Sometimes I wish I could just outright put some people on ignore. Bonus would be if it'd remove responses to said person.
Sometimes I wish I could just outright put some people on ignore. Bonus would be if it'd remove responses to said person.
Calling Jeffraider and Vonq to the stand.Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt
I know this is currently trending as an infractable offense (empty quoting) But I've got to repeat this to show my support.
Maybe change the language on the report page? The current language seems to to only indicate it's to be used for spam and other NSFW types post.
And upon further investigation, it looks like you guys have tweaked the language on the report page from what I remember it.
[Arrador] possesses a considerable understanding of ship configurations, strengths and weakness. He gives clear and purposeful instructions, is good at taking advantage of the fleet-composition he's dealt, and never loses sight of the main goal: fun. This, paired with an excellent tolerance for strong drink gives him an almost Churchillian capability to win, despite being completely pissed on booze most of the fleet operation.
You'd love that wouldnt you?Throw away the rep/vote system, focus on game content and ban derailers.
there shouldn't even be a discussion about this, since when kugu became a democracy?
To add to what people have said, the rep system, thought flawed, is part of what makes kugu, kugu. A few minor adjustments may be needed, but I think the rep needs to stay at least in some way shape or form.
I thought we could. I swear I've blocked someone before.
I disagree, (INFRACTED). No seriously, I'm grouching maybe a little too much over this when I see a mod swoop into a forum after long activity and infact a bunch of guys for what (?), I would like some consistency and infractions for the right reasons.
On a seperate point, how comes I cant see people's green bars anymore (for a while now), is it just me?
I can only assume this is due to many complaints from people about said gas ops. So they log in, infract some of the morons fueling the fire, and then say "job well done". Like was said above, they can only infract posts that are reported, if people dont use the report post function they wont see it. It's literally impossible to keep up with every thread on this site 24/7
Real Edit: This being said, maybe once the changes are done, a post be made emphaszing that people use (bot not abuse) the report post function.
No it isn't, just get more moderators that are active. Maybe not moderators, you could create a role that is below a moderator that is given to players with say 1000+ posts and a high R/P. Slightly less power but still the ability to still keep a thread on the rails.
Inconsistent modding over time because the modders themselves are either burning out or doing other things IRL is not the same as inconsistent modding based on the infracting poster's in-game allegiance. It's good to avoid both but the latter is active forums poison while the former is merely irritating.
E: giving protomod powers to people with high rep and rep/post will just lead to certain groups circlejerking specific people into power and then slamming others down. Basically, whatever change you're thinking of making, you have to say "How can I abuse this?" and then assume the worst case.
Yes, give people like me modding power. Nothing could go wrong.
As far as dictators go I'm a fairly benevolent man
This already happens for rep (looking at you goon/pl), which arguably means there is a problem with that - although I have no idea of an alternative - you could surely make decision to increase mod numbers?
.inirevir naBThrow away the rep/vote system, focus on game content and ban derailers.
there shouldn't even be a discussion about this, since when kugu became a democracy?
I'd like to see en24 wordfiltered so you can't link to it from here, much like kugu is on eo.com
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I have a few ideas...
[spoiler=Firstly...]Prevent people from seeing who repped them. This would solve a whole wealth of problems, by stemming any circlejerking (the only people then who could circlejerk would be people who actually arrange circlejerks externally, and they are not be ostracised, but pitied (by the by don't look at the Zulu Squad group's "How to take over the Forum with Circlejerking in One Easy Step!" discussion :frogstare: )), and by protecting people's super important rep points from retaliatory revenge negreps (yes, it happens), allowing people to more freely express their disapproval of posts without fear of backlash, even and especially when they are criticising someone with high rep power.
Beyond that, I can't see any solely constructive measures you could take to overhaul the rep system. A reset of rep points might be a necessary prerequisite to the above change, but it might not - but I'll say that anything that drives more people to generate more content can only be good. This stance might seem hypocritical coming from a
circlejerking, low-content shitposter who has been called out as such (hi db t you have offended me I shall revenge myself), but I for one would honestly rather receive 20 negreps calling me out as a vapid rep-whore than 20 people who find my latest pun hilarious (although It's nice to get recognition for my hard-worked puns), because then at least I can see the flurry of red marks expressing distaste for said post and think "hold on, this is a bad post. Why is this a bad post? What can I do to stop making bad posts such as this?". THIS is when the rep system works as intended, when it is being used as a metric of how good a post is, rather than how good the poster is (at least how good they are at making friends).[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Secondly...] I would suggest that you redirect anyone creating a new account to the Hratli's guide to posting thread. Granted, not all of the shitposters are 2011/2012 reg, but a lot are. This would go some way to alleviate the volume of sperg leaking onto the forum (hell I should re-read it more often). This same approach could also be taken when a user reaches a certain number of Infarctions or negreps in a short period of time (hell, you could even set the number of infarctions needed to trigger this to "One"), if it's not too tricky to code. Unfortunately, making people read an (admittedly well crafted) introductory essay could be akin to an End User License Agreement (problem being ; no-one reads the fucking things) but I'd argue that if you don't want to read a forum post, why are you making an account on Kugutsumen Dot Com : An Internet Forum about EVE Online?[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Thirdly...] give Malaclypse some kind of medal for running, and being active on, Kugu Jabber. Don't let the fact that I love the duder and he is one of select few "Internet People" that I have added on Steam impinge on my gushing of his dedication. Perhaps even more deserving of plaudits is Lake, who provides the service (and mensch that he is, doesn't charge). Tangential to this, I would also suggest legitimising the jabber channel a bit more (having Kugu mods moderate it? making it accessible by non-foreplay members?), as has been suggested earlier in the thread.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Finally...]make me group owner of The Kugutsumen Karma Mafia group - RansomList is still AWOL and our power wanes daily[/spoiler]
I'd like to add my support of the removal of the influence of post count on rep power, but not of reg date - old timers need something to make them feel special, whereas encouraging people to follow my example and cram 4,000 + posts into a single year (what am I doing with my time) is not something anyone wants. I'd also like to add that I could think of worse moderators than DurrHurrDurr, who, despite his reputation in EVE and his... vibrancy on the CFC's VoIP servers, is a level-headed "Gudpoaster" on this forum.
More emotes stolen from SomethingAwful would be nice, we need at least :frogout:, and conversely, the removal of: would be welcome (
+
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I can't think of anything else right now, but I just wrote a few thousand words about an internet spaceship forum so I'm sure I'll be able to shoehorn some more in...
First:
Never do this for me, thousands and thousands of things would instantly start going wrong. After all, power is granted to people so they can abuse it.
Second:
Throw away the rep/vote system, focus on game content and ban derailers.
there shouldn't even be a discussion about this, since when kugu became a democracy?
Go fuck yourself nobody here likes you or cares what you think would make this a better place. Now post more about your page views and other dumb shit on your site where you censor out anything thats actually accurate.
Grath for Admin, 2012.
>Full breakdown of what the colors of peoples names mean.
>What titles are attained based on rep/post count.
>Colors would be nice, I like pink.
>More emotes too.
Most of the titles are based on science fiction novels (The Mote in God's Eye, Mona Lisa Overdrive, etc).
My signature is invaluable for sending the message that everyone should blanda upp
A simple image like that is fine, and its size is a-okay. Didn't mean to be nit-picky towards anyone if I came off that way.
Some sigs are way overpowering, one i can think of off the top of my head is Xystances.
OH GOD I JUST +REPPED RIVERINI ACCIDENTALY!Please, someone correct that mistake for me.
This would be a good adition, the hability to remove a mistakenly appiled +/- rep.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hChYV.png[/IMG]
"Every rifter counts friend" - VR
I second this.OH GOD I JUST +REPPED RIVERINI ACCIDENTALY!
This would be a good adition, the hability to remove a mistakenly appiled +/- rep.
Yeah but I remember reading that getting the title isn't based just on post count or rep, but a combination of both. I'd like to see what titles are out there and what's needed to obtain them.
There is a post out there somewhere which describes the rep power system but it is very dated and not entirely accurate anymore (I dont think). A new post should be made with, like you said, titles, name colors, etc etc.
Clearly Kugu needs an achievements system.
Clearly Kugu needs an achievements system.
The ultimate one being "Achievement Unlocked: Cause River to Ragequit"
Pretty sure Vinata made that decision and is making moves towards getting more active mods.
I'd say the rep system is pretty much working as intended.
I've had fun with this account, pissed a few folks off, made some others laugh, and the rep feedback let me know when the use-by date on the gimmick was up.
People who don't learn from their negative feedback earn themselves red bars, and rightly so. What is less noticeable are the people whose posting improves with time because they are paying attention.
peace out, Kugu
[I][SIZE=2]content-free posting since 2012[/SIZE][/I]
no i'm getting this too.
sry for off topic, back to the show
Ya that needs to be fixed
I ragequitted long time ago when vinata started changing the picture for ponies, when I learned to the way of the Bro-ny and embraced my pony heritage.
I think a lot of progress was made by moving the SRS BSN forum link up.
I accidentally end up reading serious discussions
I think vast improvements could be made to the forum by disallowing riverini use the psyduck emote.
SDF is a bit more prominent now, of course it becomes slightly redundant when people get their EOU threads moved there in an attempt to hide under the cover of moderation.
For smaller improvements I really like this, I still have no idea what the name colors mean in the slightest.
I think you should be able to see who had given you a plus rep, I get a warm feeling when I am Agathor'd, I think it would be a really good idea to hide name of neg reps though it would take away the backlash available to high power posters and there somewhat invisiblility
Empty quoting isn't an infractable offense.
It is just post count, although some people were given the freedom to change theirs at will, or had a mod change it for them.
The rep system hasn't been changed since then. Name colors are based upon user groups. Admins are purple because that's my favorite color.
Xutech and I have agreed on three people, are tenuous on a fourth, and are discussing a fifth. We'll be contacting them soon.
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
OK, Vin... Should I be trying to figure out what esadgfhn is code for? Because my need to OCD my way to knowing will make me crazier than Vonq on a coke binge.
Just hit the left half of the home row, since you know what you did.
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
I'm not whining and I'm not pretending ignorance of my misbehavior. I was just making sure I didn't have to decode what you typed.
I deserved your righteous vengeance.
I like home rowing people. Just straight up asdfghjkl
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
I don't know if this has been posted before (if it has, sorry, I'll see myself out) but why not make reps disappear after a certain amount of time? It would help get some of the newer posters who post tons of content to the level that some of the older posters who don't post nearly as much content. I feel like there's a tendency to just stop trying with most of your posts after a certain rep level. Imo people who used to be amazing posters shouldn't be considered better than some of the newer posters who actually are posting content and contributing now.
Another thing it could fix would be the situation where if I post something from a new guy's point of view or just something that differs from the usual Kugu opinion, I won't get negrepped into oblivion because the older users with more rep don't agree with me. Even if the newer users agree with it, I'll still end up red because of the rep superstars on the forum.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on this, I almost never post here but I've been reading the forums for around half a year, maybe more now.
If we are coming down on content-less posts then empty quoting should be infractable.
Some times a quote, or a jpeg or a video clip can be a perfect response. I would rather see a few content free posts than worry about being infracted because a mod has a different idea of what constitutes 'content'
This post happily existed in all possible states before you observed it. Now it has collapsed into a single state.
I hope you're satisfied, fuckwad
I think I would make a fine mod.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
I've been cracking down on it in SDF since that's serious business. Here? I guess that'd be fine, but I haven't thought much about it. "Not emptyquoting" is pretty much the same thing as emptyquoting, so we'd have to crack down on that too.
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
Oh and Don Peyote and Doink are the first of our new mods.
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
Vinata, if the rules grow complex all your time will go to handling appeals of your mods' actions because they won't be interpreted consistently
and the posting will be very little improved for all the effort
This post happily existed in all possible states before you observed it. Now it has collapsed into a single state.
I hope you're satisfied, fuckwad
The rules have grown less complex over time because there was a small mod rebellion once I had to introduce flowcharts.
?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"
What you guys are doing now seems fine to me. I got a warning because I did one of those "You cannot rep X because you must spread around rep blah blah" posts, and it was a justified warning.
I think the moderation level is just right, overmoderation will kill a forum community much faster than a handful of shitposters will, in my experience.
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