Delvolution

[Djehngo]

I understand that it's not even worth a try to find someone intelligent and old enough here to have a civilized conversation, so I'll just post what I think. First of all, -A- and SoCo is getting blobbed by Goons/TEST/PL and their pets. This is their way of playing EVE? Fine, it's a sandbox game after all.
When was the last time when CFC won a battle versus EQUAL numbers of SoCo? Answer is simple: it never happened. Every time when numbers are equal SoCo wins. CFC pilots don't know how to fight when they don't outnumber you 4 to 1 - and it is also a well-known fact. They always run away if they don't have 3x more people than enemy fleet. Everything else is speculation.

As for people that say -A- is doing nothing. -A- is top #1 PVP alliance. -A- always survived and will survive. -A- beaten (with allies of course) X.I.X, beaten RED, Controlled Chaos, DeadTerrorists, Init. and the list goes on. Makalu is good FC, but he is not the only FC we have and it is also a simple fact. We've been destroying you for weeks during our north deployment, we were killing your TEST fleets day after day with little effort during our deployment to Uemon, when you decided that you can "help" someone there by moving in. And really, TEST failed miserably in every conflict unless Goons came to bail them out. We all know it is the truth. Pets.

Also, about SOLAR. -A- literally saved their ass, not the other way around. We held the line, we fought and died against PL titan blobs, RFed LXQ again and again so that they fight us, while SOLAR could rep up on their timers. But noob grunts don't know that, all they know is what their pathetic goon-propaganda tells them.
In the end of the day you don't fight with 150 against 1000, that's just stupid. We can stay in 319 or we can go to LGK. You obviously DO NOT want to fight. Don't lie. You know oh so well that you greatly outnumber SoCo fleets right now, so if your pathetic FCs really want a fight - bring adequate numbers. You may say anything you want, but your actions show the truth, even if you pretend that you bring normal fleet, when fight starts you immediately cyno in another 2 full fleets that were waiting on some titan. You DO NOT want to fight, you want to blob. So be it. Blob that NPC station as long as you like, have fun starring into space doing nothing.

As a pet your master should be rubbing your nose in thise post and telling you "no".

[Sentinel Eeex]

I could never imagine that watching tornadocamp would be this entertaining.

Well, entertaining for some, humiliating for others.

[Diotima Saraki]

the last bastion of true literature chat entered the war and in 40 pages of discussion nobody has quoted Chekhov yet?

disappointing.

[Coolley]

I question whether our fried "a4life" is even in -a- (posting to remove adds, first and last post)

[Soni]

Just sayin'

http://kill.hunreloaded.hu/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2

Welcome to Delve!

[Grath]

Huns are actually pretty baller overall, sneaky as fuck, but baller all the same.

Its really weird, the actual residents of Delve that we're removing aren't bad at all to fight, they fight, they add excitement, they TRY things.....but their back up is AAA, so any hope of survival is instantly flushed the second they call for help.

Before AAA got involved, Nulli was winning fights, they were wearing on things in places and though at times it was grim, at other times it was glorious. We rag on progod a lot but I've always said he's calm and fairly levelheaded during a fight, and they attempt to adapt and keep going to change the course of things around them. What the south and East need is a leader who's not AAA. If AAA really dont care about sov let them live in Stain and be the roaming wulfpax guys they are in their dreams, but then they should try to avoid the politics and sov holding entities around them.

It never fails that AAA fail their allies at zero hour, its a historical fact. And they can cry about the organizational skills of their enemies all they want, but its them that shoot themselves in the foot every time by abandoning their allies at those critical moments, so year to year everybody around AAA is somebody new, or a rehashed version of some failure that they let die last year.

If I was Guderian or Progod right now, I would be lobbying Mactep for a place on the eastern side of the universe. Your styles match up so much better than those of AAA's, and you would actually augment what is a fairly tight fighting force on their end. Not only that, but I've seen first hand what happens when Solars house gets attacked, and it doesn't look anything like what AAA does.

[DurrHurrDurr]

Nulli Secunda corp mail:

GET ALL OF your stuff out of C3n or other SOV systems in Delve. Move Everything to 319 or deep PB.
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All Towers in delve need to be taken down. Asside from strategic towers.

We will loose these systems, that is the offficial word from alliance leadership. So all combat ships to 319.

PB is semi safe it will be ground down. So i would recomend that it is moved out as well

All shiney stuff and anthing you do not want to risk Move into NPC delve or low sec. keep in mind we are at war atm. We will do move fleets this week into the weekend.

DO NOT get to heavily invested in the loki fleet as leadership has been told it will only be used 6 times.





IT BEGINS

[enigma]

Just sayin'

https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=31

Would be relevant if I cared about KB stats

I don't

[KariJ]

Nulli Secunda corp mail:

GET ALL OF your stuff out of C3n or other SOV systems in Delve. Move Everything to 319 or deep PB.
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All Towers in delve need to be taken down. Asside from strategic towers.

We will loose these systems, that is the offficial word from alliance leadership. So all combat ships to 319.

PB is semi safe it will be ground down. So i would recomend that it is moved out as well

All shiney stuff and anthing you do not want to risk Move into NPC delve or low sec. keep in mind we are at war atm. We will do move fleets this week into the weekend.

DO NOT get to heavily invested in the loki fleet as leadership has been told it will only be used 6 times.





IT BEGINS

Let Operation Hellcamp C3N begin?

[Prodnovick]

Just sayin'

http://kill.hunreloaded.hu/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2

Welcome to Delve!

Tell me more about your 83% efficiency and how proud you are.

[Yang Wenli]

Shadoo, I'm sure you know as well as anybody that there's no way in heaven or hell that -A- would ever acquiesce to being skymarshalled by somebody else.

This whole thread is full of stupid posts that are so far removed from reality.

First off, a couple examples of how non-AAA FCs have been allowed to run the show for AAA before:

1) Stain Empire's top FC ran the re-conquest of Catch on behalf of AAA and ROL after IT collapsed. Maka was involved as well, but he was the second chair behind Tek (of SE) in every way. This war was 99% his victory, and it's the reason why AAA gave him a huge gift as a thank-you (I believe it was a fitted super-carrier).

2) The defense of HED was run by Progod of Nulli as much, if not more, than anyone else. He was every bit as much in charge of that as Maka or PK, and in fact it was HIS ship doctrine ("Panic Geddons") that was used by the entire coalition. AAA FCs had planned to use PL-style Hellcat Abaddons and/or Drake blobs, but Progod had his way. There was absolutely no reservation in PK or Maka's mind about letting Progod do his job, and they all took turns, but he was really the architect of the close-range BS strategy.

I have no idea who is running the shit in Delve, as I am not involved anymore, but since this whole thread is basically PL and CFC dudes trying to recruit Nulli into their ever-expanding legion of crap I couldn't help but make a serious-post.

[WNxWolfy]

anyone with the slighest bit of foresight already moved most of their shit out.

[Solar Fleet Best Fleet]

If I was Guderian or Progod right now, I would be lobbying Mactep for a place on the eastern side of the universe. Your styles match up so much better than those of AAA's, and you would actually augment what is a fairly tight fighting force on their end. Not only that, but I've seen first hand what happens when Solars house gets attacked, and it doesn't look anything like what AAA does.

Confirming this is a very good idea.

Seriously Nulli, do this. If you like to fight we would love to have you.

[raw]

maybe that works because the CFC/PL isn't in a state of perpetual butthurt.


just sayin

[dabigredboat [banned]]

Just sayin'

http://kill.hunreloaded.hu/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2

Welcome to Delve!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13871470

Lose 150 drakes. Get 200 drakes 2 seconds later. Hostiles dock up after WINNING.

Welcome to delve!

[DeLeon]

Tell me more about your 83% efficiency and how proud you are.

We are having fun actually and we are proud of it

[Toasted]

I guess we're gonna test the boundries of what is known.

I shall enjoy watching what happens when your wagons reach 4GQ

[Kitty Vintner]

Those two alliances aren't large but they've had a very long time to milk renters, bot and build their small but capable fleets. CFC would be foolish to think they could stay any length of time in areas beyond a few jumps from the Catch border.

Yep, nothing like jewing to build a capable PvP alliance.

said the goon

The impression I'm getting is that CFC will be the rabbits to Stain's Australia.

[Dysphonia]

I shall enjoy watching what happens when your wagons reach 4GQ

I dont see whats so enjoyable about watching large anchorable bubbles and Wrik Hoover tornados for weeks on end.

[Endie]

Nulli Secunda corp mail:

DO NOT get to heavily invested in the loki fleet as leadership has been told it will only be used 6 times.

By an odd coincidence, NCdot are also telling their pilots to sell their Lokis, today. It was quite a stylish message, no troll YOU ARE ALL TERRIBLE SELL YOUR LOKI I SAID SELL IT YOU RETARDED DANGLEBERRIES YOU'RE NOT FIT TO GRACE ITS CABIN or words to that effect.

[Publius]

It looks like PHA, true to form, is once again bailing on their alliance once things get tough. No surprise, this makes Operation Alliance Bail #5. Sorry, Nulli.

1) Atlas MkI - Rather than join fleets and actually help out, they spent their time botting and farming as far from the front lines as possible. There was friction about it, and the instant things started to look bad they bailed everything and everyone out before the timer war had even begun.

2) Systematic-Chaos - PHA joined Sys-k next, simply because they had space for jewing. Once that space looked lost, they bailed, and went to…

3) En Garde (-A-) - They went to -A- and asked if they could join, and get their own system, but were told that there was a quota of kills that had to be hit first. So while the SoCo conquests of Querious/Delve/Period Basis were rolling, PHA left everyone else to the sov wars and instead camped low sec until they had enough kills to join. So they went back to -A- and were told to fuck off, the kills didn't count. Points to -A- for standing up on this.

4) AtlasDOT - PHA then went to Shmak Datass about joining AtlasDOT. Of course, they required their own private system for botting/farming in. As soon as things started to look bad for Atlas., they bailed as usual, leaving their brethren to struggle yet again.

5) Nulli - As soon as AtlasDOT got into trouble, PHA bailed and started talking to both FAIL and Nulli. What were the factors? Military size? FC ability? Plans? Logistical ability? Nope. It was whether they could have their own private system again. FAIL said no, Nulli said yes, so PHA went off to Nulli space and carebeared like mad until the present.

So, in the present, as of last night PHA has held an "all hands" meeting to discuss where they're going to go next. Through all of this there's been no discussion of how to help their alliance, how to defend, how to stand up, how to even undock…. Somehow, time and again, they get another alliance to let them in to fire up their botting machine. They're just bailing the fuck out on Nulli, just like they have everyone else.

PHA is only in 0.0 for the isk. While that's true of lots of pilots, most have some semblance of defense abilities, or interest in joining fleets. These guys do not. They move into your 0.0 space, jew it up, and bail the second things look bad.


Whoever takes them in next, or whoever they approach next, should know that. They have a few super caps and older members, but you won't see them in combat. And if your alliance needs backbone when the shit hits the fan, these guys aren't it. They're in that class of corps that *should* be renters, but somehow have gotten away without paying rent for 8 years now.

[Vee]

is this when we mention that suiciding 200 drakes into lokis that one day was on purpose to make all these dudes think they're actually good?

[jimmychrist]

The hell, endie?

[Solar Fleet Best Fleet]

PHA is only in 0.0 for the isk. While that's true of lots of pilots, most have some semblance of defense abilities, or interest in joining fleets. These guys do not. They move into your 0.0 space, jew it up, and bail the second things look bad.

I never understood this notion. What's the point of having isk if you're not going to use it for fighting. So you can buy a titan and then just fucking sit in it all day without shooting anything?

You make isk so you can fight, you take moons so you can go on massive conquests ... you don't just sit on it.

[Atropos]

I never understood this notion. What's the point of having isk if you're not going to use it for fighting. So you can buy a titan and then just fucking sit in it all day without shooting anything?

You make isk so you can fight, you take moons so you can go on massive conquests ... you don't just sit on it.

Invariably, these types of pilots are the ones who end up losing their expensive ratting ships to random gatecamps or neuts they don't notice in system or blops drops, etc.
So, they need to spend their hard-earned iskies to replace their losses, losses exacerbated by their total ineptitude at combat.

That or they use their ISK to play the market game to make more isk, to play more of the market game to...

[A4life]

The rest of the post is just random hurf blurf crying ... but this ... this is upsetting.

-A- hid in their stations for weeks as PL titans did victory laps around them. You only came out once PL and NCdot were hired to help xDeath in their war against us. Once Solar stations and Sov were on the line you had no problem sending fleets of coward tengu's to "assist" us. Tengu's that ran away as soon as my fellow SOLAR warriors were blapped and your meatshield was gone.

So don't even fucking try to spin that shit like -A- are the saviors of SOLAR and not just a bunch of risk-adverse k/d obsessed faggots. Well, your leadership is at least, I know some good guys in -A- but unfortunately they don't have control of anything.

Yes, I am mad. You didn't save SOLAR, and SOLAR won't save you. Because you're not worth saving.

You obviously have no clue about that part of war. When we started saving SOLAR ass there it was before tengu fleet doctrine. We had to strike immediately just to distract, in fact, during first days we didn't even had SOLAR blue, though were already working toward same goal. What stations are you talking about? Back than we were deployed in Uemon, your "victory laps" never happened there. We payed in our blood for your timers and you know it. Or you don't, because you've never been in SOLAR to start with, stupid troll and failure of a human being.

Do you not realise that any story you may tell yourself about how terrible these people killing you are is irrelevent. Deal with facts alone, it doesn't matter how you are being erased the fact that you are is all that matters, you are doing the equivalent of saying "well if they fought us with a hand tied behind their back we would win " and being smug about it. The facts are that irrespective of any little story you tell yourself you are having your shit pushed right in so far it tickles the back of your throat. If you can salvage some sort of deluded "we won the moral fight" then all power to you but all I see is the cold fact that you are being wiped off the map and there is nothing you can do about it. Accept you are shit and stop caring - it's by far the best path...

Moral fight has nothing to do with it. You will die in Catch, not even Stain, mark my word.

You guys really forgot where your place is. Actually, the only reason you're doing fine right now is because PL is also holding your hand. Same situation was around two years ago when Init, Co2, DT and other minor entities invaded Catch and down all the way to Feythabolis. We only stopped their assault in XWY system. They never took it, even with PL backing them up. It was our last bridge to Impass and it held, that was the point in war when we started to win our systems back. Some time passed and PL contract eventually ended, then it was over for all the scrubs that were left alone. Same will happen to you, I don't believe in PL doing long term charity.
So far you've met only some -A- folks and Nulli with some friends and call this people "SoCo". You forgot about all the alliances that are just waiting in our home regions. We didn't blueball or batphone any of them and we didn't gather our blobs just yet, but trust me - we will if there's such need.

Also, for all the guys here blabling about how they "burn", "pillage" etc. I dare you to come to Catch. I doubt your kitchen sink fleets that you gather now have enough stamina for a long war away from home. You're having some success right now due to few factors and one of them is the time of year, many players are not in the game due to enjoying sun elsewhere, having vacations etc. especially it is the case with russian guys.

P.S. I was right, there's no intelligent people here that would like to have a pleasant conversation, only trolls and emokids with issues.

[Opti]

Just sayin'

http://kill.hunreloaded.hu/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2

Welcome to Delve!

lol hungary

couldnt even point out that shithole on a map

[Fix Lag]

words

gimmick account

[Montolio]

The best part of the badposting by our enemies is that TEST has been promoted out of the generic 'pets' category and into the slashes category. "TEST/PL/GSF and pets"

Does kugu have a smug emote?

[Fix Lag]

The best part of the badposting by our enemies is that TEST has been promoted out of the generic 'pets' category and into the slashes category. "TEST/PL/GSF and pets"

Does kugu have a smug emote?

Do the chickens have large talons?

[Max]

Yes.

[nightlord]

I think its just keep posting montolio.

[Themick]

You obviously have no clue about that part of war. When we started saving SOLAR ass there it was before tengu fleet doctrine. We had to strike immediately just to distract, in fact, during first days we didn't even had SOLAR blue, though were already working toward same goal. What stations are you talking about? Back than we were deployed in Uemon, your "victory laps" never happened there. We payed in our blood for your timers and you know it. Or you don't, because you've never been in SOLAR to start with, stupid troll and failure of a human being.


Moral fight has nothing to do with it. You will die in Catch, not even Stain, mark my word.

You guys really forgot where your place is. Actually, the only reason you're doing fine right now is because PL is also holding your hand. Same situation was around two years ago when Init, Co2, DT and other minor entities invaded Catch and down all the way to Feythabolis. We only stopped their assault in XWY system. They never took it, even with PL backing them up. It was our last bridge to Impass and it held, that was the point in war when we started to win our systems back. Some time passed and PL contract eventually ended, then it was over for all the scrubs that were left alone. Same will happen to you, I don't believe in PL doing long term charity.
So far you've met only some -A- folks and Nulli with some friends and call this people "SoCo". You forgot about all the alliances that are just waiting in our home regions. We didn't blueball or batphone any of them and we didn't gather our blobs just yet, but trust me - we will if there's such need.

Also, for all the guys here blabling about how they "burn", "pillage" etc. I dare you to come to Catch. I doubt your kitchen sink fleets that you gather now have enough stamina for a long war away from home. You're having some success right now due to few factors and one of them is the time of year, many players are not in the game due to enjoying sun elsewhere, having vacations etc. especially it is the case with russian guys.

P.S. I was right, there's no intelligent people here that would like to have a pleasant conversation, only trolls and emokids with issues.

"come at me bro" is really all you got dude? Fuck it, I like nulli, but I hope -A- gets sent to highsec.

[progodlegend]

This whole thread is full of stupid posts that are so far removed from reality.

First off, a couple examples of how non-AAA FCs have been allowed to run the show for AAA before:

1) Stain Empire's top FC ran the re-conquest of Catch on behalf of AAA and ROL after IT collapsed. Maka was involved as well, but he was the second chair behind Tek (of SE) in every way. This war was 99% his victory, and it's the reason why AAA gave him a huge gift as a thank-you (I believe it was a fitted super-carrier).

2) The defense of HED was run by Progod of Nulli as much, if not more, than anyone else. He was every bit as much in charge of that as Maka or PK, and in fact it was HIS ship doctrine ("Panic Geddons") that was used by the entire coalition. AAA FCs had planned to use PL-style Hellcat Abaddons and/or Drake blobs, but Progod had his way. There was absolutely no reservation in PK or Maka's mind about letting Progod do his job, and they all took turns, but he was really the architect of the close-range BS strategy.

I have no idea who is running the shit in Delve, as I am not involved anymore, but since this whole thread is basically PL and CFC dudes trying to recruit Nulli into their ever-expanding legion of crap I couldn't help but make a serious-post.

That's largely accurate, the only thing is that the geddons weren't supposed to be used in high lag situations . Alpha fleet was supposed to be used. But yes, I did succeed in having one of my fleet comps become one of the 3 fleet comps we used. No sarcasm there by the way, very good, honest, and accurate post. However, I still was not in charge, just happened to convince them that my fleet comp would work against some of theirs in certain situations).

We did hold HED for 2 weeks by the way .

[Warband]

This whole thread is full of stupid posts that are so far removed from reality.

First off, a couple examples of how non-AAA FCs have been allowed to run the show for AAA before:

1) Stain Empire's top FC ran the re-conquest of Catch on behalf of AAA and ROL after IT collapsed. Maka was involved as well, but he was the second chair behind Tek (of SE) in every way. This war was 99% his victory, and it's the reason why AAA gave him a huge gift as a thank-you (I believe it was a fitted super-carrier).

2) The defense of HED was run by Progod of Nulli as much, if not more, than anyone else. He was every bit as much in charge of that as Maka or PK, and in fact it was HIS ship doctrine ("Panic Geddons") that was used by the entire coalition. AAA FCs had planned to use PL-style Hellcat Abaddons and/or Drake blobs, but Progod had his way. There was absolutely no reservation in PK or Maka's mind about letting Progod do his job, and they all took turns, but he was really the architect of the close-range BS strategy.

I have no idea who is running the shit in Delve, as I am not involved anymore, but since this whole thread is basically PL and CFC dudes trying to recruit Nulli into their ever-expanding legion of crap I couldn't help but make a serious-post.

Lul, PK ran the defense of HED, no PGL.

[Max B]

Moral fight has nothing to do with it. You will die in Catch, not even Stain, mark my word.

done.

Also, for all the guys here blabling about how they "burn", "pillage" etc. I dare you to come to Catch. I doubt your kitchen sink fleets that you gather now have enough stamina for a long war away from home. You're having some success right now due to few factors and one of them is the time of year, many players are not in the game due to enjoying sun elsewhere, having vacations etc. especially it is the case with russian guys.

oh, so you will be active in september then ? good to know.

[Raketefrau]

If I was Guderian or Progod right now, I would be lobbying Mactep for a place on the eastern side of the universe. Your styles match up so much better than those of AAA's, and you would actually augment what is a fairly tight fighting force on their end. Not only that, but I've seen first hand what happens when Solars house gets attacked, and it doesn't look anything like what AAA does.

Heh, ultimate outcome would be:

1) FAIL booted from Querious for RA (what, 3 months ago?)
2) FAIL booted from Detorid to make room for Nulli

Eve politics at their most amusing. Make it so.

[Kosssaw]

You're having some success right now due to few factors and one of them is the

fact that Makalu thinks -A- can sit this one out until TEST and the CFC get bored burning delve and go home.

He's wrong.

Makalu is no Evil Thug and -A- is not the Alliance it was when my corp was in it. Unfortunately for you, it is even worse now than it was when my corp left it. Nulli asked -A- to come here to help. Sitting in 319 waiting for the CFC to leave is not "help" - it is leaving Nulli to die.

[Tappits]

God

You are so fucking bad, why are you even here? Your shit trolls are so bad even some one with no mind could not even believe that anything you say could be true.
You (-A-) totally won the solar war? are you for real? you are the most useless alliance in eve..... you make black legion look good.

I have no idea how you keep thinking your relevant in eve at all... your worse than jita gankers.

"I dare you to come to Catch!" lol you have lost catch more times than than test have lost a rifter fleet.
You don't undock to save anything even there. you have back stabbed/left to die every alliance you have ever been blue with. you have not won a single campaign in the last 3 years..... but your the #1 pvp alliance in the game....

[Ron Mexxico]

ITT: morons fall for gimmick accounts

[Hilmar Keller]

DO NOT get to heavily invested in the loki fleet as leadership has been told it will only be used 6 times.

The fuck? Not five, or seven? I don't really understand this part.

[Centra]

The worst part of the influx of bad posters and gimmick accounts is that the normal bad southern posters don't look retarded anymore.

[Themick]

If that is a gimmick, my apologies for being dumb enough to fall for it. If the dude is actually a triple a member, then yes, they are quite fucked.

[Stormy]

Also, for all the guys here blabling about how they "burn", "pillage" etc. I dare you to come to Catch.

I wouldn't be daring anyone to do anything right now if I was you.

Hey Nulli, we dare you to ask us for help.

Well, at least you held up your end of that bargain, eh? Just like everyone predicted.

As a casual outside observer of this war I will be cheering Goons and HB along every step of the way. Where's your famous Maverick Navy now, Pikey?

[Toasted]

The fuck? Not five, or seven? I don't really understand this part.

http://numerology-thenumbersandtheir.../number-6.html

http://www.betemunah.org/six.html

The number six holds great significance to many peoples. It is no accident the loki fleet was only to be employed six times...

[Solar Fleet Best Fleet]

Yes it's starting to look like a gimmick account to me as well, unless -A- pilots really have become that delusional.

fact that Makalu thinks -A- can sit this one out until TEST and the CFC get bored burning delve and go home.

He's wrong.

Makalu is no Evil Thug and -A- is not the Alliance it was when my corp was in it. Unfortunately for you, it is even worse now than it was when my corp left it. Nulli asked -A- to come here to help. Sitting in 319 waiting for the CFC to leave is not "help" - it is leaving Nulli to die.

Oh how I long for the Evil Thug -A- days ...

The modern day -A- is some kind of cruel bastardization and they don't even realize it.

[Sath]

IT BEGINS

Christ, whatever corp rolled out that mail is literally a week behind the times. Here's hoping their membership don't get burned too badly because their leadership decided to ignore prior alliance recommendations.

[Checkbox Poll]

got yo assets, valor inc

[Checkbox Poll]

not me personally but a TIA guy

[Rer]

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