Faction Warfare: Amarr Vs Minmatar - A holy epic of big plays and owning nerds

**Viribus** · 2012-06-10

My suggestion was to join amarr and wardec every other alliance in the amarr militia

**Elise Randolph** · 2012-06-10

I did that once

Slacker Industries, never forget :911:

**Opti** · 2012-06-10

Originally Posted by Elise Randolph

I did that once

Slacker Industries, never forget :911:

make sure to kill all the divine commodores

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-10

Initial thoughts are this is blobwarfare lite^TM

I was promised small gang shenanigans but I can't even sit in a plex for more than 5 minutes before being o7'd by 3x my numbers, usually in faction frigates.

Granted this might be because Amarr is so bad/heavily outnumberd/losing this war, but I'll persevere.

Also having no skills sucks, I want to o7 some nerds hard, but can barely fit a trasher, much less fly it properly.

**NAP** · 2012-06-10

Originally Posted by Bocephus

Initial thoughts are this is blobwarfare lite^TM

I was promised small gang shenanigans but I can't even sit in a plex for more than 5 minutes before being o7'd by 3x my numbers, usually in faction frigates.

Granted this might be because Amarr is so bad/heavily outnumberd/losing this war, but I'll persevere.

Also having no skills sucks, I want to o7 some nerds hard, but can barely fit a trasher, much less fly it properly.

Don't expect to take on the world alone as a noob or even as a vet but always remember range is king when dealing with larger numbers in plexes. I'd suggest tag teaming with someone else and always get range and make guys entering a plex come to you. This means you get a bit of time to shoot him before his friends can show up to blob you, because warping on grid is not possible inside a plex or out side on it's gate.

Secondary suggestion, is to stay away from the blobby areas, go deep into Minmatar space and start running minors & sooner or later someone will show up to try and run you off.

Last but not least use Arti Thrashers & Faction frigs are just something you will have to deal with.. (if you are pro you learn to use a 150mm Rail Corm)

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-06-10

Originally Posted by NAP

Don't expect to take on the world alone as a noob or even as a vet but always remember range is king when dealing with larger numbers in plexes. I'd suggest tag teaming with someone else and always get range and make guys entering a plex come to you. This means you get a bit of time to shoot him before his friends can show up to blob you, because warping on grid is not possible inside a plex or out side on it's gate.

Secondary suggestion, is to stay away from the blobby areas, go deep into Minmatar space and start running minors & sooner or later someone will show up to try and run you off.

Last but not least use Arti Thrashers & Faction frigs are just something you will have to deal with.. (if you are pro you learn to use a 150mm Rail Corm)

Or a pulse coercer. Burn away as he chases you and start hitting him at range. By the time he realizes he's fucked he doesn't have time to align and escape.

**NAP** · 2012-06-10

Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous

Or a pulse coercer. Burn away as he chases you and start hitting him at range. By the time he realizes he's fucked he doesn't have time to align and escape.

Coercers are ok, but that's more close range kite fighting.. With Rail corms it's possible to hit out around 100km. They of course have their weaknesses, but can be very deadly in the right fights.

**zero** · 2012-06-10

What the hell? It's like I am listening to FW players.

**WomynPower** · 2012-06-10

>2012

>not flying omen navy issues while being in amarr militia

yeah ok

**Opti** · 2012-06-10

Originally Posted by WomynPower

>2012

>not flying omen navy issues while being in amarr militia

yeah ok

its quite obvious you join amarr fw and fly thrashers with fweddit because apart from the constant roleplaying slights, thrashers rape

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by Elise Randolph

I did that once

Slacker Industries, never forget :911:

More like "Falcon Industries" due to your faggot level of ECM use.

**Viribus** · 2012-06-11

As we all know, Heretic Army would never stoop to that level of risk aversion

**spamB0t** · 2012-06-11

faggot level

Attachment 2989

Something fishy going on here.

**ente** · 2012-06-11

Oh my god this looks like fun. While I've had my part of fun in RvB, it always pissed me off that they go all pussy mode on upshipping and shit. Man, I should really get into this. Does fweddit have any restrictions on whos allowed to join?

**jeffraider** · 2012-06-11

From: Amarr Empire
Sent: 2012.06.11 12:56
The Western District Way is joining the Amarr Empire faction at war. Within 24 hours all enemies of the Amarr Empire faction will be enemies of The Western District Way and fighting may begin.

YEAH

BIG OLE GOD TITTIES

**jeffraider** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by Jones Bones

More like "Falcon Industries" due to your faggot level of ECM use.

remember your faggot use of lying about getting invited to pl wolololo you a straight BITCH

hahaahaha

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by jeffraider

remember your faggot use of lying about getting invited to pl wolololo you a straight BITCH

hahaahaha

Ban me from your BF3 server over it. Oh wai...

CU ON THE FEELD OF BADDLE M8

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by NAP

Coercers are ok, but that's more close range kite fighting.. With Rail corms it's possible to hit out around 100km. They of course have their weaknesses, but can be very deadly in the right fights.

Unfortunately, Manfred can only fly Amarr as yet. I'm just starting Minnie ship training.

**jeffraider** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by Jones Bones

Ban me from your BF3 server over it. Oh wai...

CU ON THE FEELD OF BADDLE M8

why did you have to lie about getting into PL

go on lolololol

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-11

Originally Posted by jeffraider

why did you have to lie about getting into PL

go on lolololol

I like how saying "Saint said I got into PL but I went afk in EVE so I never looked at my app again." has gotten your dick so hard every time I post. Why so mad bro? Come fly elite t1 destroyers with me into the sun. Our Thrashers will go forth in peace and harmony.

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-11

OK, so the trick to not getting blobbed seems to be to go deep into Minmatar space. Most of the guys back there seem to be carebears and will completely ignore you while you solo minors in a destroyer, the ones that do come in to fight you DIAF. Skills coming along slowly, so I'm sucking less every few hours.

**Dego** · 2012-06-11

Hey can a tengu get into majors or no?

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by Dego

Hey can a tengu get into majors or no?

Majors are BCs and down, so I believe so.

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-12

I see Slicers a lot out here, seems like my kind of ship, anybody have a fit and advice?

**Viribus** · 2012-06-12

Longpoint, scorch, stay away from scrams

**Grath** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by Viribus

Longpoint, scorch, stay away from scrams

Generally don't worry about changing ammo, most fights will be over before you get it changed.

Never not overheat the guns, you have a highslot that will most often stay empty, leave that space between your guns, burn them down.

Learn to bait the fight, a lot of frigates you can just try to stay at range on but one surge of an overheated MWD can bring him in range to scram you, its better if you look scared and run like a motherfucker ..only you're not running, you want THEM to buffalo charge you instead, at which point you burn them down.

The slicer has 3 or 4 viable fits, anybody who tells you THIS IS THE BEST FIT is biased (and probably retarded) find the one thats most comfortable for you (I like the fit with more tracking, some people like an active tanked one, some like the more damage fit, ect, ect).

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-12

Slicers have to run from faster frigs or dessies with Rails/Arties. They shine with Snakes or Loki bonuses but you can say that about any frig. Most short range ships that lack speed will avoid you. It is hilarious watching them get caught by Loki boosted Merlins though. OL scram, grab him @ 15km when he's a retarded and uses "orbit".

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-12

Slicers can reasonably engage and outpace most any other frigs (including Inties but not necessarily Drams). However, engage a Coercer and you'll get shit on faster than you can hit warp.

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller

Slicers can reasonably engage and outpace most any other frigs (including Inties but not necessarily Drams). However, engage a Coercer and you'll get shit on faster than you can hit warp.

Slicer base speed is the lowest of all Navy faction frigs. It's faster than the Cruor, Worm and Succubus. I believe all of the racial Interceptors are faster as well.

Slicer is a fun ship but you have to either fit or fly to make up for the HP and cap issues.

**zero** · 2012-06-12

A good slicer will shit all over any of the other navy frigs.
infa 100%

Even if someone will gain speed on you, the slicer outpaces other frigs because it starts doing damage at like 20km with scorch, then when you manage to get in range, it just dials up dps with multifreq/conflag.

e: if you know a destroyer is fitting with long range weaponry, a badass slicer pilot will just orbit close where shit like that wont track well enough, of course that is incredibly risky and could end up with a ded slicer

**DurrHurrDurr** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by Viribus

My suggestion was to join amarr and wardec every other alliance in the amarr militia

I'd say do it, but it's already been done a few times in the past and it's not quite as funny as it sounds on its face. Fweddit almost wardecced some dudes for being bitter in militia chat, though.

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by DurrHurrDurr

I'd say do it, but it's already been done a few times in the past and it's not quite as funny as it sounds on its face. Fweddit almost wardecced some dudes for being bitter in militia chat, though.

Yeah, it's been done so many times before that people are used to it tbh.

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-12

This is what I have so far. Can't quite figure out the last low and rig. Nano and tracking rig? adaptive plating and polycarb? small rep and polycarb?

Any help/reasons why I am horribly wrong would be greatly appreciated.

**Grath** · 2012-06-12

Originally Posted by Bocephus

This is what I have so far. Can't quite figure out the last low and rig. Nano and tracking rig? adaptive plating and polycarb? small rep and polycarb?

Any help/reasons why I am horribly wrong would be greatly appreciated.

You have an empty low slot

Start with something like this:

Thats a pretty standard fit, you can also bump it up a bit and try something like:

Or

**StevieTopSiders** · 2012-06-12

Grath, you'll note that he was asking what to put into that empty low slot.

**Grath** · 2012-06-12

I gave him suggestions (but no i didn't know that, i actually just looked at the fit)

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-12

Yeah, thanks for the fits, but I can't really justify flying one quite yet, the character is still too green. But I'll see about getting one out in Delve to practice in on my main while the character skills up.

**anzoxe** · 2012-06-13

i cannot wait for fw

so hype

**Mfume** · 2012-06-13

Originally Posted by zero

e: if you know a destroyer is fitting with long range weaponry, a badass slicer pilot will just orbit close where shit like that wont track well enough, of course that is incredibly risky and could end up with a ded slicer

almost certainly will unless you're an extremely good mechanical pilot

**n0th** · 2012-06-13

Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to Slicers. Like i have a dude in corp who does 3x nano in the lows and fucking ccc rigs and manages to kill shit.

My favorite fit is this:

Avoid: damage projection, tracking disruption, dualprop setups flown by competent people (MPL cant track shit in close AB orbit), nonshit Daredevils, faggots w/ skirmish links/snakes (so 99% of lowsec).

**Bocephus** · 2012-06-13

Promptly fit up a Slicer and went to Syndicate on an alt to test it out. Went afk (waiting for a corpmate to come in a horribly shit fit in Thorax) to grab something to drink while at a safe. Come back with a Thrasher on grid scramming me and three more landing on grid. -1 Slicer (and shitfit Thorax that deserved to fucking die). Didn't even get a chance to fly it properly :[

For the five whole seconds I got to shoot back I'd say it put a hurting on one of those thrashers, I might have even had a chance if I had gotten back 2 seconds sooner.

Saddest part is I could have just docked and avoided this whole situation.

It'll be a while before I fly one in FW.

**spamB0t** · 2012-06-13

[Coercer, Beamsalot]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I

Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S

Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Ionic Field Projector I

:requires meta TE/genolutions or 3% cpu to fit
DPS: Aurora (190) 46 + 5
Gleam (314) 6.4 + 4.9

Thinking these might actually be good for fighting retarded Arty thrashers in FW.
If you derp Gleam should save you since it gets n1 tracking bonus.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-13

Also, avoid Sentinels like the plague.

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-13

Originally Posted by spamB0t

:requires meta TE/genolutions or 3% cpu to fit
DPS: Aurora (190) 46 + 5
Gleam (314) 6.4 + 4.9

Thinking these might actually be good for fighting retarded Arty thrashers in FW.
If you derp Gleam should save you since it gets n1 tracking bonus.

Arty thrasher is faster than you and has a mid open for tank/EWAR, and since you can't point him if he gets low hp he can just run. If you wanna fuck with arty thrashers use just about any ship that can fit a TD. Or an LOLRAGE corm that has dual damps.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-13

I've noticed that G-Team uses Corm fleets to great effect; they're fast as fuck and shred up frigs from like 50km.

**spamB0t** · 2012-06-13

It's just a theorycraft alternative to arty thrasher fleets, and no they won't be able to run because they have no ehp either.
Most 280s fits go sebo in the spare mid

**Grath** · 2012-06-13

Originally Posted by Jones Bones

and since you can't point him if he gets low hp he can just run

You would think, but they don't run, or don't get the chance, i can't figure it out. I keep getting kills in my no tanked pulse coercer without a point.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-06-13

Originally Posted by Grath

You would think, but they don't run, or don't get the chance, i can't figure it out. I keep getting kills in my no tanked pulse coercer without a point.

Yeah. I think a lot of people just assume they're pointed and just go balls deep. I've only gotten one kill with a no point coercer but It was a blast killing a dude who could have warped out at any time. I'll be buying a bunch more after I get home from SFO.

**Opti** · 2012-06-13

alot of people dont bother to look for tackle since they have already decided to win or die since small shit is fast to die and cheap

**Jones Bones** · 2012-06-13

Originally Posted by Grath

You would think, but they don't run, or don't get the chance, i can't figure it out. I keep getting kills in my no tanked pulse coercer without a point.

Pulse I would say yes. But if you expect some dude to stick around while you plink him @ 30km+ then you're not going to get kills. There's an uber troll Thrasher fit with dual tank and no tackle at all.

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