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    Moon minerals in asteroid around planets sounds awesome somehow. If we can only find someone who wants to mine while we fight over system control...

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    Eve Keynote TL : DR

    CCP Unifex - Competent PROFESSIONAL. I got the feel this guy is the man that made the blueprint that transformed CCP from a ADHD office pool of malcontents to a finely tuned society of worker bees.

    CCP Veritas - Literally the coolest CCP Dev I'd let him fuck my sister. ( he straight owns the shit out of lag ) Also starting work on CCP server multi-threading "turbo-nerds rejoice"

    Other shit

    Tech Nerf - Planetary ring mining ( I expect moons will randomly deplete/spawn different goo) Basically huge passive isk generation nerf / stealth buff to "power to the people" / buff to roaming and defense fleet.

    POS re-design - Think modular design basically like a I-hub reskinned with all kind of modular configuration's from known pos function research / production/ defense / moon mining too mini-stations captains quarters. Wormholers literally fapping non-stop.

    Missle Launchers - Like turrets exposed visual and fucking badass . tl ; dr tengu fleets are go!

    New ships modules - T3 destroyers fap fap fap. Orbital bombardment mod AWW YEA "I AM DEATH'S SMILING FACE". Salvager drones "Much rejoicing of Jews"

    War-Dec rework - Closing dec shield loopholes etc. Not a ton of specific details except Eve Ui supported merc contracts "Maybe you can hire the A-team"

    Web based and API stuff - idgi not enough image macros for me to understand but basically we will end up being able to change skills via Eve-Mon FUCK YEA!

    basically alot of practical stuff explained. I expect all the glitz and glam in CCP Presents tommorow. "Hoping to be dazzled"!

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    Salvaging drones have me pissed off. Farewell to ninja salvaging, farewell to helping newbies by having them clean the field after you, farewell to the noctis being remotely used... basically, salvaging was losing profitability before, now it's pretty much dead.

    Unless they are like... super nerfed salvagers, they screw up big time there.
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    That all sounds pretty good, if they can deliver half of that I'll be well pleased.

    TBH I'm not liking what I'm hearing about hi-sec, but what can you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    Missle Launchers - Like turrets exposed visual and fucking badass . tl ; dr tengu fleets are go!
    EVE has graphics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggerDangDude View Post
    Why the fuck are all the nerds shooting their collective spunk over that wormhole corp's panel? They're fucking wormhole nerds. No one cares about them.
    TURBOnerds, no less

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    Great, Bolton is getting drunk on stage again.

    CCP should make it an official event. Put him in a cage with booze and watch him melt into a pile of alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iratus View Post
    Great, Bolton is getting drunk on stage again.

    CCP should make it an official event. Put him in a cage with booze and watch him melt into a pile of alcohol.
    That such a tiny being can be so annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    Eve Keynote TL : DR

    CCP Unifex - Competent PROFESSIONAL. I got the feel this guy is the man that made the blueprint that transformed CCP from a ADHD office pool of malcontents to a finely tuned society of worker bees.

    CCP Veritas - Literally the coolest CCP Dev I'd let him fuck my sister. ( he straight owns the shit out of lag ) Also starting work on CCP server multi-threading "turbo-nerds rejoice"

    Other shit

    Tech Nerf - Planetary ring mining ( I expect moons will randomly deplete/spawn different goo) Basically huge passive isk generation nerf / stealth buff to "power to the people" / buff to roaming and defense fleet.

    POS re-design - Think modular design basically like a I-hub reskinned with all kind of modular configuration's from known pos function research / production/ defense / moon mining too mini-stations captains quarters. Wormholers literally fapping non-stop.

    Missle Launchers - Like turrets exposed visual and fucking badass . tl ; dr tengu fleets are go!

    New ships modules - T3 destroyers fap fap fap. Orbital bombardment mod AWW YEA "I AM DEATH'S SMILING FACE". Salvager drones "Much rejoicing of Jews"

    War-Dec rework - Closing dec shield loopholes etc. Not a ton of specific details except Eve Ui supported merc contracts "Maybe you can hire the A-team"

    Web based and API stuff - idgi not enough image macros for me to understand but basically we will end up being sents tommorow. "Hoping to be dazzled"!
    Your read on unifex and veritas is spot on.

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    I'm at work, somebody tell me if the bomb launchers looked cool

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    Has anybody done any theorycrafting on how the new micro jump drives would be used for fleet warfare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warband View Post
    Has anybody done any theorycrafting on how the new micro jump drives would be used for fleet warfare?
    I've heard two rumors floating around:

    1) The drive provides a 100km boost in whatever direction you were heading.
    2) The drive lets you lock onto a target outside of your normal lock range, and after a spool-up, you can warp to them. So like instead of that Taranis in the one video flying towards the bad guys, you just ultra-lock them and dash into range.

    I don't really like either of these ideas, as I think long-range warfare needs to not get shit on more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warband View Post
    Has anybody done any theorycrafting on how the new micro jump drives would be used for fleet warfare?

    With the new mjd and the new mjd bubbles, it might just make sniping camps a little better. Dunno about actual fleet stuff until more details come out.

    edit: The Chaos dump of the bubbles and the mjd module look interesting. 77 cpu is a lot though.

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    CCP Unifex - Competent PROFESSIONAL. I got the feel this guy is the man that made the blueprint that transformed CCP from a ADHD office pool of malcontents to a finely tuned society of worker bees.

    CCP Veritas - Literally the coolest CCP Dev I'd let him fuck my sister. ( he straight owns the shit out of lag ) Also starting work on CCP server multi-threading "turbo-nerds rejoice"
    Stoffer gets a shout out as well, but yea Veritas is a fucking genius.

    I liked the old venue better, you could bring your beer in to the lectures back there. More homely I guess.

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    Likely done to keep Bolton's liver intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    Stoffer gets a shout out as well, but yea Veritas is a fucking genius.

    I liked the old venue better, you could bring your beer in to the lectures back there. More homely I guess.
    Speaking of its growing size; how is the Fanfest affecting other economic branches in Iceland, respectively what's the general population thinking about the nerd-invasion (from an economic point of view).
    I could imagine that especially the hotel and gastronomy branch is rather appreciative of it, but how about the rest?
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Attachment 2704

    Best thing: Mittens' smug levels have increased to the extent that he's undergone mitosis and created a double.

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    Well, Hilmar says that taxi drivers come up to him personally and thank him for having the fanfest on off tourist time. I have seen a few mentions on the online media and I heard one radio show talk about it. I think most Icelanders dont have a clue that fanfest is even going on.

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    Most interesting thing so far has been the alliance leader panel. The No Holes Bared presentation was fantastic.

    Worst is that I had no one to go with so I've been that guy that tries to tag along with an already established circle of friends.


    Anyone wana do a kugu shitposter meetup tomorrow?

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    My corp had about 10 guys showing up, half Icelanders. Phantom for the win, had nice chat with Cerys Magente, was glad she remembered the old times.

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    I liked the overlay of the universe and where things were built.


    The empty south, the drone regions, and the delve area had huge amounts of materials being built, of course none of this touched empire, which positively dwarfed the rest of the games production. But the most interesting part, was the CFC is noted for having the 'hub of life' tag in 0.0, this is the relative home of the largest concentration of players in 0.0, but they had over all almost no production.

    Not that there was no production, because there was some, but it was so incredibly minute compared to the more empty regions of the game.


    This points to a problem, the CFCs player base should be motivated to build in their space, but they're not doing that. They're aware that building in empire and importing shit is infinitely more agreeable due to the ease of logistics with jump freighters and jump bridge routes.

    The markets there are well stocked, but little if any of it is built internally, its shipped in and stocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    I liked the overlay of the universe and where things were built.


    The empty south, the drone regions, and the delve area had huge amounts of materials being built, of course none of this touched empire, which positively dwarfed the rest of the games production. But the most interesting part, was the CFC is noted for having the 'hub of life' tag in 0.0, this is the relative home of the largest concentration of players in 0.0, but they had over all almost no production.

    Not that there was no production, because there was some, but it was so incredibly minute compared to the more empty regions of the game.


    This points to a problem, the CFCs player base should be motivated to build in their space, but they're not doing that. They're aware that building in empire and importing shit is infinitely more agreeable due to the ease of logistics with jump freighters and jump bridge routes.

    The markets there are well stocked, but little if any of it is built internally, its shipped in and stocked.
    That might be because a hi-sec system like Nonni probably has more production capacity than the whole of Deklein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    That might be because a hi-sec system like Nonni probably has more production capacity than the whole of Deklein
    Isn't that

    A) A problem the other regions should suffer from too (but didn't appear to)?

    and

    B) something thats fixable by dropping and upgrading a few factory outposts?



    Like I'm not sure if you saw the thing but the difference was pretty large between the area from Fountain to Branch, when held against the whole rest of the game.


    EDIT: Curiosity is 100% serious, I literally haven't done any actual building since me and you were in Paragon Soul

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    Is there a copy of this overlay anywhere?

    Edit: Maybe it doesn't show anything on the side of the CFC, but more on the side of the rest of the nullsec population. It's not that we don't produce in nullsec, but that they do! Why do it when producing in highsec is simply so much more profitable and easier?

    It's something that needs to be fixed, sure, but it's the same as tech moons or titan usage. It's broken, and people will use it until it's fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    I liked the overlay of the universe and where things were built.


    The empty south, the drone regions, and the delve area had huge amounts of materials being built, of course none of this touched empire, which positively dwarfed the rest of the games production. But the most interesting part, was the CFC is noted for having the 'hub of life' tag in 0.0, this is the relative home of the largest concentration of players in 0.0, but they had over all almost no production.

    Not that there was no production, because there was some, but it was so incredibly minute compared to the more empty regions of the game.


    This points to a problem, the CFCs player base should be motivated to build in their space, but they're not doing that. They're aware that building in empire and importing shit is infinitely more agreeable due to the ease of logistics with jump freighters and jump bridge routes.

    The markets there are well stocked, but little if any of it is built internally, its shipped in and stocked.
    There are singular systems in highsec that have more production capability than all of Deklein.

    To be frank, the singular station-service system is what hampers it in nullsec. All the moving and shaking just to get shit built that can be done with one warp and in some cases, all in one station in Empire.

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    Funny thing re: Dek, there's one man who may largely be responsible for that.
    [05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    The markets there are well stocked, but little if any of it is built internally, its shipped in and stocked.
    I'm actually one of those who build some things internally, although that's more because I have access to production lines which aren't constantly clogged by others, or require effort in moving stuff around. The fact you generally can't refine and build in the same station is also a bitch.

    Which means that I'm building some things, but I'm pretty fucking far from caring to build every damn module for the ships, the vast majority I'll have shipped in. There are limits to how much I'll want to cut my fucking wrists just to save an isk here or there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Isn't that

    A) A problem the other regions should suffer from too (but didn't appear to)?

    and

    B) something thats fixable by dropping and upgrading a few factory outposts?



    Like I'm not sure if you saw the thing but the difference was pretty large between the area from Fountain to Branch, when held against the whole rest of the game.


    EDIT: Curiosity is 100% serious, I literally haven't done any actual ubuilding since me and you were in Paragon Soul
    Nonni has about seventeen stations, and npc stations beat the hell out of outposts

    Also I bet that a large fraction of that drone region production was csaa based

    Vibrant CSAAs ofc

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    Fanfest [s]Iceland[/s] smells like farts

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    tl;dr nerd shit

    go out (not to fanfest) and get laid, virginz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    Also I bet that a large fraction of that drone region production was csaa based
    Visually, the south looked the same as the drone regions, as did delve, in terms of production, so evidently Vibrant south as well ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by penifSMASH View Post
    tl;dr nerd shit

    go out (not to fanfest) and get laid, virginz
    says the man with the mega man avatar on an internet spaceship forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    3 of the other presenters were cfc members recapping previous fanfest's presentation and patting themselves on the back over the north.
    The GENTS guy didn't present last year. He was good, but just kept going and going.

    And uh...Bolton and Mittens didn't recap jack shit. Both of them drunkenly yelled that they weren't just going to explain their alliance history again. Did you even watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Visually, the south looked the same as the drone regions, as did delve, in terms of production, so evidently Vibrant south as well ~

    Obviously the south would have more industry, given its proximity to fuck all but I don't know why, for example, fountain should have less than delve. Difference in culture perhaps but it is far, far easier to just ship and sell then to try and gather the raw resources in nullsec needed for production.
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    Obviously the south would have more industry, given its proximity to fuck all but I don't know why, for example, fountain should have less than delve. Difference in culture perhaps but it is far, far easier to just ship and sell then to try and gather the raw resources in nullsec needed for production.
    I've tried to do this a few times, it's just an annoying amount of effort comparatively.

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    From Jita to the C0nvicted pocket at the top of branch takes around 8 minutes according to some of our JF dudes so there is just no point at all to really try and build anything ourselves (also mining is gay).



    Also are any of the events on posted on youtube yet? I've only seen the Dust and missile stuff so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    I liked the overlay of the universe and where things were built.


    The empty south, the drone regions, and the delve area had huge amounts of materials being built, of course none of this touched empire, which positively dwarfed the rest of the games production. But the most interesting part, was the CFC is noted for having the 'hub of life' tag in 0.0, this is the relative home of the largest concentration of players in 0.0, but they had over all almost no production.
    Well this is because the CFC has coordinated alliance-level logistics along with its reimbursement funds and collectively have access to more jump-capable transport as a result, while the southern equivalent is Archibald Hornby via eve-mail sperging at the 3-4 guys random null industry enthusiasts supplying the alliance with fleet fits for charging 10% over jita price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky D View Post
    Well this is because the CFC has coordinated alliance-level logistics along with its reimbursement funds and collectively have access to more jump-capable transport, while the southern equivalent is Archibald Hornby via eve-mail sperging at the 3-4 guys random supplying the alliance with fleet fits for charging 10% over jita price.
    not really, have you seen the CFC switch fleet to drakefleet due to lack of Maelstrom hulls and the begging of their members to buy multibillion isk Maelstrom BPOs (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by penifSMASH View Post
    not really, have you seen the CFC switch fleet to drakefleet due to lack of Maelstrom hulls
    Hi. You're dumb and wrong. Hope that helps.

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    guys guys we lost 3 titans worth of Maelstroms in 72 hours, the market is all bought out and our idiot jews keep getting ganked in high sec, please import your own maelstrom BPOs and/or use a markedly inferior and discarded fleet doctrine l0l

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    I've never run out of maelstroms to put and keep up on contract (i.e. I'm one of the suppliers) during that time. In other words, you're still dumb and wrong.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Belgium is the place with the incest dungeons, right?
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jimmychrist again.

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    well Jita is closer to the north so alone that gives the Northerner entity's a nice advantage when you compare to the south. its twice the amount of JF jumps to go from Jita to c3n in delve then it is to go from Jita to BKG in branch.

    though i still think its less effort to actually buy shit in jita and stock the market then it is to actually manufacture yourself even in the south.

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    Man why would you live in C3N and not NOL or JP4 or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton Banks View Post
    Man why would you live in C3N and not NOL or JP4 or something
    Why sleep on the sofa when there's a bed in the next room

    (4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod

    (11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test

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    Power was meant to be abused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iratus View Post
    Salvaging drones have me pissed off. Farewell to ninja salvaging, farewell to helping newbies by having them clean the field after you, farewell to the noctis being remotely used... basically, salvaging was losing profitability before, now it's pretty much dead.

    Unless they are like... super nerfed salvagers, they screw up big time there.
    You're predicating your argument on the assumption that salvage drones will be any good.

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    penifsmash is spouting stupid bullshit again? color me surprised

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