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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    bcarr thats the nice thing about TM, its not just a single alliances propaganda machine, its a large collection of alliances contributing from different sides, and attempts are constantly made to give voices to the groups that don't have one yet. I guess finding people that can string words in an interesting way is the challenge at this point.
    What's fascinating are the people who complain about bias but refuse to write anything from their own point of view. You'd think when they have an open invitation to straighten things out they'd be all over that. But I guess whining about it is a lot easier than trying to write a coherent explanation of your own point of view.

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    Generally what they're really complaining about is things like "The facts have a strong anti-A- bias" or "You're saying things that I don't want to be true".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skabbor View Post
    What's fascinating are the people who complain about bias but refuse to write anything from their own point of view.
    That doesn't mean there's no bias, though. Not saying that there is, or that it's worse than elsewhere either, but "put up, or shut up" is not a valid argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    I guess finding people that can string words in an interesting way is the challenge at this point.
    I'm actually starting to expect that a surprisingly amount of alliance/corp leaders in eve, at least outside of CFC/HBC, are completely incapable of writing better english than what we saw in the latest round of log leaks.

    As much as I'd love for them to write up their side of the story, I feel it might take an exorbitant amount of effort to make whatever wordsalad they vomit forth into something we might want to read without performing seppuku midway through, just to stop the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Quaan View Post
    That doesn't mean there's no bias, though. Not saying that there is, or that it's worse than elsewhere either, but "put up, or shut up" is not a valid argument.
    Yeah I'm not saying there isn't, there's bound to be bias when the articles are written by people involved in the fights, if nothing else then simply because people from one side will not know every single detail about what the other side did or why. But if they managed to scrape together a few people who can write understandable English they could get their own point of view published as well, and let the readers find the middle ground. Of course the best thing would be for the reporting to be 100% free of bias from the get go, but that's just not going to happen. Heck real reporters paid with real money very rarely do that, I don't see why anyone would expect nerds playing a spaceship game to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Quaan View Post
    That doesn't mean there's no bias, though. Not saying that there is, or that it's worse than elsewhere either, but "put up, or shut up" is not a valid argument.
    There's a difference between article bias and site bias.

    Individual articles will obviously be written from the perspective of the individual who wrote them. That's not only to be expected, it's to be desired. There's certainly plenty of "perspective" in TM pieces, which the reader can and should be expected to account for.

    Site bias means that you suppress certain perspectives, or edit them to suit your own. If you have a shred of evidence for this, by which I mean "actual things that really happened", rather than just "everybody knows" bullshit, then please do lay it out for us.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skabbor View Post
    What's fascinating are the people who complain about bias but refuse to write anything from their own point of view. You'd think when they have an open invitation to straighten things out they'd be all over that. But I guess whining about it is a lot easier than trying to write a coherent explanation of your own point of view.
    I wonder if writing things for TMDC just comes off as a daunting task for those who are not native English speakers or are members of master-pet coalitions where information sharing with the public (or speaking out on behalf of the coalition, however you want to spin it) is generally discouraged because these coalitions encourage third-world-style relationships with their shit-status member corporations.

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    Things were kind of ugly there after Benghazi but we're back in action and up to 4 publishes a day; these new writers own (Kitt JT, Pinky and Widders are superstars, among others) and we're looking for South Null dudes for HBC/SoCo reportage, which I feel is lacking. We've balanced our North Null coverage with 2x Nulli and 1x BL contrib. (Poison Kevin never got back to me on Skype, and finding literate NCdot contribs remains about as easy as finding literate -A- contribs)

    Also Malcanis' first piece goes out tomorrow!
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    Shit I better finish up part 2 then

    Lazy cunt that I am


    Did you put pictures in it like I asked?
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    There's a difference between article bias and site bias.
    Oh, absolutely. I'm just pointing out that "well, you do it then" does not absolve you from malicious intent should there be any.

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    I would like to see a book review on some old sagas on TM. Some of you nerds claim to read 2 books a week. Cant be that hard for you guys.

    Brennu-Njáls saga

    Egils saga Skalla-Grímssonar

    Gísla saga Súrssonar

    Grettis saga

    Laxdæla saga

    These are one of the better ones. Here is a video to wet your appetite.


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    I read a translation of Eiríks Saga Rauða many moons ago...

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    Suggestion:

    It would be nice if you could look for articles by author, if the Features section was further categorized to separate opinion articles from interviews, gameplay articles and ALOD. Also separating News by region/quadrant.

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    Site is amazing.

    *tongues relevant anuses*

    That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    Site is amazing.

    *tongues relevant anuses*

    That is all.
    Direct all culolingus to DurrHurrDurr

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet View Post
    Suggestion:

    It would be nice if you could look for articles by author, if the Features section was further categorized to separate opinion articles from interviews, gameplay articles and ALOD. Also separating News by region/quadrant.
    We already separated the teams out into which area of the game they participate in. Also, if you search by author in the search bar, you can find articles by the author, at least I did when searching for Grath and Malcanis, but I see your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopin View Post
    We already separated the teams out into which area of the game they participate in. Also, if you search by author in the search bar, you can find articles by the author, at least I did when searching for Grath and Malcanis, but I see your point.
    It's just that the tabs at the top of the page are almost useless. News is mostly fine, but Features seems to be a messy old closet where everything gets dumped after being used (read) once or twice; pieces about planetside2 are in the category as Grath's coalitions essay, comments on the latest FW changes and the fundraiser for Vile Rat. Media and Books are perfect, they serve their purpose well enough. Columns is just c/p of Mittens' TTH articles v0v

    Nothing too bad, really, but cleaning this out and properly categorizing articles would makes things a little more user-friendly.

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    15 dead supers in one week. Sehr gut, sehr gut...
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    Soviet spymaster remembers Che Guevara

    Lt. Gen. Nikolai Leonov (Ret.), of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), a predecessor to the KGB, who first met Che long before the victory of the Cuban revolution, described him as an “overwhelming figure” who belongs to all generations.

    “He was the embodiment of the mythical and literary types that have always struck a chord with the people,” said Leonov, who retired as head of the KGB analytical directorate in August 1991.

    “In such cases I think of Christ the Savior and Don Quixote.”
    Che Guevara would have been a Goon if he played eve.

    http://indrus.in/articles/2012/10/12...ara_18317.html

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    I am the successor to Che's legacy in EVE

    EM-L3K Libre!

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    I'm really digging the option to pull all the articles for specific games.

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    I like this site because it isn't a fucking eyesore.

    Also, dat space interview, the best article I've ever seen on any EVE news site.

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    I thought that the "Why Does Everyone Hate -A-" article was the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read. Not only was it 100% circlejerk, it was written by some publord blogger who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about (a null-sec alliance).

    Here's his lolblog.

    He recommends that -A- disband and create a new alliance to erase the terrible connotations associated with their name. :

    Also, "-A- can write articles too" is not a valid excuse for posting this shit.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    James315 writes some of the longest, spergiest, most convoluted and utterly fucktarded things on the subject of EVE I've ever seen, and technically he's my peer but I once read a James article to completion and was sorry about it. Never again.

    His previous articles were always about the CCP conspiracy to turn EVE into a theme park MMO by nerfing suicide ganking, if you remember those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieTopSiders View Post
    I thought that the "Why Does Everyone Hate -A-" article was the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read. Not only was it 100% circlejerk, it was written by some publord blogger who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about (a null-sec alliance).

    Here's his lolblog.

    He recommends that -A- disband and create a new alliance to erase the terrible connotations associated with their name. :

    Also, "-A- can write articles too" is not a valid excuse for posting this shit.
    Yea that article was pants-on-head retarded.

    More HBC & Co. scrublords talking about shit they don't even vaguely understand.

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    Surprised that TESTies are idiots? Well that's new.

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    Yeah I want to read an article in which herculetz explains why everyone hates -a-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    James315 writes some of the longest, spergiest, most convoluted and utterly fucktarded things on the subject of EVE I've ever seen
    Challenge accepted
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Y'know he could have wrapped that article up and made it a million times less bad by examining the basic objectives of a war and working out how that's interacted with -A-'s rise and fall. (Hint: The enemy's ability or their will to fight.)

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    meanwhile en24 is down to reposting devblogs.


    edit: did i really write "devblocks(sic!)" and no one noticed/negrepped that for 2 days? fuck me that was one mean bottle of sake.

    just because i have lowered the spelling standards so much that no one cares anymore does not mean i should not be punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Y'know he could have wrapped that article up and made it a million times less bad by examining the basic objectives of a war and working out how that's interacted with -A-'s rise and fall. (Hint: The enemy's ability or their will to fight.)
    James writes more words in one article than I've written in my eleven or twelve, he's not really a fan of brevity.

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    But is a fan of looking pants-on-the-head retarded by rambling on at length when all he really needed to get across was that -A-'s unwillingness to fight effectively destroyed them as an alliance, since again it comes down to being willing and able to fight that wins or loses wars.

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    I've also heard that this is a game which puts a significant if not major emphasis on PVP and that refusing to participate was a controversial move

    Or you could just talk about Maka for sixty pages, v0v

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    I feel like there is a big resemblance in James315's writing style and his biggest sponsors writing style.

    I predict James will start blogging "blahargl why am i doing this" at some point.

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    Someone's reading it. Most viewed article of November thus far

    I also attempted some writing. Harder than editing let me tell you that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDerp View Post
    I feel like there is a big resemblance in James315's writing style and his biggest sponsors writing style.
    I've been waiting for Mittens to come out and admit he's James315 for years now. I've never heard James on mumble or seen him on jabber, and their writing is retardedly similar.

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    Heheh I made some people ~spacemad~
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Very good article.

    One thing CCP needs desperately to do is erase this image that they are running back and forth at the bequest of the various player groups. They need an official statement about how they incorporate feedback and that they are the motherfucking game designers, and, therefore, know best what to do with the incorporation of player input and implementation of changes (even if they don't). This image that CCP is up for grabs to the squeakiest wheel is the ultimate source of this divisiveness, which is a poor way to run a company of any sort and in particular a company whose sucess is based on the constant updating of a product.

    I think incorporating customer input like they do is revolutionary, and part of a changing paradigm of consumer/producer relations, but going too far and losing the image of professional authority doesn't benefot anyone and begs the question what you are actually doing as a company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Heheh I made some people ~spacemad~
    I saw a 10 page article written by you and thought it was going to be as terrible as your posts here on kugu, but it was actually a good read
    RIP Viper Rat

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    Also kind of funny how you can't use anything remotely related to Nazis anymore without being accused of gross hyperbole. I thought the reference to Goebbels was perfectly relevant and far from overplayed.

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    I'm a bit disappointed that no one caught the Trammel reference, but you can't have everything.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    I'm a bit disappointed that no one caught the Trammel reference, but you can't have everything.
    I did catch it, and am still raging at how they managed to completely fuck up UO with the Trammel/Felucca split.

    EVE has never, in my opinion quite matched up to UO in terms of "do what you want", but it's a close second, with very few other games coming near it.

    (Fishing, cartographing, digging up the treasure, telekinesis and fighting mobs to get awesome vanq weapons and amor for life!)

    EDIT: On topic, I really enjoyed the article, Malc. +rep!

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    You know you're on a goons controlled forum when this dumpstersite gets to be stickied. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le'Blob View Post
    You know you're on a goons controlled forum when this dumpstersite gets to be stickied. lol
    Just because nobody reads your posts doesn't mean you should go off posting whatever jenkem-fueled vision comes into your worthless mongoloid skull.

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    What's the matter frown town, you don't like the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le'Blob View Post
    What's the matter frown town, you don't like the truth?
    Consider he's BL, he'd probably say it isn't true at all.

    Also why the fuck are you green.

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    Because rep doesn't matter you faggot, how have you not picked up on this yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Because rep doesn't matter you faggot, how have you not picked up on this yet.
    Bunch of weak faggots in here, Riverini would be green these days with an attitude like that.

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    Same retards who think they are also going to hold Catch and that INIT are good allies. lol

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