the statement by Soundwave that bounty isk outnumber incursion 4:1, does that include hisec missioning?
the statement by Soundwave that bounty isk outnumber incursion 4:1, does that include hisec missioning?
It would include rat bounties but not the mission payouts.
Been a while since I last missioned, actual isk payout is what, like 1m?
I think he said it here:Originally Posted by Grath
http://tentonhammer.com/eve-online/i...ferno-part-one
Again, proud blackman CCP Soundwave:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default...398#post925398
And Dr. Eyo posts graphs, but his presentation isn't on youtube yet. He has the exact breakdown of isk faucets vs isk sinks. More isk is coming into the game than is being removed, and the number he posted was crazy, but I don't have it available until someone posts it on youtube.
“@CCP_Diagoras: Incursion payouts v. chars? Jan: 13,865 people, 8.9tn ISK. (The previously stated 8.13 apparently didn't include ISK taken in taxes, oops).”
From the twitters today.
That still doesn't give us bounty numbers. Though I imagine average ratting income is a bit less than 641mil a month
K(awaii)ugu(u)tsumen
To be fair I know a number of people that run them all day, there seems to be a lot of people who only run incursions which is something I can't comprehend. I make about a bil every month or so running them and that does me fine.
When I was regularly running high-sec icursions, I would just do them on Sundays for 10-12 hours. It was a rarity to not take 1 billion or so ISK home (plus whatever the LP is worth). So, I'd imagine that people who run them 4-5 nights a week (@ 5-6 hours per night) are taking down 3+ billion in ISK weekly. Assuming they are smart enough to avoid Friday and Saturday when shit gets crowded and fleets having waiting lists, sites are contested, etc. Besides, I would hope the income from incursions is going towards funding a weekend PvP habit and not just some wallet balance they can count the zeroes on whilst stroking their epeen.
The video is up now
it's so quiet =C
I'm doing Incursions again and I don't know if you guys knew this but HOLY FUCK THESE THINGS POOP ISK... hope this helps you poor fuckers.
What setup do you guys use now?
A fleet of faction BS (preferably Machs/Nightmares/Vindies) will clean out any Vanguard site in only a few minutes, but FOTM seems to be whoring the NCOs with Legions/Lokis for around 150mil/hour not including LPs, and it makes more consistent ISK because even a shiny BS fleet can't contest a T3 fleet in the NCOs.
Testcursions aka Amokcursions uses ahacs with cute newbies/cheap jews in canes or harbys.
Also lol contest
Sorry for being stupid but WTF is an NCO?
Nation Commander Outpost. It's an incursion site that consists of frigs. The shiny battleship fleets can't compete because of scan res combined with large gun tracking. By the time the shiny battleship locks the frig, the legions have blapped it.
The only thing I know of that really stands a chance against a fleet of Legions is a fleet of Sleipnirs. And even then, the Legions still hold the edge if I'm not mistaken.
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12609601"][ 2012.03.02 08:32:51 ] Kurth Ren > whereas love squad avoids any engagement that is not a onesided curbstomp[/URL]
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888507"][ 2012.03.02 08:34:08 ] Kurth Ren > but you are literally arguing with the inventor of broski, you aren't going to win a debate about broski history with me[/URL]
[URL="http://unidan.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1876"][ 2012.03.02 08:40:48 ] Kurth Ren > it's filled with bitter faggots who would rather be slaves to finns and run at the first sign of a fight then go on ops[/URL]
sleip-astarte fleet will wreck legion fleet in an nco contest
lol good april fools joke
Ron Mexxico - Broski North
Helios Black > not mad ron
Thanks.
I think I may search for a pickup fleet. Will an Amarr T1 BS (T2 fit) be good enough to be picked up?
Just start your own. I did that this weekend; no BTL fleets were taking dudes, so I rounded up everyone in the pub channel, invited them to TS, and then had someone tag targets. The money wasn't near the upper echelons of Incursion income, but we still were hitting like 80 million an hour.
No joke. They won't even come close to the clear times of a Legion fleet. The damn near double base scanres of a Legion with sebo sub would be enough on it's own but they also have the Tracking Link-stacking Oneiroses in their favor as well. The flipside is, against a faction BS fleet the Legion fleet may as well not bother showing up to the NMCs and OTAs.
I highly suggest you look at the upper echelons of NCO Slep fleet setups. They're fit very similar to Legions and scimis can stuff their mids with tracking links and shit while still being stable.
You're going to want to try and fit into the common fleet comps. Shield fleets take battleships because they're usually Machs/nightmares/shield bs and run OTA/mining sites. The problem with armor battleships is they would go in armor fleets (for logi) and armor fleets usually are legions/zealots running NCOs. I don't think I've ever seen an armor battleship fleet.
If you have T2 large pulses and a bit of liquid isk you may want to look into getting into a Nightmare. If you're poor a shield Abaddon could work. However, as was mentioned before, your isk/hour will be worse than blitzing L4s for LP in a tengu or mach.
P.S. - That site is a good place for incursion beginners to get a rough idea on how to fit incursion ships.
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12609601"][ 2012.03.02 08:32:51 ] Kurth Ren > whereas love squad avoids any engagement that is not a onesided curbstomp[/URL]
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888507"][ 2012.03.02 08:34:08 ] Kurth Ren > but you are literally arguing with the inventor of broski, you aren't going to win a debate about broski history with me[/URL]
[URL="http://unidan.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1876"][ 2012.03.02 08:40:48 ] Kurth Ren > it's filled with bitter faggots who would rather be slaves to finns and run at the first sign of a fight then go on ops[/URL]
I tried Incursions when they were "new" (A Month after release or something like that.)
Back then I saw Armor BS too (the two times I could bring myself to run Incursions). But it was mostly Faction/Navy BS and I assume Setups changed quiet a bit since then.
The advantage of running Legion NCO fleets is that there's pretty much nothing that can contest you. That means every NCO you start, sometimes even if you're not the first fleet through the gate, you will plow in about two or three minutes flat and lol at 3b Mach fits like a boss nigger.
The only drawback is that your fleet won't be quite as good at plowing the other sites, but I'd rather be uncontestable at one kind of site than be just okay at doing all of them.
This is exactly the meta in the fleet comps in highsec. Faction pimped fleets own the shit out of OTA, are okay at NMC, and not particularly good at NCO. Legion/Slep own the shit out of NCO, are okay at NMC, and avoid OTA at all cost because the damage can actually get scary for the NCO blap fits.
This of course only applying to vanguard systems. I don't know shit about assaults other than they take 30 dudes and if you don't broadcast for reps on yellow box you'll die on the red box. I saw a nightmare get owned because logi "was distracted" and I never ran another assault. (Because FUCK losing your 2 bill ship because some logi pilot decides to start fapping on the job.)
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12609601"][ 2012.03.02 08:32:51 ] Kurth Ren > whereas love squad avoids any engagement that is not a onesided curbstomp[/URL]
[URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888507"][ 2012.03.02 08:34:08 ] Kurth Ren > but you are literally arguing with the inventor of broski, you aren't going to win a debate about broski history with me[/URL]
[URL="http://unidan.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1876"][ 2012.03.02 08:40:48 ] Kurth Ren > it's filled with bitter faggots who would rather be slaves to finns and run at the first sign of a fight then go on ops[/URL]
was just doing 1 1/2 minute sites with legions. tell me again how anything can beat that
Ron Mexxico - Broski North
Helios Black > not mad ron
why do you still make less isk than me?
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Assaults are bad for real jew niggers like myself, if I can't fap while running incursions then I might as well get a job or something.
m8 gave you my full api .... check my sick t3 count B)
Ron Mexxico - Broski North
Helios Black > not mad ron
The alpha isn't that extreme. You take more spike-damage blitzing the Deltoles in an OTA than in an Assault. One logi being distracted shouldn't be the cause of anything with an appropriate tank dying. I run mostly assaults as a logi and the common ways that people lose their ships are not broadcasting quick enough (if at all) and bringing in under-tanked ships (I laughed when someone brought in a 2x EANM+HG Slave Vindicator and it exploded), and all the logis simultaneously deciding to look at funny cat pictures.
The nightmare fleets I run in can beat legion fleets sometimes, if everybody is on the ball when we drop in.
Also
No incursion site takes 3 minutes, 2:15 is the slowest you want to be at any of them or you won't get paid in the constests. Less than 2 minutes is idea, total 3 minutes between payouts with warping.
Anyone care to guess how hard VG blitzing is going to get nerfed in the forthcoming patch?
http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/features/
The rewards and challenges of Sansha invasion fleets in Incursion content have been revisited to better balance challenge and reward. Vanguard invasions will now take a bit longer, while the time to complete an Assault invasions will be reduced some. In addition, the ISK reward of Vanguard invasions has been changed to bring the reward in line with the difficulty/risk.
[I]spherical monkey fears and envies[/I]
Depends on which method they used; if it was the pushback spawns (or increase orbit) suggestion, Legion fleets are now worse in every way () if it's simply timed spawns things are roughly equal, if it's an HP boost, Legion fleets catch the dick again.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
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