We could burn you out of your entire empire, and your only recourse would be to run and hide in NPC space until our wrath was expended.
All it takes is one post.
We could burn you out of your entire empire, and your only recourse would be to run and hide in NPC space until our wrath was expended.
All it takes is one post.
(3:02:36 PM) LasarMotherfuckingBonghits: What you faggots dont get is what you dont get because you are faggots
Suck my dick Mandozer.
guys Catch is the best region in the game because we are full of carebear jews and people come to farm us all the time
-- some MM faggot, 2012
Yeah, Thulium. I once got very excited finding an unclaimed r64 in lowsec while all the r32s and so on were covered. Then I saw how worthless thulium actually is.Originally Posted by syndic thrass
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Butter Dog should start posting here to once again speed up the whole "pissing PL off so much that they steamroll their stuff" process
You might be surprised by Thulium in a few months time...Yeah, Thulium. I once got very excited finding an unclaimed r64 in lowsec while all the r32s and so on were covered. Then I saw how worthless thulium actually is.
On a related note, trading all my TF2 inventory for Thulium, PM me for details
they should remove all tech moons and add a new 0.0 system in the middle of highsec (that cant have player sov) where there's a star that can be harvested fro all the current tech-moons worth of tech
Easily the best idea I've heard in years, I'm behind this 100%.
Eve Online - best game in the world, made and maintained by the worst developer in the industry.
They should do this because it would undoubtedly end in more hilarious PL smartbombing titan loses.
Possibly the worst idea I've ever heard, but I'd completely ok with this.
I'm down for that as long as there's only one station, one gate and no moons or planets in that system, just a sun
Campers represent :black101:
That's one of the worst great ideas I've heard.
Brilliant, but rubbish.
I was hanging out with Vee, bolton and Shadoo last night (by hanging I mean listening while bolton talked for two and half hours and fielded their questions) and at some point the idea for a NPC 0.0 system or constellation in the middle of highsec came up. You could make it out of cyno range so it would be subcaps only and shit, idk just an intersting idea.
This sounds really cool, how could it work?
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
Horde it all and don't sell it for a month or two.I was hanging out with Vee, bolton and Shadoo last night (by hanging I mean listening while bolton talked for two and half hours and fielded their questions
This sounds really cool, how could it work?
guys we really didn't care about fountain sov. p.s - SOT being incompetent mouth breathing faggots, managed to cock up the sov transfer. It's all their fault
-- PL damage control
Yeah but those things are all true, also the curse of Y-2 didn't help
Waits eagerly to see if someone will actually 'go at' phreeze's post.
I don't know limits or boundaries, but others do..so I push em till I get what I desire
phreeze is a god shut your fucking whore mouth faggot
Sigged himself retarded.
Is that why you're up north?
Who would you fight if you were in Catch right now?
Also every region has something nearby to fight, even the tech fat areas up north, you're not blowing smoke up anybodies ass, Catch is shit, its shoehorned into nowhere, its miles from everything else, its bordered by more empty nowhere, and to top it all off its relatively worthless to boot.
Just end the debate guys, -A- is superior.
This is fact, no spin, on the fact zone.
Catch is p much the Cobalt Edge of that part of the map. I too want to be freed from the bounds of Sov to go do wulfpax in the ass end of nowhere. Back to our Roots~~
In other words, awesome for mining bots?
My suggestion would be, as others have done in this thread, to make multiple "hills" for people to be king of. And more importantly, making it difficult for an alliance/coalition to be the king of all the hills in the game.
I have no problem whatsoever that Goonswarm or PL or NC. are making more isk than any other alliance in the game. They have proven to be the strongest alliances so far. My problem with the current distribution of moon mining (which should be revamped alltogether) is that you have 4-5 regions in close proximity with way too easy logistics for people in Deklein to help defend or attack in any other 0.0 tech-holding region in the game. It's fine that there is a bottleneck, but the degree bottleneck which exists right now is just ridiculous. Nobody is suggesting, at least not me, to remove the pofitability of Tech as the bottleneck of alliance income.
My suggestion would be (if the whole moon mining distribution and making it an active income instead of passive) to add Tech moons (say 10-15 in each) to Period Basis, Feythabolis and maybe Outer Passage. That would mean that if an alliance or coalition would want to be the king of a hill, they wouldn't have to fight the combined forces of CFC, NC. and PL. The alliance holding these tech moons would get a very good income, but would ideally not be able to surround itself with pets granted tech moons, as the current distribution of Tech allows in the north.
Feythabolis is an okay region, and Paragon Soul is a good region for bots, and I'm not sure about Esoteria, but it seems decent.
The rest of the south is utter shit (this doesn't include the southeast which, while still crappy, has its decent constellations in Det/Ins/maybe Cache but I've never been, or the southwest which has ~mother Delve~), and pretty much the only reason anyone would live there these days is because they can't live anywhere else because they're fucking terrible alliances, or Providence Holders who love that region more than is healthy.
Well I'm just a grunt in the grand scheme of things... but sure you can roll through again and grind through all the timers and reinforce our really shitty space with your big bad supercapital fleet. Who are you going to bring with you this time around? TEST, NCdot, Goons, the rest of the CFC? Yeah, it will be like a big "Fuck You" to us.
And Penif, as a fellow brown person: You make yourself look like an idiot and you need to be taught some manners.
rage about it in alliance chat some more lmao
Penif you are insulting our mutual heritage by not being very nice on the internet.
Seriously, who the fuck is this guy?
Penif is not Indian.
Waziristani, I think it was.
The problem with multiple 'hills' is it doesn't benefit anyone. With 3-4 hills you would get Goonswarm, PL, NC. and Test squatting on the respective tops, giving us the exact same situation as now, but without any neighboury rivarly, as the currently friendly rivals would be seperated and any opportunity for friction removed. Lets be honest, even with Otec in full swing, having Goons, PL, and NC. rubbing shoulders is rife for 'diplomatic incidents' that just wouldn't happen if PL were sat in Delve, us in Dek, and NC. in Feythabolis - Hell, I would be amazed if Otec is still around come August as we are, we just don't like each other enough. Just look at Test/FA for a perfect example of sibling rivalry; if they were on seperate hills, they would be getting along fine, but shoulder-to-shoulder like they are now, brings us the occasional spark that on the wrong day could flare spectacularly (love you both though).
OK, there is the arguement that pulled apart, the likes of Solar and AAA could take a swing at the weakest of the hilltops, but all that leaves us with is 2-3 unassailable pinnacles, and one thats being fought continuosly, which is what the north is now. And as we have seen in the last year, everyone deploys where the action is, so you'd even have the other hilltop owners showing up for goodfights, and nothing really changing. Its not really gained us anything.
You add too many hilltops, and suddenly everyone of any reasonable size/strength has one, and then theres even less reason to look towards someone elses hilltop.
I'm not saying something shouldn't be done, it should, things are verging on the ridiculous at the moment, it just isn't quite as easy as it may seem.
EDIT - Oh, and should a multiple-hill thing ever become reality, I would like to throw a vote for giving a ton of money moons to Providence, simply because it would be hilarious...
What?
Well of course, the point of King of the Hill is that not every one gets to stand on top and anyone who wants to has to push the biggest, strongest dude off. If RnK want a cut, they can come north and prove they're strong enough to take it.I like the idea of having R64's top dawg but only if it's all of the R64's and not just a couple. That leads to the same type of thing, where one or two entities hold the majority.
That actually happened with the Dominion anom boost and resulted in CVA being thrown out on their ass. Once shit got nerfed, everyone competent left and CVA took back over.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
bring back AOE DD tia
you are going to have a lot of angry people when entire maelstrom fleets start turning into little white triangles.
who gives a shit, we'll warp out our rokhs and laugh as you expendable TEST noobs beef up our titans' k/d
"Guys, [s]BoB, IT, Atlas, NC, DRF [/s] OTEC is unbeatable because of [s]AOE DD, caps, blobs/Tech, supers[/s] Tech. They are ruining the game and Eve will turn stagnant and nothing will happen. RIP Eve, this is the beginning of the end. Doom and gloom 2012, the Mayans were right
- Eve pubbies, 2002-?
True, I have raped history, but it has produced some beautiful offspring
Nah man Tech is for fags, apparently all the cool kids went back to their roots doing wulfpax in Catch, we just didn't get the memo.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/G-ME2K
The Triple Of A's why are you botting here, I thought you where honourable eve loving tech fighting CFC beating samurais
hypocripes
It's a Sansha missioning hub and has perma neutrals in it. People run missions there usually with heavy escorts.
Jesus ~A~ sounds like some shit you would see in the recruitment channel to join some RPers in Curse or something "running missions with heavy escorts". ~A~ is literally The Butterfly Effect trailer.
So let me get this striaght, you're contending that alliances will only be motivated fight to get more of what they already have, rather than desiring a second resource type? Like "We only want Dysprosium ISK; we don't care for Promethium ISK, you can keep it even though you're historically and currently our bitter enemy."
"Guys, [s]BoB, IT, Atlas, NC, DRF [/s] OTEC is unbeatable because of [s]AOE DD, caps, blobs/Tech, supers[/s] Tech. They are ruining the game and Eve will turn stagnant and nothing will happen. RIP Eve, this is the beginning of the end. Doom and gloom 2012, the Mayans were right
- Eve pubbies, 2002-?
They have found a Mayan calendar that goes past this year.
I thought what he was saying was if you make multiple hilltops the same people who own the current hill would spread the the 4 corners of eve to sit on them, but still be bffs.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
Well, seeing as Goonswarm/other CFC entities/PL/NC. are currently content to only have a quarter of the Tech stockpile apiece, and thats when the other three quarters are right next door. If the current number of money moons was divided into four, and flug to four seperate corner of the map, why would they be more inclined to go and get it when its far away than they are already when its right next door a single Titan bridge away. After all, Goonswarm and NC. are already saying "We only want three regions of Tech; we don't care for your three regions of Tech, you can keep it even though you're historically and currently our bitter enemy."
They said they intended that things like moons and truesec would be unbalanced. The problem may be the degree of the imbalance but no one (except Mfum) is saying "tech is fine". So you're pretty much just preaching to the choir (an obscenely tech rich choir).
Given that motherfuckers aren't fighting over the first resource type right now, why would they fight over a second or third if each of them could simply take one racial moon type apiece and keep the price manipulation in-house?
I think a much worse outcome of having multiple hills to stand on is that you end up without a conflict driver, and with shitty entities standing on a hill instead of everyone fighting for a foothold on THE hill. Forcing a constant churn of "serious" alliances as reigning king is dethroned through apathy/incompetence to be replaced by a newer, more involved/competent alliance after it breaks the alliances on their way to the top and sends scurrying to "Get back to their roots." and die so someone even newer can take the pieces and make a play for the throne.
Basically I think every major nullsec alliance should be crammed into no more than 3 and a half regions (the half region being one of the super tiny ones like Fade), so that every one "serious" is forced to fight each other just for the right to live there, while leaving all the rest of nullsec open for the smaller/casual/developing entities to play the sov game. Imbalanced distribution of moon income is a really good way of accomplishing that. The moon doesn't have to be tech, and regions don't have to be in the north. I wouldn't give a shit if they made it Delve Querious and Period Basis again, just as long as their was one moon to rule them all and everyone had to walk into Mordor to get it.
Dumbest idea ever......
Constant fights guarantee burnout, and you'll have a half empty 0.0 again due to everyone saying fuck it, it's not worth it anymore..
Not to mention, the idea that new Alliances will keep forming to take down the old ones? With no place to start out and gain some isk and experience?
Ya, that would work out great......
Doesn't matter. Before that it was Dyspro and Prom.
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I don't think the problem with tech is that it's the most profitable moon mineral or even its distribution, really. Even if it's a bit daft that a r32 is more valuable than an r64. Something will always be at the top of the hill and that's fine. The problem is how large the drop off is to the second best moon, and the third best and so on.
They would have literally everywhere else to start out.Dumbest idea ever......
Constant fights guarantee burnout, and you'll have a half empty 0.0 again due to everyone saying fuck it, it's not worth it anymore..
Not to mention, the idea that new Alliances will keep forming to take down the old ones? With no place to start out and gain some isk and experience?
Ya, that would work out great......
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
If tech was back down to 30k/unit you might see more fighting between OTEC states. At the current price of 200k / unit (or even at 100k / unit) the income generated exceeds what you can reasonably spend. If you've already got more money than you can reasonably spend, the motivation to go through the effort of Eve Sov/POS Warfare with the timers and the alarm clocking and herding your guys out around space 2 regions away at 2 in the morning loses its shine. What's the point? You already own everything in the game and can replace it.
CCP have been waiting for the free market to balance the tech out, assuming that the market will find a ceiling for T2 and thus find a ceiling for tech. Either their math was wrong on how high tech would rise before reaching that ceiling, or their assumptions about what people would pay for T2 were wrong. Having tech king is not necessarily bad, having one moon produce 400+ mil a day is probably not wanted nor predicted by CCP.
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