Focus On The Family: Daily Tidbits from Christians

**Securitas** · 2012-03-30

I found this absolutely hilarious site and I figure I'll post small quotes and passages from this Christian family site, the denizens of which largely live in an alternate reality set a few decades back. You can watch as they discuss HUGE and EARTH-SHATTERING problems and pray for eachother. The funniest part isn't the often prejudiced ideas, but instead the fact that these people seem to be living in a different version of America than the rest of us, judging from their surprise at relatively common things.

Let's hit it off with today's tidbits:

[SPOILER='In which a mother details a very important problem for the internet to solve']
I could use some help in dealing with a soon-to-be-step-son that says "i told you so".

I was watching a movie with my future step son. There was character in the movie that I recognized, but didn't know the name(not having seen the movie in a while). He guessed it was so and so. Later in the movie the name was revealed and he was proud of himself and said "I told you so". That being a pet peeve of mine I have been too upset to say something. Part of the reason I'm still upset is because I don't know how to explain to him that bragging isn't ok, nor does it show good sportsmanship.

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[SPOILER='Help! My son likes to crochet!']
My 11 y/o son is showing strong interest/giftedness in "feminine" arts.

My son is 11 years old, left--handed, the 3rd (middle child) of 4 children, and home-shooled since kindergarten.

From the minute this precious boy-gift arrived, it was obvious that he was "different". He is the most emotional (crying easily) of all my four children, he is very smart and sometimes way ahead of me logically. By the time I arrive at the right conclusion, he's already been there and had a nap! He sees the world through a different lense then the rest of our family.

He loves to cook, crochet, sew, fix his sister's hair, play with stuffed animals, and real ones...of all kinds. He is VERY affectionate, and sometimes I have to tell him to keep his hands in his own space when he is with his friends.
But on the flip side...he is ALL boy! He loves to fish, camp, hike, tie knots, leather-working, builds Lego superheros, etc.

We have NEVER made him feel "girlie" for his artistic flair. We act like it's just a normal part of how God created him....but I can't lie. I'm nervous.
I've seen many young men, with these kind of early behaviors, confess their homosexual interests years later.

Advice is MUCH needed.
Thank you,
J6
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[SPOILER='My adult daughter bought some condoms!!!']
Condom purchase of a 18 year old daughter

I just found a receipt in my 18 almost 19 year old daughter's room for the purchase of a pack of condom. She has a boyfriend and they always stay at his parents' house till 1:00 am. What should I do?

Re: Condom purchase of a 18 year old daughter
Thanks so much for your prayer. It makes me almost cry when I heard someone who doesn't even know me or my daughter starting to pray for them. The whole thing is so sad that we try to bring out kids up as Christians, take them to church and do the youth groups and awana programs, and they ended up like this, even worse than a lot of kids brought up in a non-christian environment.

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[SPOILER='Oh fuck my 17 year old is not a christian']
17 yr old son - "I'm not a Christian"

Dear community... I am writing this post with a heavy, broken heart and spirit. In the last month or two my wife and I have had heated discussions with our son about expectations, decisions and consequences. Our son will be a senior in High School and he has stated in no uncertain terms that he is not a Christian and has announced this to his friends both at school and church that he is not a Chritian. He grew up a Christian (accepted Christ at around 8 years old), has been baptised and has been traditionally very involved in the youth group. He is freaquently angry and agitated (mostly because we are standing our ground). He is now demanding that he should not be forced to attend Sunday morning youth or church service. Our position is... as for me and my household... we serve the Lord... and Church is a natural extension of this policy. I have explained to our son that we take our responsibilities as parents very, very seriously and we have always exposed him to church because we belive that is the most important function we perform as parents... we have tried to explain to our son that we love him no matter what and that we would be compromising our beliefs to allow him to simply sit church out.

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[SPOILER='Should my daughter listen to Lady Gaga???']
Should I let my thirteen-year-old daughter listen to Lady Gaga?

Hi fellow parents,

My name is Patrick and together with my wife, Cynthia (also on this forum), I try to give my children a Christian upbringing. We all go to church on Sundays and all three children are active in Sunday school and other church events. This summer they have been to camps and I feel that we have succeeded in doing everything the right way.

Unfortunately, an issue has come up that has been a point of discussion here lately. Our thirteen-year-old daughter recently brought home a Lady Gaga CD. When that artist held a performance in our city, we did not let her go, more so because we felt she was too young to go to a concert with her friends and less because it was that artist in particular (until recently, we were not even aware of Gaga at all!). But after reading up, I'm not so sure that I should let her listen to that music. The lyrics are (at least to me) disturbing and I feel that her values leaves a bit to be desired, from her outfits to the whole LGBT-views. We have thus taken the CD away from her until we have decided what is best.

On the other hand, I want to let my daughter decide many things for herself; I want her to be independent, yet in a conservative Christian setting.

Should I let my thirteen-year-old daughter listen to her Lady Gaga CD, what should I tell her, and how can I communicate to her how I feel about the artist? What would you have done? Any and all advice is very much appreciated. Thank you so much.

Best wishes,

Patrick

Re: Should I let my thirteen-year-old daughter listen to Lady Gaga?
If it were my child, I would say no.
Lady Gaga's style in my opinion isn't too godly, her messages aren't good for young minds.
satan is trying in any way he can to grab our children, he grabs them threw music, etc.
As a young person myself, 23 in a half to be exact, to this day I was glad that my parents didn't allow me to listen to secular music, now, I don't listen to it, and neither does my child.

Re: Should I let my thirteen-year-old daughter listen to Lady Gaga?

This is a fight, spiritual warfare! The enemy is trying to attack our families, homes, marriages, and children. Stand strong!

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**Grogoth** · 2012-03-30

You know what I like? When people whine and complain about being victimised based on their sex and religion, and then turn around and victimise others based on their sex and religion.

I hope you get hatecrimed irl.

**Raketefrau** · 2012-03-30

Originally Posted by J6

My son is 11 years old, left--handed, the 3rd (middle child) of 4 children, and home-shooled since kindergarten.

From the minute this precious boy-gift arrived, it was obvious that he was "different". He is the most emotional (crying easily) of all my four children, he is very smart and sometimes way ahead of me logically. By the time I arrive at the right conclusion, he's already been there and had a nap! He sees the world through a different lense then the rest of our family.

He loves to cook, crochet, sew, fix his sister's hair, play with stuffed animals, and real ones...of all kinds. He is VERY affectionate, and sometimes I have to tell him to keep his hands in his own space when he is with his friends.
But on the flip side...he is ALL boy! He loves to fish, camp, hike, tie knots, leather-working, builds Lego superheros, etc.

We have NEVER made him feel "girlie" for his artistic flair. We act like it's just a normal part of how God created him....but I can't lie. I'm nervous.
I've seen many young men, with these kind of early behaviors, confess their homosexual interests years later.

Advice is MUCH needed.
Thank you,
J6

Advice: Shut the fuck up and love your kid. You got a smart one. You're fucking lucky.

**Vinata** · 2012-03-30

Just an FYI in case you didn't know, but people on the Focus on the Family forums believe there is a literal war going on all around us between angels and demons, and we just aren't capable of observing it.

**Stronke** · 2012-03-30

There be retards on [s]the internet[/s] our planet.

**Securitas** · 2012-03-30

[SPOILER='Another Gaga Response']

Hi,

I guess I should be happy that my daughter still has not reached her scream-metal-phase. What my concerns are, is that to be a good parent today means very different things than being a parent when I grew up. While I consider myself to be conservative, I realize the need to change with society. On the other hand, I want to shield her from the things I find unfamiliar and inappropriate.
Yes, if I continue my approach to limit her Gaga-fever at home, she will still be able to listen to it at her friends' homes. Her school has a computer lab, which means that she will have access to the musical pornography of 'born this way' and many other things. I want her to stay with us. Of course she needs to be prepared for the world 'out there' and so on, but I feel that she is still too young to be exposed to a menace such as that artist.

P.S. Lol I have never listened to Lady GaGa though I've heard her name all over the place. I looked up a couple of her/his lyrics yesterday after reading your post and found them to be at best negative fluff and at worst … destructive. However. I looked up the lyrics to the song you mentioned “Born this way” AFTER writing my response to you. And then I pulled up the video on youtube.
Now. Haha. Um. I have to tell you that this is my second draft of my response to that … mmm, video. You might be able to imagine what my first response included :-D I'm sure something similar to your jaw-dropping first impression lol. Something along the lines of OH MY! Oh-ho-ho nooew. Lol Mmm-mm nopers. At 13? What 13 year old would have the capacity to discern and make sense of that mess? They don't have enough life experience to even know what they are looking at much less frame it in proper context. This kind of music isn't healthy for grow-ups much less children. It is just UNbelievable that this is main stream American music.But guess who wants control of your children? And truly, he seems to be gearing up.The message and content is wholly demonic - from the first sentence she speaks. The images elicit in my own spirit (43 years on this earth – 30 longer than your daughter) a sickening understanding that I am looking at demons at play and working through a lost soul. My more mature spirit rails against this influence … but I fear if I were 13 in this day and age my spirit's response might simply be “What? Gaw! You're so narrow minded!” What that video attempts to do is redefine God and re-write creation to justify preversities. You hear the serpent's seducing argument. “Ye shall not SURELY die.”
Let me just say … that is just one more reason I am happy I pulled my son from public school in the 5^th grade and why my daughter will not set foot in one. The influences there are … as you said, not the same as when we were growing up. Consider if this were the atmosphere at your job. How long would you stay? How long could you bear staying? THIS is what our kids are up against? It is even worse than when I pulled my son out in 05. My heart breaks for Lady GaGa. Truly. She'll be in my prayers because she needs to be. But those lyrics, that video … mmm, I can ONLY see them as demonic. Born this way? A lie straight from hell. This didn't just happen to her, and she surely wasn't born that way, it came about by design through poor influence which resulted in poor choices. And those choices could cost her dearly. It could cost her eternity. Let me say again … THANK YOU Lord for the blessing of your boundaries.

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**Pop Bear** · 2012-03-30

Holy fuck!! And I thought that I'd problems while growing up, at least I didn't have to put up with this Nazi death camp commandant crap for parents. It's so fucked up it's not even funny, they're members of a religion thats supposed to be tolerant of others, yet they have no tolerance for anyone or anything that dosen't fit with their view on the world, and the worst part is that you just know that this brainwashing will result in their children being the exact same as them when they have children of their own. One big circle, Sigh....

**Night** · 2012-03-30

People from stupid places say stupid things. Welcome to...actually I'm not sure I can count back that far, Securitas.

**poaw** · 2012-03-30

I came expecting something horrible. But none of this is that bad. Just for comparison this is shitty parenting:

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-04-30/w...en?_s=PM:WORLD
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-range.html

When people call you names, threads like this are way.

**Securitas** · 2012-03-31

[SPOILER='My 16 year old son is gay my heart is broken']
My 16 year old son told me he is gay. What do I do now?

Two days ago, my 16 year old son told me he is gay. I am shocked and grief-stricken. Although I responded that I loved him unconditionally, he knows where I and my husband (who doesn't know yet) stand on the issue of homosexuality. He said he hoped that God could forgive him. I am at a total loss about how to deal with this. My son and I have always had a close, loving relationship. I feel as though I'm looking at a different person now. Everything I imagined about his life and future is shattered. I've talked to him about how he feels about his sexuality -- is he willing to allow the Lord to work in his life to bring about change? He doesn't think it's possible; he has had these feelings since middle school. He is third of four children and we have a loving, Christian home. Can anyone offer advice?

Re: My 16 year old son told me he is gay. What do I do now?
First of all I'm really sorry you're going through this. I've worked with juveniles in a secular setting, many of whom told me they were gay. I was intrigued to find out what these kids thought being gay meant. One instructional video clip the kids watched for academic education raised the question how do you know you're gay? The answer in this video clip was try having sex w/ both males and females and see which you like better. Obviously, horrible advice.

Biblically its fine for a guy not to be interested in girls; that just means he may be called to celibacy and like the apostle Paul said that frees the person up to do more of God's work without worrying about a family. I have a 23 year old female friend who has never dated, never had a crush on a guy, and really isn't interested in the whole marriage equation. Fortunately she has had enough proper instruction to know that this doesn't mean she's gay; it just means she might never want to get married.

Re: My 16 year old son told me he is gay. What do I do now?
Dear merrymom,

Like your son, I am homosexual and Christian. However, I believe that the Bible is clear that sex outside of life long marriage between a man and a woman is absolutely wrong. For this reason I have chosen to remain celibate unless or until God sees fit to help me feel love for a woman.

Re: My 16 year old son told me he is gay. What do I do now?
Dear Andrew,
I commend you for taking the brave stance of being celibate and choosing to honor God rather than your own desires! You will reap blessings for sowing obedience!

Re: My 16 year old son told me he is gay. What do I do now?
We are going through the exact same thing. After disconvering something on his ipod we asked him and he said he was. I can't stop crying. We are going to a Christian Counselor this afternoon but we are completely heartbroken. He said he has known for a while and was going to wait to tell us when he went to college. He is very popular at school and a well respected athlete. He said he has to believe that if he truly believes in God and this is how he made him, it is not a bad thing. We had parental controls on the computer but did not think about the ipod and the stuff we found was horrific. I will order some of the books mentioned but any other words of wisdom would be awesome.

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**Murr** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by Vinata

Just an FYI in case you didn't know, but people on the Focus on the Family forums believe there is a literal war going on all around us between angels and demons, and we just aren't capable of observing it.

fucking hell how interesting life can be if you are retarded.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by Murr

fucking hell how interesting life can be if you are retarded.

I've never met a depressed retard.

**Securitas** · 2012-04-01

[SPOILER='In which a 3 year old is a little too observant']
My 3yr old daughter takes notice of people kissing, and unlike my 5yr old at her age, she is intrigued with provocative poster ads.

I realize children are curious and aware, some more than others, but unless I keep them in a bubble, I can't avoid poster ads or public display of affection for that matter. So, when is the appropriate age to discuss the topic of sex with a three year old and and a five year old (girl), and what is the best way to teach them that the visuals they come across are a stark contrast to God's word? I'm concerned for my 3yr old since she's more strong willed of the two and has a tendency to go contrary to what I say at times. Any words of wisdom and advise is appreciated.

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[SPOILER='CHRISTIAN TEEN SLEEPOVERS']
Christian teen sleepovers

Hi;

My sixteen year old christian son, wants to sleep over at his sixteen year old non christian girlfriends house.

She has slept here, and I am somewhat comfortable with that, I can monitor it. He wants to now go to his girlfriends house. He tells me that her mom will be there and that I don't trust him enough.

I want to trust him. Some of my insecurities are with my own past. I was pregnant at 15, had a baby at 16. I do not want this to happen to my son. I am now a christain and I know the right way to live. I know the proper values and morals. My husband and i have taught this to our son. He is a good boy (young man). He has been trained well, he knows of my past, he knows about premarital sex. He has all the head knowledge. I am scared and I don'[t want this hurt for him. I want to protect him for any of this - but I can't be there wherever he goes. I can keep him at home, but that proves nothing to him. he wants me to trust him, and at times I think I'm being too paranoid (which I tend to be a lot of times).

I want to give him this, but I can't get past the fear. Any ideas? suggestions?

Re: Christian teen sleepovers
I do not think it is a good idea for your son to sleepover at his grilfriends house. Can not they send enought time together without doing this? However, I have another question, if she is a non christian should he be dating her? It is ok to have non christian friends, but dating can lead to marriage and a christian is NOT to marry a non christian.

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**somedude76** · 2012-04-01

:yawn:

**Lysander** · 2012-04-01

If you don't think this is crazy it's only because you're looking through the same warped lens they are.

**somedude76** · 2012-04-01

No, not really. It's just not outrageous, at all.

Being forced to marry the man who raped you, to save your family's honor, now that is outrageous.

**Lysander** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by somedude76

No, not really. It's just not outrageous, at all.

Being forced to marry the man who raped you, to save your family's honor, now that is outrageous.

Proving that something more extreme exists doesn't negate the fact that members Focus on the Family are delusional nuts. Your argument is the equivalent of "Mel Gibson isn't crazy because Osama Bin Laden was really crazy!".

**Grim** · 2012-04-01

They just have some old fashioned groupthink. Also, everyone likes to think they have an enemy to fight, so that what they do is important. These people have everyone else to fight for being godless, freedom loving heathens, and it makes them feel good.

**somedude76** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by Lysander

Proving that something more extreme exists doesn't negate the fact that members Focus on the Family are delusional nuts. Your argument is the equivalent of "Mel Gibson isn't crazy because Osama Bin Laden was really crazy!".

I never said they weren't crazy or nutty, I just inferred that it was tame and boring. You're putting words in my mouth now.

**somedude76** · 2012-04-01

Also, to whomever neg-rep'd me about brainwashing....religion isn't brainwashing. If you think so, you are a secular fascist. Personally I am agnostic but I'm not going to correlate spirituality and the belief in a higher power with coercion. To say it's brainwashing makes it sound like a crime. Ridiculous.

**Lysander** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by somedude76

Also, to whomever neg-rep'd me about brainwashing....religion isn't brainwashing. If you think so, you are a secular fascist. Personally I am agnostic but I'm not going to correlate spirituality and the belief in a higher power with coercion. To say it's brainwashing makes it sound like a crime. Ridiculous.

Firstly, I agree with you that not all religion is brainwashing. Fundamentalist Christianity and radical Islam on the other hand do indeed make use of methods of brainwashing, or thought reform to be more precise.

Robert Jay Lifton used these points when analyzing thought reform tactics under totalitarian rule in China:

Milieu Control – The control of information and communication.
Mystical Manipulation – The manipulation of experiences that appear spontaneous but in fact were planned and orchestrated.
Demand for Purity – The world is viewed as black and white and the members are constantly exhorted to conform to the ideology of the group and strive for perfection.
Confession – Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group.
Sacred Science – The group's doctrine or ideology is considered to be the ultimate Truth, beyond all questioning or dispute.
Loading the Language – The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand.
Doctrine over person – The member's personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group.
Dispensing of existence – The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not.

I've personally seen every one of these points used and espoused freely in sects of Fundamentalist Christianity. The last bullet is questionable, but considering many fundamentalist sects use shunning/isolation tactics against members who refuse to fall in line I don't think it's unreasonable to apply it to them. They control members ability to exist within the framework of the alternate social reality they have created. In some cases this power extends to the ability to separate persons from their own families.

Just because all religion doesn't use these methods doesn't imply that no religions use them. There are sects out there who indoctrinate and coerce to the point that, while not being strictly criminal, they are causing great personal harm to their children.

**jimmychrist** · 2012-04-01

Like your son, I am homosexual and Christian. However, I believe that the Bible is clear that sex outside of life long marriage between a man and a woman is absolutely wrong. For this reason I have chosen to remain celibate unless or until God sees fit to help me feel love for a woman.

I get really sad when I read stuff like this, I can't even make fun of the poor guy. Dude, change your life before you do a Gomer Pyle. If god made you gay that's his problem, you just go ahead and suck some cock. It's your life to live.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by jimmychrist

Dude, change your life before you do a Gomer Pyle. If god made you gay that's his problem, you just go ahead and suck some cock. It's your life to live.

Regardless of what he chooses to do, he's in a world of shit.

**Pop Bear** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by somedude76

religion isn't brainwashing..

What would you call it then? I was born into a Catholic family myself, christened at 2 weeks old, first holy cumminion at 7yrs, confirmation at 12yrs, mass every Sunday for over half my life, and fuckin religion classes 5 days a week while I was in school etc... get um while they're young!

**StevieTopSiders** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by Pop Bear

What would you call it then? I was born into a Catholic family myself, christened at 2 weeks old, first holy cumminion at 7yrs, confirmation at 12yrs, mass every Sunday for over half my life, and fuckin religion classes 5 days a week while I was in school etc... get um while they're young!

Same with me; I don't feel brainwashed. vOv

**Pop Bear** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by StevieTopSiders

Same with me; I don't feel brainwashed. vOv

just retarded?

**Pop Bear** · 2012-04-01

i troll bro

**jimmychrist** · 2012-04-01

Originally Posted by somedude76

Also, to whomever neg-rep'd me about brainwashing....religion isn't brainwashing. If you think so, you are a secular fascist. Personally I am agnostic but I'm not going to correlate spirituality and the belief in a higher power with coercion. To say it's brainwashing makes it sound like a crime. Ridiculous.

This may or may not be apocryphal but it's a good and relevant story either way.

When psychiatrists and psychologists first compiled the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders back in the 50's they realized that disorders such as schizophrenia and symptoms such as auditory and visual hallucinations would mean that devout believers would be very good candidates for a stay in a calm and quiet place with nice and understanding people to talk them through the day. There really is very little difference between someone having conversations with a omnipotent and benevolent creator and someone receiving beyond-the-grave communiques from Elvis Presley.

So what they did, after debating it for a couple of decades, was add a section explaining that if people around you shared your "delusions," as it were, you're probably fine to go ahead with your life. In other words, if the Elvis dude can get a cultural and institutionalized thing going, he'll be cured. A hindu swami stepping off the plane in Utah is suddenly nuts, but as soon as he arrives back in India he's cured!

**Proc D** · 2012-04-02

Originally Posted by J6

He loves to cook, crochet, sew, fix his sister's hair...

Need sleep... Thought it read "He loves the cock..."

**Rer** · 2012-04-02

Reading stuff like this just makes me sad.

I respect everyone's right to their own opinion and set of beliefs...

But that doesn't mean I won't think they're archaic and bat-shit crazy.

**xutech** · 2012-04-02

I feel the same way.

**Chipmunk McPaul** · 2012-04-03

Christian version of Yahoo Questions.

and i thought i'd be bored at work all day.

spanking - hand or spoon?

What's suprising me though is that a good portion of the posts are about children not being completly obidient and parents being unable to deal with them correctly then actual asking what god would do. Bit like a parental discussion with a bit of christian crazy.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-04-03

I wouldn't be surprised if half of the posters are actually some of our world's most brilliant trolls dedicated to ensuring that Christianity dies in a fire.

**Chipmunk McPaul** · 2012-04-03

13 & 16 year old boys collecting My little Pony?

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-04-03

My husband was a what my kids referred to as a "hypocritical Christian" until just 2 1/2 years ago when the Lord grabbed ahold of him through cancer.

You heard it, people. Praise the Lord or you get cancerfied.

**Grogoth** · 2012-04-03

Man, there is a house around the corner from me - there is a car out the front painted in some god awful colour with retarded christian sign writing on it and being healed by JESUS, with the numberplate HEALED.

I used to always laugh, until I heard the story;

The woman that owned it had cancer or some kind, wasn't doing well and then FOUND THE POWER OF CHRIST and LO, THE CANCER WAS SMOTE. She then just fell hook line and sinker for this stupid shit, went out and bought the car, got it all done up and went around preaching about the miracle of JAYZUZ. 18 months later or so, the inevitable remission, BUT NOT, I NEED NOT CHEMO OR ANY OTHER THERAPY, I HAVE THE LORD AND HIS AWESOMENESS ON MY SIDE.

Poor, stupid, bitch died - left behind 2 young kids (like under 10)

Made me so fucking mad I wish she was alive so I could punch her in her stupid fucking face

**Agathor** · 2012-04-03

Originally Posted by Chipmunk McPaul

13 & 16 year old boys collecting My little Pony?

Godisawesome
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Re: 13 & 16 year old boys collecting My little Pony?
I have the same problem with a 15 year old boy. There is something going on with this and I would like Focus on the Family to check this out. My Little Pony seems innocent, but there are a group of 30 year old men who are getting into this and it is what they are doing to My Little Pony that makes it bad. The 30 year old men are called Bronies, for Bro and Ponies put together. There are cartoons being made by Bronies that are not for teens. Also there is a suggestion that the brands on the ponies when they find their purpose in life, could promote tatooing? Focus on the Family can you help us with this? Everything on the websites are Pink and we have young men that we are helping to develop into Godly young men. There is a group of 5 teens that my son met and they are all Christians, and they are helping to get a party at a bowling alley for Bronies to happen. My son ordered a purple and pink shirt with a pony on it along with another shirt with the blue pony on it. We need to find out the origins of this craze and if it is harmful. There is an article you can look at called My Little Pony Corrals Unlikely Fanboys Known as ‘Bronies.
Hopefully you can help us.
Thanks.

Fucking Bronies with their brohoof and what not.

**Grim** · 2012-04-03

I feel like making an account to see if I can be more narrowminded and extremist in my posting than those people who bomb abortion clinics and rape lesbians to make them straight.

**Don Peyote** · 2012-04-03

Originally Posted by Agathor

Fucking Bronies with their brohoof and what not.

To be fair, having a Pony themed bowling party is creepy as shit

**Securitas** · 2012-04-04

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Is there any Biblical advice for dealing with a child who has Aspergers

My 8 year old daughter has been struggling with Aspergers Syndrome for many years now and she is enrolled in a Chistian private school. Quite recently she has started with the conception that we hate her and don't love her dispite showing her affection and understanding at every turn. Her "meltdowns" (both minor and major) over incidents that are part of daily life have not been improving with medication, counseling, and prayer.

I just want to know if anyone knows of any Biblical advice for dealing with a child who has Aspergers

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Found inappropriate content on friend's sons laptops

A friend of mine whom I have known for several years has brought me his computers for repair on a few occassions. This past weekend, he brought me two laptops that belong to his sons. The sons are 16 and 17 years old. He told me that the antivirus software was out of date on them, one of them had inappropriate pop-ups coming up, and the other would not connect to the internet.

I am always a bit leery of these situations because I know how most teen boys get viruses and other malware on their computers. My friend is a strong Christian and he told me he really wanted me to do the work and he also told me that he had warned his sons that if they had been doing anything they should not, I would find it as I was working on the systems.

As it turns out, he was right. I found proof that both sons had been accessing pornographic material on the Internet. What's more, the material I found on one of the systems was homosexual (male) in nature. Now I am really troubled because I not only have to tell my friend that his sons have been using porn, but that one of them is at least curious about homosexuality. I can't chalk it up to a one time curiousity because the file access dates range back 2 years.

I know I need to tell him, but I really don't know how to break it to him.

I could really use some insights and prayers.

Thanks,
Steve

Re: Found inappropriate content on friend's sons laptops
Steve,
My heart aches for you and your situation. I don't really have any Godly advice but I do want to let you know that I will pray for you and your friends family. May God bless you greatly for being willing to do the hard (right) thing. I will pray that the Lord will give you the words to tell your friend about his children and then comfort and encourage him. I will also pray that the Lord will give him insight and courage as he addresses his boys. God bless you Steve.

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Can't believe my 13 yr. old son would text this.

I need some support and advice in what to do about my son who is 13 just started a new school and just began junior high. I recieved a phone call from a young girls mother who said she read a text form my son that said " Would you ever give me a BJ?" or Have you ever?" something like that. She had left a message with me and before I returned her call I asked my son if he would know why she would be calling me and if there was anything he needed to tell me. He lied to me several times begin to tell me that his friend might have sent something inappropreiate. Then after I continued to ask more questions because I knew something didn't seem right. He told me his friend did it on his phone. Then after I searched some more he finally told me he was dared and he asked her and then shortly after deleted it. We have always had strict phone rules. (not allowed to text after 9), (must leave his phone downstairs by ours after 9pm) ect. We try to check his messaging and he is aware of this, and knows that it is to hold him accountable. This is a girl from another school they never get to see each other but maybe at church. I am so disappointed that he lied to me (I tend to take things personal, he is my first born) but then also because of what he did makes me so embarrased. We have raised him to love and obey God, serve as Christ, be an example. ect. I am on staff full-time at our church and serve as co-worship leader and he has been raised around good christian friends and family most of his life. He just started a new school this year, its a Christian private school and just began junior high. So I know he is going through the teen years and maybe having a hard time finding his place and knowing who he is. We are not used to this kind of behavior with him. We have taken away his phone, and I made him apologize to the mother and the young girl. We haven't had any problems with him in the past for lying or having sexual communication in anyway. We have been very open with him about sex in the last year, talking to him about it, and he has always been open to talk as well. He is a great kid and he seemed to be disappointed in himself for doing such a thing and has appologized for it. I just want to make sure my husband and I are taking the right steps to guide him and help build character as he grows into a respectable young man of God. Can you tell I am a bit shakened about all of this. I hope this makes some since and could just use some advice as to what is the right decisions to make regarding all this.

Re: Can't believe my 13 yr. old son would text this.
Hey lee05,

You sound like very caring, involved parents who have tried very hard to provide good guidance to your son. It sounds like he used extremely poor judgement in this situation...go figure...a 13 year old boy using poor judgement! Kids will always surprise us....that jerk, Satan, seems to be even more diligent these days prowling! Don't get all hung up on the poor judgement, it happens. Do get hung up on the dishonesty. Trust is such a huge base on which much freedom is given. At this point in his life, I would definitely be concerned that, only after he was backed into a corner, with no way, out did he come clean. You have clearly been trying to give him solid boundries and providing him with the tools he needs to make wise choices. This is where the parenting gets scarey.....what will he choose to do with the tools he has. Stop beating yourself up! Many, many of us understand your pain! Sort out with him about how he proposes that you will build up trust with him again. Refuse to feel guilty when he is unable to take part in something because of the trust that's been lost. More than anything, recognize that this is your son's story, which our amazing God is writing and this isn't the final chapter. Depending on where your son chooses to go from here, this could be one of the cheapest, most incredible learning experiences he'll ever have...a turning point, when maybe he was about to turn the wrong way and start heading down a crazy awful path. Everything was laid bare early on...thank God. This is truly a harsh reminder of the magnitude of the unseen battle that is going on! Pray for your kids CONSTANTLY!! Get up in the night and lay hands on them and cry out to God! Recognize that Satan has seen the likes of your son before and knows his potential in Christ. He will stop at nothing to try and destroy what God can do through his life. Take heart, dear lee05, I'll pray for you right now that the incredible God we serve will continue to give you wisdom and insight to handle this situation well!!

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**Raketefrau** · 2012-04-04

Pray for your kids CONSTANTLY!!

Lord, please let my son get a blowjob from that cute girl at church.

**Internet Spaceships** · 2012-04-04

This thread delivers. Time to contribute:

I've made it known in a few posts that I came from a very conservative Christian family and only in the last year left my former faith. One of the most 'traumatic' events of that time frame was when I was "addicted to pornography" between 8th and 9th grade. Prior to that point the closest to porn I'd ever gotten was JC Penny underwear catalogs (which were amazing by the way, I'll have to tell another story later about how it distorted my understanding about what the vagina looks like, but I digress).

Anyways, the discovery of porn was fantastic. I had my own computer at that point and played video games daily, so it already wasn't strange in my family's eyes for me to spend hours on end in my room with the door closed on the computer. Now, you may think I got busted looking at porn by being too eager and not careful enough. Maybe I forgot to clear the browser history, or I accidentally left a popup open, or maybe even my mom walked on me spanking it. If you guessed any of those things you were incorrect; what gave me away was a Yahoo email account.

Email was becoming a commodity with my friends at that point in time, and was essential for creating an AIM account. I created an account without my parents permission or foreknowledge, which was a big no-no (the internet to my parents at that point in time was a place to play multiplayer games and get raped by pedos). When they found I was using email they immediately shit a brick. "What else could our son be doing online that we don't know about," etc. After getting grilled for an hour by both of my parentals for doing such a "dangerous, wreckless thing," the question was then posed to me "is there anything else online you do that we don't know about?"

At that point in my life I had a really hard time avoiding/lying when I was directly asked a question and was completely guilty. Realizing I couldn't lie to my parents (Jesus was watching, btw) I broke down in tears and just kept repeating "yes but I can't tell you, it's so bad, just so bad". I mean, how could I tell my sweet, naive parents about the horrors of goatse, the nausea inducing power of tubgirl, all the hetero/homo porn I had seen, bestiality, faux rape scenes, etc? My words were something to the effect, "I....I can't tell you everything, but I've been addicted to porn for nearly 1.5 years now." Both my mother and father bursted into treats, so now all 3 of us were crying alone in the study. We then had a 'revival prayer' of some sort that acknowledged we're "broken and sinful people" and require god's forgiveness and for him to "come into my life to be a light once again".

Looking back on it now it's absolutely mind-boggling how serious the circumstance was, how shamefully naive my parents are, and the thoughts/emotions I had to deal with in wrestling with natural desires vs following my religious beliefs. I left that situation feeling like shit and dealt with chronic low self-esteem for years, realizing how 'dirty I was in the eyes of god'. lolreligion.

Slightly related, amphetamine salts (adderal) is a fantastic drug as I'm in the process of discovering.

**jimmychrist** · 2012-04-04

Making your teenage kid feel ashamed about their sexuality is child abuse.

**Raketefrau** · 2012-04-04

Originally Posted by Internet Spaceships

"yes but I can't tell you, it's so bad, just so bad". I mean, how could I tell my sweet, naive parents about the horrors of goatse, the nausea inducing power of tubgirl, all the hetero/homo porn I had seen, bestiality, faux rape scenes, etc? My words were something to the effect, "I....I can't tell you everything, but I've been addicted to porn for nearly 1.5 years now."

He forgot about 2 girls one chalice.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-04-04

I was raised Catholic too, never ran into any trouble because of it. I do remember having the 'I don't believe in God anymore' conversation with my mom when I was in high school, and I remember her immediate and most pressing concern was 'But what if you meet a nice Catholic girl?'

Yes, my eternal salvation is something to consider, but think of all those nice Catholic girls!

**Securitas** · 2012-04-04

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9 Year Old Son & Erection

My son has told me that his penis sometimes gets hard when he thinks or reads about something transforming into something else. For instance, a dinosaur turning into a person, or a robot turning into a different form. Is this something I need to worry about, should I press him for more information, or should I just continue to tell him that his penis hardening is normal, but that it should be reserved for his wife...?
CONFUSED...
FYI, my husband and I just started reading the Before I Was Born book to him tonight in hopes of expanding his body knowledge and giving him a basis of sex before he hears it all at school, distorted.
Thanks, any help or advice is appreciated.

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**Vinata** · 2012-04-04

Oh right another FotF forum tidbit - They honestly believe teenagers are incapable of not having sex, and that they can do it at any time - even at your house while you're home, if you turn your back for so much as a minute. Usually this warning is followed up by "I know because I did this when I was a teenager" and you find out the woman got pregnant at 15 or so because birth control is sinful.

**Agathor** · 2012-04-05

Never said a prayer in my life, never seen my parents do it ether. Never gone to church unless its a funeral or wedding.

My grandma had a big bible with lovely pictures that we used to look at together, cant say I remember us praying though.