Delvolution

[Don Peyote]

I dunno man, when you house PK people are much less likely to give up and go home.

PK is like Gadaffi, there can be no peace until he gets found in a storm drain, "accidentally" gets shot and probably sodomised by a horde of angry Libyans/TEST members

[Endie]

Trying to catch up reading this, but you made my day Zagdul.

You know, less sov, less work at least from my personal perspective and i'm really like to live nomadic, half-nomadic.
Yesterday we had more fun then the last month. Killing straglers, frigate fleet, hit and run, etc. That's we love so much.

If I may summarise, what Soni is saying is that freed from the chains of sov their wulfpax will be more dangerous than ever .

[KariJ]

We don't need CFC leadership to tell us that our current enemy are the "worst douche in the World". We're well aware of how shit -A- is and can figure this out on our own.

All one needs to do is listen to recordings of their comms. My favorite recording so far is the one where they undocked Nagas into a hellcamp in 319. What did that FC think was going to happen? He was talking like he completely expected them to kick ass, but it ended in a whole lot of dead Nagas.

ps AAA: Thanks for the sov

[KariJ]

IMHO SoCo (and I'm in SoCo) are missing an opportunity to rally a real force to fight CFC.
There's plenty of guys in Eve beyond the current southern collation who would be p.happy to shoot Goons we just need a non-bitter, sockpooping central command and some balls.

What better opportunity to introduce high sec dudes to war than rally some of them with the chance to shoot goons?

Yes, bring the pubbie want-to-be pvp corps to null sec. Please do this. We all saw what happened at Burn Jita.

[Endie]

Historically powerful doesn't have any relation to presently powerful anyway.

Maybe that's why he was careful enough to say "historically" then! So why rehash a dreary, nit-picking discussion seven or eight pages after everyone else moved on?

[Endie]

Repeating this on here:

I want Y-O as my personal playpen. How can I make this happen?

I think it would be fun to give Tenerifis and Impass to 401K and tell them: if AAA try anything we'll fuck them up, otherwise you're on your own, bubba, and wait for them - maybe even Molle - to grow a bloc again worth fighting. Because he was sure as fuck a more dangerous enemy than AAA, and he did better and braver work with a shitload less when we fought IT in Fountain.

[Yoji]

Its kinda sad really that this is the state of affairs people find themselves in. I can only hope they realise their best bet is to tell them to fuck right off.

But then SoCo is the only enemy you are willing/able to fight. And still need everyone to do so... What says that about you?

Thats the difference between CFC and (old)PL. Both were smug but only PL had the right to be as they could do it themselfs with fewer people. Thats why i used to like them, and still like groeps like hydra and darkside. They talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

[Endie]

Raiden was already kicked from Tenal and they've NIPed with NCdot (who don't play EVE except when pings go out). There is no "not too far from them" now.

So we're NIPed with a neighbour. Is a member of Black Legion suggesting that the only fighting is sov war?!?

Tell that to our other nearby source of fights: IRC.

[Slycat]

Yes, bring the pubbie want-to-be pvp corps to null sec. Please do this. We all saw what happened at Burn Jita.

It doesnt have to be successful, it just has to be fun

[JimFromIT]

I think it would be fun to give Tenerifis and Impass to 401K and tell them: if AAA try anything we'll fuck them up, otherwise you're on your own, bubba, and wait for them - maybe even Molle - to grow a bloc again worth fighting. Because he was sure as fuck a more dangerous enemy than AAA, and he did better and braver work with a shitload less when we fought IT in Fountain.

I'm afraid that all the time the galactic republic is imperilled by the threat of the darkside, Sir molle will labour on behalf of the jedi - this is my prophecy: When balance is brought to the force shall EVE greatest threat rise again.........

[Don Peyote]

But then SoCo is the only enemy you are willing/able to fight. And still need everyone to do so... What says that about you?

"Okay guys we're going on a campaign to curbstomp the horrifically bad shitposters that are -A- and their friends, It'll be great and so satisfying to make refugees out of -A- yet again! But most of you can't come because we don't want people to say we're cowardly for bringing our whole coalition to fight, sorry!"

You are confusing "need" and "are able to". Don't blame the CFC for having too many allies and being diplomatically successful, clearly they could teach -A- a few things about how to make friends and influence people instead of being stuck with a bunch of refugees, "new" alliances (but props all the same to people like FORGE and VCRUZ, who haven't been on the scene long and still try to fight), and Nulli Secunda.

As for who has the right to be smug ; it's whoever holds the Tech and the power in EVE, which, last I checked, was OTEC on both counts, not Hydra or Darkside.

I'm afraid that all the time the galactic republic is imperilled by the threat of the darkside, Sir molle will labour on behalf of the jedi - this is my prophecy: When balance is brought to the force shall EVE greatest threat rise again.........

The Molle Chronicles (heh namecheck Endie) are not yet written ; The Swede shall have his part to play once more before all is done

[kiresays]

I think with this group it may come down to something you mentioned, egos. The communication they have between each other is quite good, and will continue most probably. However, look at some of the people affiliated with GSF. FA and Test aren't asshole buddies by any stretch it would seem, and despite everything being solved from that freighter incident, I am sure there are Fcon peeps who resent what went down. As long as there is an external source to let aggression be vented against, things will be okay.

If, and I say if because I wont take it for granted like some have that SOCO has lost, HB-CFC wins, something will eventually give, be it 6 months from the end of the war, maybe a year. No one can tell the future, gimmicks aside.

I can't speak to the FCON/FA fued, but as a TESTie we don't bear any ill will at all towards them. "FA shot first!" is a joke, not an accusation. They are our bros-we-like-to-shoot to the north. I'm not saying that down the line a rift somewhere could develop, but it just seems so unlikely in our current situation. To be quite honest, most CFC fueds are between TEST and Goons, but that relates more to our ~internet culture~ than our game. And that's probably the strongest alliance in this game.

Honestly, as far as most CFC alliances go, we just don't take shit seriously. This is a game, and we play it as a game. That's a mindset our leadership embraces and the SoCo's seems to completely ignore.

[Vile rat]

But then SoCo is the only enemy you are willing/able to fight. And still need everyone to do so... What says that about you?

Thats the difference between CFC and (old)PL. Both were smug but only PL had the right to be as they could do it themselfs with fewer people. Thats why i used to like them, and still like groeps like hydra and darkside. They talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

Sir with all due respect I don't need your permission to be smug.

[Bowkers]

I think it would be fun to give Tenerifis and Impass to 401K and tell them: if AAA try anything we'll fuck them up, otherwise you're on your own, bubba, and wait for them - maybe even Molle - to grow a bloc again worth fighting. Because he was sure as fuck a more dangerous enemy than AAA, and he did better and braver work with a shitload less when we fought IT in Fountain.

Does this mean I can have Y-O?!

[Kurt Armstrong]

Will they undock today?

[Razzor]

Will they undock today?

-A- "Yeah ok Shadoo next time we fight it will be 7 titan bridges away from your friends"

[Kurt Armstrong]

-A- "Yeah ok Shadoo next time we fight it will be 7 titan bridges away from your friends"

yeah the true friends of the SoCo

[Space cadet]

"Okay guys we're going on a campaign to curbstomp the horrifically bad shitposters that are -A- and their friends, It'll be great and so satisfying to make refugees out of -A- yet again! But most of you can't come because we don't want people to say we're cowardly for bringing our whole coalition to fight, sorry!"

You are confusing "need" and "are able to". Don't blame the CFC for having too many allies and being diplomatically successful, clearly they could teach -A- a few things about how to make friends and influence people instead of being stuck with a bunch of refugees, "new" alliances (but props all the same to people like FORGE and VCRUZ, who haven't been on the scene long and still try to fight), and Nulli Secunda.

As for who has the right to be smug ; it's whoever holds the Tech and the power in EVE, which, last I checked, was OTEC on both counts, not Hydra or Darkside.




The Molle Chronicles (heh namecheck Endie) are not yet written ; The Swede shall have his part to play once more before all is done

Unless im mistaken its Nulli and VCRUZ space that is directly under attack no wonder they are trying to fight what choice do they have?
As for bringing your whole coalition its more a case of do you have anyone else left to shoot?
Who knows once the tech nerf hits some of you might stop sucking each others dicks.

[tgr]

Unless im mistaken its Nulli and VCRUZ space that is directly under attack no wonder they are trying to fight what choice do they have?
As for bringing your whole coalition its more a case of do you have anyone else left to shoot?
Who knows once the tech nerf hits some of you might stop sucking each others dicks.

Who knows, you might make a good post one day, too.

[GoodLuckHaveFlan]

I can't speak to the FCON/FA fued, but as a TESTie we don't bear any ill will at all towards them. "FA shot first!" is a joke, not an accusation. They are our bros-we-like-to-shoot to the north. I'm not saying that down the line a rift somewhere could develop, but it just seems so unlikely in our current situation. To be quite honest, most CFC fueds are between TEST and Goons, but that relates more to our ~internet culture~ than our game. And that's probably the strongest alliance in this game.

Honestly, as far as most CFC alliances go, we just don't take shit seriously. This is a game, and we play it as a game. That's a mindset our leadership embraces and the SoCo's seems to completely ignore.

SoCo only exists in nomenclature really. We won't have a fun war at our hands until TEST and Goons fight on opposite sides.

[KariJ]

Unless im mistaken its Nulli and VCRUZ space that is directly under attack no wonder they are trying to fight what choice do they have?
As for bringing your whole coalition its more a case of do you have anyone else left to shoot?
Who knows once the tech nerf hits some of you might stop sucking each others dicks.

There are always people to shoot. You just need to know where to look.

[Zyper]

I personally don't care what happens to delve, or the sov, I just want ships to shoot at, not structures.

Its always fun listening to -A- comms when CFC/PL dropps titians/supers on the station, Its mostly laughter now at this point then anything else, like last night. I gloriously lost a hurricane to you, poor thing didn't stand a chance. https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=742055

[Kurt Armstrong]

I personally don't care what happens to delve, or the sov,

spoken like a true SoCo bro...long live the southern bro pack

[Sentinel Eeex]

-A- "Yeah ok Shadoo next time we fight it will be 7 titan bridges away from your friends"

Why do they want to fight in empire?

[Sentinel Eeex]

Unless im mistaken its Nulli and VCRUZ space that is directly under attack no wonder they are trying to fight what choice do they have?
As for bringing your whole coalition its more a case of do you have anyone else left to shoot?
Who knows once the tech nerf hits some of you might stop sucking each others dicks.

I will never stop sucking dicks.

[SoCoalist]

Being a SoCo grunt let me tell you my personal feelings about the current war.

TBH is happening what I always expected. As soon CFC forces stick their nosesdown here, Delve, Period Basis, Querious and maybe even other regions will belost. In the meanwhile we will probably will be spanked in the rpocess severaltimes, like yesterday with the loki welp fleet and will probably loose somesuper caps.

Will this be the end of AAA ? No. Time works on our favor and as soon the CFCgrunt enthusiasm starts to fade and the continuous losses start to erode thewallet numbers will start to drop, it is natural. People will get bored ofshooting structures, being blue balled left and right, fighting people thatonly use bombers and so on.

In the process we will lose corps and people, might even see one or 2 alliancesfrom SoCo collapse, But AAA will do what always did. We will wait and fight onour terms. No sooner and no later than that. If we have to wait months or weeksI don’t know but we will be here after the initial wave is gone. Why this willhappen you might ask. Well because AAA is full of "old timers" thekind of people that already been there and done that. In my personal case I wasso many times in the winning/losing side I don't care anymore if we lose"our home". There was a time that losing our home would be acatastrophe, like some years ago losing a titan was a major blow to alliancemorale. Not anymore, not after years of playing the 0.0 game.

If we lose all our regions we will take them back after. We have the manpowerand the resources to take whatever was taken from us in a blink of an eye.After all we might be "shite" but we must have some value since allthe HB and CFC alliances came down here. What a master effort to beat such auseless coalition like SoCo!

In the meanwhile we will continue to lose ground, at least for now, andfighting on our terms while having fun doing it. AAA is a PVP alliance, that'swhat we do for a living, and I have to thank you all HB/CFC pilots for offeringus a reason to login. See you tonight for some more skirmishes.

[Devilish Ledoux]

Your first post is terrible through and through, but I only have time to make fun of this one bit:

In the meanwhile we will continue to lose ground, at least for now, andfighting on our terms while having fun doing it. AAA is a PVP alliance, that'swhat we do for a living, and I have to thank you all HB/CFC pilots for offeringus a reason to login. See you tonight for some more skirmishes.

If "shooting up the occasional fleet led by newbee FCs while losing all significant engagements and your space" is your idea of a good time, it's going to be a fantastic summer for you.

[Sentinel Eeex]

Being a SoCo grunt let me tell you my personal feelings about the current war.

TBH is happening what I always expected. As soon CFC forces stick their nosesdown here, Delve, Period Basis, Querious and maybe even other regions will belost. In the meanwhile we will probably will be spanked in the rpocess severaltimes, like yesterday with the loki welp fleet and will probably loose somesuper caps.

Will this be the end of AAA ? No. Time works on our favor and as soon the CFCgrunt enthusiasm starts to fade and the continuous losses start to erode thewallet numbers will start to drop, it is natural. People will get bored ofshooting structures, being blue balled left and right, fighting people thatonly use bombers and so on.

In the process we will lose corps and people, might even see one or 2 alliancesfrom SoCo collapse, But AAA will do what always did. We will wait and fight onour terms. No sooner and no later than that. If we have to wait months or weeksI don’t know but we will be here after the initial wave is gone. Why this willhappen you might ask. Well because AAA is full of "old timers" thekind of people that already been there and done that. In my personal case I wasso many times in the winning/losing side I don't care anymore if we lose"our home". There was a time that losing our home would be acatastrophe, like some years ago losing a titan was a major blow to alliancemorale. Not anymore, not after years of playing the 0.0 game.

If we lose all our regions we will take them back after. We have the manpowerand the resources to take whatever was taken from us in a blink of an eye.After all we might be "shite" but we must have some value since allthe HB and CFC alliances came down here. What a master effort to beat such auseless coalition like SoCo!

In the meanwhile we will continue to lose ground, at least for now, andfighting on our terms while having fun doing it. AAA is a PVP alliance, that'swhat we do for a living, and I have to thank you all HB/CFC pilots for offeringus a reason to login. See you tonight for some more skirmishes.

After listening to that Maka recording from last night, I couldn't stop wondering what kind of people want to keep flying with him.

Now I know.

[DurrHurrDurr]

Being a SoCo grunt let me tell you my personal feelings about the current war.

TBH is happening what I always expected. As soon CFC forces stick their nosesdown here, Delve, Period Basis, Querious and maybe even other regions will belost. In the meanwhile we will probably will be spanked in the rpocess severaltimes, like yesterday with the loki welp fleet and will probably loose somesuper caps.

Will this be the end of AAA ? No. Time works on our favor and as soon the CFCgrunt enthusiasm starts to fade and the continuous losses start to erode thewallet numbers will start to drop, it is natural. People will get bored ofshooting structures, being blue balled left and right, fighting people thatonly use bombers and so on.

In the process we will lose corps and people, might even see one or 2 alliancesfrom SoCo collapse, But AAA will do what always did. We will wait and fight onour terms. No sooner and no later than that. If we have to wait months or weeksI don’t know but we will be here after the initial wave is gone. Why this willhappen you might ask. Well because AAA is full of "old timers" thekind of people that already been there and done that. In my personal case I wasso many times in the winning/losing side I don't care anymore if we lose"our home". There was a time that losing our home would be acatastrophe, like some years ago losing a titan was a major blow to alliancemorale. Not anymore, not after years of playing the 0.0 game.

If we lose all our regions we will take them back after. We have the manpowerand the resources to take whatever was taken from us in a blink of an eye.After all we might be "shite" but we must have some value since allthe HB and CFC alliances came down here. What a master effort to beat such auseless coalition like SoCo!

In the meanwhile we will continue to lose ground, at least for now, andfighting on our terms while having fun doing it. AAA is a PVP alliance, that'swhat we do for a living, and I have to thank you all HB/CFC pilots for offeringus a reason to login. See you tonight for some more skirmishes.

CFC enthusiasm isn't going to fade, and I'm going to give you the reasons why

Dead Lokis
Burning space
Posts like yours fuelling the fire
Hoovernados
Recordings of Makalu being retarded and dumb
The opportunity to be smug (seriously the CFC loves being smug)
Hellcamping stations
Owning nerds with supercapitals (see http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13866508 for example)
Great propaganda images coming out of our end

Have fun waiting for us to "run out of steam". The CFC loves this shit.

[Ogopogo]

IMHO SoCo (and I'm in SoCo) are missing an opportunity to rally a real force to fight CFC.
There's plenty of guys in Eve beyond the current southern collation who would be p.happy to shoot Goons we just need a non-bitter, sockpooping central command and some balls.

What better opportunity to introduce high sec dudes to war than rally some of them with the chance to shoot goons?

Paging Xystance...

[Grim]

I'm bored. Lets give up this Delve bullshit and go back north.

[Don Peyote]

I'm bored. Lets give up this Delve bullshit and go back north.

Honestly you could just leave Delvegoons to get on with it and half of the SoCo alliances would probably collapse in a few months time anyway

[Bowkers]

Bored of winning.

[R0ot]

Sup I'm offering JF services for the SoCo in 319. You can speak to any of the PL/TEST guys for references.

Couriers or Evemail shopping lists to CyberStar and I will get you what you need in 319.*


*Excluding all hope of ever undocking and surviving

[Velonad]

Guys guys, let's try to predict the future some more.

[jeffraider]

I SHOULD HAVE NEVER FUCKING FORMED - MAKALU

[Velonad]

And btw, you should probably stop loosing carriers to DDs on the undock m8s.

[Dental Floss]

Historically

All the same I'd place RAX higher up the list than RA


Have Groon been informed of the imminent influx of refugees into their back garden yet? The Manticores and Caracals must be broken out in preparation

Historically, RA was smashed in the face by Ethereal Dawn and a little bit of IRC in 2009.
Historically, RA was then ejected from all their space by Atlas.
Historically, RA has been the red headed step child of the DRF since the formation of XIX and Solar.
Historically, in the last year, RA has been kicked around like retards since late last year by -A-, Nulli, and PL.

[Sen]

Historically, RA was smashed in the face by Ethereal Dawn and a little bit of IRC in 2009.
Historically, RA was then ejected from all their space by Atlas.
Historically, RA has been the red headed step child of the DRF since the formation of XIX and Solar.
Historically, in the last year, RA has been kicked around like retards since late last year by -A-, Nulli, and PL.

Soooooo.... you DON'T like RA? or you only Historically don't like RA?

[Dental Floss]

So we're NIPed with a neighbour. Is a member of Black Legion suggesting that the only fighting is sov war?!?

Tell that to our other nearby source of fights: IRC.

You and I both know the only way to breathe life into a massive coalition is to give them a massive target. This is your only remaining massive target. Destroying IRC CSAAs may be fun, I'll give you that, but it's no way to wake everyone from their slumber when the conclusion is normally a given when the fleets are being formed.

[someguyfromoverthere]

You and I both know the only way to breathe life into a massive coalition is to give them a massive target. This is your only remaining massive target. Destroying IRC CSAAs may be fun, I'll give you that, but it's no way to wake everyone from their slumber when the conclusion is normally a given when the fleets are being formed.

coathangering [s]black legion[/s] IRC CSAAs is always a reason to login..

[Vile rat]

You and I both know the only way to breathe life into a massive coalition is to give them a massive target. This is your only remaining massive target. Destroying IRC CSAAs may be fun, I'll give you that, but it's no way to wake everyone from their slumber when the conclusion is normally a given when the fleets are being formed.

Then we'll either get bored or somebody will stop us.

Or we just conquer everything. Either way I'm having fun playing eve-online!

[Player of no importance]

You and I both know the only way to breathe life into a massive coalition is to give them a massive target. This is your only remaining massive target. Destroying IRC CSAAs may be fun, I'll give you that, but it's no way to wake everyone from their slumber when the conclusion is normally a given when the fleets are being formed.

Confirming that long-time Black Legion member Dental Floss knows a lot about what keeps members of a massive coalition interested in Eve Online.

[Opti]

this reminds me of the fights up north against team tech

cry about getting blobbed while in denial about the fact that you can easily get equal numbers

get out triple A you are shit

Originally Posted by SoCoalist

Will this be the end of AAA ? No. Time works on our favor and as soon the CFCgrunt enthusiasm starts to fade and the continuous losses start to erode thewallet numbers will start to drop, it is natural. People will get bored ofshooting structures, being blue balled left and right, fighting people thatonly use bombers and so on.

Thats literally the entire problem right there, you are in a fucking bloc war, theres other people to care about LOLOLOLOLOL

[ihaveahelmet]

I sense a double standard, or a ruse designed at misleading the populace. Personally I favor the latter.

I actually have Zagdul on my ignore list (now that I found out how to do so). If I had a nickel how dumb he is, I'd have a dumb nickel.

[Sath]

Considering that even S2N, Huns, and Vera were leisurely and easily curbstomping RA and Viking Empire...in the RUTZ...before PL showed up and put that entire affair on ice, it's pretty hilarious to talk at all about RA being good at, well, anything. After all, you know you've hit rock bottom when even S2N can casually roll you in a sov war. Anyway, as for everything else going on...really nothing much to say. The Southbloc continues to get a bunch of nigh-pointless kills in 1DH; the CFC continues to thrash through a bunch of nigh-pointless sov in Delve. Well, they've started on nigh-pointless sov in Period Basis as well, so that's kinda new, I guess. -A- continues to conflate survival with victory, and the Delve thread continues to act as a beacon for badposting.

In other words, life carries on. All quiet on the southwestern front.

[dabigredboat]

Historically, RA was smashed in the face by Ethereal Dawn and a little bit of IRC in 2009.
Historically, RA was then ejected from all their space by Atlas.
Historically, RA has been the red headed step child of the DRF since the formation of XIX and Solar.
Historically, in the last year, RA has been kicked around like retards since late last year by -A-, Nulli, and PL.

Historically, BL has been treated like a good pet by every alliance it works with.
Historically, BL has not been very good at eve.
Historically, BL just lost the alliance tournament match to a no name alliance.
Historically, in the last year, BL has been kicked around like retards since late last year by everyone.

[dabigredboat]

DAY TWO IN FUCKING DELVE - I WILL GRIND THIS BITCH INTO THE DIRT. And then plant flowers over its head so that a new alliance can replace the shit that lies beneath (makes good fertilizer though).

[DurrHurrDurr]

[Pbattican]

SoCo really needs to step their game up. They should be receiving a HUGE chunk of isk from their renter alliances and should begin to put up a fight ( hopefully ) . They just cant go bankrupt flying fancy fleets.

I ran some math and if the goons are making 1 trillion isk per month ( a number i believe is far from accurate mind you this is only GOONS ) you need to kill 20000 goon drakes to make a difference.

Honestly, SoCo cant win an isk war.
SoCo cant really win this war at all so long as there are half the number of current active CFC members willing to blap drakes all day.

So.... my simple idea is just fight and make them blap drakes. The smaller alliances don't have that much income so you will be able to break their banks much more easily.