I ignored them for that count, both on the numbers they brought and their memberbase - no fucking way I'm keeping track of all their various serfs and other hoi polloiOriginally Posted by Grim
I ignored them for that count, both on the numbers they brought and their memberbase - no fucking way I'm keeping track of all their various serfs and other hoi polloi
Except even if they got 40% that doesn't necessarily mean they would have bigger fleets.
We have a fuckton of dudes and we bring a fuckton of dudes. They have admittedly less but still have a lot of fucking dudes. They don't bring very many dudes.
Progod, despite what people here seem to believe, I think you are a cool dude and should join BUSA if you get tired of running away.
SoCo, take the plugs out of your ears, undo the blindfolds and just take a look at DotLan sometime....
It is PURE FACT that this is over! I wouldn't be surprised if we roll right through PB within a week. I just still don't understand ANY of this patting each-other on the backs over losing 2 regions, with a 3rd not too far away...
And, if you think somewhere in your diseased recesses of what passes for a human brain that you will be back in what 2-4 months to take back this space, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't think anyone in SoCo is claiming that its still a war at this point. Its more damage control to try to mask the smell of stale feces emanating from the remains of their coalition.
Malc, not arguing with your percentages, but think about the other side.
According to Endie's number, CFC got about 22% participation in Delve. Are you telling us that the people who lived there couldn't match the percentage of pilots that the CFC brought in the last two weeks?
BUT IT HASNT EVEN STARTED YET~~~
I feel bad just typing that, how can they go as far as believe it...
Hurf Blurf, you will never have your space again now that the CFC controls it! This has never been said before, and Catch is definitely not a good example of how space can be taken back from a neighboring NPC region.
Fact is that SoCo will never die, and will just follow -A- and PK's vision of a long, protracted war that will eventually end in SoCo victory. Cowards like s2n, and losing a few regions have made that victory a little bit further down the road, but rest assured that under -A- leadership victory will be assured.
-A- fighting!
Wait what? Is this a troll account?
You guys are so fucked.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
We hope, but honestly don't much care either way.
ohmygod i think he's srs. well, Le'Blob, we were tired of running away. It's why we left you fellasHurf Blurf, you will never have your space again now that the CFC controls it! This has never been said before, and Catch is definitely not a good example of how space can be taken back from a neighboring NPC region.
Fact is that SoCo will never die, and will just follow -A- and PK's vision of a long, protracted war that will eventually end in SoCo victory. Cowards like s2n, and losing a few regions have made that victory a little bit further down the road, but rest assured that under -A- leadership victory will be assured.
-A- fighting!
still not convinced this isn't a gimmick account
It has to be a gimmick account.
Actually, there is another possible explanation.
It could be Blaster Worm
Look, I am going to go ahead and assume that this is a rather poor troll, but I am responding anyway.Hurf Blurf, you will never have your space again now that the CFC controls it! This has never been said before, and Catch is definitely not a good example of how space can be taken back from a neighboring NPC region.
Fact is that SoCo will never die, and will just follow -A- and PK's vision of a long, protracted war that will eventually end in SoCo victory. Cowards like s2n, and losing a few regions have made that victory a little bit further down the road, but rest assured that under -A- leadership victory will be assured.
-A- fighting!
Given that the CFC is blue to everyone within 50 jumps, how much poking do you think it will take by -A- to attract a response by thousands of bored neck beards with nothing better to do? We have no real threats against us anymore, so someone actually showing up to fight is going to be a big thing. Here is what is going to happen: you and your "coalition" are going to slink off to stain and get hell camped for a solid month while we stick our dicks in catch. When you make any attempt to take it back, you will have a thousand angry goons on your shit inside of an hour because the eye of terror will extend to within a single jump of catch if not further in. There will literally be nothing left for us to do than dumpster your shit every time you undock more than a rifter.
Hope this helps.
This cockroach mentality (you may beat the shit out of us over and over for months but we'll keep spinning in station!) doesn't mesh well with the ~elite pvp~ alliance image that AAA puts forth. Jus sayin'Hurf Blurf, you will never have your space again now that the CFC controls it! This has never been said before, and Catch is definitely not a good example of how space can be taken back from a neighboring NPC region.
Fact is that SoCo will never die, and will just follow -A- and PK's vision of a long, protracted war that will eventually end in SoCo victory. Cowards like s2n, and losing a few regions have made that victory a little bit further down the road, but rest assured that under -A- leadership victory will be assured.
-A- fighting!
Any coalition that allows Fiberton the "AFK Aeon Drifter" into their command channels deserves to lose space.
I am not sure what you are talking about. As I demonstrated in a previous post, -A- and SoCo pilots are all within the top 10 pvpers on EVE-Kill, and the same goes for top alliances as well. -A- tactics have clearly shown that they are more then capable of dealing with the NC blob that has descended upon Delve, despite the huge numbers difference (Who's the cockroach now?). Just because you don't like -A-'s tactics doesn't mean they aren't highly effective; next you will be drawing parallels between how -A-'s tactics are just like cloaky afking in your sanctums, and how it is both unfair and unproductive. The simple reality is that when it comes down to the wire, the tactics and strategms being employed against the NC/CFC are simply too much for all these northern bears to deal with. And remember, God Forgives, -A- Does Not.
Ok, you spoiled it. You're trying way too hard. You've got to make it believable at least.
I'm going with paint-thinner, bath salts, or just a really bad effort to troll.
Im starting to see this as more of a shitty gimmick, but whatver.
When I checked this morning Goons and TEST were #1 and #3 on evekill. That does not mean they are amazing pvpers.
You have not succesfully defended a single timer. I didnt realize -A- had deployed to gatecamp.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
I don't think many ppl from SoCo are saying anything here. It's literally CFC guys arguing with CFC troll accounts, for about 100 pages..........
And here's how relevant KB stats are. According to the venerable board you just cited: I am the top killer for GoonWaffe. I am a 2 month old newbee with 3mil SP. So according to your reasoning, I must be the top pvper in my corp! The only thing those boards can show accurately is activity. Try again son.
Troll or not, they bear a startling resemblance to the logs posted at the start of this thread.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
Eh, there is the odd Nulli poster trying to recover some dignity, and that one wallpaper guy being shobon as fuck.
Hey I'm #8 for Top Killers in Waffles this month, and my attendance record this month has been absolute shit! o:
Its because you have too many blues m8
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
FTFY.
It is possible that they are all in the top because they whore on each other killmails. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&...l_id=40&page=2
aaa's tactics have only worked because nobody cared enough to live in catch (init doesnt count)
I'l take my bottom 5000 pvp'ers over your top 10 any day of the week to be honest.
Using area of effect weapons against your own guys is a Makalu approved method for climbing those killboard rankings.FTFY.
That sounds good to me man just go with it
#1 PvPer should net you some kind of medal or something
Okay who's the dumbass who decided it would be a brilliant idea to dispense their own form of justice and go to the EVE-O forums and post these logs in t3h name of RMTeh!
I'm agree with you that -A- and co didn't have the best participation they could have, don't get me wrong there. Nulli outnumbered or matched numbers with -A- in quite a few fights, and considering they are twice our size, that just shouldn't be happening. I've seen -A- max out fleets before on a daily basis, so its obvious their full numbers weren't here. However, I was merely commenting on the faulty statistical techniques used by endie there, and then offering my own little nursery rhyme for what is a very generic baseline number for most alliances when it comes to CCP participation. Apparently a lot of people didn't like me disagreeing with endie.
Yeah well my corp has the #1 titan pilot on eve kill which means that my corp has the dude who blew the fuck out of more of yall's shit than anyone else so suck my dick.
EDIT: Holy shit we're #6 for corps. Confirmation that being on the eve-kill top 20 means all of nothing. Hth
The kb does show something that can be taken with some sort of reliable statistical analysis. You have undeniably gotten on the most killmails in goonwaffe, that's a fact unless theirs killmails missing blah blah blah. You have to consider people that fly logi and dictors and stuff like that who may not get on kills, but even despite that, you can take your top killer spot and draw the conclusion that you are one of the most active pvp pilots in your corp, at least top tier.
So the kb does offer some reliable measurements, you just have to know how to interpret them.
leblob overplayed his hand two weeks ago
I have probably gotten on like 100 killmails in like 2-3 months, I hope you guys enjoy no Skirmish links and no cyno to bridge you in because according to Eve-kill I'm useless.
EDIT: No because those fuckers who camp Jita 4-4 are high up on the killboards and they suck. The only thing that might give you and idea if someone is good or not is a battle report. Example: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13992510 not impressed. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3206522 now that I'm actually impressed by. Basically the killboard can give you an idea of if someone is good or not if you go and look at each kill's BR but just looking at stats doesn't tell you shit.
AAA it appears never made any serious attempt to defend Delve, Querious/PB. They rationalize it based on the fact it wasn't "their" space. If CFC etc keeps it up, PB could flip in a week. AAA doesn't seem to care.
It does appear from the forum porn that there are some people in AAA who actually want to do something other than scuttle to LGK. They want to fight. Whether the Russian overlords will do that is a big question.
Gimmick accounts aside, AAA seems like one of those groups that blindly goes through the motions simply because they've done the same thing before. No organization, no mobilization, no rousing speeches to stir up the unwashed masses to defend the homeland...just "We're AAA, we've been here before and we'll be back (when you've left)."
That doesn't sound like much fun.
yes I get that you were talking about the members that showed up for any fleet over a 2 week period(even if it was just one), and I was talking about the numbers that an alliance can consistently expect per fleet, two entirely different things. Even if you were only using 4,956 (or whatever it was) people to get 1,000 members in fleet on a regular basis, you were still then comparing those 4,956 people to -A-'s entire member count and asking why they didn't field more, which just doesn't even make sense, since you should be comparing it to the number of people that showed up for at least one soco fleet over a 2 week period.
Or something like that, I'm not gonna go back and reread that thing, if I fucked up making a point or two then I fucked up a point or two, but i'm pretty sure what I said was right in that last line.
What I'm understanding is that 2+2=5
Because of advanced Calculus techniques I have determined this to be the case.
Ok, now I see. See when Endie posted that, in his formula for fleet participation he forgot to multiply both sides by R where R=Relative Eve-Kill stats.
To be fair, you are useless.
d/dx (2) = d/dx (5)
Dude failing organisations make up reasons why they are doing great. Groups that want to fix themselves stop deceiving themselves. I tried to help you, mang. But you have to help yourself. Why won't you help yourself? Why do you hate Nulli? This is just like that time you showed how much you hated Nulli by posting COME AT ME PL BRO WE CAN TAKE YOU YOU ARE WEAK OLD MAN AND YOUR POWERS ARE GONE
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You get some isk from insurance, but it's not a lot compared to the worth of hull+fits. For example, a Hel loss nets you 2.64b from base insurance, so I'd assume it's about 12%.
Couple more thousand words and your points will be made.
PGL made it quite clear that it is unfair to expect soco alliances to bring as many words to a post as CFC alliances. We start off knowing a lot more words and pretending that Soco members should be able to match that sort of unfair wordcount is propaganda and trolling.
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