Noticed there wasn't a mention of this on here. EN24 reports that Serenity Engineering and Transport [SETC] made off with 250 billion worth of ISK and goods at Fatal Ascension's expense.
Someone done goofed?
-FA- member corp steals 250 billion from alliance?
Noticed there wasn't a mention of this on here. EN24 reports that Serenity Engineering and Transport [SETC] made off with 250 billion worth of ISK and goods at Fatal Ascension's expense.
Someone done goofed?
Is this really a surprise to anybody?
Surely this is just the opportunity the lurking east was waiting for. Like Majesta before them, FA will be the first domino, the toppling of which will ripple out and collapse the CFC.
Haha nope there are no credible threats anymore. Jesus I'm going bittervet.
What do you expect from a Goon Controlled Outlet?
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This deserves its own thread. Just like we made a new thread for the -A- theft.
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
You really should stick to lurking, posting is really not one of your strengths.Originally Posted by riverini
What do you expect from a Goon Controlled Outlet?
Eve News24 - Fair and Balanced!
At least post this to CAOD instead. You might get Snot Shot to bite.What do you expect from a Goon Controlled Outlet?
Eve News24 - Fair and Balanced!
You're ugly and fucking gigantic, how can you claim this?
FA isn't important enough for all that.
Eve News24 - Fair and Balanced!
Mind commenting on the EvEskunk news blackout then?
I mean, considering I run the only major non CFC controlled intel network.
Fair and Balanced. My left testicle.
Oh, had the dude carry something from null to jita not long ago. Well, good for I guess.
This man speaks the truth
(4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod
(11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test
On a completely unrelated note, Goonswarm is conducting their second audit into FA finances in last 6 months.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
No damage control?
This thread is disappoint.
If this is true it'll be hilarious.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
More to the point, FA had 250b?
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
How many stealth bombers would that buy?
You did. You should have cut and pasted without attribution like some other site does to us.
We lost assets. There's your damage control.
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
So were SETC leaving anyway or were they asked to leave before they decided to empty FAs coffers?
Failed campaign in Syndicate, leash pulled and sent to Delve, and now this; it's been a rough summer for FA.
"It pains me to say it but you are a good poster." - Vonq
Supposedly they were tired of Zagdul being literally Hitler.
They were required to run all of FA's moons and do a bunch of logistics stuff at a net loss or something.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
No leash jerking as Syndicate was selected so we could remain in relatively quick deployment range of Delve. We loved Delve, our participation reached a nice peak during it.
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
Well it sounds like FA is out of quite a few slaves now, as well as 250B ISK.
CSDW runs most of the moons of FA. SETC ran an e-store business, essentially hauling from Jita to our space w/ the alliance paying for their fuel. No loss occurred there as their markup was always a bit of an issue. Anyways, they told told us that they wanted to dissolve the corp, merge into others in FA and we were in the process of helping them with it.
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
from what I heard from FA members they had a lot of fun in delve but they gotta protect dem moons yo
No idea, maybe you should send that german girl to troll me again =_0
Can't wait to see how FA deals with their Tech logistics without a bottom bitch.
You should probably read Phey's post.
But how does a glorified hauling corp run off with 250 bil in addition to skimming tech for months without anyone noticing?
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
Fucking Christ. If you're going to show how cool you are when you send a mail crowing about what you (may have) done, run spell check.Our corp is leaving you a little parting gift amounting to a negative 240 billion in the alliance wallets, courtisy of SETC Leadership.
http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=314680309
Yeah, I saw Grim's, hit reply, went downstairs, made a bomb-ass salami sandwich, ate it, posted the reply, then saw Phey cleared it up. Meh.
paging :zagdul:
When zag sent that mail, all he had done was glance at the wallet. The wallets were fine, AFAIK 'only' 20b of their snatch-and-run operation was actual liquid ISK.
I don't know how much was lost to siphoning, spreadsheet warriors will have to figure that out. I don't know if it lasted months but I do know that there was an investigation as to why the past 2 months were yielding lower than maximum profits. How they were able to take what they did? CSDW runs all the towers but brings in trusted individuals' alts to help manage the logistics. Fence was one such member, the guy was our supercap director after all. He and another 1 were in CSDW for that purpose and, being in the role of POS operators, is why most of their haul is POS related items, Blocks, Isotopes, Goo, etc. Much of the rest were infrastructure items neglected in hangers, ihubs, spare upgrades, etc, essentially surplus from when we absorbed PureBlind / thought we were going to end up with CR
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
will this be a fatal blow to your ascension among the top tier goon pets
Ron Mexxico - Broski North
Helios Black > not mad ron
I think their ascension was already fatal, it's yet to be seen whether their cascade is imminent
Until today I'd forgotten about Riverini's existence.
Thanks for that.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
Wait, so FA's supercap director is the one who pulled this heist?
"Heist" implies there was a concrete plan executed by a team of individuals in specialized roles with a defined goal.
This sounds more like Zagdul fell asleep on the couch and when he woke up everything in the living room not nailed down was gone. That's what you get for living with Mexicans.
So FA is the California of the CFC?
No, Fade is California, Zagdul is the Governator, and the FA general members are the Mexicans.
Wait, I think we've carried this metaphor too far...
I loved the first response in the Alliance logs - "did we buy another Zor's?"
FA can be as ridiculously incompetent as they want -- there are zero repercussions for it. As long as Zagdul personally keeps in the Goons' good graces, and can herd his cats into a meatshield fleet once in a while, CFC will keep giving them all the tech they need. There's no learning cycle going on here, just "already replaced".
If you're thinking "OWN Alliance 2.0" then you'd be 90% true. The missing 10% is that even if someone comes along to put their incompetence on prominent display -- the way TEST once did to OWN -- I'm skeptical that the CFC leadership would listen or react.
Unfortunately for FA, if the tech faucet ever really dries up and can't run their SRP anymore, they'll failcascade in months. What good PvPers they have (yes, they do have some!) are just there to take advantage of free ships while it lasts; the end of the gravy train will drive most of them to the Honeybadgers. Luckily for FA, the incoming alchemy changes won't even come close to impacting tech.
It doesn't cost that much to run a war when everyone stays docked or runs off the NPC space at the first sign of trouble. I think the ship replacement programs of the CFC will be just fine.
Syndo was fun ill have you know we killed a navy megathron.
Delve was fun also, p sure we killed another navy mega there too.
Please tell us more about rough its been for FA.
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Sausage you used to be an OK guy - stop posting like a fucking retard.Syndo was fun ill have you know we killed a navy megathron.
Delve was fun also, p sure we killed another navy mega there too.
Please tell us more about rough its been for FA.
I started playing again at the start of the syndo campaign, my corp is in FA now ..... KK m8.... syndo... It was fun, lots of small gang stuff in AU-TZ. Delve was similar but more blues.
tl:dr sausage has been having fun, So not rly understanding your angle here champ, sensing butthurt but not sure from where.
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I think what people are trying to point out that FA went to syndicate, lost a shitton to the locals (including a super and some caps??) before running off to Delve to sit in 1DH for a week or 2.
If you had fun thats great, but the results aren't those of a well run nullsec alliance in its prime.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
Especially not decently-sized alliance under no external pressure with completely secure space and a reliably huge income.
The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
The biggest problem with FA is that they still have much to learn. They beating they took in syndicate showed this. They have FCs that are still very green and are learning. As an alliance that is growing they are still learning how to manage everything well. This loss of 250 bil is a painful yet necessary lesson they have had to learn. Will they ever be as good and such as goons and test? Maybe. Maybe not. I have a feeling over time though they will become much better at doing stuff on their own and will be able to stand a bit better on their own two feet.
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