your plessure. Scooter1 > "BAD IAC, BAD Solar"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiBAgP4wlz8&feature=plcp

    So as Brick stations in the motherland start to fall to overwhelming forces. We try and firesale all our trapped assets and prepare for the long war. This video is a lolvid showing the trap that sealed BWF's fate. The comms are just funny bits edited over the top for your plessure. Scooter1 > "BAD IAC, BAD Solar"

    For Brick the tech tower rf's were worth it, wtf do you need sov for anyways?

    For Solar however it resulted in -3 tech moons and Sov in systems they actually wanted.

    GG

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    Epic fight Solar/Gypsy

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13796149

    Lasted over 2 hours of constant fighting

    Will attempt a non bias B/R.

    So TDE4 was coming out of RF and its cyno jammed.

    We jump in first start anchoring and Solar/Gypsy warp in perfect range to start raping us. Within 1 min we were down 10 or so logies, and things were not looking well. Evoke jumps in right behind us and give us time to regroup at a ping and get to work. Fight kicks off and both sides start to lose a good amount of ships, for the next 2 hours or so all involved parties were maneuvering to better positions on the same grid. It was tough to determine who was winning. At this point were frantically pinging for more logies and reinforcements which might have actually changed the course of the fight, Solar/Gypsy were doing the same I'm guessing.

    About 1/2 way in the battle Solar warps in 25 triage carriers to the gate to help their ships, at which point we start to realize that even though we were down 40 or so Loki's we were still coming out on top, so the call is made for dics/hics to keep the carriers tackled which they did initially but about 1/2 managed to get out due to the constant anti dictor support they had. Slowly but surely we started to take control of the fight and decided to go for the cyno jammer which seemed to take for ever to go down.

    In the end the jammer was incapped and poured in the supers/titans while Solar was trying to self destruct what ever Carriers were left on field we were forced to use DD's.

    In the end we reinforced everything and held the field.

    GG once again Solar/Gypsy lets do it again.

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    Bloody hell. That was one hell of a fight. GF Solar and friends! In the beginning we jumped into TDE4-H and our Loki/Guardians got smashed. It took a while, but finally we managed to our asses into gear and had an awesome brawl! GF indeed! http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8324

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    Holy dicknuggets that looks like it was a good fight.

    Gratz.

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    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8335

    From EPIC TDE fight, mails are probably filtering in on eve-kill but that's what it stands at right now. GF SOLAR BAND

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    Its nice for once to fight someone half competent at this game.

    RUS RUS ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiBAgP4wlz8&feature=plcp

    So as Brick stations in the motherland start to fall to overwhelming forces. We try and firesale all our trapped assets and prepare for the long war. This video is a lolvid showing the trap that sealed BWF's fate. The comms are just funny bits edited over the top for your plessure. Scooter1 > "BAD IAC, BAD Solar"
    Hey that was a good video nice job
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    Dirty blobbers

    GF GF

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    Thanks Solar and Friends for an uber fight, had to drop supers once we managed to down that jammer them carriers were heros solar and bros had like NOTHING left and them carriers will still brawling away on the gate, couldnt break the reps so once the jammer was dropped we killed the carriers rfd the ihub and station and went home. We have fraps will post soon gf gf.

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    That does look epic. How was lag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones Bones View Post
    That does look epic. How was lag?
    was ok ISH, sometimes ok other times tidi hit 25%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Dirty blobbers

    GF GF
    according to br doctor NCdot vastly outnumbered Solar or is this due to the supers jumping in after the cynogen went down ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhisperingTurtle View Post
    according to br doctor NCdot vastly outnumbered Solar or is this due to the supers jumping in after the cynogen went down ?

    Exactly we had 81 supers on field when the cyno jam went down, which makes it an even fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    Exactly we had 81 supers on field when the cyno jam went down, which makes it an even fight.
    So NCDot was vastly outnumbered BY Solar until the jammer went down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    So NCDot was vastly outnumbered BY Solar until the jammer went down?
    No the numbers seemed very close, and if you subtract the supers from the fight it was even number fight 421 vs 424.

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    With T3's fielded on both sides, that fight totals no less than 200billion worth of damages - around 170mil of which was subcaps - that's pretty impressive!

    What's the record for the amount of ISK worth of subcaps lost in one fight? Or what is the most amount of ISK destroyed in a battle where no supers died? Can anyone recall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artjay View Post
    With T3's fielded on both sides, that fight totals no less than 200billion worth of damages - around 170mil of which was subcaps - that's pretty impressive!

    What's the record for the amount of ISK worth of subcaps lost in one fight? Or what is the most amount of ISK destroyed in a battle where no supers died? Can anyone recall?
    Yeah when CFC killed like 120 + T3's owned by OH and -A-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Draken View Post
    Yeah when CFC killed like 120 + T3's owned by OH and -A-
    This one? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12715993

    Think TDE might be a new record...

    Looking forward to fraps of that fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artjay View Post
    This one? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12715993

    Think TDE might be a new record...

    Looking forward to fraps of that fight
    Yep thats the fight however not sure how TDE is a new record??
    TDE Fight http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13795740
    Strategic Cruiser 65 & 47 =112

    OH/-A- Fight http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12715993
    Strategic Cruiser 90 & 34 = 124

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    Vince, less nitpicking, more Fraps!

    And tell Chris to put in some rage comms plz

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    Sorry, my question might not have been clear enough - I was wondering what the most amount of ISK (not kills) destroyed in a battle without super caps dying was in total, not specifically battles with strategic cruisers, although I think the proliferation of T3 fleets has increased the average ISK lost in a battle a lot recently.

    When you add ISK lost from both sides you get TDE = about 210bil, OH = about 150bil.
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    Has anyone got a link to the 2010 CVA capital welp? That might be a contender for the most lost without supers dying (unless my memory fails me and supers did die)

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    Just an opinion from an empire dwelling trader
    test= pussies that cant do much besides shit up local chat
    pl= pussies cranky bitter vets who are lazy as fuck thats right lazy as fuck no balled attention whores im dumbfounded to why you guys even exist anymore snooki scares me more then u morons
    goons= snort crused bath salts ok i guess after the eat peoples faces in jita thing
    nc.= pussies attack only to protect moon goo use hundereds of supers = we are coward faggots with no spines we act like badasses untill we get donkey punched and then its super city...
    solar= ok thay have the balls to pick fights and they make vodka
    -A- semi retarted too bad you guys lost your balls used to be good sorta comparable to vanilla ice
    br1ck---- props they are the rabid pitbulls that attack grizzly bears to see what will happen they seem to be the only ones playing eve to have fun
    coven-- meh they are only a -a- lap dog
    evoke ewoks---- pets they fucking are terrible diaf veterans but suck cock for isk droppings or a place at someones table of blue faggotry
    iac i though u were dead
    this game will suck until the "powerblock" of blues shit ends none of you retarted allaince leaders have half a goddamn brain drop the blues fuck each other up. Dont stand in line to suck each others dick at a gay sex club this game has unlimited potential but not untill the blue dick bobbing ends i hope that stupid allaince leaders actually try to be an actual leader instead of a retarted starfish lapping do what everyone else nap list sheep shagger. you want epic battles good fites quit sucking each others dicks period shoot missiles at eachother instead of jizz

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    wow just noticed Burn Eden is in nc. Im quite sure a certiain someone who is sadly no longer with us would give you guys a straight thumbs down for turning into tech whores sad truly sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRUTH TELLER View Post
    Just an opinion from an empire dwelling trader
    test= pussies that cant do much besides shit up local chat
    pl= pussies cranky bitter vets who are lazy as fuck thats right lazy as fuck no balled attention whores im dumbfounded to why you guys even exist anymore snooki scares me more then u morons
    goons= snort crused bath salts ok i guess after the eat peoples faces in jita thing
    nc.= pussies attack only to protect moon goo use hundereds of supers = we are coward faggots with no spines we act like badasses untill we get donkey punched and then its super city...
    solar= ok thay have the balls to pick fights and they make vodka
    -A- semi retarted too bad you guys lost your balls used to be good sorta comparable to vanilla ice
    br1ck---- props they are the rabid pitbulls that attack grizzly bears to see what will happen they seem to be the only ones playing eve to have fun
    coven-- meh they are only a -a- lap dog
    evoke ewoks---- pets they fucking are terrible diaf veterans but suck cock for isk droppings or a place at someones table of blue faggotry
    iac i though u were dead
    this game will suck until the "powerblock" of blues shit ends none of you retarted allaince leaders have half a goddamn brain drop the blues fuck each other up. Dont stand in line to suck each others dick at a gay sex club this game has unlimited potential but not untill the blue dick bobbing ends i hope that stupid allaince leaders actually try to be an actual leader instead of a retarted starfish lapping do what everyone else nap list sheep shagger. you want epic battles good fites quit sucking each others dicks period shoot missiles at eachother instead of jizz
    Welcome to Kugu, we dont care about your opinion i guess everyone mentioned above has abused you in some way during your eve life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiBAgP4wlz8&feature=plcp

    So as Brick stations in the motherland start to fall to overwhelming forces. We try and firesale all our trapped assets and prepare for the long war. This video is a lolvid showing the trap that sealed BWF's fate. The comms are just funny bits edited over the top for your plessure. Scooter1 > "BAD IAC, BAD Solar"
    That's how you make a vid.

    It's rather endearing you lot sound like you're having fun.
    [05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Draken View Post
    Welcome to Kugu, we dont care about your opinion i guess everyone mentioned above has abused you in some way during your eve life!
    Supreme blue cock bobbing nc. sheep herding failboat captain with a i speak for everyone internet spaceship captain with a god complex chimed in i feel so gratified!

    edit ::;:::::: im sorry the complex rules your life i wish god would have equipped you with a unit larger then a half eaten hotdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRUTH TELLER View Post
    Supreme blue cock bobbing nc. sheep herding failboat captain with a i speak for everyone internet spaceship captain with a god complex chimed in i feel so gratified!

    edit ::;:::::: im sorry the complex rules your life i wish god would have equipped you with a unit larger then a half eaten hotdog
    Never stop posting.

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    Why would I stop? but I am looking at this you guys reienforce brick sov in like 5 minutes minutes well yea you act like that takes any kind of skill im pretty sure chimps could do that if they had a ton of supers too then i would expect the chest beating...(they could do it in 3 minutes because they arent waving thier dicks around like retards) I would love to see what terror bricksquad could do if they owned any supers (im not sure if they do tbh)

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    all u big alliances sux lmao excuse me while I make 30m on this shipment of billions of units of wheat that I .01 ISKed because I AM 1337 at market that took me hours to load into my freighter!!!

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