WAKE THE FUCK UP.Originally Posted by Grath
http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/features/
50-100 guys from PL will do nothing to change power balance and 50 titans will be useful only under specific circumstances.
We are not getting into CFC vs RDN fight cause we will have 0 effect on things.
I'd say the one you wore at fanfest is close enough.
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You just need the Mankini.
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This isn't a hypothetical for me. I'm not doing it "long" before people's TZ. Like a half-hour tops before the dudes either wake up or get off work to find that I've once again reffed some of their stuff. This is under current mechanics, which have high HP to deter people from doing this. If you lower the HP, I'm just going to downgrade from a revelation to 3 purifiers, which makes alarm-clocking to catch me red-handed not really worth it.
I don't. Ultimately it's a game about making playing the game as unpleasant as possible for the other side, so they stop logging in and you go to post wildly about slopes, unopposed sov grabs and ~wulfpax.Meh, I have faith in a Great Rebalancing. Granted I don't expect other to.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Fuck it, I'm apping to ccp just to prove that it can be done.
Gauntlet thrown.
I am constantly stupefied at the amount of people who think blobbing is easy and fixes anything yet fail miserably when they try to do it
"all you need to do is convince literally thousands of people to play EVE Online, a bad game, and do boring things in this game, this is so easy and i could do it but i'd rather get sodomized by the exact same people for the fourth time in a decade"
So wait. The last three pages have been about not how the CFC sucks, or is going to lose, but they've won so much that they're doomed?
God damn I'll take it. Personally I always found in TEST that we have more than enough always going on during peace time to keep me entertained. My guess is that once the big war is over, we'll all split up back to our home regions and find stuff to do. And if somebody needs help, we'll deploy where they need it.
Additionally, the CFC is getting these massive numbers because the entire coalition is deployed to one solar system. When everyone heads back to their home regions there are tons of areas to roam into and random stuff for people to do in small groups. Everyone is in one place, so everyone goes to do the same thing; thus the current blobbing on anything within range. 70% of the people currently doing shit in tenal/venal won't be there in a month or so. I mean, you can expect blobbing for strat ops. I don't care who you are, you bring everything you can muscle to strat ops.
I sent in my resume looking for a summer internship, and they never got back to me.
Coming from a guy who's alliance tried to keep alive a dozen regions spanning botting empire it is again a bit rich
What happened to the Grath "We are the puppetmasters" Telkin? The one who said you wouldn't go North because at the time CFC vs Raidencrew was even and your alliance was all about promoting warfare in EVE? You're the one full of shit Grath. You and your merry band of warriors could have gone North. But that would have meant climbing your asses into something more risky than TidiCats.
Keep fishing in lowsec with your Supers. It's a risky PVP style that nets you ::goodfights:: and tons of kills!
>2012 implying the alliance you're in doesn't bot.
Lost in all this bickering is the fact that CCP is taking the Kestrel and making it humongously less shitty.
It's important to keep your eyes on the bigger picture.
I can't tell if people unironically care about ship artwork redesign. I always play zoomed outLost in all this bickering is the fact that CCP is taking the Kestrel and making it humongously less shitty.
It's important to keep your eyes on the bigger picture.
Good movie.You've cast your self down with the sodomites now
I have some clarifying questions.
1. Bad guy numbers reached between 900 and 1000 during the first fights of the Tenal war, so let's not go around talking about 10 times anything unless it is the size of my dick. Furthermore, the 50+ titans and even more SCs that were fielded the next week kind of put a damper on our progress in the region. Where did all of those supers go now that it is April? We only killed 4 of them, after all...I bet if they were all still showing up that every station in Tenal wouldn't be about to go into armor cycle.
2. Do you think it is easy to assemble and lead an effective coalition of this size? Shit, WN and Raiden only managed to show up to each other's ops for about a week past when the CFC started to invade Branch. I also didn't see too many of NCdot's supercaps showing up to defend Tenal either -- surely they could get a grip of titans to throw in with Raiden? Perhaps the fact that Init shows up in more numbers than their putative allies is making them less willing to show up on each successive op? I'm just asking the questions, but I think we all know the answers here.
3. Meanwhile the CFC is running a happy and still-blue coalition of 30,000 shitbirds. I swear to you on my granddad's grave, these are some of the most awful faggots to ever play EVE. (And I should know, since many of them are my friends!) Not only that, but they are a militarily coordinated blob and their lifestyles are hampered only by the occasional light awoxing or blue-on-blue freighter incident. Is the organization, skill, and effort that went into this monstrosity an invalid way of gaining an advantage in EVE?
Basically, I maintain my conclusion from this post: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...l=1#post341757
In EVE, having 3 dudes when the other guy has 1 is part of being good. Ironic that this last came up as we were steamrolling the last abandoned region.
Anyway, if you want to argue that blobbing should be less effective in the sov war, then I agree. Dominion sucks fantastic shit in the objectives and mechanics that lead ONLY to huge fuckoff fights where the largest blob mostly wins. Dominion is the part of the game that needs the most attention right now because of how absolutely awful the sov system is.
But since one of the principal designers of Dominion is now the chairman of the CSM.............................I'm not holding my breath. OH WELL.
please don't (do) get that green borat swimsuit thing
if you do please don't (do) pictures
Or the butt.
that's why you're elite pvp
i still want my shit to look good
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The entire blob/large coalition discussion reminds me of the many arguments about the proliferation of supers(fuck I broke the seal). The Goons were constantly told they spent their money on the wrong things and opted to go ahead and pay for peacetime reimbursements, skillbook plans, etc. where as now, everyone who is not the CFC seems to have opted to stay on the small side numbers-wise and are complaining about it. In a sense they saw the need for numbers, much like you saw the need for supers.
the hilarious part is that in under a year, goons will have the biggest fuckoff super blob in all of new eden
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
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Except goons are still buying titans at a rate that might just give us a week of complete TZ dominance before they're turned into POCOs or whatever.
All these people saying the CFC killed off all their content clearly haven't heard of the intramural wargames planned for the summer.
Every rifter counts friend
Scotch you are the epitome of contentless
I love you
But i thought you specialize in MANTICORE
(4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod
(11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test
Despising alliances with minimum skill point requirements, hatred of kill/death ratios, contempt for people who value "skill" at manipulating a scrappy user interface, and don't get me started on alliances who vaccuum up the guys who could be out there leading their own groups creating game content for tens of thousands of eve players.
Edit: also, people who play zoomed out ... or with sound off ... or both.
All you need to take and hold space is to keep recruiting thousands of shitbirds, this is why all of nullsec has been conquered by IT Alliance
I am an artist.
I for once cant wait to paint pink erected cocks on my nyx.......
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
I really fucking doubt anyone thinks about this when joining anyone, cut the bullshit guy.
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No, I think you'd be very surprised
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
Yeah, some people do.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Lots of people do and its been like that for years.
Goonswarm is the only place where noone ever gave a fuck whether I can fly some ship or not, or whether I have X skill points, or whether I can tell armor HAC fitting when violently woken up at 4 in the morning. Was never "forced" to attend some op, never threatened if there was an op and I was shooting rats or ganking in hi-sec, noone ever asked me about my K/D ratio or cared about it, blah, blah, blah.
I could probably write for an hour, but bottom line is - you are wrong.
I did. That mindset made me a solo ninja salvager, and that mindset landed me on Dreddit when it was formed.
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"Every rifter counts friend" - VR
Do you really think this is something unique to goonswarm?
he wasn't saying that at all. test alliance is similar, as are few other alliances in the CFC. there are also super-casual pvp corps/alliances out there but they dont have the "brand" so to speak.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Anyone else notice how the 'common knowledge' of PL is shifting now from 'DRF pets' to 'Part of the CFC'?
What a bunch of horseshit, are you fucking serious? Seriously, why would you guys claim to be all anti-elite pvp on one hand while being all elitist about everyone being soulless pubbie bottom feeders on the other, lol.
And what exactly is so bad about valuing the things you describe? You do realize that the reason small, elite pvp type alliances have those standards is precisely because they need the edge to fight against the invincible mega blob that you're part of? The reason we don't accept people who don't understand the importance of aligning out and flying the correct ships and fits isn't because we believe they're beneath us as humans, it's because we can't afford to hold people's hand or we'll just lose exactly what enables us to win fights vs numerical superiority: level 5 skills and standards for ourselves and our members.
Just think for a second that perhaps the reason those elite pvp alliances have snubbed their noses at you, as Mittens described, is precisely because you've all blued up to blob the fuck out of them.
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I know its in Russian but there are some interesting slides from fanfest on eve-ru forums
http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?showtopic=89087
one of my favorites is botting by region... notice the #2 region in 0.0, Deklein, and also Vale of the Silent, where x13 and finfleet live(d)
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12955487 goons are bad 1:1 . news at 11
I wonder why such viewpoints would be hard to find within the valiant Pandemic Legion
Goonswarm and (some) spinoffs, TEST and spinoffs, a select few small Drunk And Stoned alliances. Even shitty empire 10-man mining corps have ridiculous mando 'raids', 100% taxes during op, etc.
There were actually (I think, I wasn't around) two Goon corps before Goonfleet that failed right off the bat pretty much specifically because they tried to be all red-pen serious business.
No, I wasn't implying that it is unique to Goonswarm.
I was pointing out that Elektrea's statement was wrong.
Is this even a fun conversation?
I've got a half chub.
seems to me that protesting against elitism in a video game is just as bad as being that elitist
maybe im wrong too v0v
Delve is fucking clean as whistleI know its in Russian but there are some interesting slides from fanfest on eve-ru forums
http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?showtopic=89087
one of my favorites is botting by region... notice the #2 region in 0.0, Deklein, and also Vale of the Silent, where x13 and finfleet live(d)
Most guys I know shoot botters on sight, so thats not so surprising.
Shocking
there are a lot of alliances w/o red pen ops, stop kidding yourself that it's unique. and alarm-clocking in general is pretty dead given dominion sov. also: wasnt there some test drama about a director going around turning off ihubs because people were ratting during strat ops?
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Your not the boss of me and I don't have to listen or believe a word you say.
Always the europeans.
Look, be proud of what you did, nothing in my post says anything other than calling that guy bullshit. You are actually only doing what everybody else does, but you're doing it on a coalition scale.
His posting suggested some master secret recipe that the CFC had discovered, when it is in fact simply numbers, you have taken the formula used by 200 men and amplified it by 20.
Nothing in my posting suggests that you're drooling gibbering mass is in anyway bad or 'unfair', what it suggests is that you have kind of fucked yourself in the fun department. You've walled yourselves in with allies for 50 systems in either direction. This is not an ideal situation, regardless of your ability to organize large groups of people, you've probably gone too far and killed off your food source.
I could give 2 fucks less how many of you band together in an asshumping parade of faggotry, what i care about is how many fights there are going on around us to actually get in.
That would currently be none.
Sup!?
We're pretty newbie friendly. I just wish we had a better mentor program. Right now we just rely on our FC's to get dudes x'ing up and just experiencing the smaller roams.
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