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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    His last PM to me about how unfair it was that a mod moved his posts and told people to stay on topic in SDF didn't go so well for him.
    Well his argument in the 'public' arena does not seem to be fairing well either. It seems almost as if arguments need to stand on merit rather than on opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Zuckerkorn View Post
    Well his argument in the 'public' arena does not seem to be fairing well either. It seems almost as if arguments need to stand on merit rather than on opinion...
    Sorry that citing specific instances that Vinata even agreed occurred and other people stating had happen to them too isn't enough merit for you... v0v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    Sorry that citing specific instances that Vinata even agreed occurred and other people stating had happen to them too isn't enough merit for you... v0v
    Attempting to make the case that someone should be:
    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    Then maybe they shouldn't be mods...
    Because they are:
    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    It's not about him ruining my rep, it's about him abusing his power.
    By citing one example:
    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    Thank you, this is exactly what I was saying.

    And let me guess, this negrep
    "Thread: Reputation
    guess who"

    also happens to be from him?
    Which when it turned out you were wrong:
    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    That is from grim. vOv
    And even when that was presented to you
    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    Once again, not crying about my rep but about mods being able to see who repped them and using it against others, which happens to be one of the primary reasons Vinata got rid of everyone being able to see who repped them in the first place.

    There's a couple people posting here complaining about the same exact thing I am, and your only response is "lol, stop being so butthurt about your rep."
    You then tired to make it sound as though you were basing your argument on what Murr posted here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    Durr was told not to and it hasn't been reporting doing so ever since, Mari has a hard time abiding to rules as it seems.
    So as you can see by your own posts your argument had no merit. You had to use what Murr posted to try and bolster your claims. And if that was not enough you claim that I don't read posts in the neg rep you left me. But I can understand how not having a good understanding of what Merit means so let me google that for you.

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    Hey Helios. Im sorry I sarcastically negrepped you bro. Please don't kill yourself, I didnt mean it.
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    WTS: 2000 rep. 10b isk, up front.

    Yes, it's that important, it's Eve's biggest growth industry.

    Offering it here first, if I don't get a response I'll start hawking it on the TEST forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketefrau View Post
    WTS: 2000 rep. 10b isk, up front.Yes, it's that important, it's Eve's biggest growth industry. Offering it here first, if I don't get a response I'll start hawking it on the TEST forums.
    I could't buy popularity in high school, but I will here!

    So will 100 million isk make me cool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketefrau View Post
    WTS: 2000 rep. 10b isk, up front.

    Yes, it's that important, it's Eve's biggest growth industry.

    Offering it here first, if I don't get a response I'll start hawking it on the TEST forums.
    I got 17 mil, can I help? I'll donate them to the Buy-Rep-For-Helios-Save-Lives-Foundation.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    I also like to ignore posts that come before the point I'm trying to make that backup what someone else is trying to prove.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    That'd be the single comment left by a mod this year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Internet Spaceships View Post
    ....so that would be a valid complaint then. I don't think it's fair to say "you've only had 3 mod negreps in 1.25 years" when the time frame we're looking at is within the last week, and one of those negreps occurs there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    e: nevermind, I'll just have another talk with mari
    It's cool though, let's just pretend like you're presenting a very unbiased and fair assessment and trumpet it as fact, Barry.

    Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    I also like to ignore posts that come before the point I'm trying to make that backup what someone else is trying to prove.

    It's cool though, let's just pretend like you're presenting a very unbiased and fair assessment and trumpet it as fact, Barry.

    Lol.
    Your reading comprehension sucks. Barry quoted the following by Murr:

    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    Durr was told not to and it hasn't been reporting doing so ever since, Mari has a hard time abiding to rules as it seems.
    That's exactly the same case in regards to Marivauder that Murr and Vinata/Internet Spaceship talk about in their posts.

    And in case you didn't get it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    This entire thing is dumb because rep is literally meaningless so it is absurd to say "They can see who repped them and counter-rep!" is an abuse of power. What power?
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Zuckerkorn View Post
    I could't buy popularity in high school, but I will here!

    So will 100 million isk make me cool?
    100m would probably get you a date, but not with anyone hot. I wouldn't exactly say "cool," but it would probably get you to "tepid."

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    Come on come clean now Helios, how much is riverini paying you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    Come on come clean now Helios, how much is riverini paying you.
    5b. Will you double the offer if I promise to drop all talk of reputation?
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    I think the rep system is beneficial for feedback and can be a laugh, while being mostly irrelevant. Knowing who repped you helps qualify the comments left, so personally I'd let everyone see who it is that repped them. Rep totals give you nothing in the end so why change something over something as petty as revenge neg repping? Anyone doing it is only showing that their opinions are worthless if they have to resort to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I think the rep system is beneficial for feedback and can be a laugh, while being mostly irrelevant. Knowing who repped you helps qualify the comments left, so personally I'd let everyone see who it is that repped them. Rep totals give you nothing in the end so why change something over something as petty as revenge neg repping? Anyone doing it is only showing that their opinions are worthless if they have to resort to it.

    I agree with this, let people see their own rep, but not others.

    I guess Helios' examples were not the best, but it is a concern if mods are using (abusing?) the ability to see who repped them to negrep, if only in principle at least and not in practice; I say this because examples are rare and I don't think anyone with the status is petty enough to actually do it on a regular basis.

    It's not exactly a serious concern, seeing as the rep system is kept and used mostly for amusement; but it is a bit of a dick move to use such an advantage against others seeing as the status (therefore the advantages) were entrusted on the basis of using them to benefit the community. Also it's somewhat ironic to be using it for the purpose everyone else lost their ability to see who repped who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanloch View Post
    I agree with this, let people see their own rep, but not others.

    I guess Helios' examples were not the best, but it is a concern if mods are using (abusing?) the ability to see who repped them to negrep, if only in principle at least and not in practice; I say this because examples are rare and I don't think anyone with the status is petty enough to actually do it on a regular basis.

    It's not exactly a serious concern, seeing as the rep system is kept and used mostly for amusement; but it is a bit of a dick move to use such an advantage against others seeing as the status (therefore the advantages) were entrusted on the basis of using them to benefit the community. Also it's somewhat ironic to be using it for the purpose everyone else lost their ability to see who repped who.
    The whole abuse angle for me doesn't really work, since rep is meaningless, the abuse if you can even call it that, is so minor that it shouldn't matter. However, on the same side of the coin, if rep is so meaningless, why can people not see who gave them rep? Although, yes, it is ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    The whole abuse angle for me doesn't really work, since rep is meaningless, the abuse if you can even call it that, is so minor that it shouldn't matter. However, on the same side of the coin, if rep is so meaningless, why can people not see who gave them rep? Although, yes, it is ironic.
    Because if people could see who repped them, we would miss out on the tears and crying exemplified in this thread. Rep is more fun now.
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    Ideally (IMHO):

    1) Rep is on a per-post basis, there's no accumulation or high score
    b) Rep has nothing to do with "Power."
    4) Rep is non-anonymous, so you can see who agrees/disagrees with you
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    Let people see their +rep but not neg rep
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    Would make more sense the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios Black View Post
    Sorry that citing specific instances that Vinata even agreed occurred and other people stating had happen to them too isn't enough merit for you... v0v
    I Disapprove: SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT REP JESUS - SYNDIC THRASS (THAT IS ME SIGNING MY NEG REP YOU FAGGOT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    I think the rep system is beneficial for feedback and can be a laugh, while being mostly irrelevant. Knowing who repped you helps qualify the comments left, so personally I'd let everyone see who it is that repped them. Rep totals give you nothing in the end so why change something over something as petty as revenge neg repping? Anyone doing it is only showing that their opinions are worthless if they have to resort to it.
    I agree with this because there are people (Penif, Prop, etc) who just negrep me every time they can so it's nice to know which ones are just faggots -repping me because I'm Syndic Thrass and who is -repping me because they disagree with some shit I said. Also there are sometimes good comments in -rep comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murr View Post
    C

    it's the site's mechanism to slow down overactive posters. Promote them to mod/admin
    I was wondering why I kept passing up the opportunity to make a post a few times today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stronke View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    You know Stronke was asking for it, dressing like a dirty sexy whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
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    Not sure what thread is about, posting anyways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    You know Stronke was asking for it, dressing like a dirty sexy whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    I fixed a "bug" where mods couldn't see who left them reputation.

    Also made it so only people with access to Foreplay can see who left them reputation.
    I have this access (well I did yesterday) and don't see who repped me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous View Post
    I have this access (well I did yesterday) and don't see who repped me.
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    and hurry up about it! I have some negreps to repay.

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    Can I/we have a checkbox in the options menu to auto leave a link back to user profile so that plus/neg is autosigned? Typing my username every time is tedious in the extreme.

    Straight up idgaf about mod viewing or whatever the shit helios is p mad about. I just want to notify people that it was I who told them something/negjizzed in their eye.

    Since it's the giver choosing to show, it's their fault if they get negchained. Which is fine with me, as I really can't be bothered to worry about hiscore. I just prefer my long running pseudonymity to anonymity.

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    I can't even get pips to show back up, so don't ask me about options to linkback to user profiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    I can't even get pips to show back up, so don't ask me about options to linkback to user profiles.
    Guess we just have to start signing our posts.


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    I actually have an even 2000. It's such a nice, round number I'm considering never pissing anyone off or never making anyone happy again.

    A goal of perfect blandness....

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    whoops
    (4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod

    (11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test

    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Power was meant to be abused.

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    free rep all around
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    (4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod

    (11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test

    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
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    The Mari giveth and taketh away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    I can't even get pips to show back up, so don't ask me about options to linkback to user profiles.
    Are you guys using a custom Rep module or one of the ones out and about?

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    Most everything on this forum is vanilla as xutech and I don't have the technical skills to do better, and Mulla has this habit of being distracted by super models.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    Mulla has this habit of being distracted by super models.
    Mulla should take a few minutes and reveal his secrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Zuckerkorn View Post
    Mulla should take a few minutes and reveal his secrets
    I think it is going outside and not play video games.
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