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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    I'm not saying that it won't go up again for sure, especially considering (IIRC) Exhumers use Gallente materials, so demand's bound to be good. But there's also a lot of people holding onto a lot of CC.
    well a days worth in jita is around 100-200 mil, so its worth me holding onto them probably till I break even, about 30mil @ the 140 mark and then a jump upto profitville, just need a decent panic to set in, if only I could bring myself to go to the eve-o forum......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehound View Post
    And the decathlon continues. Now Hilmar Keller and Manfred Hideous are being joined by Seymore Graves, who, too, joins the ranks of whines, cries and shit posts. Will he be able to turn the drama around and bring home a victory for team "Sadness"?!?
    you mad bro?

    Also, technetium down to 88.5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by madp0k View Post
    well a days worth in jita is around 100-200 mil, so its worth me holding onto them probably till I break even, about 30mil @ the 140 mark and then a jump upto profitville, just need a decent panic to set in, if only I could bring myself to go to the eve-o forum......
    While you're at it please start a panic on Nanoelectrical Microprocessors, the damned things won't move at 33k while Nanomechanical Microprocessors (the Mini variant) are easily moving at 48k. THEY COST THE SAME FUCKING THING OMFGWTFBBQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    His rep is officially negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    While you're at it please start a panic on Nanoelectrical Microprocessors, the damned things won't move at 33k while Nanomechanical Microprocessors (the Mini variant) are easily moving at 48k. THEY COST THE SAME FUCKING THING OMFGWTFBBQ
    I think I'm going to start inventing Skiffs, so please do me a favor and drive the component prices down on patch day. I'm not even sure what items I'll need but I see my procurer bpo getting copied and invented a lot.

    Pretty much just wanted to post something market related in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    His rep is officially negative.

    THY WILL BE DONE
    Just doing my part.

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    Other interesting developments: Fuel blocks are DOWN, likely because of the Skiff buff and everybody's accurate assessment that the market's about to get buttplugged with cheap ice. Caldari fuel (relevant for mining/reaction towers) is down nearly 20% from the beginning of the month, Amarr even more so; Minmatar has been going up and down and right now is right where it started on July 1st; Gallente is down about 10-15%.

    Isotopes are also taking a hit - Helium is down 30%, Hydrogen a little hit, Nitrogen down 25%, Oxygen down 20%. All in all, maintaining towers is getting cheaper and moving your materials with a JF is even better.

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    SAVE PEACETIME REIMBURSEMENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    Isotopes are also taking a hit - Helium is down 30%, Hydrogen a little hit, Nitrogen down 25%, Oxygen down 20%. All in all, maintaining towers is getting cheaper and moving your materials with a JF is even better.
    Isotopes have been artificially high for quite a while. Look at the trends - bot banning and hulkageddon pushed these prices way, way up, and with moon goo being shit the last few months I am sure its a combination of more human ice miners, less towers, and smarter bots (there are more macks in the ice fields now). Don't forget how excited we all were when goons managed to get oxytopes up to 1000 (and then some more).

    New exhumers may have a further effect on this, depends on their new price vs how hard they are to gank (i hear they are quite hard). But if a bunch of hisec ores are as good as mining the high end nullsec ores like they are atm, i don't see many human miners moving to isotopes as they drop down through 1000. Smarter bots might help there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    Isotopes have been artificially high for quite a while. Look at the trends - bot banning and hulkageddon pushed these prices way, way up, and with moon goo being shit the last few months I am sure its a combination of more human ice miners, less towers, and smarter bots (there are more macks in the ice fields now). Don't forget how excited we all were when goons managed to get oxytopes up to 1000 (and then some more).

    New exhumers may have a further effect on this, depends on their new price vs how hard they are to gank (i hear they are quite hard). But if a bunch of hisec ores are as good as mining the high end nullsec ores like they are atm, i don't see many human miners moving to isotopes as they drop down through 1000. Smarter bots might help there.
    You're forgetting the allure of ice mining isn't in ISK yield (it sucks compared to ore, always has) - it's in the ability to sit and mine the same rock without changing targets. As long as you can drag ice blocks from your cargo to an Orca, you can be constantly shooting the rock. In ore mining there's constant interruption as rocks deplete and targets have to be changed (not to mention you need to move closer to them - this becomes a huge PITA if you're multiboxing).

    Maybe the ISK/hour is better ore mining, but the ISK/effort will always be better for ice.

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    This is not strictly true for the casual miner. If you're mining in a group of 3 or less though (multi-account or corpmates) then ice mining is terrible and you're probably a bot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madp0k View Post
    well a days worth in jita is around 100-200 mil, so its worth me holding onto them probably till I break even, about 30mil @ the 140 mark and then a jump upto profitville, just need a decent panic to set in, if only I could bring myself to go to the eve-o forum......
    On SiSi, all the barges but the Hulk are jumping in component costs, including Crystalline Carbide Armored Plates for the Skiff and Mack. So, start your panic engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    I think I'm going to start inventing Skiffs, so please do me a favor and drive the component prices down on patch day. I'm not even sure what items I'll need but I see my procurer bpo getting copied and invented a lot.

    Pretty much just wanted to post something market related in this thread.
    Nice 2000th post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunWin View Post
    On SiSi, all the barges but the Hulk are jumping in component costs, including Crystalline Carbide Armored Plates for the Skiff and Mack. So, start your panic engine?
    I think the panic bus is starting to leave the station, sells are up to 149 now with 1/4 of a day supply worth, then a slow rise up, buys are only @ 125 but hopefully as more people board the bus these will rise too. With 8 days to go till patch day, I might come out of this ok fingers crossed

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    Crystalline Carbonide is about as common as dogshit in a park and plus if these Skiffs are half as tanky as everybody thinks, they're not going to die and thus won't need to be replaced. If there is a spike in Crystalline Carbonide, it'll be a short-term trend.

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    CCP implementing changes that other companies would have done in the first month of the moon goo changes.

    Maybe we can stop laughing our ass off now, when some poor noob yells out in corp chat that he found a r-64 moon with no pos on it.

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    I mean what the fuck, CCP is so braindead that Mittens had to build a Deus ex machina from Tech to continuously shit on noobs/the market/ccp/enemies.

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    Tech is fine L2P hurrr we're so funny but seriously guys keep playing our game here's a buff to mining for your patience

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    I fully expect a buff to mission running before Christmas.
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Can somebody make me a gif of the Chinese guy from The Hangover air-splooshing Cobalt

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    I fully expect a buff to mission running before Christmas.
    About time

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    Just kidding fuck hisec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    Crystalline Carbonide is about as common as dogshit in a park and plus if these Skiffs are half as tanky as everybody thinks, they're not going to die and thus won't need to be replaced. If there is a spike in Crystalline Carbonide, it'll be a short-term trend.
    If the short term spike is long enough for me dump my shit I'll be a happy bunny and I can go back to my usual market haunts. Also I have trust in the gankers on working on new ways to rid hi-sec of these evil rock killers!!!

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    I'm not a market wizard by any means, but I've been watching tech prices since the announcement. The last couple days, the price seems to have stayed consistent at ~83-88k/unit sells down from ~140k/unit. I'm blanking on the buy order prices since I am posting at work. Is this where the price is expected to stay, or will it go back up again because the cobalt reaction isn't worth the time/fuel/effort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    I fully expect a buff to mission running before Christmas.
    Isn't that basically incursions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    Isn't that basically incursions?
    Incursions bring too much isk so the solution is to buff missions
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4km4n View Post
    Is this where the price is expected to stay, or will it go back up again because the cobalt reaction isn't worth the time/fuel/effort?
    Even if people could predict this, which they can't, why would they tell you on public forums?

    And if they did tell you on public forums, why would you trust their answer?


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    If you buy enough tech, its price will rise. If you sell enough tech, its price will drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketefrau View Post
    Tech will go back up through the roof, BUY BUY BUY
    So it's just like bitcoins, then?

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    Only real reason tech droped is coz ppl are panicked and are bunch of sisyes! Tits, vaginas, and wussssssssssss!
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    On a related note, Whitehound is still trying to rep me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    On a related note, Whitehound is still trying to rep me
    Me too. Think someone should tell him that if your rep is negative you can't rep people?

    Nahhhh

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    So if tech drops calling cards will be cool again?

    Seriously tempted to get some Skiffs just for the AFK mining ability. Might have to train an alt into them. Ratting is .

    Quote Originally Posted by Hillmar Keller
    Can somebody make me a gif of the Chinese guy from The Hangover air-splooshing Cobalt
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    Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat.

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    Wolololol Jita is out of Crystalline Carbonide Armor Plates.

    YIELD BEFORE YOUR COBALT EMPEROR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    Wolololol Jita is out of Crystalline Carbonide Armor Plates.

    YIELD BEFORE YOUR COBALT EMPEROR
    Not that I want to give you any ideas or anything, but you'd have to more than double the price of cobalt to wipe out the increased profit crystalline carbide manufactors are enjoying from the rise in its price.

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    I don't have enough manufacturing slots to pull profits from both the booming Cobalt products and the crashing Tech ones

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    How long do you give it before cobalt tanks? I switched from haf to cobalt when I realized I could sell the cobalt just high enough to make my tower break even on fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    How long do you give it before cobalt tanks? I switched from haf to cobalt when I realized I could sell the cobalt just high enough to make my tower break even on fuel.
    THE COBALT DYNASTY SHALL LAST A THOUSAND GENERATIONS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    On a related note, Whitehound is still trying to rep me
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    Me too. Think someone should tell him that if your rep is negative you can't rep people?

    Nahhhh
    I guess you make my point then. You care more about reputation than about content. You know why this is?

    You do also know that this thread got closed and reopened some time ago only so we can have a shit posting contest?

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    Well my tower will be free to operate for a week-ish. I need to look for a better moon somewhere but there really doesn't seem much point mining for raw mats. the most towers I can handle solo has always been two or three so simple reactions are all I've managed to put together.


    OMG, He finally bit through the ballgag!

    I really do hope our erstwhile red poster has learned to not be a douche (too often).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    tears
    And so the shit posting decathlon continues, with the first tears by Manfred Hideous as he goes down.

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    why are you still here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luksajlo View Post
    why are you still here?
    Nobody here but us trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehound View Post
    I guess you make my point then. You care more about reputation than about content. You know why this is?

    You do also know that this thread got closed and reopened some time ago only so we can have a shit posting contest?
    No, I don't know why. Just a heads-up, when your rep is negative your reps do nothing, that's why we're laughing at your feeble attempts to matter.

    Also, no, the shitty part of this thread was detached so that you could be a retard in peace, far far away from the ~PUPPETMASTERS~ of economic theory. It didn't work.

    Also, question: Why do you spend so much time on a forum where nobody likes you?

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    No way he's in his forties. He trolls worse than my youngest son (who at 15 is just learning subtle trolling).

    Someone posrep Hilmar for me. I spit my coffee out laughing at his ~PUPPETMASTERS~ jibe.

    E: Oh snap. he be gassed.

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    Ah, what a shame. I was just about to post this:

    Attachment 3191

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    Farewell Whitehound, we barely knew thee.

    And thank god for that.

    - - -

    What's going on with unrefined hyperflurite? Reactions monitor is telling me its bringing in 49,930,239.00/reactor/hour?


    [spoiler="Unrefined Hyperflurite"]
    1 reactor, 1 hour period:

    Unrefined Hyperflurite
    Alchemy


    Input
    100 x Chromium 100 x Vanadium

    Output
    1 x Unrefined Hyperflurite

    Reaction cost
    Input514,761.00 ISK
    Output50,445,000.00 ISK
    Profit49,930,239.00 ISK
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    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Dunno how you get those numbers. 1 unrefined hyperflurite is 890k in Jita.
    I'll do anything for rep.

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