Why not just rewrite the code for them?Originally Posted by Weaselior
Why not just rewrite the code for them?
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
No no, I wasn't quite clear here. I'm thinking of the capital sized focused point idea that was floated for supercarriers to use.
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
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Well my corp owns like 3 titans never did we used them in battle , I'm all for a logistic platform , as for grath ideas i don't see how making it a death star in any way will prevent it from being a pwanmobile really , eitheir way i know for sure CCP woint do that shit:
-1 One because they donīt have the "manpower" as they said it.
- 2 Titans were going to be like that in the beginning but they changed them and rushed them because they couldnīt code something better.
I would rather CCP changed how sov works , because titans ,supers are all tied to that and it probably is a better way and safer too do it.
To the people advocating remove them , i donīt really think CCP will do that ,because that would clusterfuck everyone and their mother , and they never have done something like that , and i really think that doesnt solve shit but mhe..
Yeah, CCP has never ever ever fucked over a large segment of their player base. Ever.
Confirming: Titan pilots are a large segment of their player/payer base.
In 0.0, absolutely. And you can ask PL how they enjoyed the faction tower stuff. And the moon goo changes. Etc.
By Removing a ship class?When was this exactly?
Hey, how are you enjoying dread combat these days?
How about motherships pre-dominion? Motherships post-(winter is coming)-nerf?
Titan AOE?
CCP has a long and proud history of fucking over their PVP capital pilots. (PVE carrier pilots intentionally left out)
He didn't specify, but his point is (if I'm understanding it right) is that maybe CCP hasn't removed entire ship classes, but they have done things in the past to totally fuck over a large number of their subscribers.
If you seriously don't consider the massive amount of titans in game as a "large segment of their player base" your nuts...For some alliances maybe they can afford to have boat loads of characters in titans, but alot of alliances are forced to save isk to be able to afford corp, or even alliance titans..Which means serious changes to the titans will have an effect on more then just the pilots.
*waits for neg rep/trolls*
Hey, i managed to scrape together isk for both aeon and avatar while living in PROVIDENCE of all places (no moon isk). If I can personally fund supercapitals (plus normal caps), then anyone can. Blaming it on "poor region, poor alliance, poor meeeeee" is just weak.
Guess my point is; anyone can field supers instead of going "whaaawhaaa only peeps with tech trees can field supers, so CCP save us".
I suppose my only question is, how much time where you able to spend in game/how long did it take to make the isk to buy your own supers? \
I cant deny how stupid my first post seems when looking back at recent conversations pertaining to incursions/etc and the amount of isk anyone should be able to make now...But some of us have no interest in spending our time in game saving up for a single ship(and I do realize this post changes my first post considerably...but).
How long did it take you, in actual ingame hours, and how long would it take for you to get back in the fight if you were to lose said ships?
Just join one of Horus' corps and he'll have you in a titan in no time.
Learn the difference between exacerbate and exasperate and then learn when it's a good idea when to use ~words~ to make yourself sound smarter and when it's smart to use words you know the meaning of. Or for the love of Christ stop using them wrong over and over again.
Then we'll talk about stupid ok?
Anyway the premise of the original argument still holds. You're wrong and nerfing titans won't lead to greater production given comparable substitutes.
tgr: well, it took a while before I got into the isk making mode, just fucking around like everyone else. But once decided to make isk I was making 1-2b per day profit.
I could prolly get back into that mode if I felt like it to replace a lost super, but that means logging in. Point is, its not THAT much hassle once you focus. 1-2 hours per day for a while and you are a proud owner of a nerfed titan.
I would like to know what you were doing to get 1b per hour.
The jokes just write themselves.
Well, im not gonna go into detail, but there are things in eve you can do that will make you isk after you log off.. Not really hard, or so I like to think.
Then again, anything requiring a bit of effort is a no go, so ppl just go an moan "I cant afford this shit, game is broken".
Does your bot really require 1-2 hours of babysitting per day?
So a month for a super and 3-4 months for a titan. I guess the war'll wait while you grind up a new super or titan and get it built.
^^ winning the prize for the most suprising and original reply on kugu.
EDIT: ye, something like that tgr. When I see people playing since 2006 or whatever still moaning about the price of battleships, then its a mentality problem. Everything has to become
effortless.
It might come as an suprise, but what you think is wrong.
Well if it 'makes you isk after you log off' it's either botting, or market trading.
I don't think market trading is that profitable so I'll assume you mean botting.
Depends on what your trading....
So, basically, every time one of them are knocked out, they're out of the running for 1-4 months, which is a very serious blow to your warmaking ability if you're basing a majority of your fleet around supercarriers and/or titans, which means that if one side is properly welped, they're effectively out of the running for that long, or longer if people can't be arsed to grind up another one or even be subbed because they lost their super.
Which brings me back to the concept of sustainable warfare.
"Guys guys I can make a bil an hour anyone can so GRARHARGBLARGH"
"Yeah, that sounds unlikely, how do you get a bil per hour?"
"I can't tell you it's a secret but trust me guys it can be done and therefore GRARHARGBLARGH"
This is some Scientology level bullshit. I bet you he's got a book or something he's gearing up to plug.
If I had kept doing what I did from when I got my supers, I would have been able to replace said supers instantly. And looking at how much time people spend ONLINE/INGAME doing fuck all, they could have stockpiled isk if they even used a fraction of that online time somewhat focused.
Jimmy; hardly a sekrit that market/trading is profitable, and I said "per day", not "per hour".
You said you spent 1-2 hours a day and made 1-2bil, that's more or less per hour.
I can say to you that my little corp (20 guys more or less) went on a rampage and started to save money to a tit ,tax 100% all 10/10 loot to corp etc etc, took us 30 days more or less.
If we lost him in pvp i reckon it would take us more 30 days or more to save for one .
PS.I know we are alll pretty shitty doing money but hey
Yes, cause the market stops to work when I log off.
Your mixing it up with this
Ok so who should I believe? The random redbar pubbie with 54 posts; none of which I can remember - or the guy who flies supercaps in PL, has a history (several thousand posts) on kugu of being a good poster who has proven again and again he knows his shit. Consider that and then realize how conceited and foolish it looks for you to say he's wrong and to call him out on his posting.
And for the record I'm not whiteknighting Grath, I'm just trying to keep you from being his next piece of roadkill. (Why do I even try?)
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
You revel in the schadenfreude of denying us the entertainment it would produce?
You know, the funny thing about your defense, is though I used the word wrong you still know what I meant.
The fact that my mis use of a word was your only defense to what I said makes you look like more of an asshole than you already do.
Titans will still kill subcaps after the nerf, so if you have a few titans now, or even a lot of titans, and they're going to be slightly diminished in power, but still relatively effective in large groups, what would you do with your titans?
Oh, whats that? In a total shocker you would obtain as many as you can to add to the safety of the herd?
Well shit I guess you really are a fucking retard then aren't you.
Did I use all those words to your satisfaction dip shit?
Look at all these posts...
Could you imagine if CCP removed the turret hardpoints from Titans? Kugu might melt...
It would be progress towards the stated goal (also titans USED to not have turrents, smartbomb prices took a shit when they added them)
ECM BURSTING SMARTBOMBING TITAN BATTLEBALL YOU SAY? What could go wrong?
I cant afford a titan, because if the titan dies I cant afford another titan
How many would you think I need to afford before I can afford one?
You're missing the point.
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this kovacs guy is full of it
if i pve for 4 hours per day i still cant buy a titan
50m an hour x 4 hours = 200m x 30 days = 6000 x 10 months = MAYBE A LEVI OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
or maybe hes talking about post patch prices vv
Get into a good incursion group, run 4 hours a day at 180-200 mil an hour, problem solved.this kovacs guy is full of it
if i pve for 4 hours per day i still cant buy a titan
50m an hour x 4 hours = 200m x 30 days = 6000 x 10 months = MAYBE A LEVI OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
or maybe hes talking about post patch prices v
Its just that as soon as you get your 2nd titan ppl tend to forget how hard it was to get the 1st one. And then they talk bsthis kovacs guy is full of it
if i pve for 4 hours per day i still cant buy a titan
50m an hour x 4 hours = 200m x 30 days = 6000 x 10 months = MAYBE A LEVI OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
or maybe hes talking about post patch prices v
mfume already shit all over my incursion dreams
i shall just leave the nerfed brown officerfit spacedicks to the big boys
I find it phenomenal that anyone could look at the short time that we have on this earth and consider spending four hours a day for a third of a year clicking the same, endlessly repeated pattern of little red boxes. No hint of a troll. Read some books. Post on some forums. Take your dog on a walk. Anything.
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They most likely be doing it at work.
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It's something to do with the mouse when all I feel like doing is chatting
Why do you retards have the idea that anyone should be able to afford a titan?
2006 called they want their outdated sensibilities back
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