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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Well holy shit -A- Well done. After 5 freaking years you finally put a station in 4-07MU mad props, you really should have dropped one there long ago. Now move everyone there so we can have ourselves a real border war.

    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/outpost/4-07MU

    Also Edit. Nice name too tbh.
    They should have gone with Cirith Ungol

    Bunch of fail-nerds.

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    Seriously.

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    The fact they didn't call it 4-07M8 is a real disappointment to everyone in TEST.

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    Speaking of 4-0, Inter's 130 man RZR/TEST alphafleet just dunked on a -A- geddon/baddon fleet on both sides of the 49- gate. PL/TEST blap dreads joined us on the 4-0 gate and shit died. Yep that's all.

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14141849
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14142218

    -A- really need to figure out what their geddon fleet comp is cause I'm don't know what that is.

    E: I feel like there were more of them for the fight on the 4-0 side of the 49- gate but they're not showing up since they didn't really kill anything. Apparently Makalu formed Tengus to come after us but Inter was disinclined to fight those considering our own low numbers so we shot a SBU in 49- to half shield and went home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dysphonia View Post
    The fact they didn't call it 4-07M8 is a real disappointment to everyone in TEST.
    Culture Victory for -A-
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    Culture Victory for -A-
    All -A- has left is cultural victories.

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    TEST doesn't understand the brilliance of -A- 's fleet comps. Well, I for one am shocked.

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    Are geddons still used in anything except low entry amarr L4 pve missions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastachick View Post
    Are geddons still used in anything except low entry amarr L4 pve missions?
    Properly flown panicgeddons like Nulli flew can be nasty but certainly have their weaknesses and in the hands of -A- are fucking terrible.
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    New Fleetcomp for -A-.


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    dat EM and explosive hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    New Fleetcomp for -A-.

    This is a troll, right?

    Holy shit.


    EDIT : well, newbies have a new ship to fly - sensor boosted Probes to lock on to them and prevent -A- from cloaking

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    What in the literal fuck am I looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastachick View Post
    Are geddons still used in anything except low entry amarr L4 pve missions?
    Highsec AFK pos popping.

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    It doesn't take a genius to figure out why triple-trimarked, triple plated close range battleships with no base resist bonuses are a really really REALLY bad fucking idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richter Belmont View Post
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out why triple-trimarked, triple plated close range battleships with no base resist bonuses are a really really REALLY bad fucking idea.
    Logistics are hard.
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    Is this where I jump on the bandwagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richter Belmont View Post
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out why triple-trimarked, triple plated close range battleships with no base resist bonuses are a really really REALLY bad fucking idea.
    But, fleet phoons

    Okay maybe not triple plated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    New Fleetcomp for -A-.

    They seem to be missing warp core stabs.

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    Geddons are actually pretty good BS for their cost for short range stuff or low sec sheenenigans.

    It's just that there are more expensive but way better hulls out there outcompeting it (read Baddons).
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    I'm interested in hearing someone who flies in or with -A- tell us how -A- isn't absolute shit.

    Seriously, there are thousands of them. Someone has to have fun, or enjoy the community in -A-.

    Someone speak up please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystance View Post
    I'm interested in hearing someone who flies in or with -A- tell us how -A- isn't absolute shit.

    Seriously, there are thousands of them. Someone has to have fun, or enjoy the community in -A-.

    Someone speak up please.
    Paging Le'Blob itt

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    Nice new avatar Don, it suits you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystance View Post
    I'm interested in hearing someone who flies in or with -A- tell us how -A- isn't absolute shit.

    Seriously, there are thousands of them. Someone has to have fun, or enjoy the community in -A-.

    Someone speak up please.
    Confirming AAA now roams Esoteria in search of a "gudfite".


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    -a- is shit...yeah of course...if i were in an ally which loses every fight with 1:1 numbers and has to compensate this with immense blobbing and panic sc jumping i would say the same

    http://www.own3d.tv/faldal/watch/728704

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velonad View Post
    Nice new avatar Don, it suits you.
    Yeah - nobody wants me


    and I love onions

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    I actually like the thulium gimmick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richter Belmont View Post
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out why triple-trimarked, triple plated close range battleships with no base resist bonuses are a really really REALLY bad fucking idea.

    That's cause -A- and armour battleships dont compute.

    proper geddon fleet op:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngF88...eature=related <<-- 150 -A- "geddon" fleet getting raped by 320 NC./WN proper hellcats. Then Nulli warps into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faldal View Post
    -a- is shit...yeah of course...if i were in an ally which loses every fight with 1:1 numbers and has to compensate this with immense blobbing and panic sc jumping i would say the same

    http://www.own3d.tv/faldal/watch/728704
    That was the first major fight in over a week where -A- was able to come out ahead in terms of kills. Every other fight leading up to it had been fairly even in numbers with -A- taking far heavier losses. If you read in my BR, -A- did well and in many ways had us beaten, however no real blobbing happened as we had a few more in the beginning but lost enough guys early on that you badly outnumbered us for much of the fight. Yes we did bring in blap dreads to even it up, but our supers were only dropped to save said dreads as they came out of siege and our bridging titan (lol) if it started taking damage. I'm fairly sure if Makalu jumped instead of bridged his Avatar in 4-0 you'd jump in a bunch of southern supercarriers to support it. But all of this is irrelevant.

    Now that I've debunked your point about -A- being better spartan warriors in eve online, it must be mentioned that -A- skill or lack there of in this area is not really why we say you're shit. Sure we'll poke fun and level serious criticism, but we do that to everybody - especially our friends. People hate your culture, your posters and your attitude towards the game and other players. And making a bad post about hostiles blobbing and using caps and supers does little to dispel this. Try again.
    There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:

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    The vast majority of -A- pilots are too busy actually pvping to be nerding it up on a thread about how good they perceive themselves to be at pvp (Let's face it, I made this post while I was ratting, and you probably were reading it while ratting). That is why SoCo and, more specifically -A- , are all in the top 20 of eve-kill and her enemies all have tons of ratting systems with over 10k kills per 24 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le'Blob View Post
    The vast majority of -A- pilots are too busy actually pvping to be nerding it up on a thread about how good they perceive themselves to be at pvp (Let's face it, I made this post while I was ratting, and you probably were reading it while ratting). That is why SoCo and, more specifically -A- , are all in the top 20 of eve-kill and her enemies all have tons of ratting systems with over 10k kills per 24 hrs.
    ... not sure if serious

    Ok, something else I don't understand.

    Top 20 of eve-kill appears to be your victory, your measure of "creme de la creme" instead of say... isk destroyed in battles, or sovereignty kept, or people logged in, or ... well almost anything else that to -me-... seems to be a more reliable and incorruptible way of judging how good you are as a group.

    IN all seriousness, please explain to me how?


    (Also what's so bad about 10k npc kills per 24 hours, it means it's a highly utilized and valuable, AND DEVELOPED system that you cherish and want to defend. That means someone fought and died for that space. How is that a bad thing?)

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    Godammit Xystance why did you have to fall for it

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    Who cares about developed space? -A- certainly does not. Just about the only thing space does for -A- is provide some renter income for its corps and beyond that is fairly useless. All you get with sov space is more blues and who honestly wants that? -A- enjoys getting good killmails like anyone else, but there is going to be limits to anyones success when they are up against 1/2 of eve with the most supercap heavy alliances in the game. TEST and the CFC have been too busy circlejerking each other off to see how well -A- has actually done, given that -A- has never really cared about space.

    Not only did -A- get rid of some of the most useless allies ever (Hi Nulli) along with any territorial responsibilities to regions so far outside of -A- influence its not even funny, but -A- membership has been given a non-stop pvp environment that, for the most part, has been taken advantage of to the fullest extent. -A- is in the game for pvp only and I can understand how it might bevery difficult for people who have played the game with a blue list that encompasses 1/4 to 1/2 of the nullsec map at any given time to understand that. Nevertheless, its always worth seeing how things are on the other side of the fence, so if you get tired of never-ending blues, join the mustang ranch in game for BUSA recruitment.

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    Le'Blob, the key to being a good troll is in the subtlety. Please try to work on that and then get back to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le'Blob View Post
    Who cares about developed space? -A- certainly does not. Just about the only thing space does for -A- is provide some renter income for its corps and beyond that is fairly useless. All you get with sov space is more blues and who honestly wants that? -A- enjoys getting good killmails like anyone else, but there is going to be limits to anyones success when they are up against 1/2 of eve with the most supercap heavy alliances in the game. TEST and the CFC have been too busy circlejerking each other off to see how well -A- has actually done, given that -A- has never really cared about space.

    Not only did -A- get rid of some of the most useless allies ever (Hi Nulli) along with any territorial responsibilities to regions so far outside of -A- influence its not even funny, but -A- membership has been given a non-stop pvp environment that, for the most part, has been taken advantage of to the fullest extent. -A- is in the game for pvp only and I can understand how it might bevery difficult for people who have played the game with a blue list that encompasses 1/4 to 1/2 of the nullsec map at any given time to understand that. Nevertheless, its always worth seeing how things are on the other side of the fence, so if you get tired of never-ending blues, join the mustang ranch in game for BUSA recruitment.
    I'm taking this as a well played troll and actually plus repping you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le'Blob View Post
    Who cares about developed space? -A- certainly does not. Just about the only thing space does for -A- is provide some renter income for its corps and beyond that is fairly useless. All you get with sov space is more blues and who honestly wants that? -A- enjoys getting good killmails like anyone else, but there is going to be limits to anyones success when they are up against 1/2 of eve with the most supercap heavy alliances in the game. TEST and the CFC have been too busy circlejerking each other off to see how well -A- has actually done, given that -A- has never really cared about space.

    Not only did -A- get rid of some of the most useless allies ever (Hi Nulli) along with any territorial responsibilities to regions so far outside of -A- influence its not even funny, but -A- membership has been given a non-stop pvp environment that, for the most part, has been taken advantage of to the fullest extent. -A- is in the game for pvp only and I can understand how it might bevery difficult for people who have played the game with a blue list that encompasses 1/4 to 1/2 of the nullsec map at any given time to understand that. Nevertheless, its always worth seeing how things are on the other side of the fence, so if you get tired of never-ending blues, join the mustang ranch in game for BUSA recruitment.
    I bet there are some people in -A- leadership fistpumping the air right now happy that someone finally understands them. I will also guarantee these same people probably think that this is a very good recount of -A- as a whole. It's weird to see how dumb people can be sometimes. You're not a bad troll though, definitely got me a few pages back.

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    ITT bad posters admit to falling for bad trolls and gimmick accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivious View Post
    That's cause -A- and armour battleships dont compute.

    proper geddon fleet op:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngF88...eature=related <<-- 150 -A- "geddon" fleet getting raped by 320 NC./WN proper hellcats. Then Nulli warps into them.
    So a fleet got raped by another fleet more than twice the size?

    Stop the press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnknownPoster View Post
    I'm taking this as a well played troll and actually plus repping you.
    He's not trolling. I've been in a lot of alliances including some of the CFC, and I have to tell you, I've never seen such an aggressive alliance such as AAA. In here PVP is REALLY a way of life, you have to be a very active player to be on top of things, and last but not the least you have to really enjoy PVP, because you are really pushed to do it. In some AAA corps every 3 months, members are kicked out, after an extent audit to their activity. If they don't meet the expected performance, you're out, is as simple as that.

    We really don't care about space and to have friendly ties. Before Test came in, AAA and RA were shooting each other, even a SC died to one of our roams. We are now blue to RA but only because of circumstances. We fought them hard and what did we do ? We gave them space rigth at our door and continue to shoot each other! Does this make sense for you ? For AAA it does, like Le'Blob says and well, "-A- membership has been given a non-stop pvp environment"



    When people say we failed at diplomacy, they are right, but not because we tried and fail , is because we don't even tried it.

    Why I am in AAA ? Because of the challenge, because of the tremendous activity, because for a 2005 character this alliance provided me a reason to actually play the game every day. How many alliances out there offer you a a reason to do the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCoalist View Post
    Because of the challenge, because of the tremendous activity, because for a 2005 character this alliance provided me a reason to actually play the game every day. How many alliances out there offer you a a reason to do the same?
    TEST Alliance BEST Alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCoalist View Post
    He's not trolling.

    When people say we failed at diplomacy, they are right, but not because we tried and fail , is because we don't even tried it.

    Why I am in AAA ? Because of the challenge, because of the tremendous activity, because for a 2005 character this alliance provided me a reason to actually play the game every day. How many alliances out there offer you a a reason to do the same?
    I'm going to break it down here and show you where the rest of us are at.

    -A- likes to PVP
    and
    -A- likes shiny KB stats
    so
    -A- must like to win fights

    Winning fights =
    Solid fleet doctrines/counters
    Good FCing
    Near or Better Numbers
    That last part sometimes requires you have friends and bring them, otherwise known as diplomacy.
    It also requires that you coordinate things effectively between each other, otherwise known as leadership.

    In Delve -A- did none of these things.


    Which brings us to...

    When:
    -A- say they take pvp and winning seriously.
    and
    -A- does nothing required of them to create good fights or win.

    What conclusion do you think most of us reach at that point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystance View Post
    I'm interested in hearing someone who flies in or with -A- tell us how -A- isn't absolute shit.

    Seriously, there are thousands of them. Someone has to have fun, or enjoy the community in -A-.

    Someone speak up please.
    I've been in -A- since mid2008 just before the ROL split. Back then when ET and the other russian old guarde were in charge things were good. We were having fun, killing shit left and right, but suddenly a retarded BoB appears and thus the Kenzoku delve war begins. It ended with ET and other higher-ups burned out, and not long after this Manny stepped up (after handling the esoteria invasion, 'sup dbrb) only to burn out on provi aswell. After that I took a hiatus and came back around the Init. times.

    Basicly AAA has always been lagging behind the main alliances in eve organization structure wise. We used irc and jabber ofc, but not as extensively as BoB or Goons or more recently, Nulli. But it has got a certain charm. I for one doesn't log into this game after 7 years because it's thrilling dogfights and shit. Yes it's a nice adrenalin rush, but it's rare to come by if you don't have the gaming hours you used to. So for me, -A- being shit or not doesn't matter as much, since I've been playing with these ppl for over 2-3 years and I know there are always ups and downs.

    I guess my answer is pretty similar to a Razor members answer or any other long time (but casual) 0.0 resident grunt.

    edit: seriousposting like a pro, disregard that Le'blob fagott.
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    Holiest of holy's.
    It's a genuinely good fucking post by someone in -A-.

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    Ladies, we have counteD two good -A- posters, this guy and Dsan


    Also Free Dsan
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    (11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test

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    Power was meant to be abused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymir View Post
    So a fleet got raped by another fleet more than twice the size?

    Stop the press.
    I think you missed the point, haven't watched the video but I'm guessing the Nulli fleet owned everything cos they're good at geddons (and had -A- for a meatshield)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Far View Post
    I'm going to break it down here and show you where the rest of us are at.

    Which brings us to...

    When:
    -A- say they take pvp and winning seriously.
    and
    -A- does nothing required of them to create good fights or win.
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    Um no.

    -A- allows its pilot access to near constant pvp. I'd suggest very few of us take it seriously. PvPing is fun. It's what EVE is all about and -A- gives our corp plenty of access to it.

    Totally agree we have some suck fcs and our organisation could be a LOT better. On the flip side a large part of our issues is the fact that we rely on our members to sort their own shit out.

    On one hand this sucks because we dont have very organised logistics and dont babysit members from one doctrine/deployment to the next which means less efficiency.

    On the other hand our leaders are a bit less subject to burnout because they dont have to herd cats every night. On balance it means that I'm flying with people who are fairly capable compared to other alliance I've been in.

    There is a LOT of stuff -a- could do to improve. However if its fun.. who actually cares?

    Personally I'm glad to see Lee 'spellz' Chanka fcing again he's a great fc and fun to fly with.

    >-A- does nothing required of them to create good fights or win.

    And reading this you clearly have no clue what's going down in the south. Yesterday we:
    1. Flew to a shitty pos to RF it just to create a fight
    2. Flew two fleets to 319 to stir up some fights

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    Guys, it doesn't matter if we're shit to our allies, our leaders are incapable of leading, or that our line members all suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome!

    We're having fun taking this big fat Honeybadger dick all the way to the base of the shaft, and that's what matters!

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    What do you call an alliance that comes out to fight AFTER the space is lost and there's nothing on the line anymore?

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