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    ddos is a cyber crime broski

    just like cyberbullying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogoth View Post
    Well, that is where refusing to pay it on the credit card due to seller fraud would be interesting.
    "Oh Hi, Visa? Yeah a game company kicked me out of their game for cheating and now I want my money back aboobloobloo"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    "Oh Hi, Visa? Yeah a game company kicked me out of their game for cheating and now I want my money back aboobloobloo"
    This works and get CCP in a whole shitload of trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome View Post
    This works and get CCP in a whole shitload of trouble.
    I suppose it does work, and it's exactly the kind of stunt that a sad little bitch who's entitled enough to think that cheating makes him L33t would pull. I just wonder at the thought process that leads to thinking something so mind-bogglingly petty and dishonest is a correct response to being called out for cheating in a damb game.

    Luckily, these guys pretty much all paid by PLEX, so even this petty bit of spite will be denied to them. All that's left is crying that being punished makes them the victim, to the huge amusement of the rest of us. I look forward to reading the hateful, bile-filled little posts they'll make for years - on non-CCP forums.

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    On a side note I hear that CCP themselves get pretty vindictive if you dispute the CC charge against them, and they'll nuke any other accounts they can link to you as well.

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    I took a wallet hit back in 2004 not long after I first started playing.
    There was no plex system back then and I needed a freighter in a hurry.

    I have a well paid job and not a great deal of spare play time (no excuse I know) I brought some isk online 1bil. I brought the freighter, a day or two latter I logged into find my wallet was neg 900 mill.
    I got no mail, no warning or any other form of punishment from CCP but I got the message and never reapeted my foolish act.

    I did sweat for the next few weeks about getting a ban but I never heard anything from CCP and I was far too sheepish to contact them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Hey guys remember when you (mittani) hired 2 private investigators and a lawyer to figoure out what the deal with WNs ~bot empire~ and may the 1st goon ddos was all about?
    You're dumber than the average Norwegian god damn~

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    If I hadn't been so tired I would have proven you wrong with my shitty posting.
    What's with all the references to Norway lately btw. Think I've seen at least 4 the last week. When did our shitty little country invade Kugu?
    I'll do anything for rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogoth View Post
    Just FYI, most of COVEN bot in PL.
    Dont be hating on my ahac freighter,brudder.

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    This is the man banning you in eve online.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazanir View Post
    You're dumber than the average Norwegian god damn~
    I thought he was swedish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    I thought he was swedish.
    If you explain the joke it makes it less funny, just saying.

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    Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazanir View Post
    You're dumber than the average Norwegian god damn~
    Lying about it to 30k coalition makes it even more :goons2012: doesnt it?

    But hey, its the new way to get 1k duders in fleet so i guess its okay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    Hot damn CCP, way to put your foot down:

    http://community.eveonline.com/devbl...log&nbid=28581

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    We lost mittens on the CSM so the titan nerfs were reversed, so we told sreegs to ban all hostile titans instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    We lost mittens on the CSM so the titan nerfs were reversed, so we told sreegs to ban all hostile titans instead.
    ROFL

    The fucking ~metagame is out of control!

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    Sreegs was on your side the whole time :911:

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    Without having read the dev blog from end to other, theres no mention of mistakes or hastily removed isk or anything.
    So all those missing isk in PL was "purchased" isk, right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsan View Post
    Without having read the dev blog from end to other, theres no mention of mistakes or hastily removed isk or anything.
    So all those missing isk in PL was "purchased" isk, right ?
    "While there were reports of false positives related to this event, thus far every single valid "false" positive we've investigated was tagged because they had actually done something wrong, in most cases purchasing an account illegally or enabling RMT sellers via providing them with "loans". This is completely unacceptable behavior and in each instance thus far the purchased accounts were left closed and the loaned isk remained frozen."

    so if you gave some guy money and he RMT's at some point the money gets deducted from his account? or your account?

    so what happens to the guy who loans out isk if the money was already out of his hands

    this shit aint logical

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnknownPoster View Post
    Hot damn CCP, way to put your foot down:

    http://community.eveonline.com/devbl...log&nbid=28581



    I've been asked a lot of questions about how to avoid running into trouble here and there's a very clear and surefire way to do so. Don't do business with people you know to be involved in RMT. Don't buy accounts, items, PLEX or ISK illegally. THERE YOU HAVE IT! The ONLY legal seller of PLEX is CCP. Anything else can be taken from you when you are caught and the likelihood of that happening is increasing significantly. Have a fat pile of cash and want to convert it to ISK? Buy PLEX! We fully recognize that the only way to provide a level playing field for our customers is to end the problem and that's the direction we're headed.
    I'd like to add that in addition to large sums of ISK removed from RMT-related actions we're expecting to see an average of 100B ISK a day removed from botting accounts. Neither RMT nor bot-related activity have any place in New Eden any longer and the security team is willing to play chicken as long as it takes to get that message across. I'd also like to note that while I haven't spent much time talking about it the PLEX for Snitches program, it is still in full effect and a number of people who have provided us with actionable security-related information have profited quite nicely from their contributions to the greater EVE community!
    So, the tl;dr of this is:

    • We're going to take all your stuff if you cheat
    • Buy PLEX, don't be a space butt
    • We're keeping an eye on all sorts of fun places to pull numbers and graphs from and we'll provide them in a separate blog
    • We love you if you don't cheat

    On a personal note, CCP Soundwave's cosplay-fit 6pack abs have inspired me to purchase a gym membership so all of you who have expressed heartfelt concern about my physical health may now sleep easier! Until next time!
    Sreegs
    Update: Since this blog was written this afternoon we've taken out another 365 account bot/rmt ring. No estimate of assets yet.




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    Quote Originally Posted by zodt View Post
    so if you gave some guy money and he RMT's at some point the money gets deducted from his account? or your account?

    so what happens to the guy who loans out isk if the money was already out of his hands
    If you loaned money to someone who RMTs and got it back, then CCP "reversed" that last charge to your account.

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    If you guys cared so much, then you should have invested the time and energy into planting your own agents as ccp devs.

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    Looking forward to hear stories of reclaimed supers.

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    Oh god, I'm so hard right now. I just need to hear comments from Vuk and Horus.
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    oh no you dint just come at my homeboy vuk lau

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsan View Post
    So all those missing isk in PL was "purchased" isk, right ?
    ~welp~

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    It's so hard right now to figure out who's being truthful. With all this going on, and so many stories being told, differentiating fact from fiction is becoming difficult. From PL's "15 Trillion ISK" to your buddy who is down a billion for "Borrowing Money", it's hard to tell what to believe. At this point I can just look at my positive wallet and smile, thank god I'm legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnknownPoster View Post
    It's so hard right now to figure out who's being truthful. With all this going on, and so many stories being told, differentiating fact from fiction is becoming difficult. From PL's "15 Trillion ISK" to your buddy who is down a billion for "Borrowing Money", it's hard to tell what to believe. At this point I can just look at my positive wallet and smile, thank god I'm legit.
    2 legit 2 quit m8

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    inb4 CCP deletes ihubs and tcus bought with dodgy isk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    inb4 CCP deletes ihubs and tcus bought with dodgy isk
    inb4 we delete your posting rights.

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    I think CCP is going overboard with the banhammer and isk deducting on purpose, to send a "don't even deal legitimately with RMTers" message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Sreegs
    • Around 500 billion ISK in RMT transactions reversed
    I'm bad at maths... is that more or less than 15T ?

    ooops

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    More. CCP is using british billions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Hey guys remember when you (mittani) hired 2 private investigators and a lawyer to figoure out what the deal with WNs ~bot empire~ and may the 1st goon ddos was all about?
    Umm, the two 'private investigators' were digi and Solo and the lawyer was Tamir. So if by 'hired' you mean 'talked to' then okay sure. But god damned you are kinda dumb. Or there has been one helluva game of telephone going on.

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    For those not reading, this isn't just RMT.

    "Effective retro to just before Fanfest we will be removing ALL isk gained from botting when the ban takes effect."

    "I'd like to add that in addition to large sums of ISK removed from RMT-related actions we're expecting to see an average of 100B ISK a day removed from botting accounts. Neither RMT nor bot-related activity have any place in New Eden any longer and the security team is willing to play chicken as long as it takes to get that message across."

    The overlap between serious botters and RMTers is probably close to 100%. BUT, more importantly, they're not going to differentiate on the isk / parties affected. So anyone (individual or alliance) received bot-created isk is going to be taken to the own-zone by this.

    How many Titans were actually bought legitimately, from grinding out 80 bill??? Guess we'll find out. Death to all Supers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jm24 View Post
    This is the man banning you in eve online.

    I Was There

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calderus View Post
    How many Titans were actually bought legitimately, from grinding out 80 bill??? Guess we'll find out. Death to all Supers.
    I bought my titan legitimated, ground the isk myself - in about 20 minutes.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    I would post a pic of the 4 coven supercaps that went from Green to red in our manage page, alas i dont want the lenid police to purge me again. But yeah, atleast 4 of our super accs have been deleted/frozen.
    [09:31:23] tribute wont fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    This is glorious

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoyzzz View Post
    More. CCP is using british billions.
    Even Brits don't use British billions anymore

    so stoopid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    Even Brits don't use British billions anymore

    so stoopid
    Or tooth brushes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    Even Brits don't use British billions anymore

    so stoopid
    what would you say the number is in long tons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogoth View Post
    Or tooth brushes
    British teeth aren't dirty, they're just crooked

    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    what would you say the number is in long tons?
    Fuck you Opti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    I would post a pic of the 4 coven supercaps that went from Green to red in our manage page, alas i dont want the lenid police to purge me again. But yeah, atleast 4 of our super accs have been deleted/frozen.
    Any chance you could blur the names out so we at least know what types they were? Before and after is fine.

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    I use british billions...

    As a matter of fact, they are the real billions, you inch using savages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powers View Post
    Any chance you could blur the names out so we at least know what types they were? Before and after is fine.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iratus View Post
    As a matter of fact, they are the real billions, you inch using savages.
    Measuring your penis in metric doesn't make it longer m8.

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    CCP Sreegs RMT detection program has not targeted any innocent accounts, and any false positives were actually not false positives, the programs watchdog CCP Sreegs said on tuesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodt View Post
    CCP Sreegs RMT detection program has not targeted any innocent accounts, and any false positives were actually not false positives, the programs watchdog CCP Sreegs said on tuesday
    When the appeals process is completely opaque you can get away with any statement you like

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