No, that's the magic called OTEC.Originally Posted by Soni
No, that's the magic called OTEC.
I was referring to Delve, but okay.
Batphone is a batphone, and to tbfh I hope Delve explodes into ashes and -A- and the South and East lose their space and income.
Then CFC and play with Nippy nappy friends with coordinated well even number fights with OTEC members like AT.
I am glad to see quality posters like Pilious and AfrONEcan geting back into it.
It's just like ~old times again.
Quality, the game is shit with ever increasing Blobmetrics, all un-blue and fight each other ffs.
As I read this, I cannot help but feel that there are a whole bunch of people out their that are just assuming if SOCO loses this one, that's it, Eve is gonna go tits up.
I am not saying that the CFC-HB side will go the way of the DRF(different people, different events will happen), but honestly, it is a game that is about fighting someone, taking shit from your neighbor, and being the king of the hill. Someone is going to look at their borders and decide that they want to see what it's like to own that next bit of sov, and there will be more engagements. It'll happen, look at the history of the game.
Propaganda will flow, people will get butthurt over something, someone will shoot blues...but space will never be all sunshine and rainbows.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
I know this was like 4 pages ago, but I'm just catching up and found this gem.
RA was the strongest of the southern residents?
Are you fucking retarded, bro?
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Convicted, so your quality alliance now wtf have you done on your own sod all. I post because imo I believe the game is getting retarded with Alliances making all sort of deals to save their shit and then complain about good fights when a challenge presents itself.
Why don't we all frigging join CFC, so we can all win and beat our chests coz my gang is fucking enormously bigger than yours.
Quality? lolz
RA's fitting skills are surpassed by none.
I think the word historically plays a big role in his sentence there bud.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
I read your post. However the points your making are invalid and demonstrate how ignorant you are. Grath (or was it Elise) said a few pages ago that there were really only 2 wars they fought on their own. They openly admit that there aren't any they have fought on their own short maybe 2?
You make all these claims of people lacking balls yet all I see from your entire coalition are a group of faggots who don't travel far from the undock.
The mentality of your leadership is so delusional to the point where you all believe the bullshit that keeps getting regurgitated to you.
Let me put it to you this way.
My balls are fucking huge right now dude. It's because I have people like Goonswarm, TEST, PL, RZR, FCON, AIF, SMA, EXE, LAWN and hitting the renters in the south, GENTS as well as new duders like 99% and TASHA all backing me and my alliance provided I'm not complete shit. They treat us as allies and while we have our internal spats and reset each other on occasion, it's times like this where we band together just to read the tears pouring out of your entire fucking coalition about how horribly bad it is to be blobbed to shit by a force you have zero hope to combat due to one simple factor you still refuse to accept.
You are shit.
Oh and you bet your ass if I didn't have these dudes backing me, my balls would be small too. The thing is, I worked hard to gain the respect of these guys and tried (which is all they really asked of us) to become better. Doing this small simple thing that they've asked has grown our coalition. Yeah, we could have replicated what you guys did in the south. However, we'd probably be in the same situation you're in, bitching about PL calling you out.
Well buddy... Fatal Fucking Ascension is calling you out.
e: spelling and homonyms suck.
Historically like in 2007, maybe. Maybe if he'd actually play the game he'd see they've been mongoloidal retards for a long, long, long time now.
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What monster could resist Shadoo asking to fleet up? :swoon:
Keep in mind who they're being compared to.
I would definitely take your word on that. There have been quite a few people here though that have commented that it is sad to see a formerly powerful group performing at the level they are now. I can't personally call anyone bad, something about glass houses and whatnot, so I must gauge from second hand recounting.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
Read: "You're all mean poopyheads for being too good at eve, please undo everything you've worked for 2 years for because -A- is shit."
It's just that time of the year again, the doom age.
"BOB will kill the game."
"The NC will kill the game."
"The DRF will kill the game."
"The CFC will kill the game."
None of the previous events killed the game, I'd be surprised of "the CFC" kills the game either. If anything, I'd point to -A- and say that this attitude is much, much more damaging to the game than the CFC's coalition is.
CCP damage their's game enought themselves. They don't need any more help.
Historically powerful doesn't have any relation to presently powerful anyway. I doubt anyone thought Mussolini being overthrown was the final nail in Hitler's coffin, despite the fact that Italy used to control the area that was known as the Roman Empire.
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BINGO!CCP damage their's game enought themselves. They don't need any more help.
Repeating this on here:
I want Y-O as my personal playpen. How can I make this happen?
Sure you do molle......
Let me tell you what's to come:
The Honeybadgers will steamroll Delve/Querious/PB and stop there. After all, CFC cannot completely annihilate the only coalition left as an opponent and make the mistakes of the old NC.
CFC knows that they still need to have an opponent, not too far from them, to get some fights and motivate its members.
What's to come in the future (2013):
The next biggest war will come after the Tech nerf. PL, now freed from the Tech goldmines of the North, will side together with the rest of EVE sov holders against CFC in the next biggest EVE war...
Raiden was already kicked from Tenal and they've NIPed with NCdot (who don't play EVE except when pings go out). There is no "not too far from them" now.
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I know I have said this before, but I do believe it requires re-iteration.
There seem to be a very clear difference between the construction of the former leading powerblocks in this game, and the way CFC has managed to create a culture where everyone know their place, internal strife is settled by GSF, and everyone is happy with that solution (ie the FA vs. FCON(?) freighter incident)
The CFC by now seems so tightly connected and have so many benefits from becoming even more intergrated (like WI disappearing as an alliance to being a GSF corp), and with a leadership that continually convinces their grunts that the current enemy is the worst douche in the World and nees's to be removed, there does not seem to be very much that can break the Coalition. Hell, even the big ego's in the CFC seem to be enjoy working together.
I would love to be proven wrong, but I can't see what currently can break the CFC Coalition. Please enlighten me, though?
Civil war.
It is inevitable.
I think with this group it may come down to something you mentioned, egos. The communication they have between each other is quite good, and will continue most probably. However, look at some of the people affiliated with GSF. FA and Test aren't asshole buddies by any stretch it would seem, and despite everything being solved from that freighter incident, I am sure there are Fcon peeps who resent what went down. As long as there is an external source to let aggression be vented against, things will be okay.
If, and I say if because I wont take it for granted like some have that SOCO has lost, HB-CFC wins, something will eventually give, be it 6 months from the end of the war, maybe a year. No one can tell the future, gimmicks aside.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
Artificial (enemies) existence for convenience, arggh like a dildo.
Hey man, not everyone will like the new Brainwash Berry or Or the Cyanide Citrus Kool-Aid the CFC is pimping.
Not everyone will agree with the majority does. Does this make the majority wrong? No. Does this make the minority wrong? No. Differences in opinions will always be there, and those that forget that are doomed sometimes. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Definitely will be exciting anyway.
No, that is something i completely agree with Grath, Shadoo and you tgr, on. This will not break the game. This is not the end, CFC will fall eventually. Even when they own 100% of 0.0 they will fall at some point in time.
People should (and yes also -A-) stop crying about blobs and shit. Its part of the game, its part of 0.0 If you want fair and even fights go join RvB. If you live in 0.0 you should count on losing all your stuff. So when your enemy brings 5times your numbers you simple say, FU and go roam some NPC space. Thats why i like the RvB model so much. Its always balanced and always a gf.
I hope solar or nulli tell ~A~ to fuck off so they can build up their own coalition not based on a renter sandcastle that dissolves every time the tide comes in. Both have shown that they have what it takes to fight(not run away untill the enemy gets bored) even numbers in a long conflict and come out on top.
Nulli wasn't doing too bad before it all escalated and if they would have called everyone in for a couple key timers instead of deploying them all it might have worked out for them.
Pay the entire diplo corps to stop playing eve and whoah buddy.
I realy dont get this "wont be able to find fights deal.We never have any trouble finding fights.True we may have a harder time finding a fuck off tidi fest fleet fight, but there is no end of smaller fights.
Being in the CFC means I can join any fleet in fleet finder flying with whatever FC i like to.Standardized Fleet compositions mean I always know what to fly and learn where I fit in best. -A-'s premise that we will just get board and fuck off isn't even close.As a plain old grunt I am having a great time.Fleet finder is always full and there are any number of op's,roams,camps I can join in on at anytime.If they really think we are just going to lose interest they are in for a shock.
Why do you think test are taking delve, probably one of the richest regions in the game once the tech nerf hits? After the nerf they will obviously reset goons and be freed of their oedipus complex for ever!
I disagree http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13866508
He was afk on station just before DT.
R.I.P Vile Rat
On the blob topic, it happens everywhere in the game. When my corpies and I roll up on a gang of five peeps in a highsec war(yup highsec wars still ghey) with eight fleet members we'll hear a few tears about how we do nothing but blob.
Some people do not like losing, and that is just human nature. Lost a roam fleet jumping into a Test gatecamp intentionally to do our best Leroy imitation last night, and not one of our guys bitched about being blobbed. The closest thing said to it was; "Damn, that's a lot of ships." It was only about 20, yet I guess it is all a matter of perspective.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
No it wont. As PL and Mittens already stated. They would have brought in the rapetrain anyway. Which isnt bad, its part of the game. But dont complain about them not willing to play punchingbag
And what coalition would you have thought they could build ? Everyone in 0.0 is on one of 2 sides; OTEP or SoCo+eastRussia
Not everyone. Some are content watch as everyone shoots everyone. It's almost as good as fireworks.
We don't need CFC leadership to tell us that our current enemy are the "worst douche in the World". We're well aware of how shit -A- is and can figure this out on our own.
Historically
All the same I'd place RAX higher up the list than RA
Have Groon been informed of the imminent influx of refugees into their back garden yet? The Manticores and Caracals must be broken out in preparation
Props to the CFC for creating one of the strongest coalitions in the history of EVE.
Props to PL for playing this like the sly Finns (I guess this comes from Shadoo) to keep on the winning side/ISK teet as well as they have during the conflict. It is an interesting prospect to have the Leadership/logistics from PL combined with the sheer number of CFC.
Props to SoCo for moving your allies to the area to ignite the largest conflict this year (everybody likes wars). Now fight the CFC on those timers and earn their respect. You can smack all you want on forums etc as long as you have the actions to back it up. You have the numbers, you have the people. *Insert Nike quote here*
I'll wait for a battle with all the warring alliances in it before I cast my vote. Have fun!
Folks are missing the point on this one and assuming this has to do with toe to toe fighting. Sov war, especially versus the sort of numbers mustered by CFC + HBC in USTZ's is basically a timezone war. It's all about timers and good tz's for you and bad tz's for them. This of course assumes you give a shit about keeping your shit.
The point about RA is they are the only one of the Delve residents that could have (if they awoke like a slumbering giant) brought decent numbers into an off timezone to wage the war and it is a point based on historical capabilities. The "head shot"merely made sure they were out of the game and put the fight squarely into USTZ.
Anyway, I don't usually post here - so don't mind my butting in but I think that was the point. Either that or it's just a big fat troll).
I think if everyone had been reading PK posts on behalf of the CFC for the last year it would be PL and -A- burning our house down.
The only thing that could truly beat the CFC, as it is, now, is an enormous civil war. Though the opposing 'faction' would need to be roughly equal in size to the ruling goons and their allies. An almost 50-50 split, otherwise the uppity alliances would just be camped into station, have their space reinforced, get dickcoptered...etc.
What is truly impressive about the CFC isn't the numbers involved, but the political savvy and metred generosity of the tech moon income to create a situation where civil war is unlikely and impossible to win for the instigator, though this inevitably leads to massive numbers during full deployment. The numbers are simply a consequent of the antecedent political manoeuvring. Couple this with a shared, or at least partially aligned, culture across the member alliances (for the most part) and an ability for combined forces to operate effectively, and I'm not surprised at the attitude of 'SoCo' guys proclaiming 'victory through perseverance' and 'if they don't annihilate us we win!'. The imbalance in forces so far is with the misconstrued Literal interpretation of the CFC misnomer. The CFC is not a 'coalition' at all, it is a single entity that doesn't just form up when there's fightin' to be done. The South truly is a coalition however, and while it may be all well and good while the CFC is in its 'sleeping giant' mode to have so many targets around to shoot, it's difficult to then organise those truly autonomous alliances of culturally different nerds into one effective oppositional force efficiently, but more importantly in this case, quickly.
It'll be interesting to see if that shared sense of community will keep the CFC together once the tech imbalance is resolved (In whatever guise that 'fix' manifests) and isk isn't a motivating factor anymore. Personally, I'd like to see the breakdown of the CFC. Not due to any particular dislike, but just because it'd be far more interesting a place if more people adopted this attitude of 'mostly equal partnerships' and we saw multiple power blocks again and not just one major power and 'the rest'. Ironically that equal partnership model was probably the case in Delve between Nulli, Vera Cruz and Huns before this all kicked off.
tl;dr
Fuck you guys and fuck your organisation. But well done. Fuck.
Good thing we have your sig to remind us of what happened that time.
I dunno man, when you house PK people are much less likely to give up and go home.
Actually FCon did in the East last year when I asked them to deploy. Lawn did, too: 1v1 alliance wars with sov attacked and in one case an alliance cascaded. The only time that those weren't 1v1 was when the hostiles brought in people like Solar Fleet to save them (momentarily). SMA kinda did something similar but they were helping out a corp or two and there was no sov, only POSes, since they did their thing in NPC space.
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IMHO SoCo (and I'm in SoCo) are missing an opportunity to rally a real force to fight CFC.
There's plenty of guys in Eve beyond the current southern collation who would be p.happy to shoot Goons we just need a non-bitter, sockpooping central command and some balls.
What better opportunity to introduce high sec dudes to war than rally some of them with the chance to shoot goons?
This would be pretty cool. The real mistake that is going to cost them everything they have is letting -A- call the shots; Makalu has literally no idea what he is doing, both when it comes to FCing a single fleet, and when it comes to overall strategy. PK is one step above a paranoid schizophrenic with downs syndrome. Putting these two complete morons in charge of anything is a mistake; between them, they can't organise jack shit.
Its kinda sad really that this is the state of affairs people find themselves in. I can only hope they realise their best bet is to tell them to fuck right off.
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