The Forces of Smugness coming to Delve

**Scotch** · 2012-03-12

I pity the people that live there. :<

**cracken** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Manny

You obviously have never lived in Period Basis or understand the concerns of people who live there.

Still it is possible to do logistics even without having blues in Delve and Querious its just a bit more trouble and you have to have JDC 5 for Jumpfrigthers which everyone should have anyway.. I can say this because I have lived in that shithole that Period Basis is. Only whine people who are to dumb to plan jump routes would cry about delve and querious. But I guess every alliance has dumb ppl so allot of ppl will cry

**Endie** · 2012-03-12

Bat Country's very best operative have laboured through the night to crack the encryption on NEMthreeSIS's secure communications in order to bring you this.

2012-03-12 10:37:00	eQx Cress	FROM GSY to allaince-READ IT	NEM3SIS.
Hi All Well the time has come for us all to stand up and be counted. As one of the founder corporations of the Nem3sis alliance, and as an alliance DA, myself and Galactic Shipyards (GSY) are dedicated to Assisting the alliance in overcoming the hostile entities that threat the peaceful sanctuary of the alliance SOV. Galactic Shipyards (GSY) will stay and fight alongside any corporation that is still willing to defend our space from these invaders. We will be here until we overcome these invaders or the alliance dies trying. (which isn’t going to happen) As an alliance leader and DA council member I want to stress the alliance leadership, alongside our blue leaders, are confident that we all have the means and determination to see this through. The alliance leadership is strong and unified in this, our hour of need, and expect our members to be the same. The leadership would however like to stress that this cannot be done by any one individual but needs to be done as a combined force. We need all members and blues to follow the commands of the FC’s and leadership. So that we all work together as one finely tuned warp drive engine. Let’s get out there and kick some ass eQx Cress Galactic Shipyards CEO Nem3sis leadership [DA] Internal Affairs XO All round good guy

**Yoji** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Manny

You obviously have never lived in Period Basis or understand the concerns of people who live there.

So you would rather have, very easy logistics (JD5 makes everything "relatively" easy) or no targets for 70 jumps. Manny, you have definetly turned into a PvP focused person

With the quality of Nullie i have seen over the last 6 months i am 100% confident that they will be able to live in PB with RA around, and would love to see the extra targets.

**Wintershield** · 2012-03-12

While we (nulli) thought RA was being moved next door and set blue there was a huge fit.
Now that we (nulli) know RA is being moved next door, but remaining neut, it's a lot easier to take!

I kind of hope we give N3m a helping hand. No huge fan of Nem, but I'll give them all the credit in the world for telling -a- "no, we're not letting them have our space" and fighting for it. Hope we just happen to take a roam or two that way while they are fighting.

**ripper van** · 2012-03-12

go and refuse those RA useless cunts having nice space for free!
Get fights from them at least.
There is no reason why RA should have it that easy. Why?
There is no logic about this either, fighting them and kicking them out of the southern regions and then give them better space next door.

**Carlton Banks** · 2012-03-12

I would like to stress the N3M3S3S must have set some sort of record for amount of space held by a completely incompetent alliance.

**Ricky** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Carlton Banks

I would like to stress the N3M3S3S must have set some sort of record for amount of space held by a completely incompetent alliance.

Have a look at Querious quick before Fail leaves, im pretty sure they have more

**Sath** · 2012-03-12

Oh wow, GSY is in N3M? Those poor, poor bastards. Huzzah Federation 2005-2006 never forget etc.

**cracken** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Sath

Oh wow, GSY is in N3M? Those poor, poor bastards. Huzzah Federation 2005-2006 never forget etc.

Anybody who is taking these alliance mails serious is getting trolled. If they really wanted to fight there would not be fucktons of JF's leaving their systems everyday for the last 3 days now.. The wise ppl are already moving all their shit out and the dumb one are thrown to the wolves.

**Nicky D** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Ricky

Have a look at Querious quick before Fail leaves, im pretty sure they have more

idk it's not like we're allowed to use any of it
fail pilots are only allowed to rat in 2 systems and i think KRYDOT is left to like defend the region as best they can

**Wusti** · 2012-03-12

I reckon the poor old AAC dudes in Nem3 must be feeling a certain kind of deja vu right about now.

Whilst the Nulli dudes may have the best of intentions, once -A- show them the whip - its all over.

**Nostradamous** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Banlish

Hrm, 1 member from DTHI went to Burning Napalm. Bobby Atlas quit, came back and left corp and quit again.

Pubbie being misinformed is nothing new, thanks tho. Have no idea who you are, maybe have even 5% right tho next time o7o7

Any question about DTHI's past can be answered by myself, though don't expect them to be right........As most of my time in DTHI was spent either drunk, or stoned.. and more often then not, both!

**Nostradamous** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Carlton Banks

I would like to stress the N3M3S3S must have set some sort of record for amount of space held by a completely incompetent alliance.

AtlasDOT

(crap double post)

**Malcanis** · 2012-03-12

That old BoB pet alliance that began with a X that literally disappeared within 3 days of Molle resetting them?

Xelas?

**Atticus** · 2012-03-12

Nulli - proving again that despite best efforts, they'll never be more than AAA's bitch. They're like a battered wife who keeps taking their abusive husband back. AAA says "I'll change. I'll quit drinking." But time and time again, Herc shows up late at night, whiskey on his breath, to smack Nulli around to show who's boss.

Some day, I hope, Nulli will realize how terrible their relationship is with AAA and seek some outside help.

**Atticus** · 2012-03-12

**Warband** · 2012-03-12

Anybody who thinks this is bad for Nulli doesn't really have any idea what's going on.

**ACF Cadelanne** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Warband

Anybody who thinks this is bad for Nulli doesn't really have any idea what's going on.

The hell would we do with Querious, anyways?

Current situation: FAIL owns sov in Querious and it's basically empty.

New situation: RA owns sov in Querious and we can go shoot them, while FAIL turns into a meatshield for -A-

**Goblin** · 2012-03-12

If waffle leadership accept my app I have a chance of first hand experience with the pvp powerhouse that is 'Nem-three-sis'

**Lorren Canada** · 2012-03-12

Originally Posted by Nostradamous

Any question about DTHI's past can be answered by myself, though don't expect them to be right........As most of my time in DTHI was spent either drunk, or stoned.. and more often then not, both!

Well then, it sounds as though they've come to right place at last.

**Banlish** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Lorren Canada

Well then, it sounds as though they've come to right place at last.

The ratio of drunks, stoners, trolls and manlovers was so freaking high (like 95%+???) that it was the most logical move for the corp. We LIKE trolling the shit outta each other, having a damn good time and NOT taking the game seriously. I doubt any member of Di-Tron would say much different, 1 or 2 people will be going to stay with friends on their couches but they left or are leaving in the correct manner.

As a few other DTHI people have said in this thread, they didn't feel like the corp 'fit' into FAIL. This isn't a good or bad thing in most of our eyes, instead of creating drama or rocking the boat the directors found an alliance that better suits the way we act/play. I guess it doesn't hurt that like 75% of the corp have been Redditors for like 1 to 2 years now either

. Should be an interesting ride tbh.

**grover clevland** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Warband

Anybody who thinks this is bad for Nulli doesn't really have any idea what's going on.

FYI What's going on is an attempt to lose as many Jump Freighters as possible. Ceding Querious to neutrals is an important part of this plan.

**Ricky** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Warband

Anybody who thinks this is bad for Nulli doesn't really have any idea what's going on.

Yeah cause fighting them for months to then give them space at your doorstep is logical, and not to mention there strong ties to ppl that hate your overlord like the plague and the relations whit cfc, yup i agree makes perfect sense to have such a trustworthy alliance all around your space,

edit: i never thought i was gonna give Matt the creds cause at the time he was wrong imo but these days, ohh man is he right.

**Sandwich** · 2012-03-13

Your intel is suspect.......

**ripper van** · 2012-03-13

lol I would not call that "intel", its obvious.

**Pielemieni** · 2012-03-13

Wait, can someone enlighten me what is this fuss all about? I can see 1 (in words: one) system in Querious being claimed by RA so far. None in Delve. Are the "Forces of (Red) Darkness" afraid of engaging FAIL (seriously, FAIL?) and wait till they leave to Detorid? Or what... Honest question.

**Kardek** · 2012-03-13

tldr RA into Q, Fail cascading in the next two weeks, Nulli grunts buying into the big picture spin, -A- screwing over allies. Tbh RA was a surprise but other then that...

something043 · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Banlish

The ratio of drunks, stoners, trolls and manlovers was so freaking high (like 95%+???) that it was the most logical move for the corp. We LIKE trolling the shit outta each other, having a damn good time and NOT taking the game seriously. I doubt any member of Di-Tron would say much different, 1 or 2 people will be going to stay with friends on their couches but they left or are leaving in the correct manner.

As a few other DTHI people have said in this thread, they didn't feel like the corp 'fit' into FAIL. This isn't a good or bad thing in most of our eyes, instead of creating drama or rocking the boat the directors found an alliance that better suits the way we act/play. I guess it doesn't hurt that like 75% of the corp have been Redditors for like 1 to 2 years now either

. Should be an interesting ride tbh.

Confirming this. I'm currently drunk with a pineapple in my ass, fail was too uptight for dthi. Test should be a lot more fun

**JimFromIT** · 2012-03-13

It's not at all like RA ever bites the hand of people who give them space when they have none - just ask ATLAS!

**Endie** · 2012-03-13

Pretty much everyone in NEMthreeSISdot who can lay their hands on a keyboard has emailed an incredibly portentuous "here we stand or die"* alliance moraleblog post in the last 24 hours.

*It's option B.

**ACF Cadelanne** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by something043

Confirming this. I'm currently drunk with a pineapple in my ass, fail was too uptight for dthi. Test should be a lot more fun

Test pets. I was under the impression that JPEG grabbed all the DTHI pilots worth a damn

**progodlegend** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Carlton Banks

I would like to stress the N3M3S3S must have set some sort of record for amount of space held by a completely incompetent alliance.

I was thinking this the other day when I looked at dotlan and saw Nemesis had more stations then we did

.

**progodlegend** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Ricky

Yeah cause fighting them for months to then give them space at your doorstep is logical, and not to mention there strong ties to ppl that hate your overlord like the plague and the relations whit cfc, yup i agree makes perfect sense to have such a trustworthy alliance all around your space,

edit: i never thought i was gonna give Matt the creds cause at the time he was wrong imo but these days, ohh man is he right.

Because with delve core being an easy staging point for any alliance to invade nulli space who feels like it, or fuck with delve in general, it really matters who the fuck lives in Querious/rest of delve at all. Oh wait, no it doesn't.

**Ricky** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by progodlegend

Because with delve core being an easy staging point for any alliance to invade nulli space who feels like it, or fuck with delve in general, it really matters who the fuck lives in Querious/rest of delve at all. Oh wait, no it doesn't.

as i said on nulli forum keep telling yourself this is a great deal for Nulli and you might believe it one day. got nothing to do whit how easy Nulli's space is to invade from anywhere.

i cant even remember the amount of time -a- or anybody else from the south rly bend you and guderian over and you swallowed it and smiled gladly after.

First ATAK, then ROL, then Tek then -A- again for there gazilliond time. the only one in the south you ever stood up against is FAIL.

**Checkbox Poll** · 2012-03-13

idgi why people call DAWWW TEST pets. we simply funnel prospective corps through there for vetting before they join the pubbie throne.

**Banlish** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by ACF Cadelanne

Test pets. I was under the impression that JPEG grabbed all the DTHI pilots worth a damn

Again another misconception, 1st a corp thief (the former Atlas mk 2 leader) stole some stuff and went to Jpeg, some of his real life friends went with him. Some of his real life friends were good, but if it came down to a corp in a game or playing with a friend you know down the street you can see where most would choose. 1 really good pilot left with that crew, the rest were the thief's friends.

So I think in total we lost 1 thief, 4 friends of thief and 1 good pilot. Again, 'grabbed all DTHI pilots worth a damn' isn't even close to being accurate. But hey, I don't expect most people that aren't in the corp to know what's going on IN the corp.

**grover clevland** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Ricky

as i said on nulli forum keep telling yourself this is a great deal for Nulli and you might believe it one day. got nothing to do whit how easy Nulli's space is to invade from anywhere.

i cant even remember the amount of time -a- or anybody else from the south rly bend you and guderian over and you swallowed it and smiled gladly after.

First ATAK, then ROL, then Tek then -A- again for there gazilliond time. the only one in the south you ever stood up against is FAIL.

You don't really know what you are made of until you take a hit, get knocked down, and come back. Even if it hurts, it teaches you something about who you are. Nulli has always been afraid to take that hit - that is why Nulli doesn't get the respect that maybe we deserve. The "hey but we're most improved and still so noob" response can only go so far. Time to drop the fake little "woah we are noob" farce that seems to plague our responses and suck it up. Meh. But then I'm just an alt forum spying nub who's opinion shouldn't really count. LOL

**Warband** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by grover clevland

You don't really know what you are made of until you take a hit, get knocked down, and come back. Even if it hurts, it teaches you something about who you are. Nulli has always been afraid to take that hit - that is why Nulli doesn't get the respect that maybe we deserve. The "hey but we're most improved and still so noob" response can only go so far. Time to drop the fake little "woah we are noob" farce that seems to plague our responses and suck it up. Meh. But then I'm just an alt forum spying nub who's opinion shouldn't really count. LOL

What do you consider "being knocked down"? If loosing space is such a quantifier, you must have joined with your spy after IT fell and we lost our original space.

**Wusti** · 2012-03-13

Warband, I generally like you guys but you are not doing yourselves any favours with your handling of this at all.

Every time you tell someone you'll help them out and then backflip when pressure is applied by AAA is another reminder to people that your are just another risk averse alliance - no matter how cool you think you are.

This was another chance for you guys to show some backbone and you fucked it.

I know you probably don't want to hear it - but there you go.

**grover clevland** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Warband

What do you consider "being knocked down"? If loosing space is such a quantifier, you must have joined with your spy after IT fell and we lost our original space.

Honestly was trying to help out. But since you mention it:

If I remember right Nulli made no effort to defend sov held Querious. Nulli let Atlas take that space without a shot being fired because -A- asked them to give it up. Nulli then helped Atlas defend the same space later because ummmm.. yeah, that's right: -A- said so.

**Atticus** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Ricky

edit: i never thought i was gonna give Matt the creds cause at the time he was wrong imo but these days, ohh man is he right.

BETTER BE GOOD AT ARTS N CRAFTS JOJO!!!

**Warband** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Wusti

Warband, I generally like you guys but you are not doing yourselves any favours with your handling of this at all.

Every time you tell someone you'll help them out and then backflip when pressure is applied by AAA is another reminder to people that your are just another risk averse alliance - no matter how cool you think you are.

This was another chance for you guys to show some backbone and you fucked it.

I know you probably don't want to hear it - but there you go.

Just so I can respond to this correctly, who do you think we "backflipped" on?

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-03-13

Omist

**Wusti** · 2012-03-13

From what i am hearing its fairly clear the Nem3 dudes think you gave them commitments of support against RA.

**Warband** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Wusti

From what i am hearing its fairly clear the Nem3 dudes think you gave them commitments of support against RA.

Not the case. They were offered relocation by -A- the same way FAIL was, they declined. This is completely their choice, but we won't help them defend against RA, nor will we help RA take their space. This was stated in the S2N update- which in foreplay and I know you read. Obviously, we intended to defend Delve against RA before we ever knew there was a deal, this may be what they were referring to.

**Kardek** · 2012-03-13

Originally Posted by Warband

Not the case. They were offered relocation by -A- the same way FAIL was, they declined. This is completely their choice, but we won't help them defend against RA, nor will we help RA take their space. This was stated in the S2N update- which in foreplay and I know you read. Obviously, we intended to defend Delve against RA before we ever knew there was a deal, this may be what they were referring to.

Hard to imagine them turning down such a generous offer!!